PSVR is a flop; Microsoft could hold the key

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#1 HarnessThePower
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Sony is desperately trying to push VR in our faces by introducing PSVR. From personal experience, I can tell you PSVR is a waste of time and money. It is not ready for mainstream consumption, but $ony will do anything they can to earn an extra buck. The games selection is not getting enough 3rd party support, so Sony will have to force on us some 1st party rehashes.

Microsoft on the other hand is carefully trying to integrate VR into their gaming experience by introducing VR headsets at each Microsoft store and carefully evaluating the individual consumer experience. Microsoft brought us Kinect, which was a massive success. Kinect 2 did not perform as well due to negative press, but it was equally unique.

Nintendo is out of the game, so I won't mention them.

What say you? Can Microsoft save the VR day by brining us some revolutionary hardware?

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#2 deactivated-63d2876fd4204
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@harnessthepower said:

Sony is desperately trying to push VR in our faces by introducing PSVR. From personal experience, I can tell you PSVR is a waste of time and money. It is not ready for mainstream consumption, but $ony will do anything they can to earn an extra buck. The games selection is not getting enough 3rd party support, so Sony will have to force on us some 1st party rehashes.

Microsoft on the other hand is carefully trying to integrate VR into their gaming experience by introducing VR headsets at each Microsoft store and carefully evaluating the individual consumer experience. Microsoft brought us Kinect, which was a massive success. Kinect 2 did not perform as well due to negative press, but it was equally unique.

Nintendo is out of the game, so I won't mention them.

What say you? Can Microsoft save the VR day by brining us some revolutionary hardware?

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#3 Archangel3371  Online
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Meh. I really don't think VR is going to be the next big thing for gaming. I think it can be fun and cool initially but I think ultimately it'll just kind of drift off. Personally I think AR has a stronger future.

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#4 aigis
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I thought we just had a thread saying it was a success... Youre sending me mixed signals here system wars

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#5 GordonFreeman
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PSVR isn't a flop, VR in general is a flop.

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#6 kvally
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How can a flop be a success? PSVR hasn't even sold half of their projections, from 6 months ago! And look at metacritic. The average PSVR game is rated 67. Ouch.

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#7  Edited By Tigerbalm
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A console needs a good stable of AAA exclusives before dabbling in the VR relm. Im still waiting on the Japanese games after Phils Japan trip. I guess they are being careful in the area too.

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#8 GameboyTroy
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The PSVR is only a flop in your dreams, TC.

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#9  Edited By gago-gago
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Even though Microsoft is the best company to really push VR and have more partners than the joke PSVR, VR will still not be the forefront for gaming as it will come and go. I mean if phones, which almost every one have can't even push VR to go mainstream and stay there, I don't think anything can. So while yes MS can do VR way better than Sony could ever do, it still won't change the fact VR will come and go.

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#10 MonsieurX
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What an original pro Microsoft thread from OP after the one saying PSVR sold 1million

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#11 deactivated-5c0b07b32bf03
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Damage control thread.

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#12 kvally
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@tigerbalm said:

A console needs a good stable of AAA exclusives before dabbling in the VR relm.

That didn't stop the PS4.

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#13 lrdfancypants
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These threads are great.

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#14 Basinboy
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Ha, Kinect. Thanks for the chuckle.

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#15 Douevenlift_bro
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Sounds like TC desperately wants PSVR to be a flop thats why he's saying a lie loud and proud lol

Like, "I had the biggest inauguration crowd EVER! Please believe me!"

Lems go back to hyping scorpio's hardware, lel.

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I'm an Xbox guy and even I wish this TC would stfu already.

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#17 GordonFreeman
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@reduc_ab_ said:

Damage control thread.

When something is doing worse than projected on literally every front the damage is already done, damage control threads are the ones you are constantly creating trying to make PSVR seem like it's doing phenomenally.

This is almost quite literally you.

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#18  Edited By deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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@harnessthepower: Leave PSVR alone and let it die with some dignity.

And no MS should stay the hell away fron VR, unless that VR stands for Virtua Racing :)

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#19 KBFloYd
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the fact that this thread can be made and actually be debatable among gamers proves it is indeed a flop.

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@reduc_ab_ said:

Damage control thread.

https://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/sony-officially-announces-they-have-sold-through-t-33393652/#57

Yup.

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#22 HarnessThePower
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@reduc_ab_ said:

Damage control thread.

Says the biggest fanboy on this site. Please provide some evidence to counter my claims...

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#23  Edited By Wasdie  Moderator
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Million units shipped is a flop? It's the top selling VR device.

That's pretty amazing for a very expensive niche product with a tiny lineup.

Sounds like you're just fanboying it up.

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#24 QuadKnight
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Damage Control thread. OP is mad the Xbone flopped and is trying to divert attention from the true flop that is the Xflop and Kinect 2.0.

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I miss the days of not being able to create threads below a certain post count.

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#26  Edited By deactivated-5c0b07b32bf03
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@harnessthepower said:
@reduc_ab_ said:

Damage control thread.

Says the biggest fanboy on this site. Please provide some evidence to counter my claims...

@Wasdie said:

Million units shipped is a flop? It's the top selling VR device.

That's pretty amazing for a very expensive niche product with a tiny lineup.

Sounds like you're just fanboying it up.

@harnessthepower

Wasdie just did it for me. But the simple fact alone you made this thread directly after I made my thread about Sony's million plus PSVRs sold announcement says it all, dude.

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#27 oflow
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@gordonfreeman said:

This is almost quite literally you.

^^^

Wins the thread everyone else might as well go home lolol

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#28 HarnessThePower
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@oflow said:
@gordonfreeman said:

This is almost quite literally you.

^^^

Wins the thread everyone else might as well go home lolol

Lol, I love this. Re_Duck definitely doesn't mind getting pwn3d.

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#29 Ant_17
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I will agree that the only thing selling me on PSVR is RE7, but it's selling better then the rest.

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#30 shellcase86
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No bueno, dude.

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#31 Phazevariance
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MS "mixed reality" or whatever they call it will likely do better overall because their platform is available for use by other manufacturers. That means multiple manufacturers using a common platform that devs can develop for and release for all of those systems. But... VR still hasn't got that killer app yet.

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#32 kvally
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R.I.P. PSVR, we barely knew ya.

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#34 Chutebox
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@kvally said:

How can a flop be a success? PSVR hasn't even sold half of their projections, from 6 months ago! And look at metacritic. The average PSVR game is rated 67. Ouch.

That wasn't Sony's projections...?

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#35 deactivated-5f3ec00254b0d
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If with the Scorpio MS delivers proper VR I'll trade my PSVR as soon as I can. That image quality is somewhat disappointing.

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#36 Shewgenja
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Came in expecting an OP with no link. Wasn't disappointed lol

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@Shewgenja said:

Came in expecting an OP with no link. Wasn't disappointed lol

Seriously. Even the mods are calling him a fanboy.

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#38  Edited By xxyetixx
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Lol no bro, VR is a gimmick and Ms doesn't need to save it, revive it or use it. No One wants it on PC, PlayStation and no one will want it on Xbox. Maybe in another 20 years VR will rear its ugly head yet again and try to take over the world.

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#39 Shewgenja
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@reduc_ab_ said:
@Shewgenja said:

Came in expecting an OP with no link. Wasn't disappointed lol

Seriously. Even the mods are calling him a fanboy.

All Sony has to do to shut this shit down is get a bunch of Japanese PSVR support. That being said, I do think it would be a good thing if MS was willing to invest in VR as a platform. I'm skeptical because of how the XBox One itself has been treated so far, though.

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#40  Edited By nethernova
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@svaubel said:

I miss the days of not being able to create threads below a certain post count.

I miss the days of Gamespot actually banning trolls.

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#41 Guy_Brohski
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1 million sold in 6 months is a pretty floppy number for a Sony product, tbh. At that rate it would take over 6 years to outsell the Wii U at 12 million. And the Wii U only took 4 years to hit 12 million, and it was considered a flop..

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#42 MonsieurX
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@Guy_Brohski said:

1 million sold in 6 months is a pretty floppy number for a Sony product, tbh. At that rate it would take over 6 years to outsell the Wii U at 12 million. And the Wii U only took 4 years to hit 12 million, and it was considered a flop..

It's a premium product, considering its hefty price and requires a PS4 as well.

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#43 TigerDragon
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While it's fair to give MS points for having demos, and testing interest. even if they did a kinect marketing push for VR, and even if they get Occulus AND Vive on board, let alone their own, it will likely do better than PSVR but the end result will not be long-term. It'll likely hit a wall at 1.2 million like how PS4 hit a wall at 700,000

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#44 lifelessablaze
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People are acting like early sales mean anything. Word will get around that it's a piece of junk with no real games to support it then the sales will tank. So the Kinect was also a success right? I'm not against the idea of VR being the future but PSVR is fake VR. Low resolution, low framerate, low latency, etc...there's a reason why it's half the price of the ones you get on PC.

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#45 TigerDragon
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@lifelessablaze said:

People are acting like early sales mean anything. Word will get around that it's a piece of junk with no real games to support it then the sales will tank. So the Kinect was also a success right? I'm not against the idea of VR being the future but PSVR is fake VR. Low resolution, low framerate, low latency, etc...there's a reason why it's half the price of the ones you get on PC.

PSVR did tank. What?

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they just have to release DOA beach vollyball VR in the US

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@lifelessablaze said:

People are acting like early sales mean anything. Word will get around that it's a piece of junk with no real games to support it then the sales will tank. So the Kinect was also a success right? I'm not against the idea of VR being the future but PSVR is fake VR. Low resolution, low framerate, low latency, etc...there's a reason why it's half the price of the ones you get on PC.

RIP XB1

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@MonsieurX said:
@lifelessablaze said:

People are acting like early sales mean anything. Word will get around that it's a piece of junk with no real games to support it then the sales will tank. So the Kinect was also a success right? I'm not against the idea of VR being the future but PSVR is fake VR. Low resolution, low framerate, low latency, etc...there's a reason why it's half the price of the ones you get on PC.

RIP XB1

lol

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#49 xhawk27
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MS isn't talking about VR on XBox at E3! Looks like they are going to wait until 2018 to talk about having VR on Xbox using a wireless VR headset!

https://www.polygon.com/2017/6/6/15745630/xbox-vr-e3

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#50 Zero_epyon
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@kvally said:

How can a flop be a success? PSVR hasn't even sold half of their projections, from 6 months ago! And look at metacritic. The average PSVR game is rated 67. Ouch.

man you're trying to hard...