@MBirdy88 said:
@RR360DD said:
@MBirdy88 said:
@RR360DD said:
@Murderstyle75 said:
@RR360DD:
You are forgetting something about launch lineups though. Remember the PS2? One first party launch game yet the console finished with the most credible lineup in history. Meanwhile both the Dreamcast and Xbox had two of the best "Launch lineups ever".
Too many people here only see the short term. Since Xbox has more games "now", it must be the better system. Right? Well how many new retail IP's has Microsoft even had this year, either first or third party? That answer would be zero. Same for 2012 and 2011 as well unless you want to include Wii clones.
And you are forgetting something as well. I do remember the PS2, and I also remember Sony being in a MUCH MUCH better position back then than they are now. Much better.
All the analysts who predicted Sony would depend on indies this generation because they are cheap were absolutely correct.
You can keep pulling the wool over your eyes all you want. If you want to lay $350 on a system to play indie games that a $100 tablet could handle, fair enough. But you will not see the same investment in blockbuster games this generation from Sony that you have in the past. They simply can't afford to do it. They are already making a loss on every PS4 sold.
.... so short sighted. how many of sony's first parties have been closed because they can't afford them now? none. they are just not ready for release unlike Microsoft that is forcing mediocre games, all eggs in their basket besides Halo in one go. anyone with half a brain sees this.
"buh buh i need games now" ok, good for you, i can wait instead of wasting £500 on these pathetically entertainmentless release devices.
They've actually closed / cut ties with a few developers. They closed SCELiverpool last year. They closed Zipper interactive last year. They cut ties with Superbot last year. They cut ties with Lightbox Interactive. Cut ties with Eat Sleep play etc.
Compared to MS (who have closed studios in the past) but have actually bene expanding these past couple of years setting up new studios.
I think its time people open their eyes because cows have been spreading lies long enough that people genuinely think Sonts 1st party is untouchable. I remember cows trying to pass off Guerilla having multiple teams working on PS4 games. Nope. They're just getting done on Shafow Fall and we'll have another 2-3 year wait for whatever the next average game they decide to release is.
What third party exclusives have Sony secured that aren't indies? They seem to be wasting their investment on 6 month exclusive content deals for garbage like AC4 and Watchdogs.
Theres absolutely nothing short sighted about what I said. Even forgetting Microsoft, Sony will depend on indies this generation. They've proved it already by filling their E3 with it and only announced ONE new game (The Order). Might as well call the playstation 4 the naughtydog station because thats all its good for.
Failing to mention that alot of those new studios are kinect crap, rare's rebranding ect and indies aswell? hypocritical much?
Doesn't change the fact that in the last 4 odd years sony's game releases have been alot more damn varied than microsofts and of equal or better quality depending on your preference.
They have so many studios some are bound to close, I don't even like guerilla games that much. but will we be seeing future TALES OF games on X1? since they dropped Xbox support, because you know, all you guys every buy is gears, forza, halo and cod or the next sports game and your console of choice is practically dead in asia/europe?(minus uk).
"relying on indies" and "announcing proper support for indies" is not the same thing. one new game released at e3? yes because they already showed their games. whereas microsoft spent their introductory conference talking about SPAWTS AND TV. something I can get without a damn £420 paperweight. then they showed their games at e3 in reverse.
My point still stands, alot of lemmings were on the brink of converted and have been lulled back in by a few mediocre dead franchises with some sort of false-hope that microsoft give a damn about the core gamer again. i thought apple were brilliant at marketing... but it turns out people are just stupid.
Actually no, 343 was set up. Black Tusk. MSV.
Sony actually don't have that many studios. Another misconception.
And at least lems actually buy their games, unlike cows.
And no, they are not the same thing. Sony announced their indie support (which is fair enough, MS did the same) at their PS4 reveal. They then badgered on about indies for the next few months leading to E3. Then at E3, after they were done talking about PS3, PS3, VITA, MOVIES, TV, TV, ONLINE FEES, they filled the rest with INDIE games and snuck in ONE proper game (The Order) which is absolutely pathetic.
Sony revealed 4 exclusives at their reveal. MS, even with their focus on things like TV and Sports, managed to announce 2 (and then a ton more at E3). So this other misconception that Sony was/is far ahead in the games race is total bullshit.
So no, your point doesn't stand. Gamers are gamers. They enjoy playing games, and the first year lineup on the PS4 is pathetic. If someone chooses to buy an XOne for the stronger lineup and you call them stupid for that, then you're an even bigger cow than I thought.
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