Rise of the Triad - 5.5

While I agree with the complaints, I think the score is way too harsh. I would say its a good game (not a mediocore one) and if quicksaving and optimisation issues can be fixed then it will easily be a great game. Despite its flaws you get quite a bit of fun for only 15 dollars. 

Once the optimization and bugs are fixed this will surely be a must-buy for anyone that loves old school shooters.

With the gameplay itself there seems to be nothing wrong. You either like old school shooters like this, or you don't.

I just find the checkpoint system weird choice considering that the original had free saves. 

Ye the reviewer is obviously a casual fps COD player, Iam loving this game so far, one of the most funnest fps Iv played in a long time, it does a have a few bugs and performance issues, but not unplayble. Funny thing is, this game is the same price as a COD map pack, that offeres 4 maps, while this offeres a full game, with SP and MP, that is better than any COD game.

Ye the reviewer is obviously a casual fps COD player, Iam loving this game so far, one of the most funnest fps Iv played in a long time, it does a have a few bugs and performance issues, but not unplayble. Funny thing is, this game is the same price as a COD map pack, that offeres 4 maps, while this offeres a full game, with SP and MP, that is better than any COD game.

ultimate-k

Wait, they scored it 5.5? How did I miss that?

The multiplayer alone makes it a better game than that, nevermind the value proposition in it ($15 is a stupidly good price).

ROTT!!!!!!!!!!! :shock: 

I haven't played that game since the mid-90's.  I've been on a retro buying binge here lately.

Doom Classic Complete is ruling my life right now.  $15 seems a little steep for ROTT.  Did it have many expansions?

ROTT!!!!!!!!!!! :shock: 

I haven't played that game since the mid-90's.  I've been on a retro buying binge here lately.

Doom Classic Complete is ruling my life right now.  $15 seems a little steep for ROTT.  Did it have many expansions?

Boddicker

It's a new one my man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFLNrfc4HKY

What?!?! Another PC exclusive flop? More games, equal more flops. Loving all the damage control from hermits. Too funny. Let's see if Gamespot got it right or not?

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/rise-of-the-triad

Looks like they took it a little too low as usual, but it's still a flop even by Metacritics standards.

I'll pick it up when it's on sale. I own the original (and the GOG version) still in its jewel case. Such a classic.Stevo_the_gamer

Nostalgia engaged

What?!?! Another PC exclusive flop? More games, equal more flops. Loving all the damage control from hermits. Too funny. Let's see if Gamespot got it right or not?

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/rise-of-the-triad

Looks like they took it a little too low as usual, but it's still a flop even by Metacritics standards.

blackace

It's not a flop as there was no hype thread or score prediction.

What?!?! Another PC exclusive flop? More games, equal more flops. Loving all the damage control from hermits. Too funny. Let's see if Gamespot got it right or not?

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/rise-of-the-triad

Looks like they took it a little too low as usual, but it's still a flop even by Metacritics standards.

blackace

What?!?! Another PC exclusive flop? More games, equal more flops. Loving all the damage control from hermits. Too funny. Let's see if Gamespot got it right or not?

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/rise-of-the-triad

Looks like they took it a little too low as usual, but it's still a flop even by Metacritics standards.

blackace

Optimization can be fixed somehow by modifying some files. The checkpoints I agree though. But for what little I played, it is a great game that captures the feeling of the original RoTT.

In the end, the review score doesnt have to matter. This game was made in mind for people that love and miss the old school feeling instead of the linear shooters that are released these days.

games got serious performance issues.

Just about everyone buying such FPS games knows they're niche and unlikely to receive widespread praise from critics/circles that simply didn't enjoy old school style FPS games. The same thing happened with Hard Reset--a ton of publications gave it 6/10s, etc, yet it was an amazing game for fans of the style. The optimisation issues hopefully will be solved, and as for the checkpoint system....personally, I think it's just like Hard Reset--the devs do it to ratch the difficulty up. It is harder to have to go through an entire area than it is to load up a save right before you're about to do the more difficult parts of the map. It doesn't ruin the game for me though. 

This games more dukenukem than forever ever will be, apparently the develeopers of this are the same ones that were working on the duke nukem 3d reboot that gearbox shut down.

now if only it was dukenukem, lol. Never played ROTT, but these guys really remind me of nazi's.

This games more dukenukem than forever ever will be, apparently the develeopers of this are the same ones that were working on the duke nukem 3d reboot that gearbox shut down.

now if only it was dukenukem, lol. Never played ROTT, but these guys really remind me of nazi's.

ReadingRainbow4

Well ROTT was originally meant to be a Wolfenstein 3d sequel

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This games more dukenukem than forever ever will be, apparently the develeopers of this are the same ones that were working on the duke nukem 3d reboot that gearbox shut down.

now if only it was dukenukem, lol. Never played ROTT, but these guys really remind me of nazi's.

way2funny

Well ROTT was originally meant to be a Wolfenstein 3d sequel

It seems so, the first few stages that I've played gave me massive flashbacks to return to castle wolfenstein mixed with quake 3.

Unfortunately, the single-player campaign has some problems that can be a major buzz-kill. For starters, ROTT uses an unforgiving checkpoint save system. One particular sequence places you in a room dominated by a perpetually circling array of blade-covered blocks. Next is a room with a half-dozen rocket-launcher-toting goons, followed by a chamber with a bridge that rotates clockwise over an instant death pit. You must then make a harrowing leap across the pit while dodging a laser. One mistake sends you back to the blades and blocks room, screaming in impotent rage.

I mean, what the hell did the reviewer expect? Regenerating health? Cover system? Other casual crap? It's an old school title when FPS games were actually difficult to master and success gave a rewarding gaming experience. And he actually takes that as a CON?!

I'm generally skeptical of "old school" FPS games. Many of the ones I've gotten the chance to play feel like they lack any sort of substance to them, and are the very definition of mindless point-and-shoot.

With that said, this game actually looks pretty good.

There is a reason first person shooters have evolved over time. The same thing happened with the recent Shadowrun. 

People always talk about how great these old games are and how new games ruin the genre. But when these games are remade with the old mechanics, it really shows how dated they have become. They can't hold up to today's standards.

There is a reason first person shooters have evolved over time. The same thing happened with the recent Shadowrun. 

People always talk about how great these old games are and how new games ruin the genre. But when these games are remade with the old mechanics, it really shows how dated they have become. They can't hold up to today's standards.

15strong

Shadowrun doesn´t even fall into that category,it was mostly criticised because it´s short and lacked a lot of mechanics of those games of old,exactly the opposite of what you´re saying,it´s with the bigger budget ones like Wasteland 2 but especially Project Eternity and Torment Tides of Numenera that things will get serious,those are proper,fully feartured old school RPG´s. And even then,Shadowrun returns has been very well recieved.

So yeah,if they´re made in the way they were back in the day,they most certainly can and will hold up to standards,probably end up being among the best RPG´s in years when they release,especially when we consider how pitiful the genre has been.

There is a reason first person shooters have evolved over time. The same thing happened with the recent Shadowrun. 

People always talk about how great these old games are and how new games ruin the genre. But when these games are remade with the old mechanics, it really shows how dated they have become. They can't hold up to today's standards.

15strong

Shadowrun Returns primarily dissapointed some because of its limited breadth. Unlike older CRPGs like Fallout or Baldur's Gate, Shadowrun Returns didn't feature a large overworld filled with tons of sidequests and secerets. Instead it told a very straight forward narrative, with little interaction outside of that main narrative. The reason they did this is that they knew they couldn't create that type of game within their limited time and budgetary constraints, so they made the game very mod friendly in the hope that people would create that world. 

There is a reason first person shooters have evolved over time. The same thing happened with the recent Shadowrun.

People always talk about how great these old games are and how new games ruin the genre. But when these games are remade with the old mechanics, it really shows how dated they have become. They can't hold up to today's standards.

15strong

stop right there..

lol.

lol. Have fun with your 5.5 scoring exclusive herms. Now excuse me I'm gonna go play the GOTY The Last Of Us which has a 95% on metacritic and received worldwide acclaim as well as over 50 perfect scores. You may have heard of it.

Unfortunately, the single-player campaign has some problems that can be a major buzz-kill. For starters, ROTT uses an unforgiving checkpoint save system. One particular sequence places you in a room dominated by a perpetually circling array of blade-covered blocks. Next is a room with a half-dozen rocket-launcher-toting goons, followed by a chamber with a bridge that rotates clockwise over an instant death pit. You must then make a harrowing leap across the pit while dodging a laser. One mistake sends you back to the blades and blocks room, screaming in impotent rage.

I mean, what the hell did the reviewer expect? Regenerating health? Cover system? Other casual crap? It's an old school title when FPS games were actually difficult to master and success gave a rewarding gaming experience. And he actually takes that as a CON?!

IgGy621985

That is a legitimate con. There is no excuse for a shitty checkpoint system.

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Unfortunately, the single-player campaign has some problems that can be a major buzz-kill. For starters, ROTT uses an unforgiving checkpoint save system. One particular sequence places you in a room dominated by a perpetually circling array of blade-covered blocks. Next is a room with a half-dozen rocket-launcher-toting goons, followed by a chamber with a bridge that rotates clockwise over an instant death pit. You must then make a harrowing leap across the pit while dodging a laser. One mistake sends you back to the blades and blocks room, screaming in impotent rage.

I mean, what the hell did the reviewer expect? Regenerating health? Cover system? Other casual crap? It's an old school title when FPS games were actually difficult to master and success gave a rewarding gaming experience. And he actually takes that as a CON?!

Master_ShakeXXX

That is a legitimate con. There is no excuse for a shitty checkpoint system.

Dosnt have a shitty checkpoint system, oh noes it dosn't save everytime I kill an enemy.

No suprises there, titles like this aim for a specific audience, and simply don't sit well with some of the reviewers, it's a "love it or hate it" kind of thing.

That said, I'll check out the game eventually, hopefully those optimization issues will be fixed soon, don't want erratic frame rates in a fast-paced, old-school shooter, and I read the game can easily jump from 100+ FPS down to 40 FPS, which doesn't sound pretty.

[QUOTE="IgGy621985"]

Unfortunately, the single-player campaign has some problems that can be a major buzz-kill. For starters, ROTT uses an unforgiving checkpoint save system. One particular sequence places you in a room dominated by a perpetually circling array of blade-covered blocks. Next is a room with a half-dozen rocket-launcher-toting goons, followed by a chamber with a bridge that rotates clockwise over an instant death pit. You must then make a harrowing leap across the pit while dodging a laser. One mistake sends you back to the blades and blocks room, screaming in impotent rage.

I mean, what the hell did the reviewer expect? Regenerating health? Cover system? Other casual crap? It's an old school title when FPS games were actually difficult to master and success gave a rewarding gaming experience. And he actually takes that as a CON?!

Master_ShakeXXX

That is a legitimate con. There is no excuse for a shitty checkpoint system.

Eh, if someone can't pass a level without checkpoints every 5 minutes they should stick with Call of Duty. 

I understand it frustrates the newer gamers and newer games should be design with lots of checkpoints to keep frustration to a minimum but ROTT is supposed to be a throwback to the older era, it shouldn't try to appeal to people used to easier games.

I would have been fine with no checkpoints to be honest. :P Games like DOOM and Duke Nukem 3D had no checkpoints but you could save whenever you wanted.

pc games don't wanna tout this? If it got a 9.0 or something we would be hearing about it for weeks

pc games don't wanna tout this? If it got a 9.0 or something we would be hearing about it for weeks

Chris_Williams

I don't see people making Dota 2 threads weeks after it got a 9.0 here yet every sony fanboy were in denial that the TLOU flop here

But but but PC as leading platform!!!!

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pc games don't wanna tout this? If it got a 9.0 or something we would be hearing about it for weeks

TheFadeForever

I don't see people making Dota 2 threads weeks after it got a 9.0 here yet every sony fanboy were in denial that the TLOU flop here

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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

pc games don't wanna tout this? If it got a 9.0 or something we would be hearing about it for weeks

Chris_Williams

I don't see people making Dota 2 threads weeks after it got a 9.0 here yet every sony fanboy were in denial that the TLOU flop here

Ye the reviewer is obviously a casual fps COD player, Iam loving this game so far, one of the most funnest fps Iv played in a long time, it does a have a few bugs and performance issues, but not unplayble. Funny thing is, this game is the same price as a COD map pack, that offeres 4 maps, while this offeres a full game, with SP and MP, that is better than any COD game.

ultimate-k

pc games don't wanna tout this? If it got a 9.0 or something we would be hearing about it for weeks

Chris_Williams

Really I don't recall pc gamer make threads for weeks because a game got 9.0

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

pc games don't wanna tout this? If it got a 9.0 or something we would be hearing about it for weeks

CroidX

Really I don't recall pc gamer make threads for weeks because a game got 9.0

[QUOTE="CroidX"]

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

pc games don't wanna tout this? If it got a 9.0 or something we would be hearing about it for weeks

MrYaotubo

Really I don't recall pc gamer make threads for weeks because a game got 9.0

Exactly we already have some high scoring games but we aren't talking about them a lot