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#1 -Sir-Poof-
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The first couple of pics are new I gave up cause this cam is garbage for taking these kinds of pics....

HD 720p Ben Gordon

http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/7209/dcp3026qk8.jpg

SD Ben Gordon

http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/3004/dcp3027wk3.jpg

HD 720p NG

http://img470.imageshack.us/img470/3159/dcp3040fe6.jpg

SD NG

http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/6073/dcp3034bo5.jpg

SD Boxer in Corner

http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/9360/sdtvfnr3hg9.jpg

HD 720p Boxer in Corner

http://img467.imageshack.us/img467/9255/hdtvfnr3uy7.jpg

I have Motorstorm and NBA 2K7 theres a huge difference in NBA 2K7 but its hard to tell with screenshots, I have a couple of demos, NGS, GTHD, VT3, Def Jam, Resistance...ill take pics and post later.

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#2 -Sir-Poof-
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I think the last two pics show a huge difference....Ill try my best and add some great examples like that one.

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#3 Led_poison
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Ok umm suggestion, try labeling it so we know whats what
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#4 Vyse_The_Daring
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Ok umm suggestion, try labeling it so we know whats whatLed_poison

It says it in the link.  

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#5 Japanese_Monk
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Haha remember when sheep would say its no point in getting a 360 w/o a HDTV cause the graphics would look the same....lol.
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#6 Hir0_N
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Ok the point?
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#7 SergeantSnitch
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Try resizing those pics.  Actually, this topic isn't that great.  Your camera can't take pictures of your TV well.
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#8 -Sir-Poof-
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Ok the point?Hir0_N

The poiint? that I was bored enough to do this and that HD ROCKS!!

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#9 XboxUnderground
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your pics are atrocious
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#10 Mozilla2006
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Lol i didnt even bother click the link when i saw ur romo avatar, lol budder fingers.
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#11 LINKloco
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Haha remember when sheep would say its no point in getting a 360 w/o a HDTV cause the graphics would look the same....lol. Japanese_Monk
That doesn't make sense.
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[QUOTE="Japanese_Monk"]Haha remember when sheep would say its no point in getting a 360 w/o a HDTV cause the graphics would look the same....lol. LINKloco
That doesn't make sense.

 

sheep said that Wii would look just as good as 360 in SD 

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Lol i didnt even bother click the link when i saw ur romo avatar, lol budder fingers.Mozilla2006

budder? the sad thing about that is the D isnt even close to the T.

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#15 Mozilla2006
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[QUOTE="Mozilla2006"]Lol i didnt even bother click the link when i saw ur romo avatar, lol budder fingers.-Sir-Poof-

budder? the sad thing about that is the D isnt even close to the T.

Lol i spelled it that way cuz i wanted to, doesnt change the fact then romo chocked big time.

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#16 T3h1337Pwnz
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at least the sheep have the most intuative console with the best game selection and capabilities
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#17 -Sir-Poof-
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[QUOTE="-Sir-Poof-"]

[QUOTE="Mozilla2006"]Lol i didnt even bother click the link when i saw ur romo avatar, lol budder fingers.Mozilla2006

budder? the sad thing about that is the D isnt even close to the T.

Lol i spelled it that way cuz i wanted to, doesnt change the fact then romo chocked big time.

o so ur a cool guy :P but I know I know :cry: Romo screwed up big time.

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#18 karicha9
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Does that difference really warrant an HDTV purchase?  I really don't think so.
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#19 TheOneMan
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[QUOTE="LINKloco"][QUOTE="Japanese_Monk"]Haha remember when sheep would say its no point in getting a 360 w/o a HDTV cause the graphics would look the same....lol. XboxUnderground

That doesn't make sense.

 

sheep said that Wii would look just as good as 360 in SD

link plz.
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#20 -Sir-Poof-
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Does that difference really warrant an HDTV purchase?  I really don't think so.karicha9

My pics suck seriously u need to see it in motion.

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#21 LINKloco
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[QUOTE="LINKloco"][QUOTE="Japanese_Monk"]Haha remember when sheep would say its no point in getting a 360 w/o a HDTV cause the graphics would look the same....lol. XboxUnderground

That doesn't make sense.

 

sheep said that Wii would look just as good as 360 in SD 

Theres no point in getting a 360 without an HDTV doesn't make that point. Still doesn't make sense.
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#22 T3h1337Pwnz
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[QUOTE="XboxUnderground"]

[QUOTE="LINKloco"][QUOTE="Japanese_Monk"]Haha remember when sheep would say its no point in getting a 360 w/o a HDTV cause the graphics would look the same....lol. LINKloco

That doesn't make sense.

 

sheep said that Wii would look just as good as 360 in SD

Theres no point in getting a 360 without an HDTV doesn't make that point. Still doesn't make sense.

its ok, lemmings and hermits are almost totally illeterate  

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[QUOTE="karicha9"]Does that difference really warrant an HDTV purchase? I really don't think so.-Sir-Poof-

My pics suck seriously u need to see it in motion.

I don't seriously think that would do anything, either. I just got an HDTV, wondering how much of a difference HD would make, anticipating something big because people rant and rave about it.

So I got to see the Lakers get owned in HD, but it really wasn't that much of a difference. Digital has a huse impact over analog signals, but the difference between digital 480i to digital 720p isn't really that great.

Especially with less than a 50" TV, I couldn't recommend someone to purchase an HDTV just to see things in HD.

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#24 -Sir-Poof-
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[QUOTE="-Sir-Poof-"]

[QUOTE="karicha9"]Does that difference really warrant an HDTV purchase? I really don't think so.karicha9

My pics suck seriously u need to see it in motion.

I don't seriously think that would do anything, either. I just got an HDTV, wondering how much of a difference HD would make, anticipating something big because people rant and rave about it.

So I got to see the Lakers get owned in HD, but it really wasn't that much of a difference. Digital has a huse impact over analog signals, but the difference between digital 480i to digital 720p isn't really that great.

Especially with less than a 50" TV, I couldn't recommend someone to purchase an HDTV just to see things in HD.

Really I remember the first time I watched Dallas play in HD and I was amazed.

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#25 XboxUnderground
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[QUOTE="-Sir-Poof-"]

[QUOTE="karicha9"]Does that difference really warrant an HDTV purchase? I really don't think so.karicha9

My pics suck seriously u need to see it in motion.

I don't seriously think that would do anything, either. I just got an HDTV, wondering how much of a difference HD would make, anticipating something big because people rant and rave about it.

So I got to see the Lakers get owned in HD, but it really wasn't that much of a difference. Digital has a huse impact over analog signals, but the difference between digital 480i to digital 720p isn't really that great.

Especially with less than a 50" TV, I couldn't recommend someone to purchase an HDTV just to see things in HD.

 

are you joking?


I can't tell

 

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More pics will be added using different games but man its hard to get nice screen shots to show the difference....

HD 720p Player Menu

http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/785/hdtvfnr3playerjn8.jpg

SD Player Menu

http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/7095/sdtvfnr3playerfw5.jpg

SD Player in Corner

http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/9360/sdtvfnr3hg9.jpg

HD 720p Player in Corner

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/4341/hdtvfnr3cm1.jpg

I have Motorstorm and NBA 2K7 theres a huge difference in NBA 2K7 but its hard to tell with screenshots, I have a couple of demos, NGS, GTHD, VT3, Def Jam, Resistance...ill take pics and post later.

-Sir-Poof-

So basically you're saying that the real cost of the 360 is $499.99 plus a $1000 (at the very least) tv?  Just another reason to wait a couple more years before I even consider a current gen console. 

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#27 XboxUnderground
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[QUOTE="-Sir-Poof-"]

More pics will be added using different games but man its hard to get nice screen shots to show the difference....

HD 720p Player Menu

http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/785/hdtvfnr3playerjn8.jpg

SD Player Menu

http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/7095/sdtvfnr3playerfw5.jpg

SD Player in Corner

http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/9360/sdtvfnr3hg9.jpg

HD 720p Player in Corner

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/4341/hdtvfnr3cm1.jpg

I have Motorstorm and NBA 2K7 theres a huge difference in NBA 2K7 but its hard to tell with screenshots, I have a couple of demos, NGS, GTHD, VT3, Def Jam, Resistance...ill take pics and post later.

Laserwolf65

So basically you're saying that the real cost of the 360 is $499.99 plus a $1000 (at the very least) tv? Just another reason to wait a couple more years before I even consider a current gen console.

 

no

 

360 games still look excellent in SD 

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#28 karicha9
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Really I remember the first time I watched Dallas play in HD and I was amazed.

-Sir-Poof-

People seem to be easily amazed.  I lived with bunny ears most of my life until just recently when I installed an antenna that receives HD signals.

It doesn't really live up to the hype for me. 

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at least the sheep have the most intuative console with the best game selection and capabilitiesT3h1337Pwnz

You forgot to put "/sarcasm" at the end of your sentence. 

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#30 Pro_wrestler
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[QUOTE="-Sir-Poof-"]

[QUOTE="karicha9"]Does that difference really warrant an HDTV purchase? I really don't think so.karicha9

My pics suck seriously u need to see it in motion.

I don't seriously think that would do anything, either. I just got an HDTV, wondering how much of a difference HD would make, anticipating something big because people rant and rave about it.

So I got to see the Lakers get owned in HD, but it really wasn't that much of a difference. Digital has a huse impact over analog signals, but the difference between digital 480i to digital 720p isn't really that great.

Especially with less than a 50" TV, I couldn't recommend someone to purchase an HDTV just to see things in HD.

On SD setups you miss major ammounts of detail that is why you see alot of black levels, not to mention text is a pain to watch on SD screens. 

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#31 22Toothpicks
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[QUOTE="-Sir-Poof-"]

Really I remember the first time I watched Dallas play in HD and I was amazed.

karicha9

People seem to be easily amazed.  I lived with bunny ears most of my life until just recently when I installed an antenna that receives HD signals.

It doesn't really live up to the hype for me. 



Dude. over the air HD is pure anus.  Trust me, it looks great. 
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#32 karicha9
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Dude. over the air HD is pure anus. Trust me, it looks great. 22Toothpicks
It's free.

And I'm talking real OTA HD.  Programming that is meant to be HD, like sports games have been recently.  I'm not trying to compare programs broadcast digitally in 480i on an "HDTV" station.

I didn't see a great difference at electronics stores, either, at any rate.

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#33 22Toothpicks
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[QUOTE="22Toothpicks"]

Dude. over the air HD is pure anus. Trust me, it looks great. karicha9

It's free.

And I'm talking real OTA HD.  Programming that is meant to be HD, like sports games have been recently.  I'm not trying to compare programs broadcast digitally in 480i on an "HDTV" station.

I didn't see a great difference at electronics stores, either, at any rate.



ATSC and/or QUAM over-the-air are just painful to look at in camporison to say Dish Networks offerings.
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[QUOTE="LINKloco"][QUOTE="Japanese_Monk"]Haha remember when sheep would say its no point in getting a 360 w/o a HDTV cause the graphics would look the same....lol. XboxUnderground

That doesn't make sense.

Does the 360 look any good in SD compared to HD? Nope.

Just look at the textures and AA. 480 is just a poor resolution, and yet... it's still used by 75% of the population, probably more if you factor in secondary TVs. 

 

sheep said that Wii would look just as good as 360 in SD

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#35 karicha9
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ATSC and/or QUAM over-the-air are just painful to look at in camporison to say Dish Networks offerings.22Toothpicks
Isn't satellite HD compressed via MPEG2/4, resulting in various picture artifacts?

OTA is uncompressed as I recall.

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#36 El_Fanboy
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When there is a 56k warning, it usually means there are you know, pictures.
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#37 -Sora
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if i got a moniter for my 360 instead of a HDTV would it look as good?
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#38 jbrittain
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Those pictures are horrible.  That camera just does not take good pictures at all.  But yeah, HD looks amazingly better than SDTV, no doubt.
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#39 -Sir-Poof-
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Those pictures are horrible.  That camera just does not take good pictures at all.  But yeah, HD looks amazingly better than SDTV, no doubt.jbrittain

Yea I know these pics are crap, what a waste of freakin time.

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[QUOTE="XboxUnderground"]

[QUOTE="LINKloco"][QUOTE="Japanese_Monk"]Haha remember when sheep would say its no point in getting a 360 w/o a HDTV cause the graphics would look the same....lol. Kalel559

That doesn't make sense.

Does the 360 look any good in SD compared to HD? Nope.

Just look at the textures and AA. 480 is just a poor resolution, and yet... it's still used by 75% of the population, probably more if you factor in secondary TVs.

 

sheep said that Wii would look just as good as 360 in SD

 

360 looks superb in SD fool

 

at least 50x better than Wii 

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if i got a moniter for my 360 instead of a HDTV would it look as good?-Sora

 

here's some pics off of a computer monitor

 

















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[QUOTE="LINKloco"][QUOTE="Japanese_Monk"]Haha remember when sheep would say its no point in getting a 360 w/o a HDTV cause the graphics would look the same....lol. XboxUnderground

That doesn't make sense.

Does the 360 look any good in SD compared to HD? Nope.

Just look at the textures and AA. 480 is just a poor resolution, and yet... it's still used by 75% of the population, probably more if you factor in secondary TVs. 

 

sheep said that Wii would look just as good as 360 in SD

Don't need a break down of different resolutions. Go back and read the guy's post carefully. Again, it doesn't make sense what he wrote.
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#43 AgentVX
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What a bunch of dumb responses.

Of course HDTV looks not only better, but noticeably better in every aspect.  The only downside of most (all) HD monitors, is that the contrast ratio are lower compared to CRT screens.  Besides that, there is no comparision.

If you can't tell the difference, quit buying cheap walmart HDTV's.

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#44 goblaa
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Ok? And? So those pics tell me that HD looks slightly better than SD. Great. Now I can go out and drop $1000. :roll:

SD $300

HD $1000+

 

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what kind of screen do you have?????
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[QUOTE="XboxUnderground"]

[QUOTE="LINKloco"][QUOTE="Japanese_Monk"]Haha remember when sheep would say its no point in getting a 360 w/o a HDTV cause the graphics would look the same....lol. LINKloco

That doesn't make sense.

Does the 360 look any good in SD compared to HD? Nope.

Just look at the textures and AA. 480 is just a poor resolution, and yet... it's still used by 75% of the population, probably more if you factor in secondary TVs.

 

sheep said that Wii would look just as good as 360 in SD

Don't need a break down of different resolutions. Go back and read the guy's post carefully. Again, it doesn't make sense what he wrote.

 

it makes complete sense :|

Sheep/Nintendo claimed there would be no difference in graphics between Wii and 360 in SD

 

 

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Ok? And? So those pics tell me that HD looks slightly better than SD. Great. Now I can go out and drop $1000. :roll:

SD $300

HD $1000+

goblaa

 

and then there's REAL hd

  

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#48 goblaa
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[QUOTE="goblaa"]

Ok? And? So those pics tell me that HD looks slightly better than SD. Great. Now I can go out and drop $1000. :roll:

SD $300

 

HD $1000+

 

XboxUnderground

 

and then there's REAL hd

 

It's pretty, but still not worth the price. Not even close. 

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at least the sheep have the most intuative console with the best game selection and capabilitiesT3h1337Pwnz

:lol::lol:.....:|No

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[QUOTE="XboxUnderground"][QUOTE="goblaa"]

Ok? And? So those pics tell me that HD looks slightly better than SD. Great. Now I can go out and drop $1000. :roll:

SD $300

 

HD $1000+

 

goblaa

 

and then there's REAL hd

 

It's pretty, but still not worth the price. Not even close.

you've gotta be kidding me

 

 

 

 

I can't even view SD content anymore

I don't watch anything on TV that's not HD

I put all my DVDs in a corner to make room for my BD/HDDVD library

 

SD is just disgusting after you've seen what HD is like