Sony's 1st party was basically non-existent till the PS3
Sorry, but I don't agree with that statement. The PS1 and especially the PS2 had an amazing 1st party and I think it's just indicative of age or where you were in your gaming life that would lead you to believe that their 1st party was non-existent until the PS3. Basically, I just don't think you were paying much attention to their 1st party in those eras. Here's an example of some high quality games from their 1st party (only PS2/PS1 era games):
Twisted Metal 1/2,
Gran Turismo 1-4,
Twisted Metal: Black,
Primal
Mark of the Kri,
Sly Cooper 1-3 series,
Jak & Daxter 1-3
Jak X,
Parappa 1/2,
Rogue Galaxy,
Intelligent Cube,
Wild Arms 1-5,
Ratchet and Clank (4 games on PS2),
Crash Bandicoot (PS1 era),
Spyro the Dragon (PS1 era),
Legend of Legaia 1/2,
Dark Cloud 1-2,
Champions of Norrath 1/2,
Arc the Lad series,
Hot Shots Golf Series,
MediEvil series,
ICO,
Shadow of the Colossus,
Drakan: The Ancients' Gates,
Amplitude,
Frequency,
ATV Offroad Fury Series,
Jet Moto Series,
SOCOM PS2 series,
Ghost Hunter,
Destruction Derby Series,
Syphon Filter series,
War of the MONSTERS!,
God of War 1/2,
Rise of the Kasai,
Tourist Trophy,
Genji: Dawn of the Samurai
Siren 1/2,
Mr. Mosquito,
Formula 1,
MLB The Show,
Legend of Dragoon,
Singstar,
and many more.
I skipped over games I didn't care for like Fantavision, Okage, or The Getaway but they exist too.
Sony's 1st party was VERY "existent", in fact, it was pretty awesome and only improved over the years. I loved Dark Cloud 2 and spent hours upon hours with Champions of Norrath 1/2 both online and locally with friends. Jak & Daxter was great. Sly Cooper, Ratchet & Clank, Rogue Galaxy, Twisted Metal: Black, Legend of Dragoon, War of the Monsters, Singstar, God of War 1/2...some great Sony 1st Party games and all existed before the PS3. I would also argue for Gran Turismo 1-4, but I'm not into racing, although I can't deny the series was a critical and consumer darling when it came out in the PS1 era.
I would certainly argue that that they improved over the years, but the PS2 was where I noticed as a gamer in that era how strong and relevant their 1st party was. I wasn't sure if the PS1 was a fluke, but the PS2 solidified Sony as a contender in the 1st party space...and I was a Xbox and Gamecube gamer which really spoke volumes to me how good some of those PS2 1st party games were.
It was sad to see Sony not utilize Psygnosis's talents. I blame it on the Formula 1 games. They're hella niche and Psygnosis / SCE Liverpool made like 13 of them. Not sure if it was the studios decision to pursue those or Sony's. Either way, that's what killed it.
It was sad to see Sony not utilize Psygnosis's talents. I blame it on the Formula 1 games. They're hella niche and Psygnosis / SCE Liverpool made like 13 of them. Not sure if it was the studios decision to pursue those or Sony's. Either way, that's what killed it.
Screw that psygnosis needs to make another destruction derby game.
i bought psx in 1995 on launch battle arena toshinden/warhawk/ridge racer.
Yes sonys first party support is good....but i think the games are dorky as **** now.
Cool story,nobody cares heewee
Then why's tc acting like he's special i bought psx in 1998 wooohoo lol
You're acting special
I might aswell join the club.
lol 1998 i was basically ready to move to dreamcast in 99.
Woah.
You should be the president of the USA
only game worth a **** for playstation in 1998 was like duke nukem time to kill pretty much,only a few other decent games that year.
gran turismo was a fucking joke after coming from playing need for speed on 3do made 5 years before the physics were total garbage compared to 5 year older game.
It was sad to see Sony not utilize Psygnosis's talents. I blame it on the Formula 1 games. They're hella niche and Psygnosis / SCE Liverpool made like 13 of them. Not sure if it was the studios decision to pursue those or Sony's. Either way, that's what killed it.
Screw that psygnosis needs to make another destruction derby game.
Meh I've been playing since the 8-bit era in the 80s and from my gaming experience I think gaming is only getting better despite what others are saying (people wearing nostalgia goggles).
That said, I can't wait what the 1st party devs such as Naughty Dog has in store for this generation!
I guess Microsoft 1st party must be dog shit level then? Bungie is gone they were the only great studio along with Turn 10(I guess don't play racers). Just about any halfway decent studio can ride Halo's coattails and 343 is very suspect IMO. Same for Gears Of War being handed to any unproven studio in Black Tusk.
Sony has big titles like Gran Turismo, Uncharted, God of War, Little Big Planet and now the The Last Of Us. They also has studios than turn out lots of good games that appeal different demographics like in all different genres. I think Sony has the most diverse 1st party by far. Nintendo continues to milk the same IPs and Microsoft has little interest in even investing in new studios.
As of right now Media Molecule, Sony Bend, Sony Japan, Sony London, Guerrilla Games, Quantic Dream(2nd party) and Ready At Dawn(2nd) are all working on new IPs or least titles that were not around last gen. Sony's first party is its biggest strength because they can't compete with Microsoft in buying 3rd party exclusives.
only game worth a **** for playstation in 1998 was like duke nukem time to kill pretty much,only a few other decent games that year.
gran turismo was a fucking joke after coming from playing need for speed on 3do made 5 years before the physics were total garbage compared to 5 year older game.
But what about the job opportunity? Would you be interested in ruling the USA?
Hard to develop unique and risky games with the bigger company really struggling. They will play safe and release what makes money until they back on track.
britains are like americans they think they are the only 1 in this world
You clearly know nothing about gaming history, Britain has produced some of the best developers.
Rockstar
4J
Rare
Free radical
Rocksteady
Codemasters
Bullfrog
Eidos
Core games
Rebellion
lionshead.
to name but a few developers that started out in the UK.
No we don't consider ourselves to be the only people in the world all though we do hold the world record for largest empire in the world,lol
We do, however, take great Pride in the Fact that a hell of a lot of successful Developers in the gaming industry started out here in Britain.
I / we can also add Creative Assembly (Total War), Realtime Worlds (Crackdown), Team17 (Worms, Alien Breed), Bizarre Creations (PGR!!!) and countless others, and let's not even start on how relevant they used to be in the C64 / Amiga era...
the last time I was ever into Sony's first party was the PS1 era with Crash 2, the Spyro PS1 trilogy, and the twisted Metal series, and maybe some other stuff I'm forgetting. For whatever reason I never got much into Sony's first party efforts on the PS2 outside of Twisted Metal Black and some Crash game; my PS2 was basically a third party machine (which it worked nicely as). Never even bought a PS3 last gen so that just made me miss out on even more first party stuff.
perhaps when I get a PS4 I will try to get into it more into Sony's first party (considering alot of it is sequels though I guess I would have to hope PSN has alot of first party stuff from previous gens to allow me to catch up). I am certainly interested in trying the Last of Us Remastered.
Didn't someone from Naughty Dog leave Naughty Dog recently, so yeah, Sony first party are a joke nowadays and relies on pure hype and quantity of titles rather than quality.
I thought 'Naked Truth' was a new title, false alarm,
oh and this is a bad thread
You are as much entitled to such an opinion as I am to mine, and by the way I did state beforehand that it is nothing more but my opinion. However, I have a slight suspicion that if you trivialize this thread and shrug it off as being merely a "bad one" then I think that you're being ignorant about the history of video games as a whole.
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