Ratchet and Clank has long hidden load times.

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Poll Ratchet and Clank has long hidden load times. (32 votes)

10.27 TFLOPS! 41%
9.2 tflop. 59%

Up to 13 seconds before real gameplay.

Cerny mentioned 30 second long elevator rides. You still can't control it but least now it's more visually involved.

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#1 DrSerigala
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I thought you can teleport as you like between different realms, but it turn out you can just like blink to different places on the same map, what is the different then with game like dishonored ,etc.

The only teleport between realms at the demo gameplay is a scripted animation, and it actually took 13 seconds. Lol

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#2 deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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Damn 13secs, Sony wasted money on that secret sauce SSD lol.

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#3 Bluestars
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Bu bu but the SSD

HaH

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#4 firedrakes
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@bluestars: ram walks in.

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#5 rzxv04
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@firedrakes: ssd walks in.

throttled cpu walks out.

throttled gpu walks out.

cerny walks out.

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#6 deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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Cows avoiding this thread like the plague lol.

What says you cows???

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#7 Pedro
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I will be honest, I don't care because its Ratchet and Clank. 😁

Besides, its better than a hard loading screen.😎

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#8 thedork_knight
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Wheres the usual suspects to defend this, 5hr old thread and @tormentos, @louixiii, @gifford38 havent given us their valuable input?

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#9 VFighter
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A nobody youtuber with 4 subscribers bwahahaha, ok thanks for the laugh.

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#10 tormentos
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@thedork_knight said:

Wheres the usual suspects to defend this, 5hr old thread and @tormentos, @louixiii, @gifford38 havent given us their valuable input?

Lets see random video claiming random load times pulled from deep deep down some random fanboy ass on the internet with 4 followers and posted here by a random lemming alt.

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#11 deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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@vfighter said:

A nobody youtuber with 4 subscribers bwahahaha, ok thanks for the laugh.

That's what you got from that video? WOW this is the worst damage control i've seen.

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#12 tormentos
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@i_p_daily said:
@vfighter said:

A nobody youtuber with 4 subscribers bwahahaha, ok thanks for the laugh.

That's what you got from that video? WOW this is the worst damage control i've seen.

There is nothing to damage control man,is a made up video from some one claiming random load times without actually knowing shit,and like always lemmings such as your self believe that shit.

Hell that could be rzxv04 account for all we know or yours.😂😂😂

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#13 VFighter
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@i_p_daily: Your trolling is beyond repair at this point, time to hang it up IP. :(

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#14 deactivated-642321fb121ca
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At least use credible sources, then we can all laugh and whatnot.

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#16 NathanDrakeSwag
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More lies made up by Xbots just like how that other guy got caught lying when he said RE8 would run at 1080p on PS5.

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#17 Pedro
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This why Sony fannies are the easiest targets on the board. They can get baited into anything and their tears are plentiful. I look forward to a response thread from the Sony fannies' top lawyer. 😂

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#18 VFighter
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@Pedro: Are you drunk again? Who got baited exactly lol other then lems.

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#19 Pedro
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@vfighter said:

@Pedro: Are you drunk again? Who got baited exactly lol other then lems.

You are here. Your self ownage has been

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#20 BenjaminBanklin
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Did you create this video? Sad. You can already feel that lem panic setting in. Because they know Xbox Series X is only going to be on the market 2 and a half years. 🤣

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#21 VFighter
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@Pedro: And you're here owning yourself like usual, you cant make this up lol. Pssst, the gif gives away your ownage, maybe next bait thread will work in your favor.

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#22 Archangel3371
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Personally I don’t get too fussed about loading unless it’s an exceptionally long time looking at a static screen. I’m just happy with going from the loading off of an HDD to that of an SSD in general. I can see how hearing this though could rustle some people’s jimmies. 😅

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#23 Pedro
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@vfighter said:

@Pedro: And you're here owning yourself like usual, you cant make this up lol. Pssst, the gif gives away your ownage, maybe next bait thread will work in your favor.

You and your entire goon family are in this thread. You and others got baited. Don't be ashamed.

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#24  Edited By xantufrog  Moderator
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I was wondering about this issue myself yesterday, actually. Or more specifically - the SSD can be as fast as it wants but the CPU needs to be able to take all the static disc drive content and instantiate a world out of it (including AI, physics, etc - it's not just a matter of loading map geometry and calling it a day). Seems like you'd still have to be smart about how loading is handled on large scales - you can't just dump a bunch of lego blocks in someone's lab and expect the castle to be built at the same instant, if you know what I mean

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#25 Pedro
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@xantufrog said:

I was wondering about this issue myself yesterday, actually. Or more specifically - the SSD can be as fast as it wants but the CPU needs to be able to take all the static disc drive content and instantiate a world out of it (including AI, physics, etc - it's not just a matter of loading map geometry and calling it a day). Seems like you'd still have to be smart about how loading is handled on large scales - you can't just dump a bunch of lego blocks in someone's lab and expect the castle to be built at the same instant, if you know what I mean

I have been saying this for some time and certain members believed it was an attack on the PS5. The reality is that loading data is part of the loading process, the other is activation of the assets as you described. There is also a cost to managing the loading and unloading of assets in scene. All of this has to be managed for no loading screen experience. Too many fall victim to the idea that all of this data management is automatic because of "teh SSD".

Every new gen is the same thing. Overhype, misinformation and the belief that consoles are going to break the standards of computer science.

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#26 Fedor
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I was told there would be no load times and unlimited powah... What a betrayal.

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#27 Pedro
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@fedor said:

I was told there would be no load times and unlimited powah... What a betrayal.

There would be no loading times. Just look away when you suspect the game is loading. 😉

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#28  Edited By regnaston
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Like I said in a previous thread those rifts are load screens disguised as cutscenes. When I first saw this game I was wondering whether there was any player control during the rifts (like could you choose a rift to go into next while in the void) but the extended gameplay at Gamescom made it clear that they were load screen.

The fact they are so short is very impressive though, I think this speaks well for the next generation of games. If we only compare the SSD on the XSX vs PS5 then the Series X should be able to replicate this even if it is a second or two longer (that is just looking at the SSD speed and not the differences in GPU/CPU and RAM.)

The quick resume feature XBOX showed off when they showed Austin Evans the console had him switch back and forth between games in under 6 seconds. Since it takes longer to save than to draw data from the HD then the majority of that time was actually saving the game on the SSD (probably a 2/3 save to 1/3 load ratio). Both of these consoles are not going to be held back by their SSD

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#29 PC_Rocks
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I raised this very point in the first reveal thread by @Zero_epyon. The rest of the internet is just catching on.

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#30  Edited By Tessellation
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@Pedro: Why the senile and the rest of the dwellers camp are saying this is false ?

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#31 ellos
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Its a actually a very neat way to mask improved load times. Too many cuts in the trailer though.

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#32 regnaston
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@ellos said:

Its a actually a very neat way to mask improved load times. Too many cuts in the trailer though.

I agree it is a better way.. no more 60 second elevator rides :D

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#33 Phlop_Spencer
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Lemmings are so desperate they resort to any no name you tuber that will back up their hatred. Biggest losers in gaming are MS supporters LOL

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#34 deactivated-60bf765068a74
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Why does this thread exist

Ratchet 60 FPS its got ray tracing 4k res and it looks great and then we get this shit thread.

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#35 NathanDrakeSwag
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@ProtossRushX said:

Why does this thread exist

Ratchet 60 FPS its got ray tracing 4k res and it looks great and then we get this shit thread.

Because Xbots have no games coming in the next 2 years so all they can do is downplay Sony's expansive next gen lineup.

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#36 PC_Rocks
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Wait cows are dismissing the video proof because a no name you tuber with 4 followers posted it? So are they seriously saying that Sony/Insomniac has published a bu*lshot video which doesn't represent the actual game?

Which one is it, cows?

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#37 PSP107
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@Pedro said:
@fedor said:

I was told there would be no load times and unlimited powah... What a betrayal.

There would be no loading times. Just look away when you suspect the game is loading. 😉

Maybe PS6?

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#38 deactivated-5f58f7bf5ecf3
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I feel like a thread like this should've been a hypothetical joke made by a cow to illustrate the absolute state of lemming desperation.

And yet here we are.

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#39 pyro1245
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Of course there are load times. Just much easier and quicker to hide after finally moving towards SSDs.

We can't use quantum computing to play games... yet.

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#40 LouiXIII
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@thedork_knight said:

Wheres the usual suspects to defend this, 5hr old thread and @tormentos, @louixiii, @gifford38 havent given us their valuable input?

I made the top 3...cool. And I don't have to defend anything because ummm...who is that guy in the video again?

Give me a reliable source please

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#41 hardwenzen
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Are you taking SSD overclocking into consideration? I will overclock mine and so will every sane cow, which will give us better performance. Okay bye.

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#42  Edited By SolidGame_basic
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Oh man this is so depressing. I'm so sad. Nothing else matters anymore..

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#43 madsnakehhh
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I really want to care about this topic ... but man, i don't. At all.

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#44 LouiXIII
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@phlop_spencer said:

Lemmings are so desperate they resort to any no name you tuber that will back up their hatred. Biggest losers in gaming are MS supporters LOL

They're going through a rough time right now is all. Once Halo drops they'll bounce back.

@ProtossRushX said:

Why does this thread exist

Ratchet 60 FPS its got ray tracing 4k res and it looks great and then we get this shit thread.

Desperation bro...

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#45 deactivated-60bf765068a74
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@madsnakehhh said:

I really want to care about this topic ... but man, i don't. At all.

I agree where is neutral king @clone01 at to help call out these crap threads. Oh yea he never calls out lems.

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@regnaston said:
@ellos said:

Its a actually a very neat way to mask improved load times. Too many cuts in the trailer though.

I agree it is a better way.. no more 60 second elevator rides :D

Same here. I like the way its being handle in Rift Apart. If it works, it ain't stupid.

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#47 Nonstop-Madness
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A 2s load time is pretty darn short.

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#48 JasonOfA36
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Sony's SSD > any quantum computers out there.

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#49  Edited By hrt_rulz01
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@BenjaminBanklin: Lem panic?? HAHAHAHAHAHA. That's hilarious.

It's you lot that are panicking. Haven't stopped making anti-Xbox threads since it was revealed that the XsX is more powerful. Lmao.

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#50 BenjaminBanklin
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@hrt_rulz01 said:

@BenjaminBanklin: Lem panic?? HAHAHAHAHAHA. That's hilarious.

It's you lot that are panicking. Haven't stopped making anti-Xbox threads since it was revealed that the XsX is more powerful. Lmao.

No one even cares if it's more powerful when the flagship game looked like dogshit and the other supposed AAA games that are coming won't show up until 2023. This was over before it even started. Xbox made themselves irrelevant out the gate.