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Poll Should MS fire Phil and hire someone from Sony? (40 votes)

Yes fire Phil and get someone from Sony to run the Xbox division. 50%
Yes fire Phil and hire a lemming from SW to run the company into the ground. 50%

Since Kratos pretty much destroyed the Almighty XB1x as if it was Zeus himself, should MS just fire Phil’s and allow Sony to lens one of their higher ups to turn the Xbox division for MS?

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#1 hrt_rulz01
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I think you should stop making threads... K thanks bye.

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#2 scatteh316
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He really does need to go........ he's done nothing to push the brand forward and has taken so many steps back.

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#3 Bikouchu35
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@scatteh316 said:

He really does need to go........ he's done nothing to push the brand forward and has taken so many steps back.

Hes likeable and down to earth at least unlike the last guy telling people to buy x360 if you don't have internet.

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#4 QuadKnight
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Nah, he's a likable dude. Problem is that it's obvious he has no real power and the folks with the real power at MS don't give a crap about Xbox or gaming. They only care that it's out there but they aren't really interested in gaming the same way Sony and Nintendo are.

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#5 sukraj
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no he should stay

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#6 deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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C'mon people...

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#7 PC_Rocks
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They already did. They hired Phil Harrison from Sony - one of the guys behind the debacle of PS3 and wrong promises. So, I think they really don't care about Xbox.

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#8  Edited By Tigerbalm
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Fill Sphincter is in over his head. Comments like we need a Horizon Zero Dawn or buying a one year exclusivity for Tomb Raider or releasing a mid-gen console with no exclusives to show off its capabilities are examples that he has no idea what he's doing.

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#9  Edited By TheShadowLord07
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Phil Spencer isn't the problem, It's Microsoft that is as he answers to them and their shareholders.

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#10 robert_sparkes  Online
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Phil spencer is doing his best to clear up the mess he came into. He is the right person to get the Xbox division back on track.

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If Phil Spencer retired right now, I would say he was terrible. To sum up his tenure, all he is known for is making promises that never materialized. Trying to appease the Xbox fanboys on twitter, and congratulating the competition.

He also was behind the Tomb Raider time-exclusivity deal that was not well met with the public at large. He was the villain behind that one as well. He basically paid Square-Enix money so the game wouldn't be on other platforms, but at least PC version got the upper hand for releasing 2 months after the Xbox One version. It was funny because he did that to try and compete with the upcoming Uncharted 4 during that Holiday. It didn't work out anyway because UC4 got delayed until that next spring, lol.

Phil Spencer hasn't delivered much but BC. And the BC is just to ensure that Xbox One owners don't flock to the other systems. He tries to mold it to say it's for the gamers, but they are desperately just trying to keep people within their ecosystem and BC wasn't on MS mind at the start of this gen either.

I'd give him a D grade. Which means it can only go up, we'll see at this E3 2018.

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Phil has definitely become some kind of evil cartoon pantomime villain to some people hasn’t he.

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#13  Edited By stuff238
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Phil is a failure at his job. 5 years of Xbone and still no games. Broken promises, false hype and desperation trying to convince lems that BC matters when it doesn’t in real life.

HIs only redeeming quality lems ever talk about is “he is likeable”. Just LMAO.

He will go down as a huge failure like Don Mattrick. Only difference is Mattrick is a jerk and Phil wasn’t. Both liars.

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#14  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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@hrt_rulz01: @i_p_daily: The two dynamic due Xbox One gamers on SW has arrive to save their God. Why am I'm not surprise. For a none troll thread, none of you didn't bother to comment on your beloved God and savior, don't have the guts to give your honest opinion on the guy. But then again, I understand defending Xbox is a religion thing to a fanboy, so I shouldn't be hard on you guys :P

@boycie said:

Phil has definitely become some kind of evil cartoon pantomime villain to some people hasn’t he.

I wouldn't say he's the worst, but he sure ass hell ain't the best.

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The last 8 years are fail for Xbox.

They had their chance with 360 in the early years to break the market and become the king.

Now they've become a joke.

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Wouldn’t be any different if he is in the office or not. He is just a face for MS.

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They should hire a few cows around here, they seem to know how it works

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It's all in your head, 24/7, rent free.

Poo cows. :P

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No, he should stay.

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#20 Tigerbalm
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The way Xbox Fanatics react to this thread is that same reason Microsoft hasn't release any AAAE goodness. You Rabid Xbox Fanatics defend mediocrity.

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#21  Edited By blueinheaven
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There's no point in firing him now he has already killed the Xbox brand stone dead and is now attempting to do the same thing to devs by giving their games away for free on Game Pass.

It's too late to stop him now, he is an absolute disaster in every way imaginable.

No new IP's, no new games from existing IP's outside of State of Decay which the moron is giving away free with Game Pass, he pissed all over the Xbox brand by giving their few meagre exclusives to PC, he doesn't understand why gamers want games at 60fps (I mean fucking seriously?).

People on here making excuses for him honestly deserve the total disaster he has created but hey, he is likeable apparently, so that's all okay then.

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#22  Edited By deactivated-5d1e44cf96229
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There are two parts to this question that require different answers.

Hell no to hiring someone from Sony. I don't want the Xbox division to become obsessed with movie-games like the Playstation division has been this generation.

I do think that they could get someone better than Phil to run the Xbox division though. I think that Phil is just too much of a nice guy for that job. They need somebody with more ruthless aggression. I would love to see Peter Moore return and take the job. He did a great job with the Dreamcast, the original Xbox, and the early years of the Xbox 360 before he left.

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PlayStation and Xbox are already similar enough to each other, why do people want them to be even more similar.

Why do you want 2 consoles to be exactly alike it makes no sense.

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At the miment the Xbox brand has lost that cut throat attitude they had with the 360.

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If they want some of the magic that SONY has bestowed upon the gaming world, then yes.

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#26 Ant_17
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@boycie said:

Phil has definitely become some kind of evil cartoon pantomime villain to some people hasn’t he.

Nah, that would be Major Nelson.

Phil is his minion.

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Man cows are just an embarrassment to gamers. Seriously the amount of shit threads lately is truly telling about fanboys on this site.

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#28  Edited By nomadic8280
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TC - Are you 12?

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@davillain- said:

If Phil Spencer retired right now, I would say he was terrible. To sum up his tenure, all he is known for is making promises that never materialized. Trying to appease the Xbox fanboys on twitter, and congratulating the competition.

He also was behind the Tomb Raider time-exclusivity deal that was not well met with the public at large. He was the villain behind that one as well. He basically paid Square-Enix money so the game wouldn't be on other platforms, but at least PC version got the upper hand for releasing 2 months after the Xbox One version. It was funny because he did that to try and compete with the upcoming Uncharted 4 during that Holiday. It didn't work out anyway because UC4 got delayed until that next spring, lol.

Phil Spencer hasn't delivered much but BC. And the BC is just to ensure that Xbox One owners don't flock to the other systems. He tries to mold it to say it's for the gamers, but they are desperately just trying to keep people within their ecosystem and BC wasn't on MS mind at the start of this gen either.

I'd give him a D grade. Which means it can only go up, we'll see at this E3 2018.

Grades can go down to an F :D

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It's a tough job trying to pick up all the crumbling pieces of the Xbox brand. I think we should judge Phil by how he handles the next Xbox console (if there is one).

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@storm_of_swords said:

There are two parts to this question that require different answers.

Hell no to hiring someone from Sony. I don't want the Xbox division to become obsessed with movie-games like the Playstation division has been this generation.

I do think that they could get someone better than Phil to run the Xbox division though. I think that Phil is just too much of a nice guy for that job. They need somebody with more ruthless aggression. I would love to see Peter Moore return and take the job. He did a great job with the Dreamcast, the original Xbox, and the early years of the Xbox 360 before he left.

I don't want the Xbox division to become obsessed with movie-games like the Playstation division has been this generation.

I can see why you wouldn't want any movie games on the XB1. When you have movie games that floppped like GEOW 4, Quantum Break, ReCore, Ryse etc. who would want a movie game on the xb1.

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@daredevils2k said:
@storm_of_swords said:

There are two parts to this question that require different answers.

Hell no to hiring someone from Sony. I don't want the Xbox division to become obsessed with movie-games like the Playstation division has been this generation.

I do think that they could get someone better than Phil to run the Xbox division though. I think that Phil is just too much of a nice guy for that job. They need somebody with more ruthless aggression. I would love to see Peter Moore return and take the job. He did a great job with the Dreamcast, the original Xbox, and the early years of the Xbox 360 before he left.

I don't want the Xbox division to become obsessed with movie-games like the Playstation division has been this generation.

I can see why you wouldn't want any movie games on the XB1. When you have movie games that floppped like GEOW 4, Quantum Break, ReCore, Ryse etc. who would want a movie game on the xb1.

They say that, but MS wants movie games badly.

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I feel like he is only part of a bigger problem. XBox doesn't need to lose a figurehead, it needs to execute on software. If Spencer has learned from the hard lessons of the past like Scalebound, then he is the right man for the job. That line about losing a game being good for Xbox gamers was some fantastical bullshit, though.

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I'd love it to happen only to see lemmings raging.

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#35  Edited By PAL360
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He is the reason why X1 is an ok console, and not just a kinect machine. The brand is in good hands, in my opinion, they just need better first parties.

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I agree with the above there's nobody could do a better job at this present time.

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#37 TryIt
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@PAL360 said:

He is the reason why X1 is an ok console, and not just a kinect machine. The brand is in good hands, in my opinion, they just need better first parties.

nothing in statement do you mean the quality of the games.

I find it amazing how often so called 'gamers' dont even mention the games

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#38 PAL360
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@tryit: I don't get your post. Care to explain?

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@PAL360 said:

@tryit: I don't get your post. Care to explain?

and that is more evidence of the problem with gamers...

I am just saying you mentioned Xbox is ok and you gave reasons.

not a single one of those reasons was the games themselves.

you know..playing games and all?

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#40 PAL360
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@tryit: Hmm it seems you are aiming at the wrong person, buddy.

Not only videogames have been my passion for over 3 decades, i have been defending how good indies have been doing to this industry lately. You know, because diversity, experimentation, gameplay, etc...

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@PAL360 said:

@tryit: Hmm it seems you are aiming at the wrong person, buddy.

Not only videogames have been my passion for over 3 decades, i have been defending how good indies have been doing to this industry lately. You know, because diversity, experimentation, gameplay, etc...

For the third time

In your reasons why you feel the Xbox is a good thing, not one of those reasons did you mention game play.

playing the games is for me the ONLY reason I select one platform over another

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#42 PAL360
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@tryit: Competition is healthy, some great IPs like Forza, Halo, etc... No, forget it. I think Xbox is a good thing because i like the name. Are we ok?

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@PAL360 said:

@tryit: Competition is healthy, some great IPs like Forza, Halo, etc... No, forget it. I think Xbox is a good thing because i like the name. Are we ok?

it was like pulling teeth but yeah, got it out of you :)

Your game list is in part why I play Steam instead, better games in my opinion

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At this point I think he doesn't even make decisions on the division anymore, he looks more like a figurehead honestly

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#46  Edited By QuadKnight
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@lipgallagher: Ironiic onsidering Xbone isn’t getting any new games at all and is banking on remasters and BC.

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#47  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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@Ant_17 said:
@daredevils2k said:
@storm_of_swords said:

There are two parts to this question that require different answers.

Hell no to hiring someone from Sony. I don't want the Xbox division to become obsessed with movie-games like the Playstation division has been this generation.

I do think that they could get someone better than Phil to run the Xbox division though. I think that Phil is just too much of a nice guy for that job. They need somebody with more ruthless aggression. I would love to see Peter Moore return and take the job. He did a great job with the Dreamcast, the original Xbox, and the early years of the Xbox 360 before he left.

I don't want the Xbox division to become obsessed with movie-games like the Playstation division has been this generation.

I can see why you wouldn't want any movie games on the XB1. When you have movie games that floppped like GEOW 4, Quantum Break, ReCore, Ryse etc. who would want a movie game on the xb1.

They say that, but MS wants movie games badly.

Needs more Vibranium. If that BP console was made of Vibranium, I'd buy it!

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The problem is MS new IP just haven't lived up to expectations none are terrible games but not 9's.

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#50 QuadKnight
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@lipgallagher said:
@quadknight said:

@lipgallagher: Ironic. Considering Xbone isn’t getting any new games at all and is banking on remasters.

Oddly enough, the Xbox One is getting nothing BUT new games. Unlike the RemasterStation which getting nothing but Remasters and milks UnchartedGranTurismoKillzone over and over....

? And what are these new games? You’re delusional.