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#1 nintendoboy16
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Source: GoNintendo

The reasons are that he felt that people were getting tired of the series and felt the series hasn't evolved that much.

In other parts regarding this, he also wants to know WHY gamers want a new F-Zero and wonders what they want from it that hasn't been done before.

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Your thoughts? (Judging by the above statement, this will not go well...)

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He spelled Mario wrong.

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#3 nintendoboy16
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He spelled Mario wrong.

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Looking at the F-Zero sales since GX compared to the sales of the average Mario and Zelda game, can you blame him (or anyone at Nintendo for that matter)?
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he also wants to know WHY gamers want a new F-Zero and wonders what they want from it that hasn't been done before.

nintendoboy16

Seriously?

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#5 ms555
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Yeah i heard this at gameinformer.....it sounds to me like Miyamoto knows we want F Zero but honestly he doesnt really want to make one. He has a "never say never" attitude right now, which means it could happen but not anytime soon If u want my predicton, id say when we get more f zero it will be a 3ds game. Kind of how nintendo used 3ds to give kid icarus another go, they will put f zero on 3ds as an alternative to mariokart 7. Its a safer bet, because the demands and expectations for handhelds are lower than for consoles, and the budget for handheld games is smaller.
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#6 DrTrafalgarLaw
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[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"]

He spelled Mario wrong.

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Looking at the F-Zero sales since GX compared to the sales of the average Mario and Zelda game, can you blame him (or anyone at Nintendo for that matter)?

So in the end, Miyamoto only cares about sales. Why put up the fallacy of actually caring for your fans?
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Yeah i heard this at gameinformer.....it sounds to me like Miyamoto knows we want F Zero but honestly he doesnt really want to make one. He has a "never say never" attitude right now, which means it could happen but not anytime soon If u want my predicton,

id say when we get more f zero it will be a 3ds game. Kind of how nintendo used 3ds to give kid icarus another go, they will put f zero on 3ds as an alternative to mariokart 7. Its a safer bet, because the demands and expectations for handhelds are lower than for consoles, and the budget for handheld games is smaller. ms555

Not surprising, considering he disliked GX (like when a movie actor admits to disliking being in a certain movie, example: Jackie Chan in Rush Hour, City Hunter, and The Protector).

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Yeah i heard this at gameinformer.....it sounds to me like Miyamoto knows we want F Zero but honestly he doesnt really want to make one. He has a "never say never" attitude right now, which means it could happen but not anytime soon If u want my predicton, id say when we get more f zero it will be a 3ds game. Kind of how nintendo used 3ds to give kid icarus another go, they will put f zero on 3ds as an alternative to mariokart 7. Its a safer bet, because the demands and expectations for handhelds are lower than for consoles, and the budget for handheld games is smaller. ms555
i can see this happening too. though that would be a shame.

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#9 PopeReal
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Frankly, they could just remake F-Zero X and I would be happy.

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#10 drinkerofjuice
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People are tired of F-Zero? Can't say the series was ever over-saturated, and people want a new game now more than ever from the looks of it. I think he just doesn't want to make one.
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#11 nintendoboy16
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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"]

He spelled Mario wrong.

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Looking at the F-Zero sales since GX compared to the sales of the average Mario and Zelda game, can you blame him (or anyone at Nintendo for that matter)?

So in the end, Miyamoto only cares about sales. Why put up the fallacy of actually caring for your fans?

Hard to still support something when the "fans" hardly care enough to still support the franchise.
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Says the guy that claims GX was a disappointment. I'm more inclined to believe SEGA outdid anything he could think of, so he rather have F-Zero on hiatus than give it back to them.

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[QUOTE="ms555"]Yeah i heard this at gameinformer.....it sounds to me like Miyamoto knows we want F Zero but honestly he doesnt really want to make one. He has a "never say never" attitude right now, which means it could happen but not anytime soon If u want my predicton,

id say when we get more f zero it will be a 3ds game. Kind of how nintendo used 3ds to give kid icarus another go, they will put f zero on 3ds as an alternative to mariokart 7. Its a safer bet, because the demands and expectations for handhelds are lower than for consoles, and the budget for handheld games is smaller. nintendoboy16

Not surprising, considering he disliked GX (like when a movie actor admits to disliking being in a certain movie, example: Jackie Chan in Rush Hour, City Hunter, and The Protector).

well they could always outsource the game to anoth dev or create a team to develop it(like getting the devs of the defunct sony liverpool).

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#14 ms555
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[QUOTE="ms555"]Yeah i heard this at gameinformer.....it sounds to me like Miyamoto knows we want F Zero but honestly he doesnt really want to make one. He has a "never say never" attitude right now, which means it could happen but not anytime soon If u want my predicton, id say when we get more f zero it will be a 3ds game. Kind of how nintendo used 3ds to give kid icarus another go, they will put f zero on 3ds as an alternative to mariokart 7. Its a safer bet, because the demands and expectations for handhelds are lower than for consoles, and the budget for handheld games is smaller. TheShadowLord07

i can see this happening too. though that would be a shame.

It would certainly be a bit dissapointing, because I bet Fzero could return on wii u in an exciting new way. But im not gonna say it cant be good on 3ds too. The 3ds treated kid icarus' comeback quite well. Give fzero to the Kid icarus/smash bros guy (Sakurai?) and i bet it will be a great game portable or not.
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They should release an HD remake of GX for the U to gauge interest.
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#16 DanteSuikoden
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Still bitter that Sega made a better F-Zero than he ever could:P

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#17 Epak_
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F-zero for the 3DS would kick so much ASS!

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#18 nintendoboy16
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Frankly, they could just remake F-Zero X and I would be happy.

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They may just pull that... for 3DS (Ocarina of Time and Star Fox 64/Lylat Wars, anyone?).
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Says the guy that claims GX was a disappointment. I'm more inclined to believe SEGA outdid anything he could think of, so he rather have F-Zero on hiatus than give it back to them.

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Sales wise, it was.

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[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]

Says the guy that claims GX was a disappointment. I'm more inclined to believe SEGA outdid anything he could think of, so he rather have F-Zero on hiatus than give it back to them.

nintendoboy16

Sales wise, it was.

wasn't gamecube's sales a dissapointment too? I don't think they can base a whole lot of judgement on a console that really didn't do all that well to begin with.
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[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]

Says the guy that claims GX was a disappointment. I'm more inclined to believe SEGA outdid anything he could think of, so he rather have F-Zero on hiatus than give it back to them.

nintendoboy16

Sales wise, it was.

When has F-Zero ever sold well? It's a niche series, and I don't see that ever changing. I just want a hardcore futuristic racer on a console or handheld, and it's been around a decade since the last F-Zero came out.

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#22 nintendoboy16
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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]

Says the guy that claims GX was a disappointment. I'm more inclined to believe SEGA outdid anything he could think of, so he rather have F-Zero on hiatus than give it back to them.

savagetwinkie

Sales wise, it was.

wasn't gamecube's sales a dissapointment too? I don't think they can base a whole lot of judgement on a console that really didn't do all that well to begin with.

GC's disappointing sales doesn't matter that much when Nintendo's other first-party series STILL sold well. Super Mario Sunshine, Super Smash Bros. Melee, The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker, Metroid Prime, Pikmin and Pokemon Colosseum.
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want better graphics and a 3D f-Zero on handheld. 3D f-Zero on handhled. Not done before/ thread

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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]

Says the guy that claims GX was a disappointment. I'm more inclined to believe SEGA outdid anything he could think of, so he rather have F-Zero on hiatus than give it back to them.

Renegade_Fury

Sales wise, it was.

When has F-Zero ever sold well? It's a niche series, and I don't see that ever changing. I just want a hardcore futuristic racer on a console or handheld, and it's been around a decade since the last F-Zero came out.

F-Zero on the SNES sold AT LEAST a million.

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I understand his reasoning behind this to be honest. Let's be frank, if GX was made again, it wouldn't sell. The game's difficulty would be a problem, and Nintendo would probably want to make this game accessible to everyone at the least. I think he also is a bit right on it needing something different and new, it has to also be something that will catch the eye of the next generation of gamers out there, not the ones who have fond memories of the SNES days playing their F-Zero games. I frankly would just want online features that make this game competitive to play with others, but I also want the crazy track designs like it is known for and fast paced racing at 60 FPS. I don't want it to have items and be a battle type of racer like WipeOut or Mario Kart, but yet to keep it fresh and different, I would say they need something to "hook" in new gamers. Maybe adding items wouldn't be a bad idea for the game, but I can't say I want it either.
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#26 Renegade_Fury
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[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]Sales wise, it was.

nintendoboy16

When has F-Zero ever sold well? It's a niche series, and I don't see that ever changing. I just want a hardcore futuristic racer on a console or handheld, and it's been around a decade since the last F-Zero came out.

F-Zero on the SNES sold AT LEAST a million.

I knew you were going to go there. I bet it did, but what about the 5 or so that came out in the following 14 years? So again, I stand by that it's a niche series. The masses are never going to go for a tough as nails racer, so if he wants Mario like sales, then he'll have to dumb it down to the point where it's not F-Zero anymore. I don't see what's so hard about giving it to outside parties and developing at least a handheld game every 4 or 5 years.

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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]

When has F-Zero ever sold well? It's a niche series, and I don't see that ever changing. I just want a hardcore futuristic racer on a console or handheld, and it's been around a decade since the last F-Zero came out.

Renegade_Fury

F-Zero on the SNES sold AT LEAST a million.

I knew you were going to go there. I bet it did, but what about the 5 or so that came out in the following 14 years? So again, I stand by that it's a niche series. The masses are never going to go for a tough as nails racer, so if he wants Mario like sales, then he'll have to dumb it down to the point where it's not F-Zero anymore. I don't see what's so hard about giving it to outside parties and developing at least a handheld game every 4 or 5 years at the least.

But because studio liverpool closed Nintendo is the only one the ENTIRE niche can turn to for their "tough as nails futuristic racer".

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pft! Best F-Zero game: Smash Bros

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#29 nameless12345
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Yea, GX sold like crap, we know that.

It's a shame "the sheep" ignored it...

Why I'd like a new one?

Well, I'd like to experience it in glorious HD, with online play and a track editor.

A remake of F-Zero X for the 3DS would probably also do well enough, considering Star Fox 64 3D did.

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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]

When has F-Zero ever sold well? It's a niche series, and I don't see that ever changing. I just want a hardcore futuristic racer on a console or handheld, and it's been around a decade since the last F-Zero came out.

Renegade_Fury

F-Zero on the SNES sold AT LEAST a million.

I knew you were going to go there. I bet it did, but what about the 5 or so that came out in the following 14 years? So again, I stand by that it's a niche series. The masses are never going to go for a tough as nails racer, so if he wants Mario like sales, then he'll have to dumb it down to the point where it's not F-Zero anymore. I don't see what's so hard about giving it to outside parties and developing at least a handheld game every 4 or 5 years.

Doesn't that say something that after the first game, the sales and popularity went down faster than Nintendo's own waning reputation itself? It's not like Fire Emblem where it never sells a million, but games still get made anyway.

You say you don't see what's so hard with outsourcing F-Zero to other developers, and acknowledge Miyamoto's disappointment with GX?

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The games in the series hasn't even been released all that often so I'm not sure what the problem is. I'd be happy with new stages, 12 or 16 player online mode, more custom machine parts to build my own machine with, another story mode as difficult as GX, and a technically well developed....
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#32 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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Just give SEGA F-Zero again.
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#33 nameless12345
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Just give SEGA F-Zero again.siLVURcross

And watch it bomb in sales...

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#34 Nanomage
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[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]Just give SEGA F-Zero again.nameless12345

And watch it bomb in sales...

That has hardly anything to do with it,sega made the best F-Zero game out there,if people didn´t bought it then that isn´t sega´s problem,maybe nintendo should´ve advertised it more.

lol trying to put the blame on sega.

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Just give SEGA F-Zero again.siLVURcross
Pretty much,they made the best f-zero after all.
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[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]F-Zero on the SNES sold AT LEAST a million.

nintendoboy16

I knew you were going to go there. I bet it did, but what about the 5 or so that came out in the following 14 years? So again, I stand by that it's a niche series. The masses are never going to go for a tough as nails racer, so if he wants Mario like sales, then he'll have to dumb it down to the point where it's not F-Zero anymore. I don't see what's so hard about giving it to outside parties and developing at least a handheld game every 4 or 5 years.

Doesn't that say something that after the first game, the sales and popularity went down faster than Nintendo's own waning reputation itself? It's not like Fire Emblem where it never sells a million, but games still get made anyway.

You say you don't see what's so hard with outsourcing F-Zero to other developers, and acknowledge Miyamoto's disappointment with GX?

To me it all it says was that people were intially blown away with Mode 7, but once they got over it, they didn't want to stick around for the actual substance. It's a hard game, and being a futuristic racer no less, I don't think it's possible for it to ever sell. So Miyamoto saying he's disappointed, really tells me nothing, because critically, F-Zero GX was received as a fantastic game. So yeah, I don't see what's so hard about outsourcing the series and making a cent here and there every few years.

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[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]

Says the guy that claims GX was a disappointment. I'm more inclined to believe SEGA outdid anything he could think of, so he rather have F-Zero on hiatus than give it back to them.

nintendoboy16

Sales wise, it was.

That upsets me because F-Zero GX is my favourite racing game ever created.

Oh well, we got it on Nintendo Land! Yay..

It'd be nice if they just made it on 3DS, or even remade F-Zero X on 3DS, I don't really care I just want a new F-Zero - if it's sales he wants, why not just advertise the **** out of it?

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#38 nintendoboy16
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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]

Says the guy that claims GX was a disappointment. I'm more inclined to believe SEGA outdid anything he could think of, so he rather have F-Zero on hiatus than give it back to them.

NirdBerd

Sales wise, it was.

That upsets me because F-Zero GX is my favourite racing game ever created.

Oh well, we got it on Nintendo Land! Yay..

It'd be nice if they just made it on 3DS, or even remade F-Zero X on 3DS, I don't really care I just want a new F-Zero - if it's sales he wants, why not just advertise the **** out of it?

Also, Captain Falcon's outfit in Namco's Tekken Tag Tournament 2

As well as his more than likely chance of appearing in Super Smash Bros. 4

You know franchises lie F-Zero, Metroid, and Star Fox are in trouble when the best thing Nintendo can do with them is reference them in other games.

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#39 NirdBerd
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[QUOTE="NirdBerd"]

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]Sales wise, it was.

nintendoboy16

That upsets me because F-Zero GX is my favourite racing game ever created.

Oh well, we got it on Nintendo Land! Yay..

It'd be nice if they just made it on 3DS, or even remade F-Zero X on 3DS, I don't really care I just want a new F-Zero - if it's sales he wants, why not just advertise the **** out of it?

Also, Captain Falcon's outfit in Namco's Tekken Tag Tournament 2

As well as his more than likely chance of appearing in Super Smash Bros. 4

You know franchises lie F-Zero, Metroid, and Star Fox are in trouble when the best thing Nintendo can do with them is reference them in other games.

Man they seriously need to bring back those series....

It's also sad that Miyamato had to say 'buy Star Fox 64 3D or I will kill this series'

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#40 BrunoBRS
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silly miyamoto, people want a new F-zero because it's the fastest racing game ever, with excellent, creative track design, kick-ass soundtrack and responsive controls. all of these are more than you can say about any other racing game.
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[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]Just give SEGA F-Zero again.MrYaotubo
Pretty much,they made the best f-zero after all.

I liked GX I just wish it had a similar soundtrack to F-Zero and F-Zero X I liked that music better then the music in GX.

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#42 DarkLink77
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They should release an HD remake of GX for the U to gauge interest.Zeviander
Would buy.
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#43 dobzilian
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Well i was more interested in the "smile" when talking about Metroid saying "iMetroid

- with a huge smile, said that it could become a more beautiful action game"

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#44 Cherokee_Jack
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Metroid

- with a huge smile, said that it could become a more beautiful action gamesource

Eeeeuuurgh.

I hope that's a bad translation.

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#45 FireEmblem_Man
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Maybe the game can evolve into an Online Multiplayer galore fest? I would love to play against 29 other racers across the globe, it's also perfect for Miiverse.

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#46 caryslan2
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silly miyamoto, people want a new F-zero because it's the fastest racing game ever, with excellent, creative track design, kick-ass soundtrack and responsive controls. all of these are more than you can say about any other racing game.BrunoBRS

About the closest series to F-Zero in terms of gameplay or overall design is Wipeout. Which means there are pretty much two futuristic racers on the market, and one of them(F-Zero) has not even seen a game in years.

Which pretty much leaves Wipeout as the only racer of this type that's on the market.

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#47 locopatho
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That makes sense, a Wii version wouldn't have any improvements over GX really. Friend codes and bad motion controls in F Zero? No thanks. A new one on WiiU makes sense though, get the HD graphics, online modes, and add in a track editor if ye want to be really nice :)
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#48 Cherokee_Jack
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]silly miyamoto, people want a new F-zero because it's the fastest racing game ever, with excellent, creative track design, kick-ass soundtrack and responsive controls. all of these are more than you can say about any other racing game.caryslan2

About the closest series to F-Zero in terms of gameplay or overall design is Wipeout. Which means there are pretty much two futuristic racers on the market, and one of them(F-Zero) has not even seen a game in years.

Which pretty much leaves Wipeout as the only racer of this type that's on the market.

Soon to not be on the market, considering Studio Liverpool's closure.
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#49 nintendoboy16
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[QUOTE="caryslan2"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]silly miyamoto, people want a new F-zero because it's the fastest racing game ever, with excellent, creative track design, kick-ass soundtrack and responsive controls. all of these are more than you can say about any other racing game.Cherokee_Jack

About the closest series to F-Zero in terms of gameplay or overall design is Wipeout. Which means there are pretty much two futuristic racers on the market, and one of them(F-Zero) has not even seen a game in years.

Which pretty much leaves Wipeout as the only racer of this type that's on the market.

Soon to not be on the market, considering Studio Liverpool's closure.

Thus, killing the futuristic racer. Which makes it more sad because Wipeout was FAR more popular than F-Zero ever was.
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#50 lamprey263
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I'm not an F-Zero fan, don't dislike it just never played anythingn F-Zero related. However, I think Nintendo should reconsider, if they dive right into the same redundant franchises we get with every Nintendo system I don't think people are going to be as attracted by that. Bringing back something like F-Zero might just serve a purpose of giving us something fresh, something to feel Nintendo is trying rather than just getting an updated Mario Kart that makes us feel like Nintendo is just doing a generational milking of their franchises. Also, I think what brings people back to Nintendo is some level of nostalgia, F-Zero has a lot of potential there.