Newell: Stop Piracy by offering Superior Service

Mr. Newell has done it again and before people start saying, "Oh how many times is this man going to keep saying this?" Well to be truth, this man better keep saying it. We gamers get the idea, but those darn stubborn publishers don't.

All they can see is. Milk Here, Milk There. Hey LOOK AT THAT DRIED COW(Lem)!! Let's MILK IT SOME MORE!! and when they try to MILK the PC Gaming Bulls, the majority of the bulls won't let them, publishers start to scream out PIRATES!!!!! while Valve and Blizzard start LMAOing..

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"One thing that we have learned is that piracy is not a pricing issue. It's a service issue," he said.

"The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting anti-piracy technology to work. It's by giving those people a service that's better than what they're receiving from the pirates.

"For example, Russia. You say, oh, we're going to enter Russia, people say, you're doomed, they'll pirate everything in Russia. Russia now outside of Germany is our largest continental European market.

"But the point was, the people who are telling you that Russians pirate everything are the people who wait six months to localise their product into Russia," he continued.

"It doesn't take much in terms of providing a better service to make pirates a non-issue."--- but but, publishers need to make money? No. Give THEM MILK!!

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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-10-24-newell-stop-piracy-by-offering-superior-service

People need to listen to Newell.

in other news, we landed on the moon

btw: Eurogamer gave Uncharted 3 an 8/10ShadowDeathX

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]btw: Eurogamer gave Uncharted 3 an 8/10Mozelleple112

Bet eurogamer would matter if they gave UC3 a 10/10 huh?

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]btw: Eurogamer gave Uncharted 3 an 8/10Mozelleple112

Obligatory humorus Gabe image:

"The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting anti-piracy technology to work. It's by giving those people a service that's better than what they're receiving from the pirates." This caught me attention. Newell has one of the biggest DRM anti piracy softwares available, yet claims that anti-piracy measure don't solve anything? Remove the DRM from my steam games Newell and then I will agree with you. Until then, you're nothing but a hypocrite.SF_KiLLaMaN

Pretty much this. I tried to play Terraria on a car ride from Atlanta. And I've played Terraria on my laptop before - yet Steam wasn't having that.

Had similar problems with New Vegas on a spotty internet connection. So yeah, fix your own DRM first Newell, then start talking about everyone else.

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]"The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting anti-piracy technology to work. It's by giving those people a service that's better than what they're receiving from the pirates." This caught me attention. Newell has one of the biggest DRM anti piracy softwares available, yet claims that anti-piracy measure don't solve anything? Remove the DRM from my steam games Newell and then I will agree with you. Until then, you're nothing but a hypocrite.Kickinurass

Pretty much this. I tried to play Terraria on a car ride from Atlanta. And I've played Terraria on my laptop before - yet Steam wasn't having that.

Had similar problems with New Vegas on a spotty internet connection. So yeah, fix your own DRM first Newell, then start talking about everyone else.

offline mode? that works pretty well.

offline mode? that works pretty well.

supdotcom

Yeah, because I didn't try that :roll:

Tried four times. Log in. Start in offline mode. "Steam is not connected to the internet" or something like that, and then the only option was to hit the close button.

I eventually gave up and watched Kickass instead.

don't ever mention piracy on steam forums its insta ban... which is stupid since all I said was I had to crack my steam game because I didn't get a valid cd key from them to play a game I bought...

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]"The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting anti-piracy technology to work. It's by giving those people a service that's better than what they're receiving from the pirates." This caught me attention. Newell has one of the biggest DRM anti piracy softwares available, yet claims that anti-piracy measure don't solve anything? Remove the DRM from my steam games Newell and then I will agree with you. Until then, you're nothing but a hypocrite.MrSelf-Destruct

Pretty much this, I buy almost all my games on steam now, asides from console exclusives. Theres nothing wrong with steams "DRM" if you can even call it that, its the same as needing a ps3 to play ps3 games. But like ive already seen in this thread, theresstill people that will **** and complain about everything until its 100% the way they want it even though its usually unrealistic and selfish of them to consider it that way. Theres gotta be a compromise somewhere between publishers and the customers and steam is by far the best one.

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]"The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting anti-piracy technology to work. It's by giving those people a service that's better than what they're receiving from the pirates." This caught me attention. Newell has one of the biggest DRM anti piracy softwares available, yet claims that anti-piracy measure don't solve anything? Remove the DRM from my steam games Newell and then I will agree with you. Until then, you're nothing but a hypocrite.TheGrudge13

Oh yes, all them measures they take that ruin our experience :roll:

I love how even in this context, mention of the dreaded "Russians" can send shivers down your spine. Cold War's over wait what?

[QUOTE="supdotcom"]

offline mode? that works pretty well.

Kickinurass

Yeah, because I didn't try that :roll:

Tried four times. Log in. Start in offline mode. "Steam is not connected to the internet" or something like that, and then the only option was to hit the close button.

I eventually gave up and watched Kickass instead.

Well then its obviously not a problem with steam in general but something you did, cuzzz.... it works fine for everyone else...

He´s not wrong.

Well then its obviously not a problem with steam in general but something you did, cuzzz.... it works fine for everyone else...

bri360

Pretty much this, I buy almost all my games on steam now, asides from console exclusives. Theres nothing wrong with steams "DRM" if you can even call it that, its the same as needing a ps3 to play ps3 games. But like ive already seen in this thread, theresstill people that will **** and complain about everything until its 100% the way they want it even though its usually unrealistic and selfish of them to consider it that way. Theres gotta be a compromise somewhere between publishers and the customers and steam is by far the best one.

bri360

Needing Steam to place PC games =/= needing a PS3 to play PS3 games. I bought Deus Ex from GMG, yet I have to activate it through Steam and run it through Steam. I shouldn't need Steam to play games that have really nothing to do with Steam other than use it as DRM. There's no such thing as a Steam game :/

Furthermore, I can't sell Deus Ex back through GMG. Because Steam DRM doesn't actually allow users to have own the game. No, Valve's idea of ownership consists of tradeable TF2 hats and other bs digital items that equate to glorified avatar clothing. I'm more than willing to give Steam props for the things it does - but I'm not going to turn a blind eye to the fact that Steam DRM could be improved upon.

So true... so true.

I have converted a bunch of friends that pirated all there games, now they love steam and buy 90-100% of there games on steam.

I completely agree with Gabe, he's spot on. Steam is definitely DRM but it's one of the most useful and acceptable forms of DRM...nothing like Ubi's crap DRM or origin even, which is spyware in disguise-ware. I'd take Steam every single time above them.

Not to mention the fact that it takes only minutes to prepare your games for offline mode so basically it's a total non-issue.

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]btw: Eurogamer gave Uncharted 3 an 8/10SF_KiLLaMaN

Yes you trust Eurogamer because its the only review out of 36 AAAA and AAA reviews that are out right now and they gave it a 8.0 ? Is it because Zelda scored a 10 at Eurogamer that you trust them more ?

Defending pirates? as if they have ethics and morals.

Let me make it real clear, pirates are freeloaders, they do it because they can. They make excuses up to justify it, but they are 9 out of 10 times unfounded.

Pirates FORCED steam. Steam wouldn't exist if it wasn't for the pirates. PC gaming was better then stream can ever be. You got a full copy of a game and a CD key and that was it. PC gamers were already paying the least, PC gaming has always been great value.

If I could buy games on disc with just a CD key, how it used to be, I wouldn't entertain the idea using steam. Right now, steam is the lesser of two evils.

Don't make out as if pirates are protesting heroes. "we wont be milked and we'll stand up to the evil publishers". They DON'T WANT TO PAY. They aren't heroes, they're petty theives.

Edited: Re-read the op. Not sure if TC is defending pirates or not. Sorry for original comment if not.

This man has the right approach, I'm sick of companies whining on about shortchanging their consumer because of pirates. The games industry is bigger than it has ever been, there is more money floating about than ever. If only every company had this attitude, instead of complaining, up your game and make people love you so much they want to buy from you.

I don't think all of Gabes comments were about DRM. It was about the game itself. He says that if a developer doesn't put in the time to localize Russian games they pirate it. Developers that don't put in the time to make a proper PC version get their games pirated too.

Steam is a service, Blizzard understand this with Battle Net. EA, bless their cotton socks ;) are trying their best with Origin unfortunately their one of the prime evils and no one will ever believe they have anything but nafarious intent. Ubisoft don't have a clue and think they know better than their entire legal customer base and therefore try and alienate and crimalise them at every turn. Activision will probably take the Blizzard approach in the near future.

So what make Steam different? One simple fact - Steam games can be played offline after they've been installed and updated.

Oh!I hope no one still believes piracy is a PC exclusive, every console title can be found on torrent sites as well.

Welcome to what Pokemon has been doing for a long time, with questionable results that swing both ways.

I'm gonna have to put on my "duh" headband for this one.

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"][QUOTE="Mozelleple112"] And IGN, a site that actually matters, gave it a 10. UC3 is AAAAE then :Dtelefanatic

Yes you trust Eurogamer because its the only review out of 36 AAAA and AAA reviews that are out right now and they gave it a 8.0 ? Is it because Zelda scored a 10 at Eurogamer that you trust them more ?

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]btw: Eurogamer gave Uncharted 3 an 8/10Mozelleple112

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]"The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting anti-piracy technology to work. It's by giving those people a service that's better than what they're receiving from the pirates." This caught me attention. Newell has one of the biggest DRM anti piracy softwares available, yet claims that anti-piracy measure don't solve anything? Remove the DRM from my steam games Newell and then I will agree with you. Until then, you're nothing but a hypocrite.SF_KiLLaMaN

are you talking about steam or other companies' drm?

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"] the DRM on steamworks games is non-intrusive. it irritates me to no end that people like you even complain about it. why exactly is it such a nuisance?princeofshapeir

are you talking about steam or other companies' drm?

People still listen to Newell? I like the guy but he contradicts himself all the time, especially in regards to Steam.

He is right to a point, but I don't think that alone stops piracy.SaltyMeatballs

People still listen to Newell? I like the guy but he contradicts himself all the time, especially in regards to Steam.

Whiteblade999

Well hes effectively the most succesfull developer in the gaming industry, hes obviously doing something right.

A whole bunch o pirates complaining in this thread... :|

and when they try to MILK the PC Gaming Bulls, the majority of the bulls won't let them, publishers start to scream out PIRATES!!!!! while Valve and Blizzard start LMAOing..

ShadowDeathX

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]

and when they try to MILK the PC Gaming Bulls, the majority of the bulls won't let them, publishers start to scream out PIRATES!!!!! while Valve and Blizzard start LMAOing..

lowe0