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#1 MysticalDonut
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This combat trailer is near identical to the one released nearly ten years ago for the PS3. I like how they finally acknowledge no prone or dodge mechanics in this remake from TLOU Part II and try to justify by saying it wouldn't work with Joel against clickers. Uh, so just make it only work against human enemies or even runner infected? For shame, for shame.

Sad to see one of my favorite franchises of all time be milked like this, please don't spend $70 on this and let them get away with it. This cannot become an industry norm!

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This is embarrassing.

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#3 Sagemode87
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@mesome713: stay Mad Lem. Higher than Halo Infinite on Metacritic. A 10 year old remake 🙂

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"Guys we made the same game with better graphics and AI. $70 please. No multi-player."

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@Sagemode87 said:

@mesome713: stay Mad Lem. Higher than Halo Infinite on Metacritic. A 10 year old remake 🙂

$70 for a remastered remaster and only half the content 😅

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@kejigoto said:

"Guys we made the same game with better graphics and AI. $70 please. No multi-player."

lollll

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I would love to hear an explanation as to how including dodge would "subvert certain game mechanics" Joel has. Such as?

There's absolutely no reason dodge wouldn't work in this as it did in Part II. Prone? Ok, I can buy that the levels weren't designed to be conducive to utilizing such a mechanic, but please ND, stop trying to bullshit your way out of leaving out a mechanic that would've done nothing but added to the experience.

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#8  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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I do find it strange the gaming media is hyping this again as if were back in 2013 even though this is just a Remake and while I still adore TLOU back in 2013, I think the combat has somewhat improve, the only difference is that you can now dodge Clickers this time around, you can only dodge Humans in the original game is what they're referring to.

Of course I'm gonna get the game...on PC that is when its on a discount and Sony thinks I'm gonna pay $70 for the PC version too, please.

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@Sagemode87 said:

@mesome713: stay Mad Lem. Higher than Halo Infinite on Metacritic. A 10 year old remake 🙂

$70 for a remastered remaster and only half the content 😅

And it's not about not having the money, it's about principle of buying something for more than its worth - and while the updated features are nice and yes, I seen the Remaster vs Remake comparisons, they are indeed impressive in my eyes, it's simply not worth $70. Half content or not, its the principles that I'm talking about.

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Not even a decade old and already has a remaster and remake lol.

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@MirkoS77 said:

I would love to hear an explanation as to how including dodge would "subvert certain game mechanics" Joel has. Such as?

There's absolutely no reason dodge wouldn't work in this as it did in Part II. Prone? Ok, I can buy that the levels weren't designed to be conducive to utilizing such a mechanic, but please ND, stop trying to bullshit your way out of leaving out a mechanic that would've done nothing but added to the experience.

Agreed 100%. Shame that they couldn't spend the extra time to nail down the efficiencies from LOU2. That's the easiest sell they could have had for charging another 70 bucks for it.

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disappointing. prone would be a big gameplay plus in any game with even a modicum of stealth. fc2 for example

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#14  Edited By mrbojangles25
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@x_hedon said:
@Sagemode87 said:

@mesome713: stay Mad Lem. Higher than Halo Infinite on Metacritic. A 10 year old remake 🙂

$70 for a remastered remaster and only half the content 😅

"Pay more for less" seems to be the MO of most AAA games these days.

Though they would prefer to call it a "service" than a ripoff. If they add multiplayer later and charge for it? Oh man, screw these people.

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Halo inf news must made the lems here rabid

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@daredevils2k said:

Halo inf news must made the lems here rabid

Funny you say that cause a Xbox fanny didn't create this thread.😮

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#17  Edited By ClockWorkBanana
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@MirkoS77 said:

I would love to hear an explanation as to how including dodge would "subvert certain game mechanics" Joel has. Such as?

There's absolutely no reason dodge wouldn't work in this as it did in Part II. Prone? Ok, I can buy that the levels weren't designed to be conducive to utilizing such a mechanic, but please ND, stop trying to bullshit your way out of leaving out a mechanic that would've done nothing but added to the experience.

They could have, you know, remade the levels to accomodate prone, being a "from the ground up remake" and all

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@warm_gun said:

Damn Ellie been smoking some of that blue shit.

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They just want money because they know there won't be Uncharted 5 and they screwed up TLOU2 so a sequel is unlikely. Once they release the multiplayer, their next project will be Uncharted 1-4 remakes... just like Resident Evil

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A combat trailer is the last thing ND should show off. Trailers of characters waking up with their face in a puddle is something ND is good at. Well, until they claim it’s real time and/or gameplay…

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@warmblur said:
@warm_gun said:

Damn Ellie been smoking some of that blue shit.

I hope there's a mod for Ellie when the PC version releases.

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#22  Edited By Juub1990
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A combat trailer is the last thing ND should show off. Trailers of characters waking up with their face in a puddle is something ND is good at. Well, until they claim it’s real time and/or gameplay…

It was real-time. Just not gameplay yet idiots really thought the game would look like that lol.

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#23 simple-facts
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Hey that's mediocre 8 out of 10 games for ya

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Totally a shame. Although The Last of Us Part I is a 10/10 masterpiece and a consensus greatest game of all time, there has been advancements to combat and gameplay mechanics.

I really wanted to prone and dodge mechanics from TLOU2 in TLOU.

they should have re-designed the levels and enemy encounters to accommodate these changes.

Then we'd get the new 11/10 GOAT TLOUP1

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#25  Edited By Litchie
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What, is the remake of a fairly new game near identical to the original? I'm shocked, quite frankly.

Last of Us 2 remake for $80 gonna be sweet!

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@warm_gun said:

How come Ellie looks so bad...? Doesn't even look like the same character. Did she get bit by a clicker? Actually, all three of those characters look like they're one foot in the grave.

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#27  Edited By TheEroica  Moderator  Online
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They just want money because they know there won't be Uncharted 5 and they screwed up TLOU2 so a sequel is unlikely. Once they release the multiplayer, their next project will be Uncharted 1-4 remakes... just like Resident Evil

If the next games from naughty dog are uncharted remakes then we are truly witnessing the great fall of a formerly great developer. So much talent and no compass on new content. Yikes.

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lol, what the hell is wrong with new Ellie?! Why hasn't that blown up on the interwebs?

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@Litchie said:

lol, what the hell is wrong with new Ellie?! Why hasn't that blown up on the interwebs?

Because it’s fake.

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@Litchie: I guess you're one of those that click on emails from Nigerian princes.

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#31  Edited By SecretPolice
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@Mozelleple112:

Were you just listening to Rovers Morning Glory radio show?

Not ten mins ago they were just talking about that scams. lol :P

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I'm just gonna post this vid and I’m not taking sides. I'm only just offering some information for the gamers to do with as they wish rather they buy the Remake or not. Video by PlayStation Access: (It covers a lot of the things that have been done to the game in terms of graphics, audio, controls, accessibility, etc)

Loading Video...

That said, I'll still get it for PC later whenever it drops.

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What's embarrassing is how a remake is better than Microsoft's entire current gen lineup.

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I’m a lemming and I have to be honest,TLOU remake still looks good regardless of what some people are saying about it. Wouldn’t mind it being a XSX game.

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@TheEroica said:
@omegamaster said:

They just want money because they know there won't be Uncharted 5 and they screwed up TLOU2 so a sequel is unlikely. Once they release the multiplayer, their next project will be Uncharted 1-4 remakes... just like Resident Evil

If the next games from naughty dog are uncharted remakes then we are truly witnessing the great fall of a formerly great developer. So much talent and no compass on new content. Yikes.

It will happen at some point. We saw TLOU original, remaster and remake. Uncharted series recently released a remaster for PS5 and PC. There is a noticeable pattern here. I just hope for a new title from Naughty Dog.

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@MirkoS77 said:
@Litchie said:

lol, what the hell is wrong with new Ellie?! Why hasn't that blown up on the interwebs?

Because it’s fake.

Ah. :(

@Mozelleple112 said:

@Litchie: I guess you're one of those that click on emails from Nigerian princes.

Scuse me for not knowing shit about TLoU. I mean.. it wouldn't be that shocking if it was real.

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#37  Edited By MirkoS77
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@brimmul777 said:

I’m a lemming and I have to be honest,TLOU remake still looks good regardless of what some people are saying about it. Wouldn’t mind it being a XSX game.

It is good. Very good, actually.

It's not anywhere near a PS3 game ported to PS5 as so many are claiming. As ND have stated, the entire game has been built from the ground up, and this is obvious. While nothing major in terms of new levels/areas, some rooms are completely redone with new geometry. The models now are so realistic it makes the cutscenes even better. While the combat in videos looks unchanged, there is some nuances to it which flesh it out a bit more (the improved AI is the biggest benefit to enemy encounters, it is noticeable, as well as ragdoll, gore, and animation improvements). The audio is far superior to the OG and more dynamic, TLoU II enemies have been incorporated (Clicker improvements), it has a bunch of accessibility options, and it plays much smoother and tighter than the original.

There are significant improvements here, and it's definitely the definitive version to play. Anyone who's arguing this is nothing but an uprez is just ignorant or intentionally trolling. Serious effort has been put into it. $70 worth? Eh, to me as I'm a massive TLoU fan, but this ain't a cash grab either way.

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#38  Edited By Greygoose12
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@warm_gun: It looks worse wow !

Pay 70 dollars for a remake of a remake and only get half the original game, no multiplayer. Then defend them and spend more of your money so the keep doing it. Makes sense to me lol

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@Litchie said:
@MirkoS77 said:
@Litchie said:

lol, what the hell is wrong with new Ellie?! Why hasn't that blown up on the interwebs?

Because it’s fake.

Ah. :(

Damn you got super baited.

If they made her look like that, the shitstorm would be so powerful that CNN and Fox would be talking about nerds raging all over the social media. It would be an incredible event to remember.

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@Sagemode87 said:

@mesome713: stay Mad Lem. Higher than Halo Infinite on Metacritic. A 10 year old remake 🙂

The OP does have a point, though. Games like this is overvalued and shouldn't be worth $70. They shouldn't get away with this.

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@hardwenzen said:
@Litchie said:
@MirkoS77 said:
@Litchie said:

lol, what the hell is wrong with new Ellie?! Why hasn't that blown up on the interwebs?

Because it’s fake.

Ah. :(

Damn you got super baited.

If they made her look like that, the shitstorm would be so powerful that CNN and Fox would be talking about nerds raging all over the social media. It would be an incredible event to remember.

It would be pretty damn entertaining to watch.

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@Litchie said:
@MirkoS77 said:
@Litchie said:

lol, what the hell is wrong with new Ellie?! Why hasn't that blown up on the interwebs?

Because it’s fake.

Ah. :(

I'm sure we'll see plenty of Ellie mods when the PC version releases.

It should be quite amusing ^-^

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@mysticaldonut: "please don't spend $70 on this and let them get away with it."

I think I paid $30 used for the original game. Got the Remastered version via PS+ back in 2019 I believe but only played the DLC(tried the mp as well)

I won't pay $10 let alone $69.99+ tax.

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70 bucks for a glorified remaster, and its missing the multiplayer is a load of crap. It's a cash grab.

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@MirkoS77 said:
@brimmul777 said:

I’m a lemming and I have to be honest,TLOU remake still looks good regardless of what some people are saying about it. Wouldn’t mind it being a XSX game.

It is good. Very good, actually.

It's not anywhere near a PS3 game ported to PS5 as so many are claiming. As ND have stated, the entire game has been built from the ground up, and this is obvious. While nothing major in terms of new levels/areas, some rooms are completely redone with new geometry. The models now are so realistic it makes the cutscenes even better. While the combat in videos looks unchanged, there is some nuances to it which flesh it out a bit more (the improved AI is the biggest benefit to enemy encounters, it is noticeable, as well as ragdoll, gore, and animation improvements). The audio is far superior to the OG and more dynamic, TLoU II enemies have been incorporated (Clicker improvements), it has a bunch of accessibility options, and it plays much smoother and tighter than the original.

There are significant improvements here, and it's definitely the definitive version to play. Anyone who's arguing this is nothing but an uprez is just ignorant or intentionally trolling. Serious effort has been put into it. $70 worth? Eh, to me as I'm a massive TLoU fan, but this ain't a cash grab either way.

Congratulations, what you just described is a definition of same sh*t with new coat of paint and hence a cashgrab.

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oof. they can't do combat. stick to QTE movie game combat.

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@davillain said:
@warmblur said:
@warm_gun said:

Damn Ellie been smoking some of that blue shit.

I hope there's a mod for Ellie when the PC version releases.

Oh god be careful what you wish for.

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They are doing it on purpose. Best thing to do is not support them at all with $$$$. They will be out of the video game industry quick back to corners with signs.

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@pc_rocks said:
@MirkoS77 said:

It is good. Very good, actually.

It's not anywhere near a PS3 game ported to PS5 as so many are claiming. As ND have stated, the entire game has been built from the ground up, and this is obvious. While nothing major in terms of new levels/areas, some rooms are completely redone with new geometry. The models now are so realistic it makes the cutscenes even better. While the combat in videos looks unchanged, there is some nuances to it which flesh it out a bit more (the improved AI is the biggest benefit to enemy encounters, it is noticeable, as well as ragdoll, gore, and animation improvements). The audio is far superior to the OG and more dynamic, TLoU II enemies have been incorporated (Clicker improvements), it has a bunch of accessibility options, and it plays much smoother and tighter than the original.

There are significant improvements here, and it's definitely the definitive version to play. Anyone who's arguing this is nothing but an uprez is just ignorant or intentionally trolling. Serious effort has been put into it. $70 worth? Eh, to me as I'm a massive TLoU fan, but this ain't a cash grab either way.

Congratulations, what you just described is a definition of same sh*t with new coat of paint and hence a cashgrab.

Nah, unless you want to water down and define all manner of capitalism as a cash grab (which it is), the term otherwise comes with the implication and connotation of a low-effort, half-assed, poorly-done hasty job solely for the $$$.

This ain’t it. The entire game has been rebuilt for the PS5. That’s a shitload of work and care put into it, which is apparent upon playing. I’ve already mentioned the differences, but it’s a current gen TLoU. Looks far better, sounds far better, plays far better.

But but I can understand how people are just looking at screenshots and coming to that conclusion.

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lol. Are cows emulating Sheep by buying remakes of 10 and 20 year old games on their console?