RUMOR: Capcom not feeling confident w/Sony regarding Monster Hunter 5 being a PS4 Exclusive

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#1  Edited By FireEmblem_Man
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Take this rumor w/a grain a salt, this is on GAF

  • Sony paid for exclusive rights of Monster Hunter 5
  • Sony wants to ensure they can take over Japan
  • Capcom wants to make Monster Hunter franchise a success to the West
  • Capcom is making the game w/Western appeal, meaning new gameplay mechanics and higher end graphics, w/a realistic approach (Like Horizon: Zero Dawn)
  • The next Nintendo Monster Hunter game will be made by the Main team, but will be known as Monster Hunter Portable 5 (or another name)
  • Capcom's B-Team is working on Monster Hunter 5 for the PS4
  • Capcom feels that Monster Hunter 5 on the PS4 won't be a success in Japan
  • Capcom also felt sales of Street Fighter V were a disappointment for being a PS4 Exclusive
  • Capcom also thinks that Monster Hunter 5 maybe too different than the older Monster Hunter games.
  • Sony is supposedly to show Monster Hunter 5 this E3 or maybe later in the year (Tokyo Game Show)

The main points that are relevant to gamers are that according to the rumor, Sony has paid for a console exclusive Monster Hunter 5 that changes up the traditional gameplay in some fairly dramatic ways; "streamlined" combat, QTEs, less gathering and prep, and an open world. Capcom allegedly signed on to this because they saw an opportunity for growth in the west via the PS4 userbase and presumably saw Japan as a market in decline. If true, PS4 owners can look forward to a pretty looking Monster Hunter with 5 in the title.

Now why should Switch owners not feel NTR'd? Because the same rumor also states that Capcom got cold feet when they realized that they were risking their reliable Japanese audience to chase western riches. They allegedly decided to hedge by supporting Switch as well, except with the Sony contract already signed, they couldn't call the game Monster Hunter 5. So if you believe the first PS4 part of the rumor, you must also believe that Monster Hunter Portable 5 is coming to Switch, by the main Monster Hunter team, iterating on the traditional gameplay

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#2  Edited By EnergyAbsorber
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Perhaps because Street Fighter 5 flopped Capcom is having doubts?

But they have nobody but themselves to blame for releasing a game that wasn't even half way finished.

Expecting consumers to bend over and buy a half assed finished game right off the bat in Street Fighter 5.

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#3 Telekill
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Considering that Capcom became Crapcom last gen, I don't think even they should pay attention to what they are thinking.

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#4 pyro1245
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Exclusives are usually only beneficial to the platform manufacturer. This exclusivity sounds like a bad idea for Capcom. Especially since Monster Hunter is a rather well-known IP.

I bet the extra sales from the other platforms would outweigh Sony's money.

I kind of wish Sony would quit it with this shit. Exclusivity is usually bad for the devs, the games and the gamers (except for system warriors in need of ammunition).

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Had been fun if Crapcom did a full "home console" Monster Hunter game that is not some handheld crap port.

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#6 APiranhaAteMyVa
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Maybe they should make it Xbox One exclusive that will surely make it a success in Japan.

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#7 Archangel3371
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I was very disappointed with the lack of Street Fighter V on the Xbox One, definitely would have picked up the game otherwise. I would love to see Monster Hunter expand and make its way to the Xbox One as well.

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#8  Edited By FireEmblem_Man
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@aroxx_ab said:

Had been fun if Crapcom did a full "home console" Monster Hunter game that is not some handheld crap port.

That's what they're doing! Monster Hunter 5 for the PS4 is your console game, but NOT in a traditional sense! Also, Japan are the ones demanding for an on the go experience, as it's much bigger than console gaming in Japan. PS4 sales in Japan are slumping while Switch sales are high.

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#9  Edited By aroxx_ab
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@FireEmblem_Man said:
@aroxx_ab said:

Had been fun if Crapcom did a full "home console" Monster Hunter game that is not some handheld crap port.

That's what they're doing! Monster Hunter 5 for the PS4 is your console game, but NOT in a traditional sense! Also, Japan are the ones demanding for an on the go experience, as it's much bigger than console gaming in Japan. PS4 sales in Japan are slumping while Switch sales are high.

Hmm ok we wait and see how this turn out

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#10 FireEmblem_Man
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@aroxx_ab said:
@FireEmblem_Man said:
@aroxx_ab said:

Had been fun if Crapcom did a full "home console" Monster Hunter game that is not some handheld crap port.

That's what they're doing! Monster Hunter 5 for the PS4 is your console game, but NOT in a traditional sense! Also, Japan are the ones demanding for an on the go experience, as it's much bigger than console gaming in Japan. PS4 sales in Japan are slumping while Switch sales are high.

Hmm ok we wait and see how this turn out

You didn't really read the OP, just the topic title, didn't you?

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#11 PinkAnimal
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So Capcom signs a exclusivity deal with Sony and then complain about it while blaming Sony because of SFV sales when everyone already knows it was their own fault? Lol Capcom if true

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#12 daredevils2k
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Well if Capcom stop making games to make a quick buck, but make games that actually matter, then they wouldn't have to blame Sony for their own mistakes.

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#13  Edited By Flubbbs
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Sony wants to ensure they can take over Japan but the are making MH5 to appeal to western audiences? This rumor doesnt make sense and probably is false

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#14 GameboyTroy
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@pyro1245 said:

Exclusives are usually only beneficial to the platform manufacturer. This exclusivity sounds like a bad idea for Capcom. Especially since Monster Hunter is a rather well-known IP.

I bet the extra sales from the other platforms would outweigh Sony's money.

I kind of wish Sony would quit it with this shit. Exclusivity is usually bad for the devs, the games and the gamers (except for system warriors in need of ammunition).

Lol, they are going to be looking for 3rd party exclusives.

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Prefer exclusives, no point in buying a PS without them.

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#16 FireEmblem_Man
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@Flubbbs said:

Sony wants to ensure they can take over Japan but the are making MH5 to appeal to western audiences? This rumor doesnt make sense and probably is false

Sony wants to ensure they have Japan, but Capcom wants to appeal to the Western Audience which is making Monster Hunter 5 look like a Horizon: Zero Dawn clone

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#17 glez13
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@Flubbbs said:

Sony wants to ensure they can take over Japan but the are making MH5 to appeal to western audiences? This rumor doesnt make sense and probably is false

Actually it kinda makes sense since it would be Capcom the one doing double play. They also have experience since they have done so in the past with Resident Evil 3 double playing Sony and Sega.

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#18 Nonstop-Madness
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The best approach would probably be to release it as multi platform game (PS4, PC, XONE) but provide Sony with marketing rights in Japan and the West. I don't see how that wouldn't be a win-win for everyone involved.

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Multi platform for the win and I am all for it being multiplatform even if I am not interested in the game.

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#21  Edited By QuadKnight
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Sounds like a bullshit rumor. If it's true then Capcom is run by even bigger idiots than I imagined. Crapcom have no one to blame but themselves when it comes to SFV flopping. You released a half finished game expect to have shit sales.

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#22 FireEmblem_Man
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@metalslimenite said:

I don't believe the PlayStation rumor to begin with. Monster Hunter has basically been a Nintendo franchise for a good while now, and the recent announcement proves it. I'm sure MH5 will be a Switch exclusive too.

If Sony threw a lot of money to make Monster Hunter 5 a PS4 exclusive, then Capcom would take it. But Capcom is having doubts with it, so Capcom's Main Monster Hunter team is making Monster Hunter Portable 5 for the Switch. Meaning that MH5 for the PS4 would not be a mainline MH title.

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@quadknight said:

Sounds like a bullshit rumor. If it's true then Capcom is run by even bigger idiots than I imagined. Crapcom have no one to blame but themselves when it comes to SFV flopping. You released a half finished game expect to have shit sales.

I blame it on the "exclusivity"

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@metalslimenite said:

I don't believe the PlayStation rumor to begin with. Monster Hunter has basically been a Nintendo franchise for a good while now, and the recent announcement proves it. I'm sure MH5 will be a Switch exclusive too.

Capcom has experience with this kind of thing, just look at the whole thing with Resident Evil 3. Just replace RE with MH and Sony/Sega with Nintendo/Sony and this rumor is for the most part that whole situation once again.

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#25 FireEmblem_Man
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@glez13 said:
@metalslimenite said:

I don't believe the PlayStation rumor to begin with. Monster Hunter has basically been a Nintendo franchise for a good while now, and the recent announcement proves it. I'm sure MH5 will be a Switch exclusive too.

Capcom has experience with this kind of thing, just look at the whole thing with Resident Evil 3. Just replace RE with MH and Sony/Sega with Nintendo/Sony and this rumor is for the most part that whole situation once again.

Don't forget Resident Evil 4, Capcom had cold feet w/Nintendo on being a GC exclusive and then later released the game on the PS2 on the same year in the Fall.

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#26 aroxx_ab
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@FireEmblem_Man said:
@aroxx_ab said:
@FireEmblem_Man said:
@aroxx_ab said:

Had been fun if Crapcom did a full "home console" Monster Hunter game that is not some handheld crap port.

That's what they're doing! Monster Hunter 5 for the PS4 is your console game, but NOT in a traditional sense! Also, Japan are the ones demanding for an on the go experience, as it's much bigger than console gaming in Japan. PS4 sales in Japan are slumping while Switch sales are high.

Hmm ok we wait and see how this turn out

You didn't really read the OP, just the topic title, didn't you?

yeah

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#27  Edited By jv303
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I'm a PS4 fan, but yeah, MH should live on Nintendo.

That's where their fanbase is.

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#28 k--m--k
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I don't know guys, no one forced capcom here to sign the deal.

So I don't understand their dislike. How about some update on their lost game deep down instead?

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#29 OmniChris
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There's really no need to westernize it for it to be a success in the west.

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#30 kvally
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The game is on Nitendo too.

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#31  Edited By blackace
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@APiranhaAteMyVa said:

Maybe they should make it Xbox One exclusive that will surely make it a success in Japan.

Maybe they should make it for PS4, Switch & XB1. That would make it successful everywhere. Capcom is so stupid. You would think that SF5 would have taught them something.

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#32  Edited By deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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I know MH is big in Japan and all but I honestly couldnt care less about the franchise so... meh

@blackace said:

You would think that SF5 would have taught them something.

Taught what exactly? To not release unfinished half a**ed games? I doubt that

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#34 glez13
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@FireEmblem_Man said:
@glez13 said:
@metalslimenite said:

I don't believe the PlayStation rumor to begin with. Monster Hunter has basically been a Nintendo franchise for a good while now, and the recent announcement proves it. I'm sure MH5 will be a Switch exclusive too.

Capcom has experience with this kind of thing, just look at the whole thing with Resident Evil 3. Just replace RE with MH and Sony/Sega with Nintendo/Sony and this rumor is for the most part that whole situation once again.

Don't forget Resident Evil 4, Capcom had cold feet w/Nintendo on being a GC exclusive and then later released the game on the PS2 on the same year in the Fall.

But Resident Evil 4 wasn't a real business partnership between Capcom and Nintendo. It was just part of a series of titles that Capcom decided to announce first for the Nintendo console as a way to keep the Japanese console market going strong and diverse with competition, while also helping out an old business partner. There was never a real monetary exchange, otherwise Nintendo would have surely sued, instead it just ended up souring their business relationship for a while. With Resident Evil 3 there was an actual agreement with monetary exchanges between the parts and that is why Capcom ended up cleverly stretching the terms by adding a 3 on the title of a spin-off, and removing the 3 while adding a subtitle on the actual big project, which is more in line with what this rumor is claiming.

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#35 blackace
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@Vatusus said:

I know MH is big in Japan and all but I honestly couldnt care less about the franchise so... meh

@blackace said:

You would think that SF5 would have taught them something.

Taught what exactly? To not release unfinished half a**ed games? I doubt that

Yeah and poor sales. Even all the hype it got didn't help it much. I think Sony rushed them to release it and hoped it would sell million and millions on the hype alone. Didn't happen.

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#36  Edited By m_machine024
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QTE's in MH? No thanks.

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#37  Edited By deactivated-5c1d0901c2aec
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It would be great to see the Monster Hunter series appear on more platforms. I understand the logic that Monster Hunter is a very popular series in Japan and portable gaming is paramount there too - hence why the series appears on 3DS, but there I still feel there is a market for Monster Hunter on PS4.

Capcom confuse me to no end though. If this rumor is to be believed and Capcom wish to see success for the series in the west but 'westernizing' the design, then doesn't that decision somewhat conflict with Sony's intent? That seems like a weird juxtaposition. Again going by the rumor, it sounds like they are moving away from the Japanese market in favor of hoping to capture a western market...

I hope Capcom's localization improves too. We have yet to hear any word regarding the localization of The Great Ace Attorney or Monster Hunter XX. There seems to be a disconnect between Capcom JP and Capcom USA in that regard.

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Cinematic story-driven Monster Hunter?

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#39  Edited By deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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@blackace said:
@Vatusus said:

I know MH is big in Japan and all but I honestly couldnt care less about the franchise so... meh

@blackace said:

You would think that SF5 would have taught them something.

Taught what exactly? To not release unfinished half a**ed games? I doubt that

Yeah and poor sales. Even all the hype it got didn't help it much. I think Sony rushed them to release it and hoped it would sell million and millions on the hype alone. Didn't happen.

uh, the game was also on PC so exactly why are you putting all the blame on Sony? What about Rise of the Tomb Raider? Sunset Overdrive?

SF V didnt sell because it had low reviews due to an abismal lack of content at launch. Dont be naive. Both Sunset Overdrive and RotTR had the scores and the content and still didnt sell. How about that?

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@howmakewood said:

Cinematic story-driven Monster Hunter?

Like all Sony's First Party titles? Yes!

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@Archangel3371 said:

I was very disappointed with the lack of Street Fighter V on the Xbox One, definitely would have picked up the game otherwise. I would love to see Monster Hunter expand and make its way to the Xbox One as well.

Buyers remorse I see.

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Can't wait for dat emotional monster hunting.

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#44  Edited By Archangel3371
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@putaspongeon: Nope, no buyer's remorse for me.

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Don't buy the rumor for a second. Don't think Nintendo would be stupid enough to let that fall through and I'd doubt Capcom would want to burn bridges like that.

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#46 LegatoSkyheart
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This rumor stems off of a 4Chan rumor which accurately predicted a Switch version of Double Cross (which got announced earlier this weekend).

I think it might be more believable that Monster Hunter 5 will come out on both PS4 and Switch.

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#47 FireEmblem_Man
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@LegatoSkyheart: yes, but they stated that Sony bought marketing rights as well as exclusivity. They also stated that the main Monster Hunter team is working on the Switch with classic MH gameplay, while the PS4 game is with the number scheme and being worked by Capcoms B-team

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What happened to Monster Hunter Frontier Z?

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#49  Edited By Tigerbalm
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This rumor is all over the map. Main Team, B-team, Western style gameplay to win Japan, and paid exclusivity. Okay...

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#50 UItravioIence
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Monster hunter on ps4? Nice!