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Look at Skyrim, it is everything Zelda should be. If Zelda was like Skyrim it would have depth, a mature story, a wide open world to explore. There would be more quests and none of this kiddy difficulty. The combat wouldn't suck or be clunky. I can tell just by videos alone that the controls suck. It could even be multiplatform so real controllers can be used, like the 360 controller. Imagine Zelda with HD graphics with trophies/acheivements. It wouldn't have to be a western dev for every franchise. Nintendo could let Capcom develop the smash series. Turn it into a real fighter and not just a brawler. Just look at the Metroid series for example it sucked before Retro took over. No other Metroid game comes close to the Prime games. In conclusion Nintendo could still make hardware but let other devs, preferably western, work on their games.
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:lol: x99

Just... :lol:

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#3 turtlethetaffer
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Majora's Mask has one of themost mature stories ever. Zelda doesn't need to be an M rated, glitchy RPG.

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Dumbass

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#5 Giancar
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Both games can co exsit, as both games are just simply put....awesome
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I miss funny trolls :( This is not one of them.

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#7 DJ-Lafleur
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Super Metroid > Any of the Metroid Prime games.

And also hell no.

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Super Metroid > Any of the Metroid Prime games.

And also hell no.

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I saw vids of Super Metroid on youtube. I almost fell asleep.
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Majora's Mask has one of themost mature stories ever. Zelda doesn't need to be an M rated, glitchy RPG.

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Let me guess saving some princess from an evil wizard?
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#10 mmmwksil
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[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

Super Metroid > Any of the Metroid Prime games.

And also hell no.

Barsy7

I saw vids of Super Metroid on youtube. I almost fell asleep.

This is too funny. :lol:

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#11 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

Majora's Mask has one of themost mature stories ever. Zelda doesn't need to be an M rated, glitchy RPG.

Barsy7

Let me guess saving some princess from an evil wizard?

Nope you're trying to stop the moon from crashing into a town and you need to relive the same 3 days. There's more to it than that though. Look it up. Zelda is mentioned once and Ganondorf is never even mentioned.

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#12 DJ-Lafleur
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Hurrrrrr durrrrrr topic.

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#13 simomate
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... another... wait let me emphaise this, ANOTHER topic comparing SKYRIM with ZELDA. The two are completelty differernt games trying to achieve completely differernt things. Completely differernt genre, completely differernt experience.

Just... no.

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#14 ImSwordMan
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No, no, no, a thousand times no

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zNjQecyjE8

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[QUOTE="Barsy7"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

Majora's Mask has one of themost mature stories ever. Zelda doesn't need to be an M rated, glitchy RPG.

turtlethetaffer

Let me guess saving some princess from an evil wizard?

Nope you're trying to stop the moon from crashing into a town and you need to relive the same 3 days. There's more to it than that though. Look it up. Zelda is mentioned once and Ganondorf is never even mentioned.

And the final boss is some evil wizard?
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... another... wait let me emphaise this, ANOTHER topic comparing SKYRIM with ZELDA. The two are completelty differernt games trying to achieve completely differernt things. Completely differernt genre, completely differernt experience.

Just... no.

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Aren't they both adventure games. Skyrim is the better adventure game.
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Btw your sig is very ironic TC :lol:

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#18 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="Barsy7"] Let me guess saving some princess from an evil wizard?Barsy7

Nope you're trying to stop the moon from crashing into a town and you need to relive the same 3 days. There's more to it than that though. Look it up. Zelda is mentioned once and Ganondorf is never even mentioned.

And the final boss is some evil wizard?

Nope it's this guy.

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[QUOTE="simomate"]

... another... wait let me emphaise this, ANOTHER topic comparing SKYRIM with ZELDA. The two are completelty differernt games trying to achieve completely differernt things. Completely differernt genre, completely differernt experience.

Just... no.

Barsy7

Aren't they both adventure games. Skyrim is the better adventure game.

No, Skyrim is an RPG, how can you not know such simple things?

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#20 Barsy7
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[QUOTE="Barsy7"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

Nope you're trying to stop the moon from crashing into a town and you need to relive the same 3 days. There's more to it than that though. Look it up. Zelda is mentioned once and Ganondorf is never even mentioned.

turtlethetaffer

And the final boss is some evil wizard?

Nope it's this guy.

I see no picture. Edit: nevermind
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One look at your sig and I can tell your an anti-nintendo fanboy which means you are not open minded, open minded gamers play all genre's including Nintendo's which you obvously don't. And maybe some of us don't want a mature zelda and it's impossible to tell by videos alone that SS sucks and it has some serious depth, thats obviously the game you are talking about, and zelda will never be multiplatform, nintendo has said they would rather be dead, then multiplatform, and capcom developing samsh bros,I for one want Smash to stay a brawler because I hate "real fighters" as you call them. And Metroid was way past its prime when Metroid Primes was released(see what i did there :D ) You obviously are just a troll with no idea what your talking about.
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[QUOTE="Barsy7"][QUOTE="simomate"]

... another... wait let me emphaise this, ANOTHER topic comparing SKYRIM with ZELDA. The two are completelty differernt games trying to achieve completely differernt things. Completely differernt genre, completely differernt experience.

Just... no.

WreckEm711

Aren't they both adventure games. Skyrim is the better adventure game.

No, Skyrim is an RPG, how can you not know such simple things?

It is still leagues ahead of anything Zelda has done.
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#23 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="Barsy7"] And the final boss is some evil wizard?Barsy7

Nope it's this guy.

I see no picture. Edit: nevermind

So yeah it's pretty unique and daring. No other game is like it.

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One look at your sig and I can tell your an anti-nintendo fanboy which means you are not open minded, open minded gamers play all genre's including Nintendo's which you obvously don't. And maybe some of us don't want a mature zelda and it's impossible to tell by videos alone that SS sucks and it has some serious depth, thats obviously the game you are talking about, and zelda will never be multiplatform, nintendo has said they would rather be dead, then multiplatform, and capcom developing samsh bros,I for one want Smash to stay a brawler because I hate "real fighters" as you call them. And Metroid was way past its prime when Metroid Primes was released(see what i did there :D ) You obviously are just a troll with no idea what your talking about.layton2012
I do know what I'm talking about and it is that Nintendo needs to evolve. They should take notes from western devs.
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[QUOTE="Barsy7"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

Nope it's this guy.

turtlethetaffer

I see no picture. Edit: nevermind

So yeah it's pretty unique and daring. No other game is like it.

Uniques? yes. Not as daring as fighting dragons.
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#26 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="layton2012"]One look at your sig and I can tell your an anti-nintendo fanboy which means you are not open minded, open minded gamers play all genre's including Nintendo's which you obvously don't. And maybe some of us don't want a mature zelda and it's impossible to tell by videos alone that SS sucks and it has some serious depth, thats obviously the game you are talking about, and zelda will never be multiplatform, nintendo has said they would rather be dead, then multiplatform, and capcom developing samsh bros,I for one want Smash to stay a brawler because I hate "real fighters" as you call them. And Metroid was way past its prime when Metroid Primes was released(see what i did there :D ) You obviously are just a troll with no idea what your talking about.Barsy7
I do know what I'm talking about and it is that Nintendo needs to evolve. They should take notes from western devs.

Um, no. They do make changes to games.

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#27 WreckEm711
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[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

[QUOTE="Barsy7"] Aren't they both adventure games. Skyrim is the better adventure game.Barsy7

No, Skyrim is an RPG, how can you not know such simple things?

It is still leagues ahead of anything Zelda has done.

I completely agree as I highly prefer Skyrim, but its like comparing a machine gun to an ice-cream cone and complaining the gun doesn't taste good, they're each out to accomplish different things.

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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="Barsy7"] I see no picture. Edit: nevermindBarsy7

So yeah it's pretty unique and daring. No other game is like it.

Uniques? yes. Not as daring as fighting dragons.

Yes because Skyrim is the first video game to have you fight dragons ever :|

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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="Barsy7"] I see no picture. Edit: nevermindBarsy7

So yeah it's pretty unique and daring. No other game is like it.

Uniques? yes. Not as daring as fighting dragons.

You do fight a huge Jungle Warrior, Giant Mechnical Goat, Huge ass fish, and Massive twin Sand Worm things, not to mention go inside an evil moon and help numerous people in a repeating three day structure. Seems pretty daring for a game that sticks to a well known formula to me.

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#30 Barsy7
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[QUOTE="Barsy7"][QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

No, Skyrim is an RPG, how can you not know such simple things?

WreckEm711

It is still leagues ahead of anything Zelda has done.

I completely agree as I highly prefer Skyrim, but its like comparing a machine gun to an ice-cream cone and complaining the gun doesn't taste good, they're each out to accomplish different things.

Both are games and should try to accomplish being fun.
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#31 mmmwksil
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Come on, guys. :P

Stop feeding him.

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#32 WreckEm711
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[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

[QUOTE="Barsy7"] It is still leagues ahead of anything Zelda has done.Barsy7

I completely agree as I highly prefer Skyrim, but its like comparing a machine gun to an ice-cream cone and complaining the gun doesn't taste good, they're each out to accomplish different things.

Both are games and should try to accomplish being fun.

And millions of people find Zelda fun, because of the type of gameplay it has. It's not trying to provide the same type of gameplay as Skyrim. It's different kind of fun

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[QUOTE="layton2012"]One look at your sig and I can tell your an anti-nintendo fanboy which means you are not open minded, open minded gamers play all genre's including Nintendo's which you obvously don't. And maybe some of us don't want a mature zelda and it's impossible to tell by videos alone that SS sucks and it has some serious depth, thats obviously the game you are talking about, and zelda will never be multiplatform, nintendo has said they would rather be dead, then multiplatform, and capcom developing samsh bros,I for one want Smash to stay a brawler because I hate "real fighters" as you call them. And Metroid was way past its prime when Metroid Primes was released(see what i did there :D ) You obviously are just a troll with no idea what your talking about.Barsy7
I do know what I'm talking about and it is that Nintendo needs to evolve. They should take notes from western devs.

What and become a generic FPS, and Nintendo is going HD sure 6 years late, what do you want them do, the only thing "great" western developer is COD which i don't even like.Retro is the only western developer that has amazed me IMO.
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[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

[QUOTE="Barsy7"] It is still leagues ahead of anything Zelda has done.Barsy7

I completely agree as I highly prefer Skyrim, but its like comparing a machine gun to an ice-cream cone and complaining the gun doesn't taste good, they're each out to accomplish different things.

Both are games and should try to accomplish being fun.

Which they both do.

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#35 DJ-Lafleur
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Come on, guys. :P

Stop feeding him.

mmmwksil

If people stopped responding to topics because of the TCs being trolls than SW would cease to exist...

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#36 Barsy7
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Come on, guys. :P

Stop feeding him.

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Oh cause I disagree with you I'm a troll?
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#37 Bigboi500
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You're just a casual bro gamer tc. Diversify and broaden your horizens and maybe one day you'll be a better gamer like myself.

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[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

Come on, guys. :P

Stop feeding him.

Barsy7

Oh cause I disagree with you I'm a troll?

Dude... your sig is trollish.

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[QUOTE="Barsy7"][QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

I completely agree as I highly prefer Skyrim, but its like comparing a machine gun to an ice-cream cone and complaining the gun doesn't taste good, they're each out to accomplish different things.

WreckEm711

Both are games and should try to accomplish being fun.

And millions of people find Zelda fun, because of the type of gameplay it has. It's not trying to provide the same type of gameplay as Skyrim. It's different kind of fun

Millions of kids.
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[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

Come on, guys. :P

Stop feeding him.

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If people stopped responding to topics because of the TCs being trolls than SW would cease to exist...

I... I can't argue with that! :o

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#41 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

[QUOTE="Barsy7"] Both are games and should try to accomplish being fun.Barsy7

And millions of people find Zelda fun, because of the type of gameplay it has. It's not trying to provide the same type of gameplay as Skyrim. It's different kind of fun

Millions of kids.

Same goes for Modern Warfare, all of the CoD games.

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[QUOTE="Barsy7"][QUOTE="layton2012"]One look at your sig and I can tell your an anti-nintendo fanboy which means you are not open minded, open minded gamers play all genre's including Nintendo's which you obvously don't. And maybe some of us don't want a mature zelda and it's impossible to tell by videos alone that SS sucks and it has some serious depth, thats obviously the game you are talking about, and zelda will never be multiplatform, nintendo has said they would rather be dead, then multiplatform, and capcom developing samsh bros,I for one want Smash to stay a brawler because I hate "real fighters" as you call them. And Metroid was way past its prime when Metroid Primes was released(see what i did there :D ) You obviously are just a troll with no idea what your talking about.layton2012
I do know what I'm talking about and it is that Nintendo needs to evolve. They should take notes from western devs.

What and become a generic FPS, and Nintendo is going HD sure 6 years late, what do you want them do, the only thing "great" western developer is COD which i don't even like.Retro is the only western developer that has amazed me IMO.

I do not feel many FPS games of today are generic. Quite different actually. Nintendo doesn't even have trophies/achievements.
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#43 Barsy7
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You're just a casual bro gamer tc. Diversify and broaden your horizens and maybe one day you'll be a better gamer like myself.

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My horizons are as broad as it gets. Can't argue against me so you use personal attacks.
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#44 Barsy7
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[QUOTE="Barsy7"][QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

And millions of people find Zelda fun, because of the type of gameplay it has. It's not trying to provide the same type of gameplay as Skyrim. It's different kind of fun

turtlethetaffer

Millions of kids.

Same goes for Modern Warfare, all of the CoD games.

Any child who plays CoD have matured much faster than their peers.
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#45 WreckEm711
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="Barsy7"] Millions of kids.Barsy7

Same goes for Modern Warfare, all of the CoD games.

Any child who plays CoD have matured much faster than their peers.

No they haven't, which is blatantly obvious if you've ever heard voicechat on Xbox live.

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#46 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="Barsy7"] Millions of kids.Barsy7

Same goes for Modern Warfare, all of the CoD games.

Any child who plays CoD have matured much faster than their peers.

Who are you? You have to be an alt, there's no way you're serious. I have a feeling you're that guy who parodies Sony fanboys.

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it's funny because nintendo already has a western studio working for them.
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[QUOTE="Barsy7"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

Same goes for Modern Warfare, all of the CoD games.

WreckEm711

Any child who plays CoD have matured much faster than their peers.

No they haven't, which is blatantly obvious if you've ever heard voicechat on Xbox live.

That is only a small minority and they were provoked.
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#49 layton2012
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[QUOTE="layton2012"][QUOTE="Barsy7"] I do know what I'm talking about and it is that Nintendo needs to evolve. They should take notes from western devs.Barsy7
What and become a generic FPS, and Nintendo is going HD sure 6 years late, what do you want them do, the only thing "great" western developer is COD which i don't even like.Retro is the only western developer that has amazed me IMO.

I do not feel many FPS games of today are generic. Quite different actually. Nintendo doesn't even have trophies/achievements.

Ohh Nintendo doesn't have trophies or achievements, NIntendo is doomed, doomed I tell you :D . And for the love of God don't tell me you think we need another FPS on the market because I can't tell the difference, the only unique ones are Mass Effect and Bioshock IMO, all the rest are generic miltary shooters IMO.
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#50 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

[QUOTE="Barsy7"] Any child who plays CoD have matured much faster than their peers.Barsy7

No they haven't, which is blatantly obvious if you've ever heard voicechat on Xbox live.

That is only a small minority and they were provoked.

Not gonna lie, this made me chuckle.