@ghosts4ever: Please explain what a "movie game" is?
Third person cinematic games? like last of us, uncharted, spiderman, God of war etc.
@ghosts4ever: Please explain what a "movie game" is?
Third person cinematic games? like last of us, uncharted, spiderman, God of war etc.
PS5 - weakest hardware plus movie games.
xbox clearly wins and microsoft have better ips too.
beside PC is real gaming so who cares about shitty console wars.
1 - Looking down on consoles, yet owning a PC that is performance-wise inferior to a PS4 Pro.
2 - Dissing VR headsets, just because he can't afford a PC that could handle VR, let alone afford a VR headset itself.
3 - Has a crystall ball, because he apparently knows every single 1st party released for whole PS5's lifecycle
4 - Xbox wins and has apparently better IP's just because he can (maybe) play them on PC (+ according to your "taste", that's whole 1 - HALO, amirite?)
@ghosts4ever: Based on your analytical breakdown, it sounds like the PS5 wins.
PS5 - weakest hardware plus movie games.
xbox clearly wins and microsoft have better ips too.
beside PC is real gaming so who cares about shitty console wars.
In SW for sure ^^
In the real world Money speaks louder...
PS5 - weakest hardware plus movie games.
xbox clearly wins and microsoft have better ips too.
beside PC is real gaming so who cares about shitty console wars.
1 - Looking down on consoles, yet owning a PC that is performance-wise inferior to a PS4 Pro.
2 - Dissing VR headsets, just because he can't afford a PC that could handle VR, let alone afford a VR headset itself.
3 - Has a crystall ball, because he apparently knows every single 1st party released for whole PS5's lifecycle
4 - Xbox wins and has apparently better IP's just because he can (maybe) play them on PC (+ according to your "taste", that's whole 1 - HALO, amirite?)
1. Yet my PC still can play any latest game on high and i can upgrade anytime i want or have money. it doesnot matter. i rather play low budget PC than consoles. all games perform better on PC with KB/M.
2. even if VR will be free of cost. i will avoid it. its a gimmick for rich spoilt kids and people who barely even play games so they wear to look themselve cool. you can see VR set in different amusing parks and playlands.
3. of course, PS5 will get most of third person crap.
4. Even Halo is pure game compare to most sony games that interrupt for cutscene over cutscene.
@ghosts4ever: Based on your analytical breakdown, it sounds like the PS5 wins.
PS5 - weakest hardware plus movie games.
xbox clearly wins and microsoft have better ips too.
beside PC is real gaming so who cares about shitty console wars.
In SW for sure ^^
In the real world Money speaks louder...
I own above budgeted PC. still can play any games on high almost.
consoles especially next gen one are more expensive and overpriced.
Sony will still sell more systems as ms isn't as strong in other territories the thing about the reveal for me is they needed someone to break down Cerny's information in a way that connects in a interesting way.
@nepu7supastar7: Backwards compatibility matters now. It didnt mean as much on older consoles as the games didn't age particularly well. But it's very important on the PS5 especially since many major devs have come out and admitted that they will not be doing any next gen exclusives for two years.
@ghosts4ever: Based on your analytical breakdown, it sounds like the PS5 wins.
PS5 - weakest hardware plus movie games.
xbox clearly wins and microsoft have better ips too.
beside PC is real gaming so who cares about shitty console wars.
In SW for sure ^^
In the real world Money speaks louder...
I own above budgeted PC. still can play any games on high almost.
consoles especially next gen one are more expensive and overpriced.
That's definitely not true...
You probably will have the next gen consoles - near RTX 2080 class - with the price of a single gpu on the pc side.
So who is overpriced and expensive???
But that was not my point. The fact is that 9% of all gaming population ( aka consoles ) generates 30% of the wealth of this industry!!!
So consoles are the healthiest users base, and i'm sure the industry as a whole, does care about it!!!
That said, i have also a ryzen based rigs (2700 and 3600X) with 1070 gpu but won't downplay the consoles role in this industry for that.
Ps : add to the mix 2 i7 laptops with a 950 and 1070 gpus respectively.
@ghosts4ever: lol MS doesn't have better IP's. Not even close.
Halo alone is better than all sony exclusives and im not even Halo fans.
also Age of empires.
@ghosts4ever:
Gears of war is so much cooler than halo.
Spider-Man, god of war, ratchet and clank are some of Sony’s games better than halo.
Forza is unmatched in terms of racing goodness so that and gears are the best Microsoft has.
I would put Killer Instinct on Halos tier.
Halo just isn’t what it once was too.
@subspecies:
Why because he is a white male? Talk about racism/lookism
Maybe if he had a little bit of native, Jewish, black, etc ancestry like all these Hollywood stars you would adore him.
Phil can’t help the choices his mother made in a partner so take your racist agenda elsewhere please.
So sick of people crying wolf on what is creepy. It’s always the ones least suspected who do actual creepy stuff anyways
@subspecies:
Why because he is a white male? Talk about racism/lookism
Maybe if he had a little bit of native, Jewish, black, etc ancestry like all these Hollywood stars you would adore him.
Phil can’t help the choices his mother made in a partner so take your racist agenda elsewhere please.
So sick of people crying wolf on what is creepy. It’s always the ones least suspected who do actual creepy stuff anyways
Dude's smile makes my skin crawl.
@subspecies:
Why because he is a white male? Talk about racism/lookism
Maybe if he had a little bit of native, Jewish, black, etc ancestry like all these Hollywood stars you would adore him.
Phil can’t help the choices his mother made in a partner so take your racist agenda elsewhere please.
So sick of people crying wolf on what is creepy. It’s always the ones least suspected who do actual creepy stuff anyways
!?!?!? O_O
Whoa, why are you so triggered / where this came from? Something "subspecies" said in another thread?
@WESTBLADE:
The media always portrays creepy people as being white. Watch the show criminal minds. The vast majority are white males despite not being supported by criminal data
I will not stand idly whilst a great man is digitally lynched. Not after all he has done for gamers everywhere
@ghosts4ever:
Gears of war is so much cooler than halo.
Gears is worst microsoft ip. just rinse and repeat cover based third person shooters. this game also ruined TPS games by introducing cover mechanics. waste of time.
@ghosts4ever: Errr no. Halo hasn't been relevant since Halo 3.
I can name about 5 Sony Ip' that are ahead of Halo.
true. but these relevant franchise also tend to be mediocre as well.
beside Halo infinite will be best Halo game due to its PC first.
@r-gamer:
"many major devs have come out and admitted that they will not be doing any next gen exclusives for two years."
- This is why I rarely buy new gen consoles on launch. Frankly, I can wait 2 years if it means that the next gen will finally have worthy games. I don't see why everyone else is in such a rush to get the next gen when most developers aren't even ready.
1 - Looking down on consoles, yet owning a PC that is performance-wise inferior to a PS4 Pro.
2 - Dissing VR headsets, just because he can't afford a PC that could handle VR, let alone afford a VR headset itself.
3 - Has a crystall ball, because he apparently knows every single 1st party released for whole PS5's lifecycle
4 - Xbox wins and has apparently better IP's just because he can (maybe) play them on PC (+ according to your "taste", that's whole 1 - HALO, amirite?)
1. Yet my PC still can play any latest game on high and i can upgrade anytime i want or have money. it doesnot matter. i rather play low budget PC than consoles. all games perform better on PC with KB/M.
2. even if VR will be free of cost. i will avoid it. its a gimmick for rich spoilt kids and people who barely even play games so they wear to look themselve cool. you can see VR set in different amusing parks and playlands.
3. of course, PS5 will get most of third person crap.
4. Even Halo is pure game compare to most sony games that interrupt for cutscene over cutscene.
1. Latest games on high? Haha, maybe when YOU are high. No, you can't with your GPU being an equivalent of that one i had 6 years ago. Prove me wrong with a benchmark from Shadow of the Tomb Raider, ok?
KB+M? Ummm... 1st person shooters =/= ALL games, maybe you are just not aware of that...
BTW, buing a new CPU+MB+RAM+GPU+NVME SSD is not called upgarde, it's almost a new build if your old PSU, CPU cooler can handle it.
2. I don't have a VR headset myself (yet), but i wouldn't mind one.
3. Everything that is not 1st person is crap, sure... But... isn't that exactly what VR headset is made for? You know, full 1st person immersion...
4. I'm pretty sure you misspeled *poor
I wanted a psvr but was put off as I only own a base ps4 and can imagine it doesn't run as smooth. The next version on ps5 will definitely be a much better experience. Getting it down to a reasonable price will be the problem getting it to the masses.
1 - Looking down on consoles, yet owning a PC that is performance-wise inferior to a PS4 Pro.
2 - Dissing VR headsets, just because he can't afford a PC that could handle VR, let alone afford a VR headset itself.
3 - Has a crystall ball, because he apparently knows every single 1st party released for whole PS5's lifecycle
4 - Xbox wins and has apparently better IP's just because he can (maybe) play them on PC (+ according to your "taste", that's whole 1 - HALO, amirite?)
1. Yet my PC still can play any latest game on high and i can upgrade anytime i want or have money. it doesnot matter. i rather play low budget PC than consoles. all games perform better on PC with KB/M.
2. even if VR will be free of cost. i will avoid it. its a gimmick for rich spoilt kids and people who barely even play games so they wear to look themselve cool. you can see VR set in different amusing parks and playlands.
3. of course, PS5 will get most of third person crap.
4. Even Halo is pure game compare to most sony games that interrupt for cutscene over cutscene.
1. Latest games on high? Haha, maybe when YOU are high. No, you can't with your GPU being an equivalent of that one i had 6 years ago. Prove me wrong with a benchmark from Shadow of the Tomb Raider, ok?
KB+M? Ummm... 1st person shooters =/= ALL games, maybe you are just not aware of that...
BTW, buing a new CPU+MB+RAM+GPU+NVME SSD is not called upgarde, it's almost a new build if your old PSU, CPU cooler can handle it.
2. I don't have a VR headset myself (yet), but i wouldn't mind one.
3. Everything that is not 1st person is crap, sure... But... isn't that exactly what VR headset is made for? You know, full 1st person immersion...
4. I'm pretty sure you misspeled *poor
I upgraded my GPU some months ago. will upgrade it later this year again. and my system is fine. i have 16GB ram actually. run everything butter smooth. no need to have super computer.
theres third person games that are amazing. like Mafia and Max payne. but they dont make games like these anymore.
Max payne 3 was last great third person game and its been long time. although i enjoyed jedi fallen order but it was just ok.
nvme was a waste of money fo rme. i have a 240gb and theres no huge speed improvent compared to the ssd. if you must get one go for 1tb
@i_p_daily: Where do I begin?!
He put the focus back on gaming (and not Xbox as a multimedia unit), got rid of Kinect, introduced consumer-friendly services like backwards compatibility (with even OG Xbox ffs) and Gamepass, put the emphasis back on Xbox being the most powerful console (XB1X and now XsX), and of course buying all the new studios and creating a new one.
Just a few, but there's probably more. There's no way Xbox would be in this much stronger position if it wasn't for Phil.
1. Latest games on high? Haha, maybe when YOU are high. No, you can't with your GPU being an equivalent of that one i had 6 years ago. Prove me wrong with a benchmark from Shadow of the Tomb Raider, ok?
KB+M? Ummm... 1st person shooters =/= ALL games, maybe you are just not aware of that...
BTW, buing a new CPU+MB+RAM+GPU+NVME SSD is not called upgarde, it's almost a new build if your old PSU, CPU cooler can handle it.
2. I don't have a VR headset myself (yet), but i wouldn't mind one.
3. Everything that is not 1st person is crap, sure... But... isn't that exactly what VR headset is made for? You know, full 1st person immersion...
4. I'm pretty sure you misspeled *poor
I upgraded my GPU some months ago. will upgrade it later this year again. and my system is fine. i have 16GB ram actually. run everything butter smooth. no need to have super computer.
theres third person games that are amazing. like Mafia and Max payne. but they dont make games like these anymore.
Max payne 3 was last great third person game and its been long time. although i enjoyed jedi fallen order but it was just ok.
Your is CPU i5-4590K (a bottleneck in itself) can't handle more than a GTX 1070 and even then it's crippling. Yuu're stuck. You also said that you upgraded to GTX 1070, yet few moths after that, you mentioned something about you still "rocking" RX570???
Also great job ingnoring basically 90% of my direct reply to your BS...
I'm still waiting for that Shadow of the Tomb Raider benchmark that can prove me wrong.
Or is there some kind of issue?
@subspecies:
Why because he is a white male? Talk about racism/lookism
Maybe if he had a little bit of native, Jewish, black, etc ancestry like all these Hollywood stars you would adore him.
Phil can’t help the choices his mother made in a partner so take your racist agenda elsewhere please.
So sick of people crying wolf on what is creepy. It’s always the ones least suspected who do actual creepy stuff anyways
I'm not even White, but you went too far. WTF does Color have to do with this discussion?
@r-gamer: The power difference is not 18%. It’s all variable. The power difference is 18% at its best and over 30% at its worst.
You will see better settings and better frames on XSX. Developers will also embrace the XSX because it’s easier to develop on.
But hey, you might load GTA 6 in 8 seconds and I might have to wait 12 seconds. So you have that going for you.
@WESTBLADE: why are you interested what rig i canu se? Im upgrading my cpu too. Switching to complete amd ryzen.
Beside its rx580. A monster budget card.
Here’s a perfect example of a movie game from Sony for those confused.
https://youtu.be/xnlDwEZkidI
@BlackShirt20: It's 18%.. the 30% you pulled was out of your ass. Considering the Xbox will have 0 nextgen exclusives for two years means all games will ge designed with shitty jaguar cores in mind meaning the CPU won't be stressed for at least the next two years. So the downclocking scenario hes talking about wont happen for awhile and even then it would only be a small %.
By then the PS5 pro will be on the way and MS will decide if they want to release another high end console. Even DF is saying the actual gap may be smaller.
@subspecies:
Why because he is a white male? Talk about racism/lookism
Maybe if he had a little bit of native, Jewish, black, etc ancestry like all these Hollywood stars you would adore him.
Phil can’t help the choices his mother made in a partner so take your racist agenda elsewhere please.
So sick of people crying wolf on what is creepy. It’s always the ones least suspected who do actual creepy stuff anyways
How the actual **** did you draw such a irrational conclusion by what he said? Therapy, now.
@subspecies:
Why because he is a white male? Talk about racism/lookism
Maybe if he had a little bit of native, Jewish, black, etc ancestry like all these Hollywood stars you would adore him.
Phil can’t help the choices his mother made in a partner so take your racist agenda elsewhere please.
So sick of people crying wolf on what is creepy. It’s always the ones least suspected who do actual creepy stuff anyways
How the actual **** did you draw such a irrational conclusion by what he said? Therapy, now.
Seriously. WHAT DUDE
@r-gamer: That’s literally one of the most moronic statements I have seen. The PS5 is a 9.2TF machine overclocked to 10.3TF. It’s GPU performance is variable. As stated many times for Cerny.
Variable: not consistent or having a fixed pattern; liable to change.
So again, 20% is at the PS5’s greatest performance. At its worst the difference will be 30%. Deal with it.
As for your ridiculous claim about games on XSX being designed for a jag processor. Please shut up. No developer designs a game around old hardware and scales it up. You design a game around the best hardware and scale down. Which is why devkits are more powerful than the commercial product.
The Xbox Series X will have plenty of exclusive games. In fact, Xbox Series X will have more titles on launch than the PS5. And a lot of those titles will be completely redesigned for the XSX such as Gear of War 5 at no extra charge.
@WESTBLADE: why are you interested what rig i canu se?* Im upgrading my cpu too. Switching to complete amd ryzen.
Beside its rx580. A monster budget card.**
*Why? Because we we had a little chat a few months ago, and you ACTUALLY SAID THAT UPGRADED to a GTX 1070. Sadly for you i've got a good memory, especially for those acting all elitist, while being the exact opposite...
**Your "monster GPU" is actually lowest lowend:
https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX-580-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1650S-Super/3923vs4058
Such a clown...
@BlackShirt20: Sorry but facts don't care about your feelings. I suggest doing a little more research before sounding like an idiot. Matter a fact the PS5 may actually outperform the XSX.
http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2020/03/ps5_superior_to_xbox_series_x_in_a_lot_of_ways_but_devs_seem_disappointed_by_sonys_communication?fbclid=IwAR23S3NtJ5k_tItsYVCKnyUqRSqy-xAClRcHhxdRxfvBWDzngEhnrbnMyy8
In best case scenarios it can beat the XSX
Ruh Roh!
And about porting down..
https://www.thesixthaxis.com/2020/01/10/xbox-series-x-no-exclusive-microsoft-games-publisher-2021/
Wrong again.
I will agree about getting free upgrades to existing games though. Sony needs to do the same.
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