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#1  Edited By regnaston
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Just a few tidbits from a VERY Long twitter thread by Mat (I suggest you follow him for more details). On the last tweet I suspect when the PSVR2 is released it will outsell the Elite Series 2 initially

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I like my Elite Series 2 controller a lot, but it feels a bit heavier than my other controllers.

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Forgot this one.. supply remains an issue for HW

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Nice to see the Series consoles doing well. Hopefully these supply constraints will start easing relatively soon and we’ll start seeing some Series X’s on store shelves. Would love to pick one up myself. Kudos to FromSoftware on the success of Elden Ring. It truly is a fantastic game.

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#5 dabear
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@regnaston: Oh... so, is this why the cows made another Halo thread - the butthurt over Xbox outselling Playstation in NA?

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#6 simple-facts
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Sales ZZZZzzzzzzz

Cows who wank over sales will be along shortly to give it the "lems care about sales now" and "bu bu bu stock availability"

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#7 SecretPolice
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Millions of 360 owners who went PS4 cow last gen are leaving the dark side and coming back to Xbox in yuuuge herds...

lol :P

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Uh oh, now cows are saying that sales don't matter! WATCH OUT!

Oh, and thank you Phil!

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Kinda shocked the Switch still won. I thought Xbox would have won March for sure.

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Kinda shocked the Switch still won. I thought Xbox would have won March for sure.

Switch is BEAST!

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This is why I said we needed to wait for the NPD before calling Horizon dead. Top 3 YTD and top 5 for March. That kinda disproves the narrative going around on this board and Twitter…

I see a lot of Nintendo and Sony made games on those lists. Where are the Xbox games??? Y’all said you’re still buying them… Wouldn’t know from the charts…

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Really wish Nintendo would share their digital sales with NPD. Their games do so well even just using the physical numbers but it would interesting to see how they chart with the complete sales numbers.

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#13 TheEroica
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Steam Deck won my heart this month... NPD reporting.

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Where are the Xbox games??? Y’all said you’re still buying them… Wouldn’t know from the charts…

I see Minecraft on the list. Xbox Game Studios has 238,000,000 sold so far.

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@x_hedon: What does that mean? How was GT7 supposed to help sell more of a console that is sold out? That logic doesn’t make any sense

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@x_hedon: What does that mean? How was GT7 supposed to help sell more of a console that is sold out? That logic doesn’t make any sense

No idea. But I have been seeing notifications of more and more PS5s being available the past couple months. Not sure how that is panning out related to GT7. It's the best selling GT, dollar wise, for the GT series ever in the US. But it's also the first 2 platform GT game.

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#18 hardwenzen
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Hell yea mah Elden Ring is destroying. @blaznwiipspman1 is kinda mad at the moment.

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These record sales are attributed to Halo Infinite and Forza Horizon 5. BOOM!

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@x_hedon said:

These record sales are attributed to Halo Infinite and Forza Horizon 5. BOOM!

OK, so where did Halo Infinite and FH5 chart? 🧐

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#21  Edited By dabear
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Do those charts include Game Pass downloads?

@goldenelementxl said:

This is why I said we needed to wait for the NPD before calling Horizon dead. Top 3 YTD and top 5 for March. That kinda disproves the narrative going around on this board and Twitter…

I see a lot of Nintendo and Sony made games on those lists. Where are the Xbox games??? Y’all said you’re still buying them… Wouldn’t know from the charts…

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@goldenelementxl: You are expecting Xbox games to be listed on the NPD when no new games were released in the timeframe? Are you really thinking objectively or even clearly? That is ignoring the fact that every Xbox game is going to be on Gamepass.

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#23 hardwenzen
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Looks like lems are buying less exclusives than sheep buying 3rd party titles. Never have i thought of seeing this. Its pathetic.

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#24 Mesome713
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Wow, Xbox continuing to destroy Sony and it’s games havnt even released yet. This is embarrassing. Go team America!

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@hardwenzen said:

Looks like lems are buying less exclusives than sheep buying 3rd party titles. Never have i thought of seeing this. Its pathetic.

Why on earth would lems buy exclusives when Gamepass exists?

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Damn, best selling game on Xbox is a Japanese games. But I thought Xbox gamers didn't buy Japanese games?

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@Pedro said:

@goldenelementxl: You are expecting Xbox games to be listed on the NPD when no new games were released in the timeframe? Are you really thinking objectively or even clearly? That is ignoring the fact that every Xbox game is going to be on Gamepass.

Except there are plenty of games on those lists that didn’t launch in March. Or 2022. Or 2021…

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@dabear said:

Do those charts include Game Pass downloads?

@goldenelementxl said:

This is why I said we needed to wait for the NPD before calling Horizon dead. Top 3 YTD and top 5 for March. That kinda disproves the narrative going around on this board and Twitter…

I see a lot of Nintendo and Sony made games on those lists. Where are the Xbox games??? Y’all said you’re still buying them… Wouldn’t know from the charts…

Yeah I was looking for Game Pass on those SALES charts. I came up empty.

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@sealionact said:
@hardwenzen said:

Looks like lems are buying less exclusives than sheep buying 3rd party titles. Never have i thought of seeing this. Its pathetic.

Why on earth would lems buy exclusives when Gamepass exists?

Nice excuse, lemming. You buy games to own them, not rent them. Lems don't do that. Pathetic.

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#30  Edited By Pedro  Online
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@goldenelementxl said:

Except there are plenty of games on those lists that didn’t launch in March. Or 2022. Or 2021…

You mean like Microsoft's Minecraft or are you talking about the Nintendo games that frequently charts? Did you also ignore the rest of my comment or is it an inconvenience to your agenda? 😎

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@hardwenzen said:
@sealionact said:
@hardwenzen said:

Looks like lems are buying less exclusives than sheep buying 3rd party titles. Never have i thought of seeing this. Its pathetic.

Why on earth would lems buy exclusives when Gamepass exists?

Nice excuse, lemming. You buy games to own them, not rent them. Lems don't do that. Pathetic.

‘Course we don’t buy them if they’re available on GP. That’s why Sony are launching their joke of a subscription service without day 1 exclusives…..sales of ps5 exclusives would dive if they included as much quality on PSPlus as there is on Gamepass.

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@sealionact said:
@hardwenzen said:
@sealionact said:
@hardwenzen said:

Looks like lems are buying less exclusives than sheep buying 3rd party titles. Never have i thought of seeing this. Its pathetic.

Why on earth would lems buy exclusives when Gamepass exists?

Nice excuse, lemming. You buy games to own them, not rent them. Lems don't do that. Pathetic.

‘Course we don’t buy them if they’re available on GP. That’s why Sony are launching their joke of a subscription service without day 1 exclusives…..sales of ps5 exclusives would dive if they included as much quality on PSPlus as there is on Gamepass.

Sony is not stupid enough to have a GP-like service, sorry.

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#33  Edited By Mesome713
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Sony had GT7, HW, and Elden Ring and still got destroyed by Xbox. Wow. Sony even had all those bundles with GT7 and HW included in these charts.

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@mesome713 said:

Wow, Xbox continuing to destroy Sony and it’s games havnt even released yet. This is embarrassing. Go team America!

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#35 Mesome713
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@blaznwiipspman1: F yeah!

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@SecretPolice: I was one of the those 360 guys who went 360 to PS4 and now back to SX.

I picked mine up last month here in the US.

Feels good to be back frfr.

I'm on PC alot too and gamepass and play anywhere is very clutch.

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#37 Mesome713
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@sargentd: Heck yeah, thank you for helping kick Sonys arse.

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@Pedro said:
@goldenelementxl said:

Except there are plenty of games on those lists that didn’t launch in March. Or 2022. Or 2021…

You mean like Microsoft's Minecraft or are you talking about the Nintendo games that frequently charts? Did you also ignore the rest of my comment or is it an inconvenience to your agenda? 😎

So you’re saying Game Pass has a negative impact on software sales?

Whos agenda is that inconvenient to?

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@goldenelementxl said:
@Pedro said:
@goldenelementxl said:

Except there are plenty of games on those lists that didn’t launch in March. Or 2022. Or 2021…

You mean like Microsoft's Minecraft or are you talking about the Nintendo games that frequently charts? Did you also ignore the rest of my comment or is it an inconvenience to your agenda? 😎

So you’re saying Game Pass has a negative impact on software sales?

Whos agenda is that inconvenient to?

So, you are now deflecting. 😂🤣

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Happy to see Xbox performing better than ps

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@Pedro said:

@goldenelementxl: You are expecting Xbox games to be listed on the NPD when no new games were released in the timeframe? Are you really thinking objectively or even clearly? That is ignoring the fact that every Xbox game is going to be on Gamepass.

@Pedro said:
@goldenelementxl said:

You mean like Microsoft's Minecraft or are you talking about the Nintendo games that frequently charts? Did you also ignore the rest of my comment or is it an inconvenience to your agenda? 😎

So you’re saying Game Pass has a negative impact on software sales?

Whos agenda is that inconvenient to?

So, you are now deflecting. 😂🤣

I’m not deflecting. You brought up Game Pass… Im trying to understand your defense here… Xbox Games other than the multiplat Minecraft don’t chart because of Game Pass, right?

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#42  Edited By Pedro  Online
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@goldenelementxl said:
@Pedro said:

@goldenelementxl: You are expecting Xbox games to be listed on the NPD when no new games were released in the timeframe? Are you really thinking objectively or even clearly? That is ignoring the fact that every Xbox game is going to be on Gamepass.

@Pedro said:
@goldenelementxl said:

You mean like Microsoft's Minecraft or are you talking about the Nintendo games that frequently charts? Did you also ignore the rest of my comment or is it an inconvenience to your agenda? 😎

So you’re saying Game Pass has a negative impact on software sales?

Whos agenda is that inconvenient to?

So, you are now deflecting. 😂🤣

I’m not deflecting. You brought up Game Pass… Im trying to understand your defense here… Xbox Games other than the multiplat Minecraft don’t chart because of Game Pass, right?

You are deflecting. You are expecting to see Xbox games on NPD despite no new games, while conveniently ignoring the fact that Minecraft is on the list and that Xbox games are on Gamepass. My comment was very clear a direct counter to you foolish comment. Now, that you have been made to look like a fool you are deflecting as a form of defense. Please continue spinning.😎

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@hardwenzen said:
@sealionact said:
@hardwenzen said:
@sealionact said:
@hardwenzen said:

Looks like lems are buying less exclusives than sheep buying 3rd party titles. Never have i thought of seeing this. Its pathetic.

Why on earth would lems buy exclusives when Gamepass exists?

Nice excuse, lemming. You buy games to own them, not rent them. Lems don't do that. Pathetic.

‘Course we don’t buy them if they’re available on GP. That’s why Sony are launching their joke of a subscription service without day 1 exclusives…..sales of ps5 exclusives would dive if they included as much quality on PSPlus as there is on Gamepass.

Sony is not stupid enough to have a GP-like service, sorry.

I guess that thinking explains why we’re reading a thread about Xbox outselling PS….Never mind, your next one-and-done 70 buck eksloosif is a mere 7 months away.


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@sealionact said:
@hardwenzen said:
@sealionact said:
@hardwenzen said:
@sealionact said:

Why on earth would lems buy exclusives when Gamepass exists?

Nice excuse, lemming. You buy games to own them, not rent them. Lems don't do that. Pathetic.

‘Course we don’t buy them if they’re available on GP. That’s why Sony are launching their joke of a subscription service without day 1 exclusives…..sales of ps5 exclusives would dive if they included as much quality on PSPlus as there is on Gamepass.

Sony is not stupid enough to have a GP-like service, sorry.

I guess that thinking explains why we’re reading a thread about Xbox outselling PS….Never mind, your next one-and-done 70 buck eksloosif is a mere 7 months away.

Cows kept saying the Series S was just sitting on shelves. I guess they were right! The shelves in TV stands 😂

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@Pedro said:

You are deflecting. You are expecting to see Xbox games on NPD despite no new games, while conveniently ignoring the fact that Minecraft is on the list and that Xbox games are on Gamepass. My comment was very clear a direct counter to you foolish comment. Now, that you have been made to look like a fool you are deflecting as a form of defense. Please continue spinning.😎

You really don’t see yourself as the one spinning? Old Nintendo games charted. PS games from 2018 and 2020 charted. Yet you come in here in your Maytag dryer, spinning furiously… The only valid point you have is Game Pass, but you won’t say the service has a negative impact on sales. Why? And you can’t use digital games not counting in NPD, because Nintendo doesn’t report them either. Yet here we are, with 6-7 Nintendo games, some 4-5 years old, charting…

Spin away!

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You really don’t see yourself as the one spinning? Old Nintendo games charted. PS games from 2018 and 2020 charted. Yet you come in here in your Maytag dryer, spinning furiously… The only valid point you have is Game Pass, but you won’t say the service has a negative impact on sales. Why? And you can’t use digital games not counting in NPD, because Nintendo doesn’t report them either. Yet here we are, with 6-7 Nintendo games, some 4-5 years old, charting…

Spin away!

You are deflecting again. You are expecting to see Xbox games on NPD despite no new games, while conveniently ignoring the fact that Minecraft is on the list and that Xbox games are on Gamepass. My comment was very clear and direct counter to your foolish comment. Now, that you have been made to look like a fool you are deflecting as a form of defense. Please continue spinning.😎

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@Pedro: You’re so into “winning” here that you’ve created an alternate reality where bringing up Game Pass as a defense to poor sales, while also ignoring Game Pass as the reason for poor sales, is a valid argument… That is a prime example of spinning. You could teach spin classes at this point

Yes, I missed Minecraft. A game that’s studio was bought out by Xbox 3 years after the game launched. But hey, at least one of their acquisitions is paying off! Somebody has to actually sell some games over there…

And again, we are seeing 4-5 year old Nintendo games charting, while there are also newer games, also charting… You sure have to ignore a lot of information in order to make your argument “work.” And even then, it requires a ton of disingenuous takes

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@goldenelementxl said:

@Pedro: You’re so into “winning” here that you’ve created an alternate reality where bringing up Game Pass as a defense to poor sales, while also ignoring Game Pass as the reason for poor sales, is a valid argument… That is a prime example of spinning. You could teach spin classes at this point

Yes, I missed Minecraft. A game that’s studio was bought out by Xbox 3 years after the game launched. But hey, at least one of their acquisitions is paying off! Somebody has to actually sell some games over there…

You are deflecting again. You are expecting to see Xbox games on NPD despite no new games, while conveniently ignoring the fact that Minecraft is on the list and that Xbox games are on Gamepass. My comment was very clear and direct counter to your foolish comment. Now, that you have been made to look like a fool you are deflecting as a form of defense. Please continue spinning.😎

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@goldenelementxl: *sigh* for the nth time, define "negative imact".. Xbox Games Studios titles still chart at the top during launch months.. and in the following months, all games tend to fall off (Nintendo being the obvious exception because, well .. it's Nintendo)..

Now do Xbox Games Studios titles have less legs in the following months?.. maybe.. there's certainly a case to be made there.. but Microsoft is just as concerned, if not more concerned, about growing Game Pass subs in comparison to per-unit sales..

so looking at it from that standpoint, lets compare:

Xbox Game Studios titles tend to chart in launch months.. they tend to fall off in following months but Game Pass subs are at over 25 million due (likely) to the inclusion of Day One first-party content..

PlayStation Studios titles tend to chart in launch months.. they tend to have much less of a fall off in the following months but PS Now has failed at only about 3 million subs (likely) due to the lack of including Day One first-party content..

so if Microsoft wants to grow Game Pass as a major part of their gaming platform, and Day One content is the key to achieving that, where is the "negative impact"?.. games are still selling, Game Pass is still growing, and their consoles are in high demand.. i mean, what am i missing?.. should we be "concerned" about something?. 🤔

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Member since 2016 • 9129 Posts

@Pedro said:

You are deflecting again. You are expecting to see Xbox games on NPD despite no new games, while conveniently ignoring the fact thatMinecraftis on the list and that Xbox games are on Gamepass. My comment was very clear and direct counter to your foolish comment. Now, that you have been made to look like a fool you are deflecting as a form of defense. Please continue spinning.😎

And again, Nintendo has old games, new games, all charting. PS has old games, new games, charting. Xbox has a game they had nothing to do with the production of, as their sole representation on the NPDs. Congrats?

Im not the one spinning… Not even close