Starcraft 2's story is garbage. When did Blizzard hire Disney to write it?

They ditched lots of things from the original storyline in order to dumb it down to a chick-flick love cliche, yet they made Jim Raynor into a totally unlikable "I'M BETTER THAN YOU!" egotistical douchebag who screams at and threatens his well-intending crew members. And unlike the grey morality in the original, everything turned into caricature black and white. The ending was cringe inducing and a total slap in the face for fans of the first game's storyline. Most of the story is just worthless fillers that does not advance anything at all. Each 1 of the 6 campaigns in starcraft+brood war is not only more complete but far better than the whole of starcraft 2. And to think the new evil Blizzard boss thinks he can sell this pure garbage story for 20-30 bucks a piece.

Haven't played SCII yet... but if Blizzard hired Disney to write the story chances are that Kerrigan has her bad girl days numbered. In the end you can bet Raynor will kiss her and the infection will be broken and everybody in the universe will be happy and BFF.

EDIT: lol

Haven't played SCII yet... but if Blizzard hired Disney to write the story chances are that Morrigan has her bad girl days numbered. In the end you can bet Raynor will kiss her and the infection will be broken and everybody in the universe will be happy and BFF.

GreenGoblin2099

Haven't played SCII yet... but if Blizzard hired Disney to write the story chances are that Morrigan has her bad girl days numbered. In the end you can bet Raynor will kiss her and the infection will be broken and everybody in the universe will be happy and BFF.

GreenGoblin2099

You're ranting there, but I can't say I disagree since I really expected this game to have teh story that ends all stories in RTS games. I mean, where are the betrayals, plot twists, and complex plot developments? I think it would've been a much more interesting story if Valerian actually had other plans of his own(no spoilers there promise ;) ). Storytelling in games was already the aspect that developers had to work on most, I didn't expect it would actually get worse, especially not blizzard.

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

Haven't played SCII yet... but if Blizzard hired Disney to write the story chances are that Morrigan has her bad girl days numbered. In the end you can bet Raynor will kiss her and the infection will be broken and everybody in the universe will be happy and BFF.

Ace6301

There is now. :P

You're ranting there, but I can't say I disagree since I really expected this game to have teh story that ends all stories in RTS games. I mean, where are the betrayals, plot twists, and complex plot developments? I think it would've been a much more interesting story if Valerian actually had other plans of his own(no spoilers there promise ;) ). Storytelling in games was already the aspect that developers had to work on most, I didn't expect it would actually get worse, especially not blizzard.

PSdual_wielder

blizzard has always been this way

[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

You're ranting there, but I can't say I disagree since I really expected this game to have teh story that ends all stories in RTS games. I mean, where are the betrayals, plot twists, and complex plot developments? I think it would've been a much more interesting story if Valerian actually had other plans of his own(no spoilers there promise ;) ). Storytelling in games was already the aspect that developers had to work on most, I didn't expect it would actually get worse, especially not blizzard.

Ace6301

well, what i mean are things that you just don't see coming but has somehow been meticulously integrated into the plot for the whole game, those kinds of 'twists'. Not things that any high school-level creative writer can think of as effortless extension of an existing plot.

edit: And as an example of what I'm talking about, the answer conveniently is starcraft 1 and bw.

It was pretty damn good if you ask me, much better than any Halo or Killzone storyline. millerlight89

...Doesn't it make sense to compare it to the story in SC1? Any garbage story is better than Halo or Killzone.

If Disney wrote it, sounds like a great upgrade from your average game story. Willy105

I was about to say, if it was written by Disney wouldn't it have been good (or at least better than most games)?

It was pretty damn good if you ask me, much better than any Halo or Killzone storyline. millerlight89

this pretty much.

the overall story was very standard but the presentation was an A+. Wish there were more cutscenes.

The thing is that there are still two parts of the story to come out. Wings of Liberty was just setting up the main pieces for the other two to resolve. There are a lot of unanswered questions and story lines that weren't resolved in Wings of Liberty that I very much look forward to seeing in the upcoming parts.LordXelNaga

Disney storylines are the best except for hunchback of notre dame.

I really don't mind the direction Blizzard went in with the story, I mean if they want to screw with it it's fine, and there are still 2 chapters to go.

My main problem was the actual writing and dialogue were completely substandard compared to other blizzard games. It made the whole thing feel detached and not believable by the pre-established lore. When Mengsk betrayed Kerrigan in SC1 it came completely out of left field, even though you saw signs of Mengsk becoming too power hungry. You saw the conclave reconcile at the last minute, knowing they were wrong the whole time. You saw infested kerrigan manipulate and deceive characters again and again, because she's just kinda a total B****. All of these feel genuine and believable, and still are exciting developments, because they are well written.

SC2 is so poorly written. They talk in incredibly lame cliched dialogue, to the point where you really don't care about any of the characters.Characters who were interesting and well developed in the first are completely retconned into lame stereotypes. They don't feel genuine at all, and when a plot point happens, it really just feels dumb and unnecessary.

Kerrigan in particular, who was once cold and manipulative, is just lame now. She doesn't try to trick her way into anything, and seems to do nothing but make terrible decisions over and over and say things like "Savor this small victory, but I will win in the end boohahahahaha".

Why exactly did she hide for 4 years? That's not explained, but presumably its because blizzard didn't want her raping the whole galaxy so that they could make a dark and interesting dynamic. Galaxy ravaged by an intelligent, evil alien swarm? Nah whatever, lets just make her pointlessly squander everything going for her in SC1's ending.

Zeratul once seemed like an ageless pool of wisdom, but now all he does is BRING TIDINGS OF DOOOOOM.

I will say that I liked the production values and voice acting. If they could hire a better writer the series would be fine.

[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

You're ranting there, but I can't say I disagree since I really expected this game to have teh story that ends all stories in RTS games. I mean, where are the betrayals, plot twists, and complex plot developments? I think it would've been a much more interesting story if Valerian actually had other plans of his own(no spoilers there promise ;) ). Storytelling in games was already the aspect that developers had to work on most, I didn't expect it would actually get worse, especially not blizzard.

Ace6301

Chris metzen doesnt care anymore thats why

The story in SC2 was horrible, but they made up for it by having fun missions. SC2 story was no where near as good as the first one.

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

You're ranting there, but I can't say I disagree since I really expected this game to have teh story that ends all stories in RTS games. I mean, where are the betrayals, plot twists, and complex plot developments? I think it would've been a much more interesting story if Valerian actually had other plans of his own(no spoilers there promise ;) ). Storytelling in games was already the aspect that developers had to work on most, I didn't expect it would actually get worse, especially not blizzard.

lordlors

I though it was pretty good actually, not WarCraft 3 standar (which, IMO is the best story i've seen in a RTS) but still i like it, now, to be fair, i didn't feel the original SC story THAT good, it is really good sure, and better than SC2 story, but not for a long shot.

I don't even know why starcraft 2 story gets praised. It's really bad. And simplistic. Between each mission, there's just a lobby area where you click stuff to hear one liners. Very dumb.

I had to avoid reading the replies in order to not spoil the story for me. I haven't gotten SC II yet. But if Disney has had a hand in it, seriously... Ugh. I'm sorry. They should just stick to Kingdom Hearts. :P

My guess is that: General_X

It could be, but IMO [spoiler] i think is the opossite, now they have a chance to stop Zeratul's vision by having the Zerg working for them instead against them, however, both Raynor and Kerrigan are wanted criminals and Mengks won't rest until he kills them, so it will be a struggle against Mengks as well against the hybrids [/spoiler]

It was pretty damn good if you ask me, much better than any Halo or Killzone storyline. millerlight89

I thought it was pretty good. It made me completely finish the campaign without really touching the multiplayer.

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]It was pretty damn good if you ask me, much better than any Halo or Killzone storyline. BodyElite

Haven't played SCII yet... but if Blizzard hired Disney to write the story chances are that Kerrigan has her bad girl days numbered. In the end you can bet Raynor will kiss her and the infection will be broken and everybody in the universe will be happy and BFF.

EDIT: lol

GreenGoblin2099

Wow... right on target on the first try.

I don't think its a terrible story, but when put up against games like Uncharted 2, Amnesia, or Red Dead Redemption the story isn't of the highest grade and is rather cliched. Not the worst story, but not too good with the real value coming from its production values, and the games I listed have those as well.

Still, people don't play Starcraft for the Oscar worthy storyline do they? Its not exactly trying to be Heavy Rain here.

I had to avoid reading the replies in order to not spoil the story for me. I haven't gotten SC II yet. But if Disney has had a hand in it, seriously... Ugh. I'm sorry. They should just stick to Kingdom Hearts. :P

Ceraby

I really liked the characters and story honestly. Sure...most of the story was cliche, but it was told well and presented in a suberb fasion. It left me wanting more in the upcoming expansions. I can't wait for them honestly:D

Pretty solid storyline for a video game overall but...... this is a game with a 100 million dollar budget that took 10 years to release. I was hoping to be blown away by the storyline, but was sadly disappointed.kinger256

why are people STILL saying this game had a 100million dollar budget?

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

Haven't played SCII yet... but if Blizzard hired Disney to write the story chances are that Kerrigan has her bad girl days numbered. In the end you can bet Raynor will kiss her and the infection will be broken and everybody in the universe will be happy and BFF.

EDIT: lol

SPYDER0416

Wow... right on target on the first try.

I don't think its a terrible story, but when put up against games like Uncharted 2, Amnesia, or Red Dead Redemption the story isn't of the highest grade and is rather cliched. Not the worst story, but not too good with the real value coming from its production values, and the games I listed have those as well.

Still, people don't play Starcraft for the Oscar worthy storyline do they? Its not exactly trying to be Heavy Rain here.

[QUOTE="kinger256"]Pretty solid storyline for a video game overall but...... this is a game with a 100 million dollar budget that took 10 years to release. I was hoping to be blown away by the storyline, but was sadly disappointed.JangoWuzHere

why are people STILL saying this game had a 100million dollar budget?

They ditched lots of things from the original storyline in order to dumb it down to a chick-flick love cliche, yet they made Jim Raynor into a totally unlikable "I'M BETTER THAN YOU!" egotistical douchebag who screams at and threatens his well-intending crew members. And unlike the grey morality in the original, everything turned into caricature black and white. The ending was cringe inducing and a total slap in the face for fans of the first game's storyline. Most of the story is just worthless fillers that does not advance anything at all. Each 1 of the 6 campaigns in starcraft+brood war is not only more complete but far better than the whole of starcraft 2. And to think the new evil Blizzard boss thinks he can sell this pure garbage story for 20-30 bucks a piece.

runbleduck

It's not fantastic I'll give you that but it's pretty good compared to other high profile games..

And I see you completely misunderstood Jim Raynor so I can't help but wonder wether or not you actually "got" the rest of the story.

I believe Warcraft3+Frozen Throne was the pinnacle of a story, for Blizzard, and basically the best RTS story ever. I don't think they'll top that anytime soon, SCII's story was cool, but nothing to brag about.