Look at these beauties:shock:
http://www.destructoid.com/elephant/photo-m.phtml?post_key=118963
What do you think? I think they look pretty damn good for a console title, let the hype begin!
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Relax, PR shots only have AA differences, so PR shots do look sharper with less jags. The detail is all there, that won't change. Hell, Uncharted 1 is proof. If anyone can pull it off its Naughty dog. People need to stop using these PR shots excuses, they are ACTUAL shots of the game, they arn't CGI or BS. Learn the difference.PR bull-shots.
But impresive PR bull-shots nonetheless.
Could Uncharted 2 actually rival KZ2 in the graphics dept?
stvee101
Bull shots or not, I am sure U2 will look amazing once released, the 1st game in the series is still in my top 3 best looking games on consoles.. (and its not in 3rd place :P )
[QUOTE="stvee101"]Relax, PR shots only have AA differences, so PR shots do look sharper with less jags. The detail is all there, that won't change. Hell, Uncharted 1 is proof. If anyone can pull it off its Naughty dog. People need to stop using these PR shots excuses, they are ACTUAL shots of the game, they arn't CGI or BS. Learn the difference.PR bull-shots.
But impresive PR bull-shots nonetheless.
Could Uncharted 2 actually rival KZ2 in the graphics dept?
Eyezonmii
I'm not bashing.Uncharted is still one of the best looking console games available imo,and I'm sure ND will try to top it with the sequel.
But those pictures have more than just AA added imo.I may be wrong,but they seem to have added extra texture and lighting to those pics.Although I've no doubt the game will be stunner when its released.
[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="stvee101"]Relax, PR shots only have AA differences, so PR shots do look sharper with less jags. The detail is all there, that won't change. Hell, Uncharted 1 is proof. If anyone can pull it off its Naughty dog. People need to stop using these PR shots excuses, they are ACTUAL shots of the game, they arn't CGI or BS. Learn the difference.PR bull-shots.
But impresive PR bull-shots nonetheless.
Could Uncharted 2 actually rival KZ2 in the graphics dept?
stvee101
I'm not bashing.Uncharted is still one of the best looking console games available imo,and I'm sure ND will try to top it with the sequel.
But those pictures have more than just AA added imo.I may be wrong,but they seem to have added extra texture and lighting to those pics.Although I've no doubt the game will be stunner when its released.
ND never have lied with previous titles, hell there shots of uncharted before the game was out was LIVED UP TOO and the final result looks better...If anyone can trust a developer and there game its them, among a few others.Fine but they should worry less about making the visuals better then the first and instead concentrate on making the game with online co-op in mind unless that is already done.SecretPolicethe game just doesn't fit in well with co-op....some games should be a single player experience and that's something uncharted does good. He is more of a solo hero, rather than your typical marine buddy shooters. I think it would be pointless. Rather have them worry about a compeling story and gameplay.
[QUOTE="stvee101"]Relax, PR shots only have AA differences, so PR shots do look sharper with less jags. The detail is all there, that won't change. Hell, Uncharted 1 is proof. If anyone can pull it off its Naughty dog. People need to stop using these PR shots excuses, they are ACTUAL shots of the game, they arn't CGI or BS. Learn the difference. Does Gears of War 2 look like this http://image.gamespotcdn.com/gamespot/images/2008/307/938611_20081104_screen028.jpg this http://image.gamespotcdn.com/gamespot/images/2008/288/938611_20081015_screen036.jpg or this? http://image.gamespotcdn.com/gamespot/images/2008/307/938611_20081104_screen023.jpg Uncharted 2 will be a good looking game, just don't expect it to look as good as these screenshots.PR bull-shots.
But impresive PR bull-shots nonetheless.
Could Uncharted 2 actually rival KZ2 in the graphics dept?
Eyezonmii
[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Fine but they should worry less about making the visuals better then the first and instead concentrate on making the game with online co-op in mind unless that is already done.Eyezonmiithe game just doesn't fit in well with co-op....some games should be a single player experience and that's something uncharted does good. He is more of a solo hero, rather than your typical marine buddy shooters. I think it would be pointless. Rather have them worry about a compeling story and gameplay. Loved the first one, can't wait for the second. Hopefully when the second one comes out I can pick up the first one cheap...but not in those red boxes. On a side note that's pretty damn disgusting that he's still wearing the same clothes from over a year ago. :P
[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Fine but they should worry less about making the visuals better then the first and instead concentrate on making the game with online co-op in mind unless that is already done.Eyezonmiithe game just doesn't fit in well with co-op....some games should be a single player experience and that's something uncharted does good. He is more of a solo hero, rather than your typical marine buddy shooters. I think it would be pointless. Rather have them worry about a compeling story and gameplay. Certainly Game-play then story come first but no offence to you but when I hear that I think it's a cop-out as even RPG's are doing co-op this gen and IMO, Uncharted should top the list of games that would benefit greatly from the Inclusion of a full campaign co-op mode.
[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="stvee101"]Relax, PR shots only have AA differences, so PR shots do look sharper with less jags. The detail is all there, that won't change. Hell, Uncharted 1 is proof. If anyone can pull it off its Naughty dog. People need to stop using these PR shots excuses, they are ACTUAL shots of the game, they arn't CGI or BS. Learn the difference. Does Gears of War 2 look like this http://image.gamespotcdn.com/gamespot/images/2008/307/938611_20081104_screen028.jpg this http://image.gamespotcdn.com/gamespot/images/2008/288/938611_20081015_screen036.jpg or this? http://image.gamespotcdn.com/gamespot/images/2008/307/938611_20081104_screen023.jpg Uncharted 2 will be a good looking game, just don't expect it to look as good as these screenshots. well done comparing Epic with ND...btw, that last shot is correct, it just has added AA, and makes detail stick out more...if you've PLAYED that level in Gears 2 its JUST AS DETAILED. the first 2 shots arn't even gameplay or realtime...lol. Whats uncharted 2 shows is gameplay and in-games stuff....clearly the first 2 shots of those gears 2 screens aren't real. lolPR bull-shots.
But impresive PR bull-shots nonetheless.
Could Uncharted 2 actually rival KZ2 in the graphics dept?
Einhanderkiller
u gotta admit 360 can't graphically compete with PS3 exclusives. None of its games can beat MGS4, KZ2, or uncharted1/2sillarisSure dude you keep telling yourself that..i won't make it real if you keep saying it.
[QUOTE="sillaris"]u gotta admit 360 can't graphically compete with PS3 exclusives. None of its games can beat MGS4, KZ2, or uncharted1/2McdonaIdsGuySure dude you keep telling yourself that..i won't make it real if you keep saying it. Think real hard, only thing Gears 2 does over MGS4 is Textures, Uncharted is equal on that side plus more due to better models. K2 just wipes the floor with Gears 2 overall according to many previews/reviews...MGS4 smacks it and gives it the middle finger concerning character detail. Unreal engine is great tool for distant object, zoom it in and it shows its floors.... http://kineticninja.blogspot.com/2009/01/naughty-dog-realtime-graphics-and.html
[QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"][QUOTE="sillaris"]u gotta admit 360 can't graphically compete with PS3 exclusives. None of its games can beat MGS4, KZ2, or uncharted1/2EyezonmiiSure dude you keep telling yourself that..i won't make it real if you keep saying it. Think real hard, only thing Gears 2 does over MGS4 is Textures, Uncharted is equal on that side plus more due to better models. K2 just wipes the floor with Gears 2 overall according to many previews/reviews...MGS4 smacks it and gives it the middle finger concerning character detail. Unreal engine is great tool for distant object, zoom it in and it shows its floors.... http://kineticninja.blogspot.com/2009/01/naughty-dog-realtime-graphics-and.html I think U2 will make many a believer (if KZ2 hasn't for some odd reason). KZ2 does EVERYTHING well graphically. It excels in areas that are mostly overlooked or taken for granted. I'm glad GG didn't focus only on textures (even though they are crisp and hi-res).
[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"] Sure dude you keep telling yourself that..i won't make it real if you keep saying it.Episode_EveThink real hard, only thing Gears 2 does over MGS4 is Textures, Uncharted is equal on that side plus more due to better models. K2 just wipes the floor with Gears 2 overall according to many previews/reviews...MGS4 smacks it and gives it the middle finger concerning character detail. Unreal engine is great tool for distant object, zoom it in and it shows its floors.... http://kineticninja.blogspot.com/2009/01/naughty-dog-realtime-graphics-and.html I think U2 will make many a believer (if KZ2 hasn't for some odd reason). KZ2 does EVERYTHING well graphically. It excels in areas that are mostly overlooked or taken for granted. I'm glad GG didn't focus only on textures (even though they are crisp and hi-res). Killzone 2 and hi-res textures??? :lol: come on man lol, have you played the beta??
Meh,doesn't look THAT good. Killzone 2, Resident Evil 5, Gears and riddick crap all over it imo.longshotgir
I agree with this guy, those screenshots don't impress me all that much. Oh and drake or whatever his name is looks like a plastic figurine.
[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"] Think real hard, only thing Gears 2 does over MGS4 is Textures, Uncharted is equal on that side plus more due to better models. K2 just wipes the floor with Gears 2 overall according to many previews/reviews...MGS4 smacks it and gives it the middle finger concerning character detail. Unreal engine is great tool for distant object, zoom it in and it shows its floors.... http://kineticninja.blogspot.com/2009/01/naughty-dog-realtime-graphics-and.htmlnavyguy21I think U2 will make many a believer (if KZ2 hasn't for some odd reason). KZ2 does EVERYTHING well graphically. It excels in areas that are mostly overlooked or taken for granted. I'm glad GG didn't focus only on textures (even though they are crisp and hi-res). Killzone 2 and hi-res textures??? :lol: come on man lol, have you played the beta?? Have you read the preivews? Every one has said that the final version gets basically redone textures.
[QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"][QUOTE="sillaris"]u gotta admit 360 can't graphically compete with PS3 exclusives. None of its games can beat MGS4, KZ2, or uncharted1/2EyezonmiiSure dude you keep telling yourself that..i won't make it real if you keep saying it. Think real hard, only thing Gears 2 does over MGS4 is Textures, Uncharted is equal on that side plus more due to better models. Geow2 has more than just textures over MGS4 and Uncharted... what about the level of detail,better physics,destructible enviroments,bigger scale and more enemies on the screeen..
[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"] Think real hard, only thing Gears 2 does over MGS4 is Textures, Uncharted is equal on that side plus more due to better models. K2 just wipes the floor with Gears 2 overall according to many previews/reviews...MGS4 smacks it and gives it the middle finger concerning character detail. Unreal engine is great tool for distant object, zoom it in and it shows its floors.... http://kineticninja.blogspot.com/2009/01/naughty-dog-realtime-graphics-and.htmlMcdonaIdsGuyI think U2 will make many a believer (if KZ2 hasn't for some odd reason). KZ2 does EVERYTHING well graphically. It excels in areas that are mostly overlooked or taken for granted. I'm glad GG didn't focus only on textures (even though they are crisp and hi-res). And let me guess you're one of those guys thinking that x360 can't pull off a game like KZ2? :roll: Well lets look at the evidence here... The 360 has been out for a year longer than the ps3 MS has more money to invest in better games The 360 is supposed to be easier to develop for At the end of the day I think its clear the ps3 will produce the best graphics, who knows if the 360 will get a game as good looking as KZ2, but righht now the evidence suggests otherwise, I would like to be proven wrong, if MS matched it then sony would work hard to one up that game, then MS would and so on, but I doubt that KZ2 is possible on the 360, for starters its way too big for DVD...
[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"] Sure dude you keep telling yourself that..i won't make it real if you keep saying it.McdonaIdsGuyThink real hard, only thing Gears 2 does over MGS4 is Textures, Uncharted is equal on that side plus more due to better models. Geow2 has more than just textures over MGS4 and Uncharted... what about the level of detail,better physics,destructible enviroments,bigger scale and more enemies on the screeen..Not to mention that the visuals take a hit when doing a on & off line co-op mode through the entire one player campaign and Halo 3 does a 4 player co-op. I'd rather a bit less WOW in the visuals if co-op is there. -Seems when Uncharted & MGS4 are compared to other games, that never gets recognized here for some strange reason. :P
Well lets look at the evidence here...
The 360 has been out for a year longer than the ps3
Being longer doesn't mean jack..its all about developers choice if they want to push a console or not..and if those developers are talent enough and have time to do it..
MS has more money to invest in better games
MS=/=Sony,MS has a different vision now when it comes to games..they know they have a powerfull hardware and they still sell millions of software/Hardware without the need to push the console.. unlike sony that need to live up their promises to move consoles and sell software which still doesn't help them at all
The 360 is supposed to be easier to develop for
Again is about developers choice..not all devs take 4 + years to make a game..
At the end of the day I think its clear the ps3 will produce the best graphics, who knows if the 360 will get a game as good looking as KZ2, but righht now the evidence suggests otherwise, I would like to be proven wrong, if MS matched it then sony would work hard to one up that game, then MS would and so on, but I doubt that KZ2 is possible on the 360, for starters its way too big for DVD...
Well if KZ2 does have an impact when it comes to sell software and hardware..then MS might have a reason to counter back..but right now they don't have a reason,but sony has to;), ''you doubt'' but did you know that real developers don't say that a game like KZ2 is not possible on xbox360? the size means jack and the 360 can install games now..GTAIV is bigger than KZ2 and fits on a DVD..NinjaMunkey01
[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]
Well lets look at the evidence here...
The 360 has been out for a year longer than the ps3
Being longer doesn't mean jack..its all about developers choice if they want to push a console or not..and if those developers are talent enough and have time to do it..
MS has more money to invest in better games
MS=/=Sony,MS has a different vision now when it comes to games..they know they have a powerfull hardware and they still sell millions of software/Hardware without the need to push the console.. unlike sony that need to live up their promises to move consoles and sell software which still doesn't help them at all
The 360 is supposed to be easier to develop for
Again is about developers choice..not all devs take 4 + years to make a game..
At the end of the day I think its clear the ps3 will produce the best graphics, who knows if the 360 will get a game as good looking as KZ2, but righht now the evidence suggests otherwise, I would like to be proven wrong, if MS matched it then sony would work hard to one up that game, then MS would and so on, but I doubt that KZ2 is possible on the 360, for starters its way too big for DVD...
Well if KZ2 does have an impact when it comes to sell software and hardware..then MS might have a reason to counter back..but right now they don't have a reason,but sony has to;), ''you doubt'' but did you know that real developers don't say that a game like KZ2 is not possible on xbox360? the size means jack and the 360 can install games now..GTAIV is bigger than KZ2 and fits on a DVD..McdonaIdsGuy
Lol @ GTA is bigger, each level on KZ2 takes roughly 2 gigs, now the preview bit reviewers got ages oago had 6, and theres more, plus online maps... See what I mean???
How in hell KZ2 is bigger than an OPEN WORLD game :lol: you're eating up what sony tells you...KZ 2 is not bigger than GTAIV is a linear shooter you fallow a path you can walk free in those maps ;),and most of that space is because of the 7.1 audio which takes a lot space.
Its easy for you to use those stataments about the devs but gears 2 was hyped to be the graphics king, of course MS wants thier console to have the bets looking games, its good advertiszement, and the fact theyve had longer to achive it, with easier hardware to work with, and a larger budget suggests sony has the better console...
Geow 2 is the best looking game available right now on consoles..and they achieved that only in 2 years...but like i said before..MS doesn't need to have the best looking games to sell software and hardware ;),sony needs to live up the hype they did for the ps3..MS doesn't.. and its clearly that you can come back with anything to prove me wrong..you keep coming with the same what you just said in your other post..u can speculate all you want about KZ2 not being possible on xbox 360 but real developers who know but consoles and work with them don't agree with you and i can back it up unlike you... maybe you're one of those guys who thinks the tech behind KZ2 is no possible to implement on the xbox 360..guess what xbox 360 has pull off 2 games with deferred rendering in a bigger scale GTAIV and crackdown
NinjaMunkey01
Fine but they should worry less about making the visuals better then the first and instead concentrate on making the game with online co-op in mind unless that is already done.SecretPoliceWhy on earth would you have on-line co-op in an action-adventure game? :| It makes no sense. Not every game in the world needs online gameplay. It's ridiculous.
Yeah, they're PR shots, but I do expect the game to look almost identical to these screens. Unlike Epic who completely glorifies their games in screenshots, Naughty Dog has the pedigree to deliver, and I think they will.lantusGears 2 delivered ,i don't know what you're trying to say...and don't expect the ps3 to pull off 24xAA in real time like on those screenshots ;)
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