Staminas system sucks in games

Except for Dark Souls, that is.

In every single game aside from that series, The system exists to put you through artificial difficulty and having to micromanaging it.

It shouldnt exist.

I despise The person that created this system.

This is what 40 lambert and butler a day will do to you.

They suck less than your last few threads

Damn lol

Recloud is right like always

Yeah I agree for the most part.

The exception being stamina when sniping (i.e. holding your breath, managing your heartrate, etc). Basically Sniper: Elite, for example, though most games have a "hold ____ to steady your aim" mechanic for sniper rifles.

I mostly dislike how in-depth a lot of games take it, turning it into another resource bar...another stat...another thing to add skill points into...another thing to waste perks/talents on. If you want my character to run out of breath after running a certain distance, fine; just don't turn it into this convoluted game mechanic.

It's fine in STALKER: Call of Pripyat. My character can sprint a certain distance when not carrying a lot. But, apply the weight and the sprint distance decreases. Carrying too much weight? The stamina would be gone in a few seconds or my character cannot move altogether. Obviously, there is a carrying weight limit and requires careful management.

There are ways to increase carrying weight such as the use of certain artifacts and enhanced armor.

Managing carrying weight becomes second nature. The menu/inventory screen is in real-time and is designed to quickly jettison items in case I have to lose the weight.

Some armored suits such as the Wing of Freedom allow long sprint times at the cost of thinner armor and more slots for artifacts that enhance stamina.

Shocking, someone thinks that only Dark Souls can do things right.

I generally don’t have a problem with stamina systems myself.

Nioh does it best with ki pulses.

On topic. It sucks in most games even Dark Souls.

Seems to me that the only objection is if it isn't implemented well. I'm sorry, but I don't view managing my physical energy as "artificial" difficulty. I think it's actually one of the smartest, most natural ways of making combat need more than just button mashing.

I'd take stamina bars any day of the week over bullet sponge enemies.

I'd say it's lame in Souls games too.

Would you rather be able to carve through dozens of enemies without breaking a sweat or some lame guy who needs to catch his breath after swinging your sword twice.

It's fine here. I'm loaded for bear and looking for trouble. My two weapons are fully loaded, good supply of ammo, and I still haven't reached the 90 kg limit. Just in case: I have a supply of steroid and energy drinks to temporarily enhance carrying ability and stamina. I also have a goldfish artifact that adds an extra 12 kg if I need it and two blue artifacts to increase endurance. No need for them yet.

The only potential negative is everything is in real-time. I have to keep moving while in the inventory screen lest a mutant sneaks up on me.

Edit:

Call of Pripyat is also considered a survival game. It would make sense to have more limits imposed compared to other games.

Interesting. But since some games would be way too easy without it, I don't agree.

I don’t mind stamina systems. The problem is developers don’t implement them properly.

My character shouldn’t get tired of running after 10 meters.

My character should be able to hang onto a ledge/monster for more than 10 seconds.

My character shouldn’t be starving/peeing and all this other stuff after 5 minutes of video gameplay.

It becomes a massive chore and it’s unrealistic which goes against the very concept of stamina meters which aim for realism LOL

If my character was massively overweight like “Fat Princess” then yes, her stamina bars should deplete quickly.

But most video game heroes are in good shape and it baffles me how exhausted they get over simple tasks.

It seems like most developers are simply incapable of doing them correctly.

Worst ones are the ones where the last upgrade means you get infinite stamina.

I disagree, I actually am of the opinion that it should be present in more games.

You know you play too much mobile trash when stamina system makes you think of having to wait 5 hours for it to recharge.

The health system on STALKER: Lost Alpha is probably my maximum limit on how much health management I want in my games.

There's a thirst bar, hunger bar, and radioactivity exposure bar on the right side, endurance bar, armor protection bar, bleeding bar, and telepathy bar on the left side.

The hunger bar takes a long time to deplete. Thirst depletes sooner than hunger. But, it too takes a long time to deplete. Radioactivity should always be at zero. Otherwise, it'll kill the player. How quickly it depletes is dependent on available cures. Same thing for bleeding. Endurance (aka stamina) depletion depends on the type of suit worn, cargo load weight, and how much sprinting a player does.

There is also sleep which doesn't have a bar of its own. But, lack of sleep can cause blurry vision and staggered walk. Sleeping can regenerate health. But, it also causes hunger and thirst.

Psi-emissions/telepathy? The only viable cure I've seen is putting distance and breaking line of sight between the source and the player's character.

The depletion rates for all health monitors are fair, especially for a survival game. Carrying the required provisions helps keep the character in good health. My character is more liable to be killed by a headshot or shredded by a mutant than die from health concerns.

Oh. The only usable ammo are the ones on the belt (very top). I have to load ammo into the belt when they run low. The belt also holds artifacts that helps my health. So, yeah. The more artifacts I use, the less usable ammo in the belt. I also still need to load the usable ammo into the weapon itself.

Still quite manageable.

Edit:

Oh yeah. Flashlights need new batteries every now and then. When the character eats, it also adds thirst. Gotta have something to wash down the grub. ;)

There's the usual weapon degradation which results in weapon jams and armor degradation.

After some missions, my character would often stagger back on base with the equivalent of the armor being in tatters, weapons jamming more than firing, and everything is in short supply or zilch.

Fun.

It would be incredibly boring if you could just mash away on the attack button. It would turn into Fable; absolute garbage.

@DragonfireXZ95: I was thinking more DMC/Ninja Gaiden

They're fine when done right, they're terrible when done wrong. I'm looking at you, Skyrim. Early on in the game you can be completely frozen by lacking stamina, but at a certain point you forget it's even a thing. There's literally no in-between. If you're going to have a mechanic in the game at least make sure it has some impact on gameplay past the early game.

You only stay on the ground, and the combos are basically 4 hits at most. They'd have to completely revamp the entire combat system, or else it would basically be Fable without a stamina bar, albeit much darker, less cartoony, and still better than that crap series.