Most of you kids are not harcore

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#51 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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[QUOTE="meetroid8"]Having played through 4 generations(including this one) I think I should get an automatic Hardcore right.Nuck81

I disagree, I have played most and owned more than my share of every video game system since the Atari 2600 and don't consider myself "hardcore"

This obsession with having to label yourself is ludicrous

hardcore vs. casual - gamer mysticism.
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#52 deactivated-5e9044657a310
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Well then it's a good thing I'm not a kid. Playing only kiddy games does not make you more of a gamer than anyone else here. You're just as much of an elitist as the people who say kiddy games are always bad.

You can try to portray yourself as some kind of video game godfather but I can see right through that

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#53 123625
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Nice points i dont consider myself a hardcore gamer but i enjoy the type of games you talk about.
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#54 dracula_16
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[QUOTE="dracula_16"]

Well then it's a good thing I'm not a kid. Playing only kiddy games does not make you more of a gamer than anyone else here. You're just as much of an elitist as the people who say kiddy games are always bad.

You can try to portray yourself as some kind of video game godfather but I can see right through that

Nuck81

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Get back to me when you have reading skills.

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#55 deactivated-5e9044657a310
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Meh, you people can have your "Hardcore" title. In reality it's just another group of people trying to put down people they consider their inferiors.

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This is exacly what I am getting at.

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#56 deactivated-5e9044657a310
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[QUOTE="Nuck81"][QUOTE="dracula_16"]

Well then it's a good thing I'm not a kid. Playing only kiddy games does not make you more of a gamer than anyone else here. You're just as much of an elitist as the people who say kiddy games are always bad.

You can try to portray yourself as some kind of video game godfather but I can see right through that

dracula_16

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Get back to me when you have reading skills.

Yes because That's exactly what I said, I only play games you consider "kiddy"

Thanks for playing

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#57 lupinelope
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[QUOTE="Nuck81"]

[QUOTE="Bgrngod"]A poster crying foul about how "hardcore" is used to mean violence/sex, but with a wrestler as his avatar. Makes me pause a bit.Bgrngod

by wrestler, you mean henry Rollins right?

Apparently I do yes. How old is that pic? Last time I saw him he looked way older then that.

Henry Rollins is pretty hardcore :P

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#58 KingStoph
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im GLAD im not Hardcore, i dont wanna cry like a bellend whenever i get my behind handed to me in an online game. and start screaming about hacks and mods and glitchs and other rubish.

Hardcore Trashtalk is like listening to a new species of retard

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#59 z_gaming_master
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What exactly do you mean when you say MGS4's release would make it less of a reason to buy the console? For me and many others its release would have pushed me to buy a PS3 earlier than I did. Why would a game which is most likely going to gain massive scores from critics and massive sales also, why would it be forgotten on release, and no longer a reason to buy the system?

I propose the main reason Twilight Princess is 'forgotten' about is because it is also on the GC and you do not need a Wii to play it. I don't own a Wii and have played it through twice.

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#60 De_Bears
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Bright colors, simplistic controls, non-adult themes, Saturday morning cartoon plot.......

And I'm not to think that Nintendo is kiddy?

Its simple Wii and DS are targeted for kids and (by blind luck) older adults and women. The 20 - 40 y.o male is more attracted to PS3 or 360. I can't say for sure if Wii is a fad but I know tickle-me-elmo lasted two years.

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#62 Video_Game_King
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That is why I love the Wii: it focuses on gameplay. I support any console that puts gameplay as its top priority. And you can play Gears of War and be hardcore, just not play ONLY Gears of War and be hardcore among the hardcore. There are people who do believe this, and I essentially hate them.
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#63 out0v0rder
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Its the time you put into gaming, not what type of games you play.Heil68
nope, its the amount of games you buy per year. just ask EA. less than ~10 games per year = casual. more than ~10 games per year = hardcore. its really that simple, it has nothing to do with what types of games you play. a person whose only game is HALO is a casual as they only game they own....is HALO......they wont buy anything else.
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Good points TC, what you say is right. Too many people think that guns and blood and gore are the only things to make a game good. The true hardcore gamers are those who look past the games rating and looks at the game itself as a whole.

I like the 'splitting' of gamer types into sort-of groups like this report, but a little different.

You have your true Hardcore Gamers who are those who play the hard, complex games which are not necessarily the ones which sell the most and are the most popular. These people go for niche games such as Okami and Metroid Prime. They base a game on more then just graphics, and consider every aspect of the game. They like to finish games and have little to no aliegance to one console manufacturer. They also have an abundance of knowledge about games.

Then you have those who can be considered Hobbyists. These people are people who like games ... a lot, yet are not as diversified as the hardcore. These people are those who like games and play them, but they mainly spend their time on games which are considered to be more mainstream then those who are hardcore. Game series might include Gears of War and Halo. These people do tend to take storys and such into account, but have more emphasis on graphics. They probally also have allegiences to one console manufacturer.

Next would be those who are Occasional Gamers. These gamers are not Casuals, and are much like the Hobbyists, except they don't play as many games, and don't devote as much time and money to their games. They have more important things in their lives then games, but most of all they want to get the most enjoyment out of the games which they play and tend to have more ephasis on fun or graphics then on a long and in-depth story.

Then you have your 'Non-Gamers', which can be grouped with Casuals, who like to play games which give thm an instant hit of fun. Many of these games may be minigames, or sport games, but the most important thing to these people are interactivity and the enjoyment they get out of games.

This is just my two-cents, which is very similar to yours TC. I'd probally consider myself a Occasional Gamer, and definetly not a hardcore one.

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I Believe hardcore games are games that you can get into and take skill to win... Most of these would be online games like halo because you have the ability to play online and face better people every day... I don't know if I can call anything on the wii Hardcore because there is no decent online support...

So basicly I would call halo 2 hardcore and you not hardcore at all...

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I Believe hardcore games are games that you can get into and take skill to win... Most of these would be online games like halo because you have the ability to play online and face better people every day... I don't know if I can call anything on the wii Hardcore because there is no decent online support...

So basicly I would call halo 2 hardcore and you not hardcore at all...

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#67 SSCyborg
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tl;dr

but I don't think of myself as a casual.

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#68 RogueGoose
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[QUOTE="RogueGoose"]

I Believe hardcore games are games that you can get into and take skill to win... Most of these would be online games like halo because you have the ability to play online and face better people every day... I don't know if I can call anything on the wii Hardcore because there is no decent online support...

So basicly I would call halo 2 hardcore and you not hardcore at all...

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Can you play head to head against people online... and is it skill or luck that you win with in the game... I've never played Trauma Center nor do I care about it or anything on the wii.

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Can you play head to head against people online... and is it skill or luck that you win with in the game... I've never played Trauma Center nor do I care about it or anything on the wii.

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It doesn't need to be online to take skill and it's more challenging than Gears on Insane and Halo (all of them) on Legendary. Anyway, I think only singleplayer games can be hardcore, since its difficulty is defined by the way the devs made the game, while online's difficulty is defined by who you play with which varies.

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I buy Nintendo products to play Nintendo games. Third parties (yes even Konami and Capcom) CANNOT touch Nintendo when they are at their best.

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I Couldn't agree more TC, thanks for posting :)
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#72 colmusterd28
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I am an avid poop-socker... does this qualify for hardcore...
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#73 Cicatraz_ESP
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Nice post, tc. Completely agree with all you've said.
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I just like to play video games.
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#75 Always-Honest
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well,i guess a hardcore gamer really likes games.. all kinds of games... so certainly great games like Mario Kart wii, Galaxy, Zelda Tp, No more heroes, wii sports, RE4, Traumacenter, Metorid3, MoH: heroes2, etc...

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#76 ndrewn
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Yeah sheep must be hardcore because they can put up with those specs. Hat off to you.
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[QUOTE="Heil68"]Its the time you put into gaming, not what type of games you play.out0v0rder
nope, its the amount of games you buy per year. just ask EA. less than ~10 games per year = casual. more than ~10 games per year = hardcore. its really that simple, it has nothing to do with what types of games you play. a person whose only game is HALO is a casual as they only game they own....is HALO......they wont buy anything else.

Disagree completely. How many games a person buys doesn't neccessarily determine how hardcore of a gamer they are. The only game I played was Halo 3 from the time it came out until x mas. Nonstop halo, all day just trying to get my Lvl 50, and I know there were TONS of people just like me. That sounds like a hardcore gamer to me.

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Agree

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I don't get why you people waste your breath attempting to classify eachother as casual or hardcore. i don't even care. is it really that important to you?
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Good points TC, what you say is right. Too many people think that guns and blood and gore are the only things to make a game good. The true hardcore gamers are those who look past the games rating and looks at the game itself as a whole.

I like the 'splitting' of gamer types into sort-of groups like this report, but a little different.

You have your true Hardcore Gamers who are those who play the hard, complex games which are not necessarily the ones which sell the most and are the most popular. These people go for niche games such as Okami and Metroid Prime. They base a game on more then just graphics, and consider every aspect of the game. They like to finish games and have little to no aliegance to one console manufacturer. They also have an abundance of knowledge about games.

Then you have those who can be considered Hobbyists. These people are people who like games ... a lot, yet are not as diversified as the hardcore. These people are those who like games and play them, but they mainly spend their time on games which are considered to be more mainstream then those who are hardcore. Game series might include Gears of War and Halo. These people do tend to take storys and such into account, but have more emphasis on graphics. They probally also have allegiences to one console manufacturer.

Next would be those who are Occasional Gamers. These gamers are not Casuals, and are much like the Hobbyists, except they don't play as many games, and don't devote as much time and money to their games. They have more important things in their lives then games, but most of all they want to get the most enjoyment out of the games which they play and tend to have more ephasis on fun or graphics then on a long and in-depth story.

Then you have your 'Non-Gamers', which can be grouped with Casuals, who like to play games which give thm an instant hit of fun. Many of these games may be minigames, or sport games, but the most important thing to these people are interactivity and the enjoyment they get out of games.

This is just my two-cents, which is very similar to yours TC. I'd probally consider myself a Occasional Gamer, and definetly not a hardcore one.

daqua_99

Very good thought........but this is GS....

Ppl in the forum get so obsessive with these titles that they themselves don't know what they are. the key word in each title is "gamer" Fanboys taste are not the absolute truth and damn for sure do not need to hit the new topic button every time they feel the need to express stupidity. Gamers will not nitpick everything they see wrong (there is no perfect game), that what reviewers do, but even they do not post 5 times a day how much 'X' game sucks.

Even in this thread ppl fail to grasp what the TC was trying to imply, twist his words, and make him into a fanboy. Probably because deep down their truth to what he's saying.

Then again Blatant, non-conclusive, rampant, and not well thought out topics is what gets me through my 12hr work day.... so :)

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i agree. people who write off games as being kiddie are not true gamers.

it also saddens me that shooting people online seems to be the definition of modern day gaming.

---OkeyDokey---

so your saying if you play ninjabreadman your a true gamer?, right :lol:

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people label the wii as a non hardcore console mainly because it gets alot of mini party games and pretty much spins off that sell most of the times better than the hardcore games such as MP3, zelda, and SMG.....the fact that the wii appeals to mostly non hardcore gamers....is the reason this label is still out there
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#83 Swift_Boss_A
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I consider myself casual hardcore
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[QUOTE="out0v0rder"][QUOTE="Heil68"]Its the time you put into gaming, not what type of games you play.Cicatraz_ESP

nope, its the amount of games you buy per year. just ask EA. less than ~10 games per year = casual. more than ~10 games per year = hardcore. its really that simple, it has nothing to do with what types of games you play. a person whose only game is HALO is a casual as they only game they own....is HALO......they wont buy anything else.

Disagree completely. How many games a person buys doesn't neccessarily determine how hardcore of a gamer they are. The only game I played was Halo 3 from the time it came out until x mas. Nonstop halo, all day just trying to get my Lvl 50, and I know there were TONS of people just like me. That sounds like a hardcore gamer to me.

That guy should try telling Team Carbon that they're casuals

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#85 VanHelsingBoA64
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I am post-hardcore.Hoobinator

Well, I'm post-alternative-indie-sub-hardcore. :evil:

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I consider myself a hardcore gamer. However, there is a difference between people who keep track of these forums, keep tabs on their firefox browser (yes, firefox people) with nothing but media websites, gaming news websites and walkthroughs / guides, observe the impact games have on society via their content, review games, know what is a well designed game and are aware of soon-to-be-released titles. In general, they keep a tab on every single aspect of the videogame industry.

And then there is everyone else : those who walk into their local videogame store, look at the shelves and see what might pick their interest, read the back of the box of random games, and who have no clue as to the release date of certain titles. Ask them about Halo 3 : they would know about it. Ask them about the response Mario Galaxy has received since its release, and they wouldn't even know about such things. In other words, they aren't keeping track of the evolution of gaming.

You don't have to own a billion consoles or play every single 9.0+ title out there to be a hardcore gamer : many "non-hardcores" restrict their choices to what has been "generally well received" or "heavily advertised" and who haven't a clue about the innings of the videogame industry. A hardcore gamer knows about great games that aren't under the radar, like Okami or Shadow Of the Colossus, and knows about games he/she hasn't even played, and yet still knows more than some people who purchased the actual game.

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Nice points, i agree with most of them
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I agree with your post.
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he's saying that teh grim and violent does not necessarily equal hardcore. i agree.clone01
Totally agree. Graphics and guns DO NOT magically = hardcore and it never will.
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#90 TaCoDuDe
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[QUOTE="meetroid8"]Having played through 4 generations(including this one) I think I should get an automatic Hardcore right.Nuck81

I disagree, I have played most and owned more than my share of every video game system since the Atari 2600 and don't consider myself "hardcore"

This obsession with having to label yourself is ludicrous

You're the one who made a topic about it. :|

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[QUOTE="---OkeyDokey---"]

i agree. people who write off games as being kiddie are not true gamers.

it also saddens me that shooting people online seems to be the definition of modern day gaming.

SaintsRowSam

so your saying if you play ninjabreadman your a true gamer?, right :lol:

What's with you and your Ninja Bread Man fetish? :lol:
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#92 Yodas_Boy
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At least us kids know how to spell "hardcore".
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#93 ArisShadows
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People who play video games down to the T, doesn't take any particular theme as playable or not, least tries something, and generally don't throw around or use the gosh forsaken term as hardcore are truely what hardcore gamers are all about. Devotion to gaming is hardcore, not what you play.
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#94 Heretix_Aevum
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I have not read any comments on this thread but here is my opinion.

NOBODY can be a hardcore gamer. People who say they are, are kidding themselves. People who play video games for hours on end are SOFT. I consider myself a pretty serious gamer, I go out of my way to play games, and I compare game ratings to diffeerent sites. But I'm not hardcore for two reasons.

1. I don't play ALL DAY.

2. I have a LIFE.

Yes, people can say "I'm hardcore" but they're not.

Now lets pretend that "Very serious" = "Hardcore". why can't someone who doesn't like the wii be ver serious? They're are allowed to NOT like it, they are allowed to call it kiddy. I still like Nintendo to an extent, but my tastes these days lie mostly with the 360 purely because of the more seriosu games. I'm not a mario Fan, but I enjoy Zelda and Metroid. I personally don't like the wii that much, but I wont be biased against it's games. ALthough I believe it to be fact that the wii does NOT have as many adult games.

all in all= People dont have to like all the consoles to be very serious gamers.

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#95 deactivated-5e9044657a310
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I have not read any comments on this thread but here is my opinion.

NOBODY can be a hardcore gamer. People who say they are, are kidding themselves. People who play video games for hours on end are SOFT. I consider myself a pretty serious gamer, I go out of my way to play games, and I compare game ratings to diffeerent sites. But I'm not hardcore for two reasons.

1. I don't play ALL DAY.

2. I have a LIFE.

Yes, people can say "I'm hardcore" but they're not.

Now lets pretend that "Very serious" = "Hardcore". why can't someone who doesn't like the wii be ver serious? They're are allowed to NOT like it, they are allowed to call it kiddy. I still like Nintendo to an extent, but my tastes these days lie mostly with the 360 purely because of the more seriosu games. I'm not a mario Fan, but I enjoy Zelda and Metroid. I personally don't like the wii that much, but I wont be biased against it's games. ALthough I believe it to be fact that the wii does NOT have as many adult games.

all in all= People dont have to like all the consoles to be very serious gamers.

curtdoggLP5

I appreciate that the majorty of the responses have been intelligent, thought provoking, and positive.