Rumor - PS4 codenamed Orbis, 2013 release, 4K res, no used games?

[QUOTE="JohnF111"][QUOTE="TyberZannxxxx"]

This is all fake. First of all, Sony has a 10-year lifecycle for its consoles, which means the PS4 most likely be released until 2016. Second of all, 4k TVs are still in development and most likely won't be available until at least 2020. Third of all, Sony can't afford to use cutting-edge hardware so that is it significantly more powerful than its competition. If they tried that right now, the console would cost more than $1,000, preventing almost everyone from buying it. Chances are, the PS4 will be on par with the Wii U and next Xbox.

TyberZannxxxx

And it will be on par with the Wii U.

[QUOTE="TyberZannxxxx"]

[QUOTE="JohnF111"] Wow you're an idiot, so it's absolutely unthinkable that Sony support both PS3 and PS4? 4K projectors are already in stores and available to buy. Sony can use any tech they want but financially it wouldn't be advisable, PS3 only cost so much because Blu ray was the newest drive at the time and the Cell was co-developed by Sony at the cost of half a billion dollars and about 7 years of research, but most likely they will in fact use a mass produced chip from AMD due to their dominance in the APU + GPU performance as we see very small PCs and laptops easily playing games on max with good frame rate and that's the kind of attributes they need for a console. I agree it'll very much be on par with Xbox.JohnF111

And it will be on par with the Wii U.

I don't think the graphics leap from this generation to the next one will be very big from any of the 3 consoles. All we'll probably see is native 1080p and a few new graphics features, but that's it.

I love how its like everybody who isnt a fan of Sony doesnt want to believe that PS4 will be a REAL graphics leap, because all rumors are pointing to Sony being the leader in that reguard. In all my years in gaming, this is the first generation I have ever seen, where fanboys have COMPLAINED and CRIED about getting good graphics. Fanboyism is disgusting.

You "dont want" better hardware, because the company you like the most is on the losing end of that "battle"......PERIOD. So you tell yourselves "Hurpy derp, it'll be $899, or else it'll be on par with the Wii U" NO. Stop dragging everybody else down with yourself. If Nintendo wants to intentionally release a console below industry standards, feel free to buy it, that is nobody else's problem but theirs.

You people act like expecting a true generational leap is some strange unnatural desire, and we are asking so much. How dare we :roll:

I love how its like everybody who isnt a fan of Sony doesnt want to believe that PS4 will be a REAL graphics leap, because all rumors are pointing to Sony being the leader in that reguard. In all my years in gaming, this is the first generation I have ever seen, where fanboys have COMPLAINED and CRIED about getting good graphics. Fanboyism is disgusting.

You "dont want" better hardware, because the company you like the most is on the losing end of that "battle"......PERIOD. So you tell yourselves "Hurpy derp, it'll be $899, or else it'll be on par with the Wii U" NO. Stop dragging everybody else down with yourself. If Nintendo wants to intentionally release a console below industry standards, feel free to buy it, that is nobody else's problem but theirs.

You people act like expecting a true generational leap is some strange unnatural desire, and we are asking so much. How dare we :roll:

StrongDeadlift

[QUOTE="Idontremember"]

So all 3 consoles will have AMD gpus???
Damn... Hope that doesn't kill Nvidia...
The last thing we need is less competition on the PC market.
But AMD cpus suck bad compare to intel.

wis3boi

Mobile phone SoC market is tougher than the PC market e.g. it has larger players such as Qualcomm.

Intel Haswell (40 IEUs, 3X over Ivybridge IGP) and AMD AMD Kaveri (512 GCN SPs @ ~900Mhz**) effectively wipes out NVIDIA's med-range.

Both AMD and Intel has commoditized 64bit DP FP support and will be supporting GPU gather instructions in AVX2. NV's GTX680 doesn't bring commoditization for thier GPU ASIC in the professional and HPC market. Commoditized X86 products are the main driving force in pushing the old school RISC vendors out from the market.

**Rivals Radeon HD 7750.

[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"][QUOTE="godzillavskong"]Still waiting for that invite, or perhaps you would like me to send you a message via the PS3. I could send it at 3am if you'd like, in the comfort of my own home, to prove that it's mine. Although I see you visited my profile to see if I did have the PS3 in my photos. The thumbs down was very funny.Not to mention you failed to respond back, I guess too ashamed to admit you were wrong, and that I indeed do have a PS3.Admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery! Pinaccle = cancer of the gaming community.godzillavskong

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

Long story. Info throught the link.

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super600

Yay!For another exaggeration.

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

I love how its like everybody who isnt a fan of Sony doesnt want to believe that PS4 will be a REAL graphics leap, because all rumors are pointing to Sony being the leader in that reguard. In all my years in gaming, this is the first generation I have ever seen, where fanboys have COMPLAINED and CRIED about getting good graphics. Fanboyism is disgusting.

You "dont want" better hardware, because the company you like the most is on the losing end of that "battle"......PERIOD. So you tell yourselves "Hurpy derp, it'll be $899, or else it'll be on par with the Wii U" NO. Stop dragging everybody else down with yourself. If Nintendo wants to intentionally release a console below industry standards, feel free to buy it, that is nobody else's problem but theirs.

You people act like expecting a true generational leap is some strange unnatural desire, and we are asking so much. How dare we :roll:

Kaze_no_Mirai

I'm not understanding your logic. What would current gen specs have to do with displaying 4k resolution for next gen consoles? I can possibly see it happening on launch titles.

If SONY puts in a high end 7xxx series, along with 4 GB of RAM, 4k resolution WILL be possible. I'm sure that once the gen progresses, games will become far more complex and the games will only run on 1080p. But for the launch titles, I do see games running at 4k or somewhere near that range.

The PS3 has 256 MB of RAM and 256 MB VRAM and runs games at 720p. If you tried running arkham city or any game released last year on a PC with similar specs, your PC would explode. You need around 10x times the amount of RAM PS3 has and 4x times the amount of VRAM on a PC to run the game smoothly.

You think that a card that'll be released later this year + around 15x the ram of this gen's console + console optimization won't be able to run higher than 1080p?

On a PC that might not be feasible due to the bloated OS, but it's doable on a console.

Now this is assuming SONY puts in an AMD 79xx GPU and 4 GB of ram or something that'll equate to this combo's power.

[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"][QUOTE="godzillavskong"]Still waiting for that invite, or perhaps you would like me to send you a message via the PS3. I could send it at 3am if you'd like, in the comfort of my own home, to prove that it's mine. Although I see you visited my profile to see if I did have the PS3 in my photos. The thumbs down was very funny.Not to mention you failed to respond back, I guess too ashamed to admit you were wrong, and that I indeed do have a PS3.Admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery! Pinaccle = cancer of the gaming community.godzillavskong

These are just rumors, so I won't hold my breath on any of this until Sony actually comes out and says it themselves. They almost never keep the names they initially have for these new systems anyways. Orbis isn't that bad of a name, although it just seems odd if they do name it this, and not keep the trend going with the numericals behind Playstation. Either way I'll purchase one, whenever it releases.

[QUOTE="Kaze_no_Mirai"]

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

I love how its like everybody who isnt a fan of Sony doesnt want to believe that PS4 will be a REAL graphics leap, because all rumors are pointing to Sony being the leader in that reguard. In all my years in gaming, this is the first generation I have ever seen, where fanboys have COMPLAINED and CRIED about getting good graphics. Fanboyism is disgusting.

You "dont want" better hardware, because the company you like the most is on the losing end of that "battle"......PERIOD. So you tell yourselves "Hurpy derp, it'll be $899, or else it'll be on par with the Wii U" NO. Stop dragging everybody else down with yourself. If Nintendo wants to intentionally release a console below industry standards, feel free to buy it, that is nobody else's problem but theirs.

You people act like expecting a true generational leap is some strange unnatural desire, and we are asking so much. How dare we :roll:

BattlefieldFan1

I'm not understanding your logic. What would current gen specs have to do with displaying 4k resolution for next gen consoles? I can possibly see it happening on launch titles.

If SONY puts in a high end 7xxx series, along with 4 GB of RAM, 4k resolution WILL be possible. I'm sure that once the gen progresses, games will become far more complex and the games will only run on 1080p. But for the launch titles, I do see games running at 4k or somewhere near that range.

The PS3 has 256 MB of RAM and 256 MB VRAM and runs games at 720p. If you tried running arkham city or any game released last year on a PC with similar specs, your PC would explode. You need around 10x times the amount of RAM PS3 has and 4x times the amount of VRAM on a PC to run the game smoothly.

You think that a card that'll be released later this year + around 15x the ram of this gen's console + console optimization won't be able to run higher than 1080p?

On a PC that might not be feasible due to the bloated OS, but it's doable on a console.

Now this is assuming SONY puts in an AMD 79xx GPU and 4 GB of ram or something that'll equate to this combo's power.

[QUOTE="Kaze_no_Mirai"]

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

I love how its like everybody who isnt a fan of Sony doesnt want to believe that PS4 will be a REAL graphics leap, because all rumors are pointing to Sony being the leader in that reguard. In all my years in gaming, this is the first generation I have ever seen, where fanboys have COMPLAINED and CRIED about getting good graphics. Fanboyism is disgusting.

You "dont want" better hardware, because the company you like the most is on the losing end of that "battle"......PERIOD. So you tell yourselves "Hurpy derp, it'll be $899, or else it'll be on par with the Wii U" NO. Stop dragging everybody else down with yourself. If Nintendo wants to intentionally release a console below industry standards, feel free to buy it, that is nobody else's problem but theirs.

You people act like expecting a true generational leap is some strange unnatural desire, and we are asking so much. How dare we :roll:

BattlefieldFan1

I'm not understanding your logic. What would current gen specs have to do with displaying 4k resolution for next gen consoles? I can possibly see it happening on launch titles.

If SONY puts in a high end 7xxx series, along with 4 GB of RAM, 4k resolution WILL be possible. I'm sure that once the gen progresses, games will become far more complex and the games will only run on 1080p. But for the launch titles, I do see games running at 4k or somewhere near that range.

The PS3 has 256 MB of RAM and 256 MB VRAM and runs games at 720p. If you tried running arkham city or any game released last year on a PC with similar specs, your PC would explode. You need around 10x times the amount of RAM PS3 has and 4x times the amount of VRAM on a PC to run the game smoothly.

You think that a card that'll be released later this year + around 15x the ram of this gen's console + console optimization won't be able to run higher than 1080p?

On a PC that might not be feasible due to the bloated OS, but it's doable on a console.

Now this is assuming SONY puts in an AMD 79xx GPU and 4 GB of ram or something that'll equate to this combo's power.

SW always amaze me with all this console-gamers believing that consoles run on fairy dust...

Do you realize that a ATI X1950 (from 2005) still can play games like Crysis 2 with equal settings to consoles link (and still using a higher rez than ps3)

A 7xxx class GPU sounds promising, hopefully it's a 7870 since it's very doable inside a console. Now couple that with a 2G GDDR5 ram and a decent CPU then we would have a pretty meaty power leap. Imagine playing games twice as good as looking as BF3 ultra at 1080p 30fps.gpuking

[QUOTE="gpuking"]A 7xxx class GPU sounds promising, hopefully it's a 7870 since it's very doable inside a console. Now couple that with a 2G GDDR5 ram and a decent CPU then we would have a pretty meaty power leap. Imagine playing games twice as good as looking as BF3 ultra at 1080p 30fps.reach3

[QUOTE="reach3"]

[QUOTE="gpuking"]A 7xxx class GPU sounds promising, hopefully it's a 7870 since it's very doable inside a console. Now couple that with a 2G GDDR5 ram and a decent CPU then we would have a pretty meaty power leap. Imagine playing games twice as good as looking as BF3 ultra at 1080p 30fps.MonsieurX

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="reach3"] I don't know why these idiot devs like to sacrifice frames for graphics. How can I enjoy games graphics when the game stutters like **** in big areas? With specs like that, they is NO REASON why Sony and Microsoft shouldn't make 1080p 60 fps STANDARD

reach3

That's why tons of games release with less than 720P native? :lol:

[QUOTE="reach3"][QUOTE="MonsieurX"] They'll make it 720P native resolution for every games,this time.MonsieurX

That's why tons of games release with less than 720P native? :lol:

lol@ people who actually think Sony will prohibit used games, or even MS for that matter.

I love how its like everybody who isnt a fan of Sony doesnt want to believe that PS4 will be a REAL graphics leap, because all rumors are pointing to Sony being the leader in that reguard. In all my years in gaming, this is the first generation I have ever seen, where fanboys have COMPLAINED and CRIED about getting good graphics. Fanboyism is disgusting.

You "dont want" better hardware, because the company you like the most is on the losing end of that "battle"......PERIOD. So you tell yourselves "Hurpy derp, it'll be $899, or else it'll be on par with the Wii U" NO. Stop dragging everybody else down with yourself. If Nintendo wants to intentionally release a console below industry standards, feel free to buy it, that is nobody else's problem but theirs.

You people act like expecting a true generational leap is some strange unnatural desire, and we are asking so much. How dare we :roll:

StrongDeadlift

Sony suffered a $2.96 billion loss back in 2011. And they are expecting a $2.9 billion loss for this year. Do you think Sony can afford the hardware required for 10x better graphics than PS3 in their current financial situation? Do you think anyone would want to buy a console that is so expensive? Do you think Sony can afford to develop and launch a new console at all in their current financial situation? Think about it.

PS3 aimed for 1080p and ended up with sub 720p, so maybe if the ps4 aims for 4k it will actually do 1080p now.

Console games tied to account? No buy. If I wanted account tied games, I'd build a gaming PC where the games will be significantly cheaper. No used games? Bye Sony. (If I even believed this which I don't)