Wow.. what a bad year. It's too bad really. I wanted them to do well, I love my PS2, but they got cocky. The only way they'll learn is by getting taken down a peg or two. Maybe after they start to recover they'll realise that they can't lie to their fans and get away with it.
-major firmware update -less of a shortage reaching almost 2 - 6 mill mark -Euro Launch - Amazing games -Better graphics and understand of making games
Juevani
Hahaha it's funny how cows have to look foward to "firmware updates" and console launches....
And you mean like maybe 1 or 2 good games in 2007 for ps3 while Wii PC and 360 get many.
how 1 or 2 games lemming?? MGS4,FF13,KillZone,God Of War,The Getaway,MotorStorm,Tekken,GT,C-and-R,Metro2033,VF5,HeavnlySword,L.A Noir,GTA5,PES,All EA Sports, Lair,WarHawk and many more just in case you didnt know there is 103 games under devlopment for the PS3 for 2007, which makes it twice as much as the games being devloped for the 360 or whatever other console u mentioned.. just wanted to let u know.. .........twice as much as 360? what are you smoking....most of the gaming industry and most of sony's "once" exclusives are all "jumping in". there are more games coming to 360 than ps3 by a long shot.....please dont post things just to sound "cool"....it makes you cows seem......well...not seem...you ARE desperate :) desperate?? hahaha, its just funny, we're not the one jumpin around and wishin 360 games, thats you xbox fans, let me see, how many topics is about I WISH A PS3 game ''From MGS4, FF13, Tekken, GT and the rest of the PS3 games, xbox fans sit here allday wishin on them, so who's desperate?? you don't see like that from PS fans, what we're gonna wish for anyway all xbox games look and play the same fps.. and since u so proud of ur 360, why u never play it?? ya sit here allday commenting PS3 posts, u know why there is not that much ps fans on the net?? cus we're either enjoying our PS3 or playin PS2 waitin 2 get a PS3.. and 103 games is in devlopment for ps3 thats double as much games as the games in dev for 360, read the news kid.. then, why aren't you playing your PS3, or your PS2? oh I know why, because it sucks..........and we aren't desperate, or atleast I'm not, the only games that I weant from the PS3 is MGS4 and maybe FFXIII, but I'm not desperate for getting them, hell no, I never played the past games, so I'm not desperate about your games, I can live without those games anyways
You know you could do a disappointent timeline for 360 and Wii as well. But unlike you people have lives. Dreams-Visions
that's the way! attack someone's life when you don't know them at all! Good form. yea! attack them when you have no way of intellectually expresing your anger! Bonus Points!
You know you could do a disappointent timeline for 360 and Wii as well. But unlike you people have lives. Shadow_op
that's the way! attack someone's life when you don't know them at all! Good form. yea! attack them when you have no way of intellectually expresing your anger! Bonus Points! Superb! attack them like you say you can, but do nothing. BONUS MULTIPLIER!!!
We all know Sony has been taking a lot of bad press from the PS3, but lets take a look back at the year that has lead us to the Nov. 17th release date.
First, we start with Sony itself. Yes, I was going to only make a timeline of the PS3 news, but how can you ignore this arrogance from late 2005?
Nov. 10th, 2005 - Sony is caught hiding a rootkit inside music CD's that place a virus on users computer. Sony's Tom Hesse defends the decision by stating that people don't know what it is, so they shouldn't care
Now that we know Sony cares about us, lets move on to the PS3...
Feb 27th, 2006 - Sony misses it's Spring launch date May 8th, 2006 - Sony holds it's E3 conference announcing the pricing of the PS3 at $600/$500 May 8th, 2006 - New PS3 controller will have six degrees of motion, but no rumble feature. Sony's Phil Harrison states that rumble was last gen and no longer needed. May 31st, 2006 - Sony's Phil Harrison denies copying the Wiimote and states that the PS3 will replace the PC Sep 5th, 2006 - Gamers looking to get the best picture out of Sony's premium PlayStation 3 package will need to shell out extra for proper hookups. Sept 6th, 2006 - PS3 is delayed in Europe until March 2007 Sept 6th, 2006 - PS3 launch shipment is cut from 2 million to 400,000 in the US (100,000 to Japan) Sept 8th, 2006 - Sony's President admits that the company's hardware is in a current state of decline Sept 26th, 2006 - PS3 first-party titles announced to be the same price as third party titles, at $59.99 Sept 26th, 2006 - Square Enix will not exclusively support Sony's PS3 as much as they did with the PS2. Sept 29th, 2006 - Sony's President Ken Kutaragi states that his company does not care about the Xbox 360 and Wii competition. October 12th, 2006 - Sony Exec calls the 360 and Wii "too expensive" October 19th, 2006 - The infamous spec sheet comparison and how Sony claims the Xbox 360 requires HD-DVD to play games October 20th, 2006 - Announced that Sony may have to replace your PS3 controller for you after it no longer holds charge October 24th, 2006 - Sony sinks Lik-Sang October 26th, 2006 - Sony's Q2 profits decrease by 94% October 28th, 2006 - Sony president Ken Kutaragi said he expects the PS3 to be capable of running games at a stunning 120fps October 30th, 2006 - PS3 will push Sony $1.71 billion into the red October 31st, 2006 - Japan launch of the PS3 is cut to 80,000 units Nov 8th, 2006 - Sony ships without update. You must update your PS3 out of the box in order to use PlayStation Network Nov 9th, 2006 - NBA Live 2007 is cancelled on the PS3 Nov 9th, 2006 - Oblivion is pushed back from launch title to Jan 2007 Nov 10th, 2006 - Sony's Phil Harrison states that he can no longer confirm a March 2007 launch for Europe Nov 11th, 2006 - PS3 launches in Japan and rewards few Nov 11th, 2006 - Sony unprepared for Japan launch Nov 14th, 2006 - Sony will miss 400,000 unit target for the US. Approx 150k to 200k will be shipped for launch Nov 14th, 2006 - PS3 has backwards compatibility problems Nov 16th, 2006 - PS3 downscales 720p games instead of upscaling to 1080i Nov 16th, 2006 - Sony's Jack Tretton comments on the PS3 BC problems and states that the Wii has 0 backwards compatibility Nov 20, 2006 - NYT not impressed with PS3 Nov 20, 2006 - Game Devs Prefer 360 Nov 20, 2006 - PS3 annoys Joystiq Nov 21, 2006 - PS3, PSP Rainbow Six held till '07 Nov 23, 2006 - Saving Sony, one console at a time Nov 25, 2006 - Sony retracts 1080i fix statement, leaving customers in lurch. Nov 26, 2006 - More PS3 exclusives head to 360 Nov 26, 2006 - Bloomberg: Sony missed PS3 ship targets Nov 30, 2006 - Sony shuffles senior execs Nov 30, 2006 - Analyst: "I cannot imagine a PlayStation 4" Dec 4, 2006 - Sony Australia: Wii "More Fun" than PS3 Dec 8, 2006 - Court rules for Immersion; Sony to pay up Dec 11, 2006 - Industry watchers weigh in on "record-low tie ratios" for Wii and PS3 and other results from the month of the new systems' debut. Dec 19, 2006 - Time says PS3 was a bust Dec 20, 2006 - PC World Calls PS3 a top tech mistake of 2006 Dec 20, 2006 - Forced bundles and high retail price put consumers off, claims tracking firm. Dec 21, 2006 - Virtua Fighter 5 dukes it out on Xbox 360 Dec 21, 2006 - Sony files patent for wiimote style hand-held controler Dec 27, 2006 - PS3 Greymarket Watch: Scalpers Returning PS3s Back To Stores. Dec 27, 2006 - Gamers who queued for days to buy Sony's PS3 are frantically trying to trade them for the much cheaper Wii. Dec 28, 2006 - Sony's PS3: High-Scorer No More Jan 4, 2007 - Sony spokesman David Karraker: "Everything that we put on store shelves sold out," Jan 4, 2007 - A Gran Turismo game without force feedback? Say it ain't so! Jan 8, 2007 - PS3 demand slows, stores stocked aplenty Jan 9, 2007 - Sony Misses Worldwide PS3 Shipment Targets. They shiped a million in the US, but not in Japan. Jan 10, 2007 - Motorstorm isn't going to be running in 1080p at 60FPS, despite Sony VP of Marketing David Dille saying this week that it would. Jan 10, 2007 - Senior VP of Marketing Peter Dille: Every Sunday in the paper, there's a new deal with a free controller or a free game or $100 off all discounting the 360. I don't think you take those measures if you're selling as expected. (see Jan 13, 2007 entry) Jan 11, 2007 - Analyst: Lagging PS3 Sales 'Troubling' Jan 11, 2007 - ArsTechnica slams "misleading" Sony Jan 13, 2007 - EB offers a deal, trade in your PS2, cables, a second controller and a memory card, to get $100 off a PS3, in what people assume is an attempt to actually move PS3 units.
While it's not all of Sony's fault, they have done little to apologize for their delays and arrogant statements. It's a bad trend that they've started, and the more they continue the more we'll be seeing article after article on Gamespot.....day after day about something else they've done to flaw the PS3's image.
I'm sure I'm going to get a lot of flaming cow responses, but hey that's expected. I can understand their crankiness b/c I know I'd hate to be in their shoes atm. Hopefully Sony will have some sort of eye-opener to the amount of distaste they've started among gaming consumers, and will get back to what they used to do best. Natural_Mystic
I guess this dude found his life's calling. But I would like to see how long this list will last when MGS4 and FFVII comes out.
I guess this dude found his life's calling. But I would like to see how long this list will last when MGS4 and FFVII comes out. Has the FFVII remake been confirmed? you know I'm just asking cause if there was, its not like I would run out and buy a Ps3 for it
I don't know how old the original interview is, but this has been linked a few times in the past couple of days:
Jan 15, 2007: Valve Software's chief Gabe Newell says PS3 a "total disaster on so many levels"
Natural_Mystic, have you been adding stuff that other people link in this thread?
*cough*
[QUOTE="buuzer0"]Topic Creator, add this:
Jan 9, 2007: PS3 demand cools as retailers see returns, slow salesbuuzer0
I don't know how actively the TC will update this thread, but here is some stuff that he might have missed that needs to be integrated here. Comes from the original timeline.
Nov. 20, 2006 - PS3 vs. Xbox360: A Developer's Perspective Nov. 20, 2006 - Joystiq's Ongoing List of PS3 Annoyances Nov. 21, 2006 - Gamestop reveals PS3 has very low attach rate Nov. 25, 2006 - Nov. 25 - Sony retracts 1080i fix statement Dec. 6, 2006 - Interesting article on future of HD-DVD and Blu Ray Dec. 7, 2006 - Gamespot's 360 vs. PS3 Comparison... they choose 360 at this point Dec. 20, 2006 - Article - Fervor for the PS3 is dying down Dec. 20, 2006 - Time Magazine says PS3 is a bust... Dec. 20, 2006 - PC World Calls PS3 a top tech mistake of 2006 Jan. 2, 2007: PS3's in stock...but no one wants them Taken from the forum post here.
buuzer0
Jan. 4, 2007 - Sony Exec Confirms: No Force Feedback on the PS3 Driving Wheel
If it weren't Sony I would be starting to feel bad for the company.BlueBarad
Many of these links are duplicates. Some are the the same links with different titles or the same news story posted by another website.
Jan 15, 2007 - Analyst: Sony missing sales goals by 25%? Jan 15, 2007 - Valve Software's chief Gabe Newell says PS3 a "total disaster on so many levels"
I guess this dude found his life's calling. But I would like to see how long this list will last when MGS4 and FFVII comes out. Has the FFVII remake been confirmed? you know I'm just asking cause if there was, its not like I would run out and buy a Ps3 for it I meant FFXIII
We all know Sony has been taking a lot of bad press from the PS3, but lets take a look back at the year that has lead us to the Nov. 17th release date.
First, we start with Sony itself. Yes, I was going to only make a timeline of the PS3 news, but how can you ignore this arrogance from late 2005?
Nov. 10th, 2005 - Sony is caught hiding a rootkit inside music CD's that place a virus on users computer. Sony's Tom Hesse defends the decision by stating that people don't know what it is, so they shouldn't care
Now that we know Sony cares about us, lets move on to the PS3...
Feb 27th, 2006 - Sony misses it's Spring launch date May 8th, 2006 - Sony holds it's E3 conference announcing the pricing of the PS3 at $600/$500 May 8th, 2006 - New PS3 controller will have six degrees of motion, but no rumble feature. Sony's Phil Harrison states that rumble was last gen and no longer needed. May 31st, 2006 - Sony's Phil Harrison denies copying the Wiimote and states that the PS3 will replace the PC Sep 5th, 2006 - Gamers looking to get the best picture out of Sony's premium PlayStation 3 package will need to shell out extra for proper hookups. Sept 6th, 2006 - PS3 is delayed in Europe until March 2007 Sept 6th, 2006 - PS3 launch shipment is cut from 2 million to 400,000 in the US (100,000 to Japan) Sept 8th, 2006 - Sony's President admits that the company's hardware is in a current state of decline Sept 26th, 2006 - PS3 first-party titles announced to be the same price as third party titles, at $59.99 Sept 26th, 2006 - Square Enix will not exclusively support Sony's PS3 as much as they did with the PS2. Sept 29th, 2006 - Sony's President Ken Kutaragi states that his company does not care about the Xbox 360 and Wii competition. October 12th, 2006 - Sony Exec calls the 360 and Wii "too expensive" October 19th, 2006 - The infamous spec sheet comparison and how Sony claims the Xbox 360 requires HD-DVD to play games October 20th, 2006 - Announced that Sony may have to replace your PS3 controller for you after it no longer holds charge October 24th, 2006 - Sony sinks Lik-Sang October 26th, 2006 - Sony's Q2 profits decrease by 94% October 28th, 2006 - Sony president Ken Kutaragi said he expects the PS3 to be capable of running games at a stunning 120fps October 30th, 2006 - PS3 will push Sony $1.71 billion into the red October 31st, 2006 - Japan launch of the PS3 is cut to 80,000 units Nov 8th, 2006 - Sony ships without update. You must update your PS3 out of the box in order to use PlayStation Network Nov 9th, 2006 - NBA Live 2007 is cancelled on the PS3 Nov 9th, 2006 - Oblivion is pushed back from launch title to Jan 2007 Nov 10th, 2006 - Sony's Phil Harrison states that he can no longer confirm a March 2007 launch for Europe Nov 11th, 2006 - PS3 launches in Japan and rewards few Nov 11th, 2006 - Sony unprepared for Japan launch Nov 14th, 2006 - Sony will miss 400,000 unit target for the US. Approx 150k to 200k will be shipped for launch Nov 14th, 2006 - PS3 has backwards compatibility problems Nov 16th, 2006 - PS3 downscales 720p games instead of upscaling to 1080i Nov 16th, 2006 - Sony's Jack Tretton comments on the PS3 BC problems and states that the Wii has 0 backwards compatibility Nov 20, 2006 - NYT not impressed with PS3 Nov 20, 2006 - Game Devs Prefer 360 Nov 20, 2006 - PS3 annoys Joystiq Nov 21, 2006 - PS3, PSP Rainbow Six held till '07 Nov 23, 2006 - Saving Sony, one console at a time Nov 25, 2006 - Sony retracts 1080i fix statement, leaving customers in lurch. Nov 26, 2006 - More PS3 exclusives head to 360 Nov 26, 2006 - Bloomberg: Sony missed PS3 ship targets Nov 30, 2006 - Sony shuffles senior execs Nov 30, 2006 - Analyst: "I cannot imagine a PlayStation 4" Dec 4, 2006 - Sony Australia: Wii "More Fun" than PS3 Dec 8, 2006 - Court rules for Immersion; Sony to pay up Dec 11, 2006 - Industry watchers weigh in on "record-low tie ratios" for Wii and PS3 and other results from the month of the new systems' debut. Dec 19, 2006 - Time says PS3 was a bust Dec 20, 2006 - PC World Calls PS3 a top tech mistake of 2006 Dec 20, 2006 - Forced bundles and high retail price put consumers off, claims tracking firm. Dec 21, 2006 - Virtua Fighter 5 dukes it out on Xbox 360 Dec 21, 2006 - Sony files patent for wiimote style hand-held controler Dec 27, 2006 - PS3 Greymarket Watch: Scalpers Returning PS3s Back To Stores. Dec 27, 2006 - Gamers who queued for days to buy Sony's PS3 are frantically trying to trade them for the much cheaper Wii. Dec 28, 2006 - Sony's PS3: High-Scorer No More Jan 4, 2007 - Sony spokesman David Karraker: "Everything that we put on store shelves sold out," Jan 4, 2007 - A Gran Turismo game without force feedback? Say it ain't so! Jan 8, 2007 - PS3 demand slows, stores stocked aplenty Jan 9, 2007 - Sony Misses Worldwide PS3 Shipment Targets. They shiped a million in the US, but not in Japan. Jan 10, 2007 - Motorstorm isn't going to be running in 1080p at 60FPS, despite Sony VP of Marketing David Dille saying this week that it would. Jan 10, 2007 - Senior VP of Marketing Peter Dille: Every Sunday in the paper, there's a new deal with a free controller or a free game or $100 off all discounting the 360. I don't think you take those measures if you're selling as expected. (see Jan 13, 2007 entry) Jan 11, 2007 - Analyst: Lagging PS3 Sales 'Troubling' Jan 11, 2007 - ArsTechnica slams "misleading" Sony Jan 13, 2007 - EB offers a deal, trade in your PS2, cables, a second controller and a memory card, to get $100 off a PS3, in what people assume is an attempt to actually move PS3 units.
While it's not all of Sony's fault, they have done little to apologize for their delays and arrogant statements. It's a bad trend that they've started, and the more they continue the more we'll be seeing article after article on Gamespot.....day after day about something else they've done to flaw the PS3's image.
I'm sure I'm going to get a lot of flaming cow responses, but hey that's expected. I can understand their crankiness b/c I know I'd hate to be in their shoes atm. Hopefully Sony will have some sort of eye-opener to the amount of distaste they've started among gaming consumers, and will get back to what they used to do best. Natural_Mystic
This is... This is [color=red]OWNTACULAR[/color] , that's what this is. This is tying up Cows and shoving them in a cramped closet then throwing in a grenade made entirely of [color=blue]Shame[/color] and [color=blue] Regret [/color] . I have never before seen a person, a group, an organization, a company... anything, never have I seen something owned so hard and so thoroughly, and by God I have tried to issue such masterful ownage myself. To FairFaxian (forgive me had I misspelled your name) hope of the PS3 gaining strength is no more than wishful thinking. If a flood of people wanted that system, a flood of people would Have it, and that fierce torrent would wash PS3's away from every store as far as the eye could see, much like with the Wii now. Yet wherever you go PS3's you shall find, box after dusty box, of a system few want whether they have the money for it or not. No, I see no miraculous surge of power for this system, no massive second wave of fans charging to the rescue from just over the next ridge. Now, do not mistake what I'm saying, I am not claiming the PS3 to be dead by any means. However, it Will not have a strong hold in this next generation, and the top is a goal well outside of its reach. The real battle is going on between the Wii and the 360, and though I personally wish for the 380 to be the winner, I won't pretend that the Wii does not look like it has a strong chance, not the way I see Cows throwing themselves into sacrificial pits of denial for their console of choice. I any case, I have but one question: "How do I link to this fantastic thread in my sig?"
there's a real link suggesting that Warhawk may have been cancelled. one of SONY's E3 2005 darlings. expect Lair to be downgraded to 720p. expect a delay in KillZone 2 as well. it almost seems like things would be a suprise if they DO make launch as SONY suggests.
That is a nice long list. I would add that Blu-Ray will not have porn as another downside for Sony. Well, from a business standpoint. Not really a downside morally. Source= http://www.gizmocafe.com/blogs/gizmo_cafe_blog/archive/2007/01/15/104226.aspx
This is a great post. Keep up the good work. However, over time, the links will likely die. Perhaps we need to record the web pages somehow. Maybe take screen shots.
That is a nice long list. I would add that Blu-Ray will not have porn as another downside for Sony. Well, from a business standpoint. Not really a downside morally. Source= http://www.gizmocafe.com/blogs/gizmo_cafe_blog/archive/2007/01/15/104226.aspxDace67
LOL! That's how VHS owned Betamax:P
It's surprising what folks will do for porn
By the way, that's an impressive list of blunders!
One way or another, this thread will live on in infamy. If the PS3 gets pwnzored this gen, then ppl can come here to learn why. But if it again takes the top spot, people can come here and wonder just how many times one company can shoot themselves in the foot and still have a successful product. Truly amazing. Oh, and btw, incredible job at researching all this. TC FTW!!
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