Rumor - PS4 codenamed Orbis, 2013 release, 4K res, no used games?

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#1 shinrabanshou
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Info through the link.

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In brief:

  • 2013 holiday release
  • AMD x64 CPU, Southern Islands GPU
  • No backwards compatibility
  • Games tied to accounts
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#2 super600  Moderator
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Long story. Info throught the link.

Link

shinrabanshou

Yay!For another exaggeration.

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#3 waltefmoney
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Such a dumb codename. Why are console codenames always so stupid?

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#4 BibiMaghoo
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I was excited it may be accurate, until I clicked the link and saw it was Kotaku.
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#5 ForzaGearsFace
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Long story. Info throught the link.

Link

shinrabanshou

i like the specs and the resolution that is impossible to see. I think the release date is wrong though, if this was real i think they would announce it this E3.. 2014 2015 maybe.

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#6 Wasdie  Moderator
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Some of those things sound pretty crazy.

The whole no-used games sound kind of exaggerated and not following with what Sony has been doing with their hardware lately.

Though everybody is sticking to the X86 processor instead of a cell. That rumor must have some merit.

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#7 BibiMaghoo
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God damn it better not be true. I dont want to buy a new TV for resolutions that games dont support. That would be ruinus.
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#8 danish-death
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We'll see at E3 I suppose and if they go with the Orbit name they haven't lied to us about no PS4.
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#9 Heil68
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PS4 is a go locked and loaded. Strap one on, going to be a wild muther fuking ride. Instant day 1 buy.
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#10 shinrabanshou
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[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

Long story. Info throught the link.

Link

super600

Yay!For another exaggeration.

Lol, looked long when I was reading it, but my text is giant sized - if that's what you meant.

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#11 PillyChickle
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If this is true then Sony truly are disgusting masochists.

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#12 ForzaGearsFace
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maybe Sony has a line of 2160p tvs that are coming out, doubt it, how could you even see that resolution? unless you wanna spend 50000 on a display that is a prototype?

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#13 waltefmoney
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PS4 is a go locked and loaded. Strap one on, going to be a wild muther fuking ride. Instant day 1 buy. Heil68

SONY DOMINATION CONTINUATION

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#14 Wasdie  Moderator
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God damn it better not be true. I dont want to buy a new TV for resolutions that games dont support. That would be ruinus. BibiMaghoo

Games wouldn't output in anything higher than 1080p. 4k is rumored to be the next major step for HD movies.

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#15 MonsieurX
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Goodbye cruel world.
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#16 danish-death
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Such a dumb codename. Why are console codenames always so stupid?

waltefmoney
Playstation Vita and Playstation Orbit doesn't sound THAT bad. I personally think it's time to move away from the standard PS# name.
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#17 JohnF111
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" with consumers having to pay a fee to unlock/register the full game" - Not much changing next gen then... Yeah x64 seems better i guess, means that maybe we'll see 4GB RAM or at least the ability to have 4GB RAM... Doubt it though.
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#18 KiZZo1
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If they are going to tie games to accounts they better lower the price of new games or I'm giving them the finger.

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#19 waltefmoney
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Playstation Vita and Playstation Orbit doesn't sound THAT bad. I personally think it's time to move away from the standard PS# name. danish-death

It's not orbit though, it's orbis. Sounds like testis.

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#20 danish-death
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If they are going to tie games to accounts they better lower the price of new games or I'm giving them the finger.

KiZZo1
You better prepare your finger then.
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#21 danish-death
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[QUOTE="danish-death"]Playstation Vita and Playstation Orbit doesn't sound THAT bad. I personally think it's time to move away from the standard PS# name. waltefmoney

It's not orbit though, it's orbis. Sounds like testis.

Your right, my mistake. Orbis sounds kind of dumb..
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#22 JLF1MarkII
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No used option, no buy.

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#23 MonsieurX
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No used option, no buy.

JLF1MarkII
This will happen most likely next gen
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#24 JLF1MarkII
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[QUOTE="JLF1MarkII"]

No used option, no buy.

MonsieurX

This will happen most likely next gen

Here I come Steam.

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#25 SolidTy
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I never put much into rumors, but we'll see if we see anything at E3 in a few months.

"Don't think you can simply buy the disc and stay offline, though; like many PC games these days, you'll need to have a PSN account and be online to even get the thing started."

...not going to happen, more than half the console purchases are users that either don't take their machine online, or don't even have online. This is way too convoluted and just simply not going to happen, much like the 720 rumors. Too many people don't take their consoles online. XBL has over 30 million users, but they have sold 60+ million consoles. Same kind of figures for PS3 vs. PSN, far more PS3 owners in the world that are not online, vs. PSN accounts.

This is also one of the reasons why in SW tabulate PSN, XBLA, and WiiWare in their own catagories, although we don't do that to PC (much to the chagrin of many a System Warrior). This piece was written by Luke Plunkett, that guy has a really spotty history, and combined with this rumor, I wouldn't even think twice about anything I read in this piece. It reads like PS4 rumors we read in the past, with added pizzaz to get hits for Kotaku.

Proof I've been in SW too long, I remember when this was a HOT TOPIC :

PS3 won't play used games 2005 rumor, LOL (news at Joystiq, ohnoes!).


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#26 soapandbubbles
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Such a dumb codename. Why are console codenames always so stupid?

waltefmoney
get over it, they're just names. Your perspective is silly, I bet you care about looks too, right?
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#27 Wasdie  Moderator
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I never put much into rumors, but we'll see if we see anything at E3 in a few months.

SolidTy

According to Sony they aren't even going to show it.

The rumors are all over the place with the PS4 just like they were with the PS3. Who knows what's going to happen.

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#28 waltefmoney
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Such a dumb codename. Why are console codenames always so stupid?

soapandbubbles

get over it, they're just names. Your perspective is silly, I bet you care about looks too, right?

I bet you're ugly.

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#29 JohnF111
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Such a dumb codename. Why are console codenames always so stupid?

waltefmoney
I know they want to give away as little as humanly possible, like when the "Tank" was being developed, the codename "Tank" was chosen to sound as boring as possible so that any spies would simply skip over any documents with such a boring title and go over to the "Pulse Ion Cannon" documents.
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#30 hockeyruler12
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4K Res? Why in hell would they do that? The current consoles can't run 1080p games that well, so if you bump everything to 4K, the polygon counts won't be able to increase by that much. Plus, 4K TVs are still a ways off

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#31 Grey_Eyed_Elf
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4096x2160... so I'm guessing 95% of games will be at 1680x1050 at 30FPS graphics setting equivalent to medium when compared to the same game on PC.
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#32 waltefmoney
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Such a dumb codename. Why are console codenames always so stupid?

JohnF111

I know they want to give away as little as humanly possible, like when the "Tank" was being developed, the codename "Tank" was chosen to sound as boring as possible so that any spies would simply skip over any documents with such a boring title and go over to the "Pulse Ion Cannon" documents.

In that case they should have codenamed it "console"

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#33 loosingENDS
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4K res, like PS3 was supposed to have 1080p resolution ?

That means one game in the million will be 4K, a few 1080p and all the rest sub HD

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#34 ForzaGearsFace
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4K Res? Why in hell would they do that? The current consoles can't run 1080p games that well, so if you bump everything to 4K, the polygon counts won't be able to increase by that much. Plus, 4K TVs are still a ways off

hockeyruler12

they dont even have 1440p in production right now, that part of the rumor is curious to me, although everything else kinda makes sense.

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#35 danish-death
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4K res, like PS3 was supposed to have 1080p resolution ?

That means one game in the million will be 4K, a few 1080p and all the rest sub HD

loosingENDS
Or they are all just 1080p. I really doubt they'll be *sub HD*.
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#36 MonsieurX
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4K res, like PS3 was supposed to have 1080p resolution ?

That means one game in the million will be 4K, a few 1080p and all the rest sub HD

loosingENDS
Yeah,the allmighty 720 will have native 4k,right?
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#37 JohnF111
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[QUOTE="JohnF111"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Such a dumb codename. Why are console codenames always so stupid?

waltefmoney

I know they want to give away as little as humanly possible, like when the "Tank" was being developed, the codename "Tank" was chosen to sound as boring as possible so that any spies would simply skip over any documents with such a boring title and go over to the "Pulse Ion Cannon" documents.

In that case they should have codenamed it "console"

or "box" :lol:
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#38 Fizzman
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All future Playstations will be infeior to the PS3 since PS3 has 4D at 120FPS.

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#39 soapandbubbles
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[QUOTE="soapandbubbles"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Such a dumb codename. Why are console codenames always so stupid?

waltefmoney

get over it, they're just names. Your perspective is silly, I bet you care about looks too, right?

I bet you're ugly.

Nope, fairly good looking. I just dislike egotistical materialistic and predictable people. Something you can work on. Cause THATS what's REALLY ugly. you'll be right ;)

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#40 DaBrainz
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BS, they wouldn't make a console that does more than 1080P
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#41 nameless12345
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No chance for 4K in games unless we're talking upscaled PS3 games (milk the cows with PS3 "true HD" remakes :P ).

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#42 waltefmoney
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Nope, fairly good looking. I just dilike egotistical materialistic and predictable people. Something you can work on. Cause THATS what's REALLY ugly. you'll be right ;) soapandbubbles

Bro, there's no way you can troll me.

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#43 JohnF111
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No chance for 4K in games unless we're talking upscaled PS3 games (milk the cows with PS3 "true HD" remakes :P ).

nameless12345
It'll be for movies, HDMI already supports 4K res, projectors are outputting it, and Sony as always will be pushing 4K much like they did with Blu Ray and 3D.
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#44 Grey_Eyed_Elf
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

4K res, like PS3 was supposed to have 1080p resolution ?

That means one game in the million will be 4K, a few 1080p and all the rest sub HD

danish-death
Or they are all just 1080p. I really doubt they'll be *sub HD*.

Seeing as most HD TV's are "HD READY"(720) I can see developers making games for the next consoles at 1366x768. 20:1 HD TV's are running at 720p in the UK. Its like assuming that the majority of PC gamers have monitors that support 2560x1600. Majority are on 20-22 inch monitors. We will see a push on 1080p and 3D next gen nothing more but you will see a bunch of sub HD games.
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#45 dontshackzmii
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4k how much will it cost? 1200$? how much will a 4ktv cost 5000$? Why is sony pushing 4k when most channels are still in 480i?

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#46 danish-death
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[QUOTE="danish-death"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

4K res, like PS3 was supposed to have 1080p resolution ?

That means one game in the million will be 4K, a few 1080p and all the rest sub HD

Grey_Eyed_Elf
Or they are all just 1080p. I really doubt they'll be *sub HD*.

Seeing as most HD TV's are "HD READY"(720) I can see developers making games for the next consoles at 1366x768. 20:1 HD TV's are running at 720p in the UK. Its like assuming that the majority of PC gamers have monitors that support 2560x1600. Majority are on 20-22 inch monitors. We will see a push on 1080p and 3D next gen nothing more but you will see a bunch of sub HD games.

Most HD TVs? You mean most "older" HD TVs right? Or TVs below 40". At any rate I don't see why the game cannot support both 720p/1080p. I don't see why Sony should hold back.
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#47 shinrabanshou
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I don't think the 4K part is meant to imply that games will be in 4K res. Just that the GPU is capable of it.

I'm assuming at most games will be 1080p next gen.

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#48 svenus97
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[QUOTE="danish-death"]

It's not orbit though, it's orbis. Sounds like testis.

waltefmoney

[QUOTE="danish-death"]Playstation Vita and Playstation Orbit doesn't sound THAT bad. I personally think it's time to move away from the standard PS# name. waltefmoney

It's not orbit though, it's orbis. Sounds like testis.

It's Latin for world, like vita is for life, seems like it will become a trend for them.
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#49 waltefmoney
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It's Latin for world, like vita is for life, seems like it will become a trend for them.svenus97

I know it's latin, that's why I said it sounds like testis which is also latin and would make one hell of a codename.

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#50 Tessellation
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look at the cows damage controlling over the ''no used games'' thing... after they bashed the next xbox for the same reason :lol: