OFFICIAL November NPD: Ohh my 360 outsells PS3 by 110k, MW2 6m

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#301 micky4889
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I just don't understand how PS games sell so little. Even the exclusives, all the software does better on 360, I guess the attach rate is higher, I do get all my multi plat games on there. I just find it odd how every big multi-plat does better on the 360.

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The 360 has double the install base of the PS3 in the US so that shouldn't really come as a surprise.
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#302 jessesalinas
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where is the recourse cows??? where is it

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my thoughts exactly. good post,sir :)
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#303 The_Game21x
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After all the talk about the PS3 "doubling" the 360's Black Friday sales and what not, the 360 ends up outselling the PS3 by 110k in November? Wow. I'm actually a bit surprised to hear that. I guess some of the folks forecasting the 360's demise at the hands of the PS3 this past month were a tad misguided in their thought processes. :wink:

I'm more surprised to see the 360 version of MW2 outselling the PS3 version by more than double! :o PS3 owners, step it up!

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#304 TheOldOlder
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So much ownage. I love it. I can't believe after all the crap, it ends like this.

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The Ownage comes when 2009 ends and the Ps3 is still ahead of the 360 in both games and sales for the year...
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#305 jessesalinas
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So much ownage. I love it. I can't believe after all the crap, it ends like this.

heysharpshooter
i agree :)
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#306 KukicAdo
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[QUOTE="KukicAdo"][QUOTE="njean777"]

WRONG, npd does not include walmart, try google next time......

njean777

:| NPD Estimates Walmarts numbers

Estimates are not exact :shock: if the npd only estimates, that doesnt count all the mom and pop stores, nor a lot of retailers. So we will never know the exact number unless Sony and M$ states them. Im sorry but the NPD is pointless IMO.

LMAO. NPD is the most reliable source for sales tracking. They have their ways of getting sales data and estimating pretty accurately the data that they don't get.
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#307 mythrol
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[QUOTE="EVOLV3"]

Im curious as to how many previous 360 owners who got banned (roughly 1 million +) bought another Xbox 360.

W1NGMAN-

Judging by the numbers .... a lot.

Explain to me how the 360 has the highest attach ratio of any console if there were so many people buying a 2nd 360? This is a myth made up by cows to try and cover over the sales figures of the 360. They just can't accept the drop from 1st to last place this gen.
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#308 stereointegrity
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Did not see that one coming in a million yearzz......Hmmmm, well, I think all 3 deserve a round of applouse. What a November.

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im not listening im not listening im not listenin nanananalalalalalalalalalalala

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#309 afmsquid
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Ive given up on the PS3.. I am a cow but seriously thinking about dropping the PS3 after these numbers, these numbers prove the PS3 is a dead end console and a failure.. No im not joking or being sarcastic either, the PS3 is now a POS and im being serious as a heart attack

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PS3 is still a great Blu Ray player. That's what I originally bought mine for(and Valkyria Chronicles and Warhawk).

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#310 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="KukicAdo"][QUOTE="njean777"]

WRONG, npd does not include walmart, try google next time......

njean777

:| NPD Estimates Walmarts numbers

Estimates are not exact :shock: if the npd only estimates, that doesnt count all the mom and pop stores, nor a lot of retailers. So we will never know the exact number unless Sony and M$ states them. Im sorry but the NPD is pointless IMO.

Its physically impossible to track 100% of the market. NPD gets about 60% and does calculation and extrapolation for the rest. Its actually incredibly accurate.

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#311 Nidget
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[QUOTE="Nidget"][QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

Judging by the numbers .... a lot.

W1NGMAN-

:roll: lemme guess, this is a bad thing. How dare people buy a console twice, those sales shouldn't count!

Nope just stating a logical observation.

Logical? Well first off, you have nothing to back yourself up with. Its all assumptions. Secondly, that million consoles banned number was not confirmed. Again, MORE speculation.
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#312 _SWAG_
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i really didnt want to post in this thread but something is just fishy. there has to have been a glitch or late sales figures that didnt make it on time for npd to count. the ps3 is the superior console like that 1 thread n it won the cnet head 2 head n it got the highest rated game average in 2009 on metacritc it only does everything, free wifi free online blu ray the best advertisements infamous demon souls killzone2 and uncharted2. the 360 is lucky the sales counter made a mistake, this is the last time the 360 will outsell the ps3

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#313 jessesalinas
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

Yep. Good day in SW.

Time to sit back and enjoy the fireworks.

indeed. time to open that bottle of wine i saved for 4 years. :)
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#314 Blue-Sky
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Why is the NA Gaming market getting down played?

Not only is it the most important market for the industry but it's larger than European and Japanese markests combined. It has the most open-minded consumers and accounts for a large percent of game industry revenue.

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#315 heysharpshooter
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[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

So much ownage. I love it. I can't believe after all the crap, it ends like this.

jessesalinas

i agree :)

Whats doubly funny about it is that cows are going back to the "sales don't matter" line, after hyping November as the turning point.

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#316 furomaster_99
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what i dont understand is how these are exact numbers when MS didnt give out any of there black friday sales numbers....if the rumors are true they sold 250-300k systems on black friday are we to believe that they sold 500k for the rest of the month? shenanigans i say! :P:lol:stereointegrity
Well, MS was caught "channel stuffing" in 2007 to inflate sales. The banned users? Yep, MS resorts to pretty much anything for sales IMO.

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#317 lundy86_4
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i really didnt want to post in this thread but something is just fishy. there has to have been a glitch or late sales figures that didnt make it on time for npd to count. the ps3 is the superior console like that 1 thread n it won the cnet head 2 head n it got the highest rated game average in 2009 on metacritc it only does everything, free wifi free online blu ray the best advertisements infamous demon souls killzone2 and uncharted2. the 360 is lucky the sales counter made a mistake, this is the last time the 360 will outsell the ps3

_SWAG_

Yes, that sounds thoroughly logical.

Or it's just that the 360 outsold the PS3 fairly.

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#318 789shadow
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i really didnt want to post in this thread but something is just fishy. there has to have been a glitch or late sales figures that didnt make it on time for npd to count. the ps3 is the superior console like that 1 thread n it won the cnet head 2 head n it got the highest rated game average in 2009 on metacritc it only does everything, free wifi free online blu ray the best advertisements infamous demon souls killzone2 and uncharted2. the 360 is lucky the sales counter made a mistake, this is the last time the 360 will outsell the ps3

_SWAG_

Sir, I've sent more damage control engines to your position. Looks like you'll need them.

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#319 mgkennedy5
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I think most of that has to do with MW2, but that's just my thoughts. And people re-buying consoles who got bricked perhaps...
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#320 sonny2dap
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i really didnt want to post in this thread but something is just fishy. there has to have been a glitch or late sales figures that didnt make it on time for npd to count. the ps3 is the superior console like that 1 thread n it won the cnet head 2 head n it got the highest rated game average in 2009 on metacritc it only does everything, free wifi free online blu ray the best advertisements infamous demon souls killzone2 and uncharted2. the 360 is lucky the sales counter made a mistake, this is the last time the 360 will outsell the ps3

_SWAG_
conspiracy pic please
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#321 KukicAdo
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Why is the NA Gaming market getting down played?

Not only is it the most important market for the industry but it's larger than European and Japanese markests combined. It has the most open-minded consumers and accounts for a large percent of game industry revenue.

Blue-Sky
Because the PS3 didn't outsell the 360. Had it outsold it, even by 1, there would be much rejoicing and hundreds of 360 is finished threads. But since the exact opposite happened, the natural damage control is to discredit the event and downplay it as much as possible. All fanboys do this.
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#322 taj7575
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Not too surprising. Besides black friday, the 360 sold more.

Don't forget the bannings and the walmart deal ($200 360 w/100 dollar gift card)

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#324 789shadow
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[QUOTE="_SWAG_"]

i really didnt want to post in this thread but something is just fishy. there has to have been a glitch or late sales figures that didnt make it on time for npd to count. the ps3 is the superior console like that 1 thread n it won the cnet head 2 head n it got the highest rated game average in 2009 on metacritc it only does everything, free wifi free online blu ray the best advertisements infamous demon souls killzone2 and uncharted2. the 360 is lucky the sales counter made a mistake, this is the last time the 360 will outsell the ps3

sonny2dap

conspiracy pic please

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You're welcome.

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#325 KukicAdo
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[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]what i dont understand is how these are exact numbers when MS didnt give out any of there black friday sales numbers....if the rumors are true they sold 250-300k systems on black friday are we to believe that they sold 500k for the rest of the month? shenanigans i say! :P:lol:furomaster_99

Well, MS was caught "channel stuffing" in 2007 to inflate sales. The banned users? Yep, MS resorts to pretty much anything for sales IMO.

Channel Stuffing is when a company ships more to retailers, thus stuffing the stores, has no impact on NPD since it counts sold to consumers numbers ;)
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#326 Silverbond
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[QUOTE="_SWAG_"]

i really didnt want to post in this thread but something is just fishy. there has to have been a glitch or late sales figures that didnt make it on time for npd to count. the ps3 is the superior console like that 1 thread n it won the cnet head 2 head n it got the highest rated game average in 2009 on metacritc it only does everything, free wifi free online blu ray the best advertisements infamous demon souls killzone2 and uncharted2. the 360 is lucky the sales counter made a mistake, this is the last time the 360 will outsell the ps3

lundy86_4

Yes, that sounds thoroughly logical.

Or it's just that the 360 outsold the PS3 fairly.

You and I both know that's impossible!

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#327 RobbRipken
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I prefer the 360, so I'm glad it did well. I did expect the PS3 to do better than it did, since I personally think it had the better year. In any event, I think that this was the PS3's best year, and 360's worst year. I'm curious to know what it will be like next year, when M$ really makes moreof an effort to put out big games. Ironically, next yearM$ probably won't move that many consoles, and then we'll all be sitting here trying to figure that one out.

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#328 sonny2dap
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thankin you shadow, and lol at some of the posts in here.
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#329 def_mode
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A lot of modded 360's were banned, so this could be one of the reasons why theres a huge boost in 360 sales.

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#330 TintedEyes
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Guess banning a million people helped to fluff the 360's sales in November. December will probably be a different story.
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#331 micky4889
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[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

[QUOTE="EVOLV3"]

Im curious as to how many previous 360 owners who got banned (roughly 1 million +) bought another Xbox 360.

mythrol

Judging by the numbers .... a lot.

Explain to me how the 360 has the highest attach ratio of any console if there were so many people buying a 2nd 360? This is a myth made up by cows to try and cover over the sales figures of the 360. They just can't accept the drop from 1st to last place this gen.

Link to "highest attach ratio of any console" ? Maybe this gen but the last gen the PS2 had an 11. something attach rate around when it hit the 80 million mark.
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#332 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="_SWAG_"]

i really didnt want to post in this thread but something is just fishy. there has to have been a glitch or late sales figures that didnt make it on time for npd to count. the ps3 is the superior console like that 1 thread n it won the cnet head 2 head n it got the highest rated game average in 2009 on metacritc it only does everything, free wifi free online blu ray the best advertisements infamous demon souls killzone2 and uncharted2. the 360 is lucky the sales counter made a mistake, this is the last time the 360 will outsell the ps3

Silverbond

Yes, that sounds thoroughly logical.

Or it's just that the 360 outsold the PS3 fairly.

You and I both know that's impossible!

My God you're right.

Something strange is afoot Watson...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Paget_holmes.png

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#333 PrimusGears
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wow it makes me sick, no one is owning up to the fact that the 360 is a great console, every cow is saying it is a conspiracy or that this is because the 360 banned users who illegally modded their xbox. If cows cant own up now they never will, they are officially the less credible of the fanboys.

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#334 jessesalinas
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[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

[QUOTE="jessesalinas"][QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

So much ownage. I love it. I can't believe after all the crap, it ends like this.

i agree :)

Whats doubly funny about it is that cows are going back to the "sales don't matter" line, after hyping November as the turning point.

agreed. :)
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#335 Shinobi120
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Why is the NA Gaming market getting down played?

Not only is it the most important market for the industry but it's larger than European and Japanese markets combined. It has the most open-minded consumers and accounts for a large percent of game industry revenue.

Blue-Sky

Because Cows don't want to accept the truth that their beloved console got outsold by the 360 & will want to try to spin their way out of it by saying things like: "The only reason 360's got more sales is because of the bans!," etc. Plus bans had nothing to do with it, as people can still play their consoles. They just can't get on X-Box Live anymore.

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#336 ToScA-
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i really didnt want to post in this thread but something is just fishy. there has to have been a glitch or late sales figures that didnt make it on time for npd to count. the ps3 is the superior console like that 1 thread n it won the cnet head 2 head n it got the highest rated game average in 2009 on metacritc it only does everything, free wifi free online blu ray the best advertisements infamous demon souls killzone2 and uncharted2. the 360 is lucky the sales counter made a mistake, this is the last time the 360 will outsell the ps3

_SWAG_
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#337 jessesalinas
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wow it makes me sick, no one is owning up to the fact that the 360 is a great console, every cow is saying it is a conspiracy or that this is because the 360 banned users who illegally modded their xbox. If cows cant own up now they never will, they are officially the less credible of the fanboys.

PrimusGears
i agree with this as well :)
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#338 RobbRipken
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PS3's 2010 lineup = GOW3, GT5, Last Guardian, Modnation Racers, Heavy Rain, others

How will M$ be able to compete with that?? The Answer: Halo: Reach :-P

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#339 TheOldOlder
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Guess banning a million people helped to fluff the 360's sales in November. December will probably be a different story.TintedEyes
Im with you on this one, in December we dine on top of RROD'ed 360s.
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#340 dsmccracken
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I'm sorry, but the story here is not that the PS3 sold worse than the 360, or that it dropped so soon after a price drop and the Slim launch. The story here is, as it has been all along, the continued Wii dominance. You people are like Uruguay and Paraguay duking it out for world dominance, completely unaware that the U.S. exists....
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#342 micky4889
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Why is the NA Gaming market getting down played?

Not only is it the most important market for the industry but it's larger than European and Japanese markests combined. It has the most open-minded consumers and accounts for a large percent of game industry revenue.

Blue-Sky

More revenue than Europe and Japan combined you say ?

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#343 deactivated-5e7be39d87e0b
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wow it makes me sick, no one is owning up to the fact that the 360 is a great console, every cow is saying it is a conspiracy or that this is because the 360 banned users who illegally modded their xbox. If cows cant own up now they never will, they are officially the less credible of the fanboys.

PrimusGears

Why care? Whatever they have to tell themselves to make them feel better.............

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#344 Greyfeld
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I don't have a current gen console yet (hope to have one in a couple weeks), so I'm not exactly on one side or the other. But to be completely honest, if you want to know why Xbox is selling so much better than the PS3, all you have to do is look at XBL. Since multiplayer is becoming such a huge force in the gaming industry, it would only make sense that the console with the larger online community will continue to sell more consoles. XBL has a few years lead over the PSN. Until the status quo changes, Microsoft will continue leading Sony in the console market, sad to say.
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#345 Silverbond
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PS3's 2010 lineup = GOW3, GT5, Last Guardian, Modnation Racers, Heavy Rain, others

How will M$ be able to compete with that?? The Answer: Halo: Reach :-P

RobbRipken

Because the 360 only has one upcoming exclusive....

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#346 dsmccracken
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A lot of modded 360's were banned, so this could be one of the reasons why theres a huge boost in 360 sales.

def_mode
Maybe.... or maybe the 360 just sells well in this region.
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#347 jessesalinas
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[QUOTE="bez2083"]

[QUOTE="PrimusGears"]

wow it makes me sick, no one is owning up to the fact that the 360 is a great console, every cow is saying it is a conspiracy or that this is because the 360 banned users who illegally modded their xbox. If cows cant own up now they never will, they are officially the less credible of the fanboys.

Why care? Whatever they have to tell themselves to make them feel better.............

100% True
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#348 CanYouDiglt
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I did not think the PS3 would sell more then the 360 and so I am not shocked. I am shocked though at how the PS3 fans seem to be taking this. This thread almost brings a tear to my eye of happiness after reading these posts :lol:
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[QUOTE="PrimusGears"]

wow it makes me sick, no one is owning up to the fact that the 360 is a great console, every cow is saying it is a conspiracy or that this is because the 360 banned users who illegally modded their xbox. If cows cant own up now they never will, they are officially the less credible of the fanboys.

jessesalinas
i agree with this as well :)

A thing doesn't have to sell a lot to be considered good or bad. The only fact is that the PS3 owns the 360 in games, reliability and awesomeness. Oh yes :)