Some say the human eye can't see -30fps VS 60FPS-

you da man B-Hazy...we all see it.

Here is better example of 15fps vs 30fps vs 60fps . Those gifs aren't doing this debate a justice .

(Recommended to watch it in Google Chrome)

http://boallen.com/fps-compare.html

EDIT : You can clearly see the difference in gifs posted by TC , as well . (you need to watch it in chrome . Firefox makes it look similar)

except the ones in this thread show actual gameplay rather than floating blocks

The 30 vs 60 fps debate is always console oriented no matter how you slice it because any person who's ever played a PC game knows that 30fps doesn't just look sluggish, it feels sluggish.

It doesn't matter if you didn't mention a console, the only people this entire debate affects are those who own consoles and do not have an option to play games at 60fps.

Except I never said , it isn't . What did I miss .?

Some people may not be able to 'see' 60fps but you can damn well 'feel' the difference

Meh, there is no difference.

English class?

I think frame rate should be prioritised over resolution. I would take 720/60 over 1080/30, for every type of game. Of course I would prefer 1080+/60+ in every game but that isn't the case, even on PC you will get the odd game that struggles on the most powerful of hardware depending on settings.

I can see how you changed the subject . Not going to take you seriously from now on .

Not really... I run a 5Ghz Core i7 3770k with overclocked Crossfire 290's with a 2560x1440 monitor.

I have v-sync turned on in every game ( Except for counter strike ) and I'm locked 60fps on everything, even Crysis 3 stays locked at 60fps.

Staying at 60fps or higher is mainly about CPU performance as that's what dictates your minimum fps.

That really hurts my feelings

you feel i implied it, that's fine. moving on.

I actually prefer 30fps actually. 60 just looks strange and unnatural to me.

This whole "eye detecting FPS" is bullshit. The human brain can detect motion of up to 140FPS or so however anything above 60 appears as smooth motion, thus the more frames per second a clip has, the smoother the brain will perceive the motion.

Case in point, go watch a fast sport like football. First watch it at 30FPS, then watch it at 60FPS, then watch it on a 200Hz HDTV. You will be able to see the difference in motion.

However, its not that straight cut. games are odd in the fact that they are run at 60FPS or more and still appear normal. This is because its digitially generated content which is that much different from real world examples. For example, go watch a TV show on a PC with a standard TN monitor then watch the same TV show on a new 200Hz HDTV. Notice the odd fluid like motion on the HDTV?

However I can be very wrong and mixed up Hertz and FPS all together.

There is a difference but it really doesn't matter all that much to me. So long as the frame rate is locked and doesn't drop or speed up randomly.

I think this issue is actually SW lore, that you can't tell the difference between 30fps and 60fps. It's an endearing phenomenon. Brings me back. :)

It's really irrelevant if everyone in YOUR game is running at the same FPS.

It only matters on PCs where everyone has all crazy configurations and some people are running on 4-year old $100 hardware vs. some people running on 2-week old $2000 hardware.

On consoles, the playing field is level so nobody cares.

I'm also skeptical of the HZ and FPS being mixed together. Perhaps we should go back to basics when framerates merely indicate how much reserve horsepower a a system has to run a game fluidly.

Anyway, I grew up gaming when PC games rarely reached 24fps. So, 30fps is playable enough to me. Unfortunately, YT drops a lot frames during uploading. So, this video seems jerkier than the original.

you have to view them on the actual linked site, where they are hosted as HTML5, not gifs

Dropping frames isn't really a Youtube problem, thats a recording and encoding problem. I always try to record at 60FPS whenever possible because if you do a dropped frame or two, its fixable.

Why are your gifs so shit? Seriously, there is like a hundred other comparisons that are better then what you have.

try viewing the actual source HTML images next time ;) http://30vs60.com/bf4-running.html

I see no difference between stable framerates, the only difference I can make out is when framerate either increases or decreases.

yes i can see the difference, it's like chalk and bloody cheese.

i'm a 60 fps gamer.

Maybe the TC shouldn't post gifs that only serve to mislead.

Not sure why OP bothered posting shit quality gifs.. WebM's do much better or better yet direct source b/c webM's won't run well on a weak PC..

If you can't tell the difference between 60fps and 30fps you may have been born with an eye defect. And they don't make glasses for that :[

It is a huge difference. Anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot. Also, using GIF's to try and compare FPS is so much fail..

Don't need to look at crappy gifs to know that the difference is huge. People can even notice the difference between 60 FPS and 120 FPS.

Some people also say that 480p is still a good resolution, at a distance.

@tymeservesfate:

Wish you hadn't told which was which. I wanted to laugh at those who picked wrong. The difference is so barely noticeable, if at all. I can enjoy playing either.

You can even see the difference between 60 and 120 fps.

Agreed. I am not a technopredator...............guy............thing. But I guess my eyes are bad. I don't see this MASSIVE difference from 1080p to 720p. And some claim its huge from 900p to 1080p. Its just favoritisms that makes people exaggerate.

You don't have to be a technowhatever to see that there are a lot more pixels being rendered on screen. Go play a PC game and switch from 720p to 1080p. The difference is large.

@JangoWuzHere:

Play PC all the time. I guess its relative to what one considers huge. I don't consider the difference huge. The difference from 480-1080p is huge, imo. But to each their own assessment

It's double the pixel density...your eyes must be pretty terrible

Oh well guess so. Still shot 35/40 and 4/4 at 300m, no scope in US army. But If people really see differently than ok.

This gif is better at showing the difference.

How to you consider the difference between 480p and 1080p huge, but not 720p and 1080p? Seriously?

Completely serious. The difference of starting field position on my 20 yard line or at the opponents 45. Both are away from the goal line, but which difference is bigger?

Play any first person game on PC, limit the game to 30FPS and pan the camera... the do the exact same thing in 60FPS then you will realise.

There is a huge difference between 720p and 1080p. Just because you can't see it doesn't mean people are exaggerating or playing favorites.

Well if the difference between 480 and 1080 is huge, how can the difference between 720 which is closer to 1080 be huge? That's why I said it comes down to each persons assessment of what is huge.

I prefer 1 fps because I can bask in the moment for 1 entire second, every scene. Very photographic

30 fps wit frame rate hitches is terrible. At least 60fps with hitches is tolerable and barely noticeable. Anyone that says otherwise has been sipping mom's kool aid a bit too much.

Gifs, btw.

You need WebM's for this stuff.

Consoles most popular franchise is 60 fps though.

You absolutely can see the difference and saying otherwise is ignorant. Gifs aren't a proper way of judging. Play Battlefield 4 on the PS3 or XB360, then play it on the PS4. I promise youll be able to see and feel the difference.

LMAO...that answer should shut anybody up in this thread XD.

Whoever says that the human eye can't tell the difference between 30 and 60fps is full of shit. There is a major and certainly noticeable difference.

Umm no, just because you can't see the difference doesn't negate all the studies and reports that say there is a difference.