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#1 TheEroica  Moderator
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https://www.engadget.com/2018/11/27/sony-patents-a-new-kind-of-game-cartridge/?yptr=yahoo

Sony is developing a game cartridge similar in size and scop to a Nintendo switch cart...

So here's my blanket thoughts...

Y'all messed up by not getting a vita. It's still on par with the game library and functionality of the switch, albeit with a much smaller screen.

Sony effed up marketing and supporting the device so I can blame anyone...

If the ps5 is a switch type device I'm so In... Take my money.

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Sony and handheld feels like a failure in the making.

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#4  Edited By SolidGame_basic
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A lot of people like to talk about Sony's failure with the Vita. What about Nintendo going from 150 million units sold with the DS, to 70 million with the 3DS? It's pretty clear that smartphones and tablets had a lot to do with both systems' performance.

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There never seemed a great reason to buy a Vita in my opinion. And whenever I came close the massively overpriced memory put me off.

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#6  Edited By deactivated-5bfefe0ca606d
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Everyone should support SONY over the kid friendly company Nintendo that ruined SEGA which was ten times cooler. If anything Nintendo should just end, its for kids or manboys not men. I support SONY 100% if they make it, whatever it is.

I hope its nothing like Switch ugh. But something handheld that is ten times cooler than anything else

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#7 ellos
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Unless its a part of devices that can play ps5 games I don't see it doing any better then what Vita did. There is just no room for a stand alone handheld systems. Not even for nintendo these days.

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@sauer21: why only 10 times why not 11 or 12. Perhaps ever 15 times cooler?

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@sauer21: why only 10 times why not 11 or 12. Perhaps ever 15 times cooler?

Good question. I just hope they make something along of an updated PS Vita that will sell well. Like just really just a tad bit bigger screen and just make it really good. But its gonna be interesting to see.

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@sauer21: without put the rip off priced memory of course and some quality games like Zelda and mario and I think it would be a winner!

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@sauer21: without put the rip off priced memory of course and some quality games like Zelda and mario and I think it would be a winner!

Mario and Zelda is for kids. I dont like nintendo games in a nutshell. Well Switch is what made me hate it mostly. Due to the manboys reviewing it online. But i had wii because i thought it was unique. But Zelda went from realism middle ages in SNES N64 to neutral nerd fantasy, and breath of the wild was the last straw. So i absolutely could care less about nintendo games anymore.

But you got a point, i heard the main criticism of Vita is the prize of memory sticks. I dont know if its valid or not, since i dont own a Vita. But i do hope SONY just can market it better as good handheld console and just upgrade it and thats all that is needed in my view. Just make it easy to develop games for with really good hardware the same way PS4 is doing good now

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If it's like the Switch, then I'm in

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@TheEroica said:

https://www.engadget.com/2018/11/27/sony-patents-a-new-kind-of-game-cartridge/?yptr=yahoo

Sony is developing a game cartridge similar in size and scop to a Nintendo switch cart...

So here's my blanket thoughts...

Y'all messed up by not getting a vita. It's still on par with the game library and functionality of the switch, albeit with a much smaller screen.

Sony effed up marketing and supporting the device so I can blame anyone...

If the ps5 is a switch type device I'm so In... Take my money.

Lol its not even close to the Switch in terms of game library. Granted I really enjoy the Vita and use it as my PS1 classic and it is an excellent little machine if you like importing. However I'm very skeptical of another Sony portable. They made some very big blunders with the Vita.

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Even if they are I doubt it's some new fangled technology. After all Switch carts are just SD flash cards set to read only - nothing special about them.

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I’d be down with that myself. Hopefully they don’t botch like they did with the Vita though.

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#16  Edited By deactivated-5bfefe0ca606d
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@svaubel said:
@TheEroica said:

https://www.engadget.com/2018/11/27/sony-patents-a-new-kind-of-game-cartridge/?yptr=yahoo

Sony is developing a game cartridge similar in size and scop to a Nintendo switch cart...

So here's my blanket thoughts...

Y'all messed up by not getting a vita. It's still on par with the game library and functionality of the switch, albeit with a much smaller screen.

Sony effed up marketing and supporting the device so I can blame anyone...

If the ps5 is a switch type device I'm so In... Take my money.

Lol its not even close to the Switch in terms of game library. Granted I really enjoy the Vita and use it as my PS1 classic and it is an excellent little machine if you like importing. However I'm very skeptical of another Sony portable. They made some very big blunders with the Vita.

Oh yeah. Because Switch have so many games lol. Let me guess, its mostly all indie games from Steam. Good one. PS4 ftw though

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Wouldn't it be a bit foolish to trust Sony with handhelds?

Sure it turned out okay, but that was despite Sony rather than because of them.

And it's easy to say 'it matches switch' in terms of games, but the switch is just getting started, library is growing and sales are catching it up with the Xbone.

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I'd consider it if supported your existing library - atleast the games that work on PS4.

Otherwise probably going to pass.

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@TheEroica said:

If the ps5 is a switch type device I'm so In... Take my money.

Another sh*tty switch...fck off sony

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Knowing Sony, they won't support the system themselves... And I wonder if this time 3rd party companies can keep it alive. Now that they found success on the Switch. I honestly don't see Sony having a chance to compete against the Switch. They burnt their bridges with the Vita.

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Yeah no Sony proved with the VITA how they're not serious about handheld gaming. At this point it would take a lot from Sony to convince me to buy their handhelds again.

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#22  Edited By jeezers
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I bought the very first psp, it was a complete paper weight, nintendo has dominated the handheld scene. I wouldnt be surprised if sony copied nintendo on the switch, detachable joy cons and all, kinda like when they showed off their wii motes ooops i mean PS Move.

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Nothing will come of this.

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@sauer21: yikes man, you have some seriously jaded views on Nintendo. They've sustained as long as they have because of one reason, they make compelling games for a wide margin of people... Its not kiddie, and games don't have to subscribe to being overly serious.

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#25 TheEroica  Moderator
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@knight-k: the switch is an awesome device... So many games!! Don't hate.

Pswitch5 is gonna be awesome!

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@TheEroica said:

@sauer21: yikes man, you have some seriously jaded views on Nintendo. They've sustained as long as they have because of one reason, they make compelling games for a wide margin of people... Its not kiddie, and games don't have to subscribe to being overly serious.

Well i used to like nintendo, but then nintendo switch happend. I wasnt particularly into nintendo but i still respected them. Maybe my anger is how much American grown men worship this thing quote on manboys, and that is just not the way to live your life in my view. I am not anti fun, but i really dont believe femininity is the way to solve problems, it leads to pain and misery if you cant get stuff out through physical means.

Its either case why i just prefer PC, Playstation and Xbox now, because they have stuff on there that could make the sensitive minds of people who are into that just sort of go away. If the gaming market was flooded with realistic games, it would be the best thing ever.

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I'd like to thank Vita owners for beta testing the switch.

You are the real MVP's.

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@SolidGame_basic said:

A lot of people like to talk about Sony's failure with the Vita. What about Nintendo going from 150 million units sold with the DS, to 70 million with the 3DS? It's pretty clear that smartphones and tablets had a lot to do with both systems' performance.

You can't always compare to your biggest hit. I mean geez, Wii sold 100 million, but that's not likely to happen again for Nintendo for along long time.

And yeah smartphones ate up a huge piece of that market, 70 million for a handheld that stumbled out of the gate is amazing.

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@sauer21 said:
@TheEroica said:

@sauer21: yikes man, you have some seriously jaded views on Nintendo. They've sustained as long as they have because of one reason, they make compelling games for a wide margin of people... Its not kiddie, and games don't have to subscribe to being overly serious.

Well i used to like nintendo, but then nintendo switch happend. I wasnt particularly into nintendo but i still respected them. Maybe my anger is how much American grown men worship this thing quote on manboys, and that is just not the way to live your life in my view. I am not anti fun, but i really dont believe femininity is the way to solve problems, it leads to pain and misery if you cant get stuff out through physical means.

Its either case why i just prefer PC, Playstation and Xbox now, because they have stuff on there that could make the sensitive minds of people who are into that just sort of go away. If the gaming market was flooded with realistic games, it would be the best thing ever.

Playstation has more manboys, thats where all the Jrpg weeaboo neckbeards play their anime titty games where they pretend to fight monsters while also being a high school virgin.

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Unless it's an integral part of PS5, I don't see it happening... they don't have the studios anymore to support a seperate system like Vita.

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@SolidGame_basic said:

A lot of people like to talk about Sony's failure with the Vita. What about Nintendo going from 150 million units sold with the DS, to 70 million with the 3DS? It's pretty clear that smartphones and tablets had a lot to do with both systems' performance.

70 million is not a failure by any stretch of the imagination.

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No thanks. Sony sucks.

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@jeezers said:
@sauer21 said:
@TheEroica said:

@sauer21: yikes man, you have some seriously jaded views on Nintendo. They've sustained as long as they have because of one reason, they make compelling games for a wide margin of people... Its not kiddie, and games don't have to subscribe to being overly serious.

Well i used to like nintendo, but then nintendo switch happend. I wasnt particularly into nintendo but i still respected them. Maybe my anger is how much American grown men worship this thing quote on manboys, and that is just not the way to live your life in my view. I am not anti fun, but i really dont believe femininity is the way to solve problems, it leads to pain and misery if you cant get stuff out through physical means.

Its either case why i just prefer PC, Playstation and Xbox now, because they have stuff on there that could make the sensitive minds of people who are into that just sort of go away. If the gaming market was flooded with realistic games, it would be the best thing ever.

Playstation has more manboys, thats where all the Jrpg weeaboo neckbeards play their anime titty games where they pretend to fight monsters while also being a high school virgin.

Those are for swaggers not kids. So its not the same

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@sauer21: dude, you just stereotyped the hell out of the switch... Femininity? A video game console?

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#35  Edited By Shewgenja
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What if it's not only like Switch but also supports AR/VR on-the-go as well as having a discrete gpu in the dock for supporting 4k gaming and beyond when connected to tv?

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LOL all the Sony fans are like noooooooo and all the Ninty fans are like yesssssss more please!

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@sauer21 said:

Everyone should support SONY over the kid friendly company Nintendo that ruined SEGA which was ten times cooler. If anything Nintendo should just end, its for kids or manboys not men. I support SONY 100% if they make it, whatever it is.

I hope its nothing like Switch ugh. But something handheld that is ten times cooler than anything else

Look up some youtube videos... Sega killed themselves with the 32X and Saturn launch debacle, they turned a Sony partnership down just like Nintendo did... and then PLAYSTATION swept in and took away all their market share with a much better priced and popular system TWICE with the PS1 over the Saturn and the PS2 over the Dreamcast.

Sony killed Sega, not Nintendo

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@drummerdave9099 said:
@sauer21 said:

Everyone should support SONY over the kid friendly company Nintendo that ruined SEGA which was ten times cooler. If anything Nintendo should just end, its for kids or manboys not men. I support SONY 100% if they make it, whatever it is.

I hope its nothing like Switch ugh. But something handheld that is ten times cooler than anything else

Look up some youtube videos... Sega killed themselves with the 32X and Saturn launch debacle, they turned a Sony partnership down just like Nintendo did... and then PLAYSTATION swept in and took away all their market share with a much better priced and popular system TWICE with the PS1 over the Saturn and the PS2 over the Dreamcast.

Sony killed Sega, not Nintendo

SEGA got much of the blame so it was the time period, overly hysterical democrats who believed violence in video games are bad. And while SONY did something SEGA didnt. It was mostly just Nintendo being annoying. Playstation rules either way. I would prefer SEGA over nintendo every day

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@TheEroica said:

https://www.engadget.com/2018/11/27/sony-patents-a-new-kind-of-game-cartridge/?yptr=yahoo

Sony is developing a game cartridge similar in size and scop to a Nintendo switch cart...

So here's my blanket thoughts...

Y'all messed up by not getting a vita. It's still on par with the game library and functionality of the switch, albeit with a much smaller screen.

Sony effed up marketing and supporting the device so I can blame anyone...

If the ps5 is a switch type device I'm so In... Take my money.

Could be a cartridge for VR head set. Cell Phones own the mobile market now.

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@sauer21 said:
@jeezers said:
@sauer21 said:
@TheEroica said:

@sauer21: yikes man, you have some seriously jaded views on Nintendo. They've sustained as long as they have because of one reason, they make compelling games for a wide margin of people... Its not kiddie, and games don't have to subscribe to being overly serious.

Well i used to like nintendo, but then nintendo switch happend. I wasnt particularly into nintendo but i still respected them. Maybe my anger is how much American grown men worship this thing quote on manboys, and that is just not the way to live your life in my view. I am not anti fun, but i really dont believe femininity is the way to solve problems, it leads to pain and misery if you cant get stuff out through physical means.

Its either case why i just prefer PC, Playstation and Xbox now, because they have stuff on there that could make the sensitive minds of people who are into that just sort of go away. If the gaming market was flooded with realistic games, it would be the best thing ever.

Playstation has more manboys, thats where all the Jrpg weeaboo neckbeards play their anime titty games where they pretend to fight monsters while also being a high school virgin.

Those are for swaggers not kids. So its not the same

Your manbaby argument is dumb, my grandma is 79 and loves playing super mario world, mario is universally loved by both adults and children, nintendo has the most iconic characters. Then look at persona 5, its all for the weeaboo, neckbeard, fedora wearing, hentai manbabies.

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@jeezers said:
@sauer21 said:
@jeezers said:
@sauer21 said:
@TheEroica said:

@sauer21: yikes man, you have some seriously jaded views on Nintendo. They've sustained as long as they have because of one reason, they make compelling games for a wide margin of people... Its not kiddie, and games don't have to subscribe to being overly serious.

Well i used to like nintendo, but then nintendo switch happend. I wasnt particularly into nintendo but i still respected them. Maybe my anger is how much American grown men worship this thing quote on manboys, and that is just not the way to live your life in my view. I am not anti fun, but i really dont believe femininity is the way to solve problems, it leads to pain and misery if you cant get stuff out through physical means.

Its either case why i just prefer PC, Playstation and Xbox now, because they have stuff on there that could make the sensitive minds of people who are into that just sort of go away. If the gaming market was flooded with realistic games, it would be the best thing ever.

Playstation has more manboys, thats where all the Jrpg weeaboo neckbeards play their anime titty games where they pretend to fight monsters while also being a high school virgin.

Those are for swaggers not kids. So its not the same

Your manbaby argument is dumb, my grandma is 79 and loves playing super mario world, mario is universally loved by both adults and children, nintendo has the most iconic characters. Then look at persona 5, its all for the weeaboo, neckbeard, fedora wearing, hentai manbabies.

But she is a good person. Thats the difference.

Also i am not into those games either, but either case those are just swaggers. I consider manboys much more curse.

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@sauer21 said:
@jeezers said:
@sauer21 said:
@jeezers said:
@sauer21 said:

Well i used to like nintendo, but then nintendo switch happend. I wasnt particularly into nintendo but i still respected them. Maybe my anger is how much American grown men worship this thing quote on manboys, and that is just not the way to live your life in my view. I am not anti fun, but i really dont believe femininity is the way to solve problems, it leads to pain and misery if you cant get stuff out through physical means.

Its either case why i just prefer PC, Playstation and Xbox now, because they have stuff on there that could make the sensitive minds of people who are into that just sort of go away. If the gaming market was flooded with realistic games, it would be the best thing ever.

Playstation has more manboys, thats where all the Jrpg weeaboo neckbeards play their anime titty games where they pretend to fight monsters while also being a high school virgin.

Those are for swaggers not kids. So its not the same

Your manbaby argument is dumb, my grandma is 79 and loves playing super mario world, mario is universally loved by both adults and children, nintendo has the most iconic characters. Then look at persona 5, its all for the weeaboo, neckbeard, fedora wearing, hentai manbabies.

But she is a good person. Thats the difference.

Also i am not into those games either, but either case those are just swaggers. I consider manboys much more curse.

I dont know the term swaggers, i just see them as bigger manboys and find their weeaboo BS more toxic. To each thier own

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#43  Edited By TheEroica  Moderator
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@sauer21: what's a swagger?

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@jeezers said:
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Those are for swaggers not kids. So its not the same

Your manbaby argument is dumb, my grandma is 79 and loves playing super mario world, mario is universally loved by both adults and children, nintendo has the most iconic characters. Then look at persona 5, its all for the weeaboo, neckbeard, fedora wearing, hentai manbabies.

But she is a good person. Thats the difference.

Also i am not into those games either, but either case those are just swaggers. I consider manboys much more curse.

I dont know the term swaggers, i just see them as bigger manboys and find their weeaboo BS more toxic. To each thier own

No. See here is the main different. A weeb, JRPG guy or whatever looks like this. Not the one below.

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#45 jeezers
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@sauer21 said:
@jeezers said:
@sauer21 said:
@jeezers said:
@sauer21 said:

Those are for swaggers not kids. So its not the same

Your manbaby argument is dumb, my grandma is 79 and loves playing super mario world, mario is universally loved by both adults and children, nintendo has the most iconic characters. Then look at persona 5, its all for the weeaboo, neckbeard, fedora wearing, hentai manbabies.

But she is a good person. Thats the difference.

Also i am not into those games either, but either case those are just swaggers. I consider manboys much more curse.

I dont know the term swaggers, i just see them as bigger manboys and find their weeaboo BS more toxic. To each thier own

No. See here is the main different. A weeb, JRPG guy or whatever looks like this. Not the one below.

lol your being way too nice to the weeaboos

its more like this

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#46 deactivated-5bfefe0ca606d
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@jeezers said:
@sauer21 said:
@jeezers said:
@sauer21 said:
@jeezers said:

Your manbaby argument is dumb, my grandma is 79 and loves playing super mario world, mario is universally loved by both adults and children, nintendo has the most iconic characters. Then look at persona 5, its all for the weeaboo, neckbeard, fedora wearing, hentai manbabies.

But she is a good person. Thats the difference.

Also i am not into those games either, but either case those are just swaggers. I consider manboys much more curse.

I dont know the term swaggers, i just see them as bigger manboys and find their weeaboo BS more toxic. To each thier own

No. See here is the main different. A weeb, JRPG guy or whatever looks like this. Not the one below.

lol your being way too nice to the weeaboos

its more like this

Still ten times better than nintendo manboys who own Switch online

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#47 deactivated-5c18005f903a1
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@sauer21 said:
@jeezers said:
@sauer21 said:
@jeezers said:
@sauer21 said:

But she is a good person. Thats the difference.

Also i am not into those games either, but either case those are just swaggers. I consider manboys much more curse.

I dont know the term swaggers, i just see them as bigger manboys and find their weeaboo BS more toxic. To each thier own

No. See here is the main different. A weeb, JRPG guy or whatever looks like this. Not the one below.

lol your being way too nice to the weeaboos

its more like this

Still ten times better than nintendo manboys who own Switch online

Better in what respect?

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@boycie: They are not effeminate

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@sauer21 said:

@boycie: They are not effeminate

What's wrong with being effeminate?

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#50 deactivated-5bfefe0ca606d
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@boycie said:
@sauer21 said:

@boycie: They are not effeminate

What's wrong with being effeminate?

Everything. Its sexual abusive, its unatural, it kills your nature as a person when effeminate culture takes over