Played another hour of Ryse on PC tonight and I actually went back and replayed a level because of how good it looked. It's taxing, too. Possibly the most demanding PC game that is currently available. CryEngine is no joke. The scalability of that engine is going to be very interesting as more PC games are made with it and PC hardware gets more powerful over the next few years. What sucks though is that the cutscenes are pre-rendered 1600x900 and look like garbage compared to the in-engine gameplay...I hate when developers do this.
I know it's an on-rails game with little freedom outside of the small arenas connected by narrow pathways, but man it looks good.
@scottpsfan14: Don't forget the importance of higher quality antialiasing and anisotropic filtering on top of frame rate and resolution. Plus, higher resolution shadows, far less aggressive LOD management (things look better farther away). and higher quality and more subtle reflections. I know what you were trying to say in that it's "Just a higher resolution and frame rate port" but that is a bit too reductive when considering all of the differences between the console and PC version. It's a lot of little things, but a lot of little things can add up to quite a difference.
The quality of the motion blur in Ryse is excellent, too. I am normally a 60 fps minimum type of person, but I cranked the settings up even higher with 3x Supersampling and locked the game at 30, and it still looks and plays great. I preferred 60 so I dropped it back down, but it's nice to be able to make it look a little better at the expense of higher frame rate if one chooses.
Yes FreedomTroll, Ryse the PC version (which are the pics you are posting) looks better than anything on PS4 and X1 (becuz you arent posting the X1 version)
Ryse looks very good, the individual assets are highly detailed as they usually are when a game focuses linear gameplay and small environments. But it's not hard to see the point made by some here that Infamous SS is equally impressive since it's open world.
Pretty much, The Order and UC4 would really be the next level, especially UC4.
The Order will >>>> UC4 graphically. It's 30fps and 1920x800. They can fit more graphics in that than 1080p 60fps what UC4 is going to be.
Nail on head with what is wrong with this generations consoles. They should not be compromising anything to get 1080p and 60fps minimum this gen.
Seriously...or at the very least, not compromise in order to get 1080p and 30 fps. Evil Within on PS4 can't even maintain 30 fps with it's extra-cinematic black bars.
Also, guys - If a game has 400 lines or vertical resolution that are black bars, that game is not 1080p. So just stop. By that definition, an entire black screen with a 40x40 rendered area in the middle would also be "1080p", so don't start getting ridiculous trying to make your favorite console seem more powerful than it actually is.
Don't even get me started on The Order's or The Evil Within's "cinematic" presentation. 16:9 widescreen displays are already "cinematic" enough, thank you very much. It's a trick to save on rendering resources and nothing more, don't pretend it's some artistic choice when these games aren't even hitting 30 fps. If the games did display in true 1080p 16:9, they wouldn't have a hope of looking like they do and hitting 30 fps.
@scottpsfan14: Don't forget the importance of higher quality antialiasing and anisotropic filtering on top of frame rate and resolution. Plus, higher resolution shadows, far less aggressive LOD management (things look better farther away). and higher quality and more subtle reflections. I know what you were trying to say in that it's "Just a higher resolution and frame rate port" but that is a bit too reductive when considering all of the differences between the console and PC version. It's a lot of little things, but a lot of little things can add up to quite a difference.
The quality of the motion blur in Ryse is excellent, too. I am normally a 60 fps minimum type of person, but I cranked the settings up even higher with 3x Supersampling and locked the game at 30, and it still looks and plays great. I preferred 60 so I dropped it back down, but it's nice to be able to make it look a little better at the expense of higher frame rate if one chooses.
It has all the perks of being on PC basically. That's why I like PC, choice. The actual core assets are identicle but the PC version has things like better draw distance for everything including shadows, objects, and textures. Higher resolution in general, better framerate, and better AA. They do make a big difference of course. But these are the minimum advantages you get with all PC versions of a game. It's kind of a given.
This is why my preferred platform for all multiplats is PC. Freedom of choice; You can tweak the games setting how you want to, use any controller you prefer. Increase the image quality in different ways through downsampling, modding, Sweet FX or tweaking a config file...
And these games you buy right now scale with advances in hardware. Of course the assets stay the same, but you'll be able to play them in 4k or even 8k in a few years, and when you decide to play them again you can do so with glorious image quality without being forced to buy a remastered game.
That's the benefit of a constantly evolving platform like PC.
@sts106mat: lol you really have no clue what your talking about. You can bitch about character model quality all you want in infamous SS. Fact is Delsin has more polygons in his head then An entire character model in TLOU. It's FOV also isn't restricted to being above a guys waiste with linear environments. It cracks me up because Ryse simply isn't as impressive as Infamous SS. The texture detail on Infamous stays crisp while a character in Ryse steps 20 feet away and the armor starts to blur Lmao.
@sts106mat: Except Talions character model isn't close to delsin. Have you played Infamous SS? The character models look amazing especially when you can pan the camera up close. He'll put it in photomode and you can see the details. Certain parts of the game allow you to pan the camera closer as well.
You are ripping the char models because you don't like FOV.
@sts106mat: You can't show me one credible source saying Ryse looks better either. There all opinions and there have been plenty of gamers who think Infamous SS looks better. You lose all credability when you say SoM and TLOU have better char models when it is a technical fact infamous character models push about twice the polys.
We can all have are opinions but there are facts. Like higher poly models are usually more detailed.
@sts106mat: lol stop crying? Please troll let's not be stupid. You didn't say they have better models but they look better? Lmao really? Is there a difference?
And both those videos you mentioned came out about 5 months before infamous SS released so how is that relevant?
@sts106mat: It's the best looking game on X1 that doesn't mean it's the best looking game period. Especially on X1 at 900p and sub 30fps dipshit. If they think the PC version at 4k looks the best then good for them.
I own both to dumbass , I actually own every game you mentioned. Buh buh I can't see the texture on Delsins model. Then get some fucking glasses. I can see the threads in his Beanie for **** sakes. Nobody wants to read your blind fanboy bullshit you blind prick.
@sts106mat: I personally think Iss is king , KZ and Ryse would make up my top 3, followed by TR:DE and Metro LL of the Metro redux. I may check out AI but there's alot of games right now. Just finished SoM and was thinking about getting The Evil Within.
I like most of the Xbox exclusives, but this game was just another example of how graphics aren't everything. Dead Rising 3 was a far better launch game with so-so graphics.
1) Graphics quality is totally subjective, and...
2) Ryse's gameplay sucks. This is my own opinion as someone who beat it twice (once on Normal and again on Hard during the launch drought.)
That is basically my stance on it too. PC is the best platform by far no matter how much cows and lems argue against it. It just does everything consoles do + 1000 times more, and it does it far better at that. I get accused as being a cow or a Sony shill by some on this site, but while I generally like PlayStation games better than others (not this gen so far), I still would rather have a multiplat on PC any day. Even if it got no graphical enhancements, because of the reasons I described in the above post.
It really pisses me off when a game like DriveClub has all that detail and is lacking the core fundamentals such as good AA and AF. Basically horrible IQ. I could just imagine what it would look like on a PC, downsampled at 1440p 60fps with 16xAF. But as always, console devs push the graphics to the upper limit on consoles while sacrificing at least something substantial like LOD pop in, IQ and the like.
The fact is, if Sony went under and their first party PS3 and PS4 games were released on PC, I'd be happy for sure. Imagine Infamous SS with no horrible pop in and downsampling running at 60fps. DriveClub, Killzone, The Order all with the same perks. I'd dare bet those games would be the best looking PC games. Notice when ever somebody on here criticizes console graphics, they always mention either IQ, draw distance and pop in. All which PC could fix up in a heart beat. Because lets face it, these next gen games have amazing graphical content alone.
That's definitely true and without them there wouldn't be a jump in graphics that we have now. Most games finally have decent textures in almost everywhere for example and the push for PBR is a welcome gift to PC players as well.
I wish Nintendo games were available on PC too. Can you imagine Mario Kart 8 in 4k / 60 fps? It would look incredible. I can't help but notice the low resolution, jaggies and the very poor texture filtering on the Wii U version. It would truly shine with better IQ
Yeah, PBR is the biggest enhancement to lighting and textures since the release of the 360. It seems every gen there is a new rendering technique that not even PC's in between introduced. Not because of being incapable, but because the game industry budget revolves around consoles. Something like PBR is a fundamental shift in game design. It's not just an effect you can toggle on and off in a game. The game art is created around the physically based materials and lighting model. So it's there even in low settings on Ryse for instance.
As for Mario Kart 8 in 4k, expect Dolphin emulator to emulate the Wii U sooner than you might think since the WiiU is the same arch as the Wii. But I would love to see it happen for sure. But tbh, Sonic Racing Transformed on PC is as graphically lush and it can be run at 4K too.
Yeah, the Wii =/= WiiU. There is a massive jump in visuals between the two. Like PS2 to PS3 jump.
the fact is that screen is from the pc version. try again clown. ryse does not look better than every ps4 game, it looks as good as any ps4 game with the new exception of driveclub.
the fact is that screen is from the pc version. try again clown. ryse does not look better than every ps4 game, it looks as good as any ps4 game with the new exception of driveclub.
hahaha fanboys keeps lying and ignoring facts.
not a single ps4 looks better than ryse. i already proved this with pictures but you keep ignoring. you lost forever.
Man, not so sure about Ryse's textures...they're pretty damn blurry and you don't even have to be close to them in first person to easily notice it (reference above forest shots). That log in that 2nd shot might as well be out of an Xbox 1 title. Compared to Crysis 3 in particular (year old title), the game just doesn't look that good. Pay attention to anything that isn't the player character model and you'll notice everything is blurry, low resolution, and obscured by motion blur and lighting.
Middle Earth at least has some consistency in its graphics, the world textures are actually as sharp as the player models, unlike Ryse's environment textures which are often hugely compressed and blurry as all hell.
Man, not so sure about Ryse's textures...they're pretty damn blurry and you don't even have to be close to them in first person to easily notice it (reference above forest shots). That log in that 2nd shot might as well be out of an Xbox 1 title. Compared to Crysis 3 in particular (year old title), the game just doesn't look that good. Pay attention to anything that isn't the player character model and you'll notice everything is blurry, low resolution, and obscured by motion blur and lighting.
Middle Earth at least has some consistency in its graphics, the world textures are actually as sharp as the player models, unlike Ryse's environment textures which are often hugely compressed and blurry as all hell.
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