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#1  Edited By Salt_The_Fries
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http://segmentnext.com/2015/11/16/sony-product-manager-posts-poor-rise-of-the-tomb-raider-uk-sales-dev-thinks-it-will-do-better-on-ps4/

PS4 senior product manager Chris Brown and Paul Rustchynsky, a director of a game that had a very troubled launch and history, DriveClub might have set a new level of low.

Way to represent the industry...

And to use Fallout 4 sales figures from 3 platforms from 4 days over 2 platforms with 85/15 split in favour of X1 and with just one day worth of sales.

BTW this is esentially "more news at 11" - one major corporation smearing another one and saying it's better than the other one, but disgusting nonetheless.

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#2  Edited By SecretPolice
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Another thread that delivers lol. :P

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#3  Edited By deactivated-5ebea105efb64
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#4 NathanDrakeSwag
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Your were so eager to take a shot at Sony that you ruined your own topic.

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#5  Edited By deactivated-5a44ec138c1e6
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Where's the padlock?

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#7 Salt_The_Fries
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I'm terribly sorry - I put everything in the OP using embed Tweet feature and then it would cut the whole topic to two first words in the quoted tweet. I re-edited it, and it would show up properly, but upon refreshing it reverted to previous clusterfuck but now it should be good.

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#9 Zero_epyon
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@Slashkice said:

I don't see any butthurt.

The game bombed in the UK. Poor Tomb Raider indeed.

And Fallout apparently sold better on PS4 regardless of Xbox One support. Nothing he said was false.

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#10 Zero_epyon
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I'm with him on this, just because I don't like console exclusivity. The game was already being built for all platforms, but MS persuaded them to be made on just Xbox Consoles. And yes I think it's equally stupid that Sony did the same with Street Fighter 5. These games aren't meant to be exclusives.

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#11 tormentos
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Hahahaahaaaaaaaa..

What a crappy thread now saying the truth is crying..lol

The game sold like crap compare to a remake in UK what other game isaw do this and totally underperformed sales wise in US as well.? Oh Halo 5..lol

Fact is the game would have sold better on PS4 it doesn't take PHD to know that,it has a bigger user base and it would have done better. Is reality.

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@Zero_epyon: Sony didn't do the same thing.

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#13  Edited By LJS9502_basic  Online
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@Zero_epyon said:

I'm with him on this, just because I don't like console exclusivity. The game was already being built for all platforms, but MS persuaded them to be made on just Xbox Consoles. And yes I think it's equally stupid that Sony did the same with Street Fighter 5. These games aren't meant to be exclusives.

Apples and oranges.

Also TC....I'm not seeing Sony butt hurt. Try harder.

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@Zero_epyon said:
@Slashkice said:

I don't see any butthurt.

The game bombed in the UK. Poor Tomb Raider indeed.

And Fallout apparently sold better on PS4 regardless of Xbox One support. Nothing he said was false.

PS4 appears to WIN again.

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#15  Edited By deactivated-58ce94803a170
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That butthurt is too good. Keep it coming.

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#16 delta3074
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SONY thinks there devs could do a better job?

Yeah right, when SONY first party studios struggle to make a AAAE game at the moment, the only AAAE on the PS4 is bloodborne and thats not first party development.

Regardless of what Tomb raider sales where like it's a good game.

Theres SO much butthurt from Cows on here about Tomb raider.

Watch all the A holes that slag it off on the Xbone run out and buy it day one when it eventually gets to the Ps4.

But all i see at the moment is Cows crying because they cannot get a bloody good game like Rise of the tomb raider on there console.

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#17 delta3074
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@StrongBlackVine said:

@Zero_epyon: Sony didn't do the same thing.

They have both money hatted third party games thats how the Ps1 got so big in the first place (third party exclusives)

They are both as bad as each other when it comes to this, deal with it.

Don't F***ijng act like SONY is a Saintly company and doesn't do things like this, they do, Constantly.

Explain why SF 5 will come to PC but not Xbone if it's not money hatting.

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#18 Zero_epyon
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@StrongBlackVine: How so?

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#19  Edited By KratosYOLOSwag
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Sony showing sympathy after Microsoft killed the Tomb Raider franchise. Truly an amazing company, the Mother Theresa of gaming. If Square Enix begs Sony they might step in to save the franchise by funding a sequel similar to them saving Street Fighter and Shenmue.

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@delta3074 said:

SONY thinks there devs could do a better job?

Yeah right, when SONY first party studios struggle to make a AAAE game at the moment, the only AAAE on the PS4 is bloodborne and thats not first party development.

Regardless of what Tomb raider sales where like it's a good game.

Theres SO much butthurt from Cows on here about Tomb raider.

Watch all the A holes that slag it off on the Xbone run out and buy it day one when it eventually gets to the Ps4.

But all i see at the moment is Cows crying because they cannot get a bloody good game like Rise of the tomb raider on there console.

LOL ITT this thread it's whining about Sony....not the other way around. Put your fan boy aside.

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I hear BH Ointment is the #1 seller on Amazon these dayzzz. :P

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#23  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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@delta3074: PS4 has the best exclusive and imo best game period this year. #dealwithit

Maybe one day a Xbox "exclusive" can hit 90 Metacritic, but probably not.

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#24  Edited By Cloud_imperium
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So unprofessional.

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#25 lostrib
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Dafuq is this shit

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#26 StrongBlackVine
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@kwns: It deserves to flop because Square Enix made a dumb decision. Actions have consequences and maybe ROTR needs to be an example for any one else thinking about making a deal with Xbox.

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#27  Edited By dan_mimmsie
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Who ever thinks sony where butt hurt over this is either a fanboy or a complete idiot. Prolly would of done better on ps4 due to better attach rate and secondly it doesnt help either that tomb Raider released next to a top 3rd party game which is fallout 4

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#28 imt558
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@Zero_epyon:

But SFV wasn't in development, Tomb Raider was since 2013. That's the difference

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#29  Edited By deactivated-5a30e101a977c
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The exact opposite of a classy guy like Phil Spencer. Now we know where their fanbase gets it from

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@Cloud_imperium said:

So unprofessional.

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#31  Edited By imt558
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@Salt_The_Fries:

Lol! What butthurt? ROTR flopped, dude. I only see salty lems here because poor ROTR sales.

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#32 Heil68
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@kwns said:
@Heil68 said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@Slashkice said:

I don't see any butthurt.

The game bombed in the UK. Poor Tomb Raider indeed.

And Fallout apparently sold better on PS4 regardless of Xbox One support. Nothing he said was false.

PS4 appears to WIN again.

Kind of obvious now why PS4 fanboys act so childish. Sony devs have no class. Why say anything just worry about your own game.

The game is on xbox one for a full year PS4 won nothing . Enjoy the game next year it deserves sales.

I'm playing it now. Rented of course. I'll buy next year for PS4.

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#33 Salt_The_Fries
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The amount of glitches Gamespot gave me when creating this thread was so unreal...but I now hope everything's fine.

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#34 LJS9502_basic  Online
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Ah the OP is finally fixed so I can read it. Looks like he was saying going against Fallout was the problem. Only butt hurt I see here is TCs.

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@Zero_epyon said:

@StrongBlackVine: How so?

For one thing, SFV is coming to PC on the same day release. Rise of the Tomb Raider should have been Xbox One/360 and PC release. A PC version should have been an exception. I'm getting tired of this whole Sony SFV exclusive and it's not PS4 exclusive, cause it's coming to PC.

As far as Rise of the Tomb Raider launch goes, MS were damn fools to release it on the same day for Fallout 4. Should have release it a week later before Fallout 4, fools I tell ya.

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#37 Giancar
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How can they be butthurt if the game is bombing in UK and most likely everywhere? =S

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#38 Salt_The_Fries
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@LJS9502_basic said:

Ah the OP is finally fixed so I can read it. Looks like he was saying going against Fallout was the problem. Only butt hurt I see here is TCs.

3 platforms and 4 days worth of sales vs 1 day and virtually one platform (X360 accounts for 15% of sales).

You keep telling yourselves that. Even if they would've been right, that's still not a way to behave on their positions.

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#39 Zero_epyon
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@imt558 said:

@Zero_epyon:

But SFV wasn't in development, Tomb Raider was since 2013. That's the difference

I don't see how the point in time of development has to do with the fact that they paid for exclusivity?

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Lems butthurt the games flopped in sales

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#41  Edited By imt558
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@Salt_The_Fries:

Lol! Virtually X360! There is around 10 mil. X360 in UK. Virtually..LOL

You're virtually salty Xboner

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@Salt_The_Fries said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

Ah the OP is finally fixed so I can read it. Looks like he was saying going against Fallout was the problem. Only butt hurt I see here is TCs.

3 platforms and 4 days worth of sales vs 1 day and virtually one platform (X360 accounts for 15% of sales).

You keep telling yourselves that. Even if they would've been right, that's still not a way to behave on their positions.

Which has nothing to do with what I said. Try harder.

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#43  Edited By Salt_The_Fries
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@imt558 said:

@Salt_The_Fries:

Lol! Virtualy X360! There is around 10 mil. X360 in UK. Virtualy...LOL

But out of 63k sales, only 15% of that figure are numbers from the 360 version.

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#44 UltimateImp
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I only see truth and facts supported by numbers here, of course he's going to say this. It only makes sense.

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@StrongBlackVine said:

@delta3074: PS4 has the best exclusive and imo best game period this year. #dealwithit

Maybe one day a Xbox "exclusive" can hit 90 Metacritic, but probably not.

Maybe one day your IQ will reach 90...

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@Salt_The_Fries said:
@StrongBlackVine said:

@delta3074: PS4 has the best exclusive and imo best game period this year. #dealwithit

Maybe one day a Xbox "exclusive" can hit 90 Metacritic, but probably not.

Maybe one day your IQ will reach 90...

Damn dude don't be so butt hurt that you have to flame other people. It's okay....you can play your favorite piece of plastic.

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#47  Edited By deactivated-5a30e101a977c
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@ultimateimp said:

I only see truth and facts supported by numbers here, of course he's going to say this. It only makes sense.

Not really... Did you ever see a Microsoft executive tweet about the downtime of DriveClub at launch? Or anything remotely the same about a PS4 title? Just Microsoft executives tweeting about a PS4 exclusive, timed-exclusive title in general.

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@delta3074 said:

SONY thinks there devs could do a better job?

Yeah right, when SONY first party studios struggle to make a AAAE game at the moment, the only AAAE on the PS4 is bloodborne and thats not first party development.

Regardless of what Tomb raider sales where like it's a good game.

Theres SO much butthurt from Cows on here about Tomb raider.

Watch all the A holes that slag it off on the Xbone run out and buy it day one when it eventually gets to the Ps4.

But all i see at the moment is Cows crying because they cannot get a bloody good game like Rise of the tomb raider on there console.

Hahahahaaa are you shitting me.? Hahahahaaa

Halo 5 lowest score halo ever.

Forza 5 lowest score forza ever.

Forza 6 Failed to achieve the 90% glory of the series.

In fact the last 2 Halo games 4 and 5 have below 90 average,the last 2 forza have below 90 average,when was the last time a MS game hit 90% on meta.?

2011.?

In fact sony last big AAAE games was a 2013 game call TLOU 95% on meta higher than anything MS or sony it self has release this gen.

MS could not even deliver MCC in good shape and ruined what was a collection of basically AAAE games.

Tomb Raider underperformed,also what the fu** does quality of sony games or being AAAE have to do with Tomb Raider flopping which isn't a damn AAAE game at all.

Nice meltdown bro....

@delta3074 said:

They have both money hatted third party games thats how the Ps1 got so big in the first place (third party exclusives)

They are both as bad as each other when it comes to this, deal with it.

Don't F***ijng act like SONY is a Saintly company and doesn't do things like this, they do, Constantly.

Explain why SF 5 will come to PC but not Xbone if it's not money hatting.

Not even close to what happen back then,if i could name a game or 2 that were probably pay by sony would be MGS and FF7.

You are completely ignoring that sony played its card right,had little to no royalties on the PS1 when Nintendo for years was accuse of abusing 3rd parties with high royalties and in many cases making deals where the developer basically handle the rights to the game,is the reason why some Snes games could not even be made available as collection on PS and other platforms.

3rd parties were sick of Nintendo high ass royalties,The PS1 not only gave them more room for profits but games moved faster to because they were not as expensive to deliver like cardtrige were,you think most games on PS1 were pay by sony to be exclusive and that is not even close to what really happen,the reason the PS was so popular didn't have to do alone with games but also pricing a $50 game vs a $70 game i payed $79 for MK2 on Snes sames for SF2,they were brutal and yet even with those prices 3rd parties received less from Nintendo than what they got with sony.

The PS2 was the same,few games sony pay for anything GTA3 after it became a sucess,and very other few,most PS2 games were exclusives because it was good busines,the PS2 had more than 250 games on the making before it even launch.

Hell who knows if sony didn't even offer money to square a good deal of no royalties every after the sellers cut is your would have sufice vs what Nintendo was doing,didn't help that the N64 arrived in 96 when the PS4 landed on holiday 94.

I personally have no problems with those kind of deals,some people act as not being the same as what sony did with SF5 for me is the same because the end result is the same less platforms getting the game because of a deal,but i don't have a problem with that is business as usual on the console market.

But the reality is the game bombed sales wise and is sad,hell i would have hold it until spring 2016 maybe Jannuary leave some room to gamers to get back on track not every one has the money to buy Fallout,COD blackops Halo and tomb raider at the same time,and that is were preorities kick in.

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@FastRobby said:
@ultimateimp said:

I only see truth and facts supported by numbers here, of course he's going to say this. It only makes sense.

Not really... Did you ever see a Microsoft executive tweet about the downtime of DriveClub at launch? Or anything remotely the same about a PS4 title? Just Microsoft executives tweeting about a PS4 exclusive, timed-exclusive title in general.

Saying poor TR and going against Fallout is worth shedding tears over? Why aren't you guys playing TR rather than whining about an innocuous tweet?

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#50  Edited By UltimateImp
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@FastRobby said:
@ultimateimp said:

I only see truth and facts supported by numbers here, of course he's going to say this. It only makes sense.

Not really... Did you ever see a Microsoft executive tweet about the downtime of DriveClub at launch?

Microsoft had a downtime of their own in MCC and Sony didn't take a jab at them for it either, but last week MS took a jab at Sony on something else. Who really gives a ****? I don't, why? As a reasonable person, I have no allegiance to a a piece of plastic.