ND won't push UC4 to 60fps if it compromises experience

http://www.videogamer.com/ps4/uncharted_4/news/naughty_dog_wont_push_uncharted_4_to_60fps_if_it_compromises_player_experience.html

"Naughty Dog won't boost Uncharted 4's frame rate to 60fps if it compromises the player's experience, game director Bruce Straley has explained.

Talking in the latest issue of EDGE, Straley confirmed that the team locked Uncharted 4's frame rate at 30fps for last month's demo, but revealed that the game is actually running "above 30" frames per second.

"We're actually above 30, but we locked it [for the demo], Straley explained. "We're going to do whatever it takes to make the game we want to make. If it means we could go for 60 but lose something that would really impact the player's experience, then it's our choice as developers to say, 'Well, we're going to go for the experience over the 60 frames.'"

EDGE states that a debug station visible on the floor revealed that the game was running at 37fps.

All three PS3 Uncharted titles ran at 30fps. However, hopes that the upcoming PS4 release would run at 60fps were raised after community strategist Arne Meyer revealed that Naughty Dog would be targeting 1080p/60fps "with anything we're doing on this generation".

Last summer's PS4 re-release The Last of Us: Remastered ran at 1080p/60fps, up from the original game's 720p/30fps.

Uncharted 4: A Thief's End launches exclusively on PS4 later this year."

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

So, what happened to this?

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/471979/naughty-dog-aiming-for-1080p-60fps-for-all-future-ps4-games/

i.e. we can't and it was never going to happen in the first place...

It's clear they won't be able the achieve that, it would be something magical if they could do it, I have to admit it, the 60 fps is better after trying TLOU with both unlocked and locked frame rates.

So if there's screen tearing or massive frame rate fluctuations they'll lock it to 30. Fair enough.

Compare with Halo 5 with is currently suffering frame rate drops to 50 at 720p in enclosed maps with five characters on screen.

Oh yeah @deadline-zero0 learn what "aiming for" means.

This saves them face when the inevitable 30fps is confirmed. I don't care as long as Its as good as UC2.

Good, makes for a better cinematic experience on Netflix. :P

You must be a younger generation. It's all about gameplay and experience, son. We had shit graphics back in the day.

It is sad they even have to say things like this. I'd take 60fps with a slight visual markdown anyday, but the bulk of gamers just whine and complain about everything.

Its the Sony way, looks over quality.

Also, no way a graphics game is going to go at 60fps on console. They can't do fuckin anything at 60fps lol.

So I guess 30fps is fine? because cinema?

What a piece of junk

Sony looking pretty stupid with all the aiming for 60fps bullshit.

Business as usual I guess....and that's why they are losing billions.

Co-sign. I don't give a **** what UC4 runs at. The franchise and Naughty Dog are already proven.

It is possible. I am thinking that Naughty Dog simply want the game stable. A lot of people thought Smash Bros on wiiu at 1080p60fps was bullcrap. Turned out it is and doesn't stutter even with 8 players on the screen.

But they haven't said anything about the black bars yet. They're compromising the cinematic experience

My ass it's about gameplay on consoles. It's no different than any other gaming device.

And things were exactly the same back then, it's just we didn't know any better. We were wowed my the graphics consoles were producing. It's been the same since the ZX Spectrum. We were like 'WOW look at those shitty blocks all over the place' and 'I think I can make out Robocop in that mess on screen, he looks just like him'.

@deadline-zero0:

Oh man black bars to boot would be pure saweetness... , don't tease me with a good time. :P

@SolidGame_basic: while I agree, I find it difficult to go back and play my favorite old games without a remaster touch in any way.

Games were more fun in the past, I have to admit.

It's what I expected them to say, they can't just say were not bothering aiming for 60fps due to hardware limitations.

WEll with this kind of graphics , physics , models , shadows etc etc ... which are soooo top notch , i can understand. There are limitations ...

Solid, i just want to know if UC4 will still have the best theme of teh gen and be teh most beautifull

awesome. people really need to stop pretending like 60fps is even a thing 'bu-bu-bu its more fluid!!!' its the same shit

and i rather have a really good looking 30fps game than something that looks like halo 5

WTF! I thought for sure ND would be able to hit 1080p 60fps with a linear game like Uncharted. It's not really a big because I enjoyed all of the other Uncharted games regardless, but I'm just surprised to see that they may have to make some sacrifices.

I think there's a good chance they will hit it, if 343 manages to hit 1080p/60fps or even 900p/60fps with Halo 5, I don't see why ND shouldn't be able to hit 1080p/60fps with Uncharted. If it does play out that way it would be pure irony though.

Oh yeah cant compromise the cinematic experience... 30fps it is

spoken like a true peasant.

I guess you'd like to play at 5 frame per second too since you can't tell frame rate apart.

Ummm, how would 60fps compromise the player's experience?

yes because the difference of 30-60 is the same as 5-30 lmao what a horrible comparison

there is no damn difference between 30-60, its a marketing gimmick

Rght from the horse's mouth cows. Your ND let you down once again, congratulations. Now let the drones charge in and tell you they never downgrades or over promise. :D

So much fail. First they fire up the ole hype train during the reveal just to get Sony fanboys to cream themselves and as predicted...................Ah we were just lying, making shit up, setting unrealistic goals as usual.

There is a difference, though. 60 frames is native to the display.

PR and such, i guess

They can always downgrade the graphics to allow a solid 60fps. I'm sure it would still look good even with a downgrade.

What kind of experience are they so afraid of compromising ? 60fps is smoother.... its better for a game whos focus actually is gameplay mechanics.... locking it at 30 is proof they are focused on other things.... the sweat on Drakes forhead, the lighting reflections in the one short section of the game that has water, the partlicle affects on flames and dust..... or one of the many other things that has got nothing to do with Gameplay

Isn't this kind of redundant considering they already have The Order serving as the Tech Demo ?

@emgesp: Graphics sell games, truth be told, so it's understandable why they did it.

It's just funny after all the "Naughty Gods" stuff from the fanbase and all this Ubisoft level spin of justification.

Still, i'm sure the game will be good. I enjoy Uncharted anyway.

i dont notice it. all uc games last gen were 30fps and felt fluid as hell as did gears of war. i played titanfall on my pc at 30fps and now playing it at 60fps on x1 and dont notice any difference. all the halo games feel just the same to me in 60fps as they did in 30fps.

what bothers me is when people act like 30fps is unplayble all of a sudden

For some reason I just don't have high hopes for this game augmenting the franchise... Not saying it won't be a worthy buy, just really felt like the demo took the wind out of my sails.

@TheEroica: just curious about what you were expecting?

@scottpsfan14:

Yes bigger levels that add nothing to the experience.... as if we don't have enough of those already....

30FPS confirmed. Doesn't bother me in the slightest.

@scottpsfan14:

Can't change the world if there's no demand for it......

This is why we have underappreciated hidden gems that do certain concepts better than the big games do.

I agree that 30 can be fine. It is how the developer handles the controls in relation to the framerate. I often bring up Twisted Metal in this respect. However 60 fps is far from a marketing gimmick. Uncharted 1-3 do play great, but I bet if you were to play it at 60fps you'd notice a bit of "looseness" to the way the right analog stick handles the game at 30fps.

@2mrw: well, and I admittedly always shoot high in expectations, I was hoping to see something that didn't look exactly like a slightly prettier Uncharted 3. Perhaps a revamped parkour or gunplay system, both of which I find wholly average in each Uncharted game. Drake looks a little more agile, but the demo was also scripted. I would've enjoyed seeing a few chances taken with some of drakes mechanics and maybe freshen the series up a bit with some bold ideas... After four games, all of which I've played through, I was hoping for some parity... From what I've seen thus far it looks like common fare for the series. No?

Yeah eum... You are just trolling now not?

So now 60fps doesn't matter, funny how cows change their stance as soon as Sony says something different. I fail to see how 30 fps is the same as 60fps, please explain.

Have you played Halo 5? I play almost everyday since the beta launched, so I don't really understand what you mean by something that looks like Halo 5. The game is pretty much solid, some dips but they are so rare that you don't really mind considering it's a beta.

I don't understand how when Sony pulls a 180 on something they said the logical answer is to bash an xbox game, instead of holding Sony accountable. So what will the excuse be if Halo releases at 1080/60fps.

Didn't you start gaming sixth gen?