Molyneux - Gamers are bored. Need more than Call of Duty

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#1 ChubbyGuy40
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"I get crazy passionate about this - if we're not careful, we're going to bore our core gamers to death. How much bigger can our explosions get to entertain them? We're doing the same thing that Hollywood's doing with action movies. We're inventing a formula, and we're repeating it over and over again, and we're grabbing every penny from our consumers and not bothering to think about something different. And they're the people that need something different. They're our fans, and this is their hobby, man! We can't be lazy! We can't back away from creative inventiveness now, just because it costs a bit more money. Now's the time to double down on that. Is Call of Duty really it? Is that all this industry really is? If it is, then you should just shift me off to the mental asylum now."

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#2 GD1551
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I wish this guy left MS and got some more freedom on his projects.

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#3 mysticstryk
Member since 2008 • 1709 Posts

Call of Duty is boring. So lets go make an on-rails Fable game! :roll:

This guy hasn't designed a good game since the first Fable.

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#4 Led_poison
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Hes right, we need more games like Fable Heroes
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#5 Miroku32
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Oh, don't be so harsh with the guy. In the past he made good games.
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#6 Legendaryscmt
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We're also bored of him release mediocre games.

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#7 argetlam00
Member since 2006 • 6573 Posts

I still have WoW and other Blizzard games so I'm not bored...

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#8 argetlam00
Member since 2006 • 6573 Posts

Oh, don't be so harsh with the guy. In the past he made good games. Miroku32

Only thing that matters is the current gen. I could care less what you did in the past. If your games are trash now you are as much of a trash developer as the rest of the trash. Infact, I think you are even worse because the other trash never dissapointed me.

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#9 shinrabanshou
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You left out the part where Molyneux prescribes the cure for the common CoD.

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#10 tenaka2
Member since 2004 • 17958 Posts

he's right, these people don't look bored.

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#11 eboyishere
Member since 2011 • 12681 Posts
honestly the FPS genre is a bubble. When that pops it will be biblical.
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#12 DaBrainz
Member since 2007 • 7959 Posts
I've been bored with mainstream games for a long time now.
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#13 SpruceCaboose
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Lot of hate for the man, and a whole lot of ad hominem arguments here. How about you discuss what he said, not who said it? And he is absolutely right. Gaming used to cater to a huge and wide set of interests and genres. Now almost all your large budget games are FPS games. And eventually that well will be tapped out. I personally think at some point gaming will necessarily go through a reorganization where developers self fund and release their games without publishers more or less, and games with smaller budgets and larger chances for ROI will be the norm.
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#14 lordreaven
Member since 2005 • 7239 Posts

I have an idea Peter. GO MAKE BLACK AND WHITE 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!:evil:

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#15 Snaptrap
Member since 2003 • 2186 Posts

I was bored. That's why I switched to PC gaming. More than just first person shooters, racing, and sports.

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#16 SpruceCaboose
Member since 2005 • 24589 Posts

I have an idea Peter. GO MAKE BLACK AND WHITE 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!:evil:

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This is one I agree with.
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#17 Harisemo
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no one to be blamed but the gamers, they flock to CoD and if a dev tries somethingdifferent it ends up selling like sh*t.

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#18 edidili
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What makes Molyneux think gamers play only CoD?

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#19 SecretPolice
Member since 2007 • 44100 Posts

He's right so I say make next gen B.C. game and that will cure some of mah boredom. :o

Oh and I think FH could be a whole lot of fun, we shall see. :P

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#20 1oh1nine1
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There are plenty of different games out there. They may not sell, but let's face it, all the gaming media gives all their attention to the same old games in the same old genres all the time. Here at GS, an indie or less popular game may get a mention, or a preview. A blockbuster shooter, however, gets multiple previews, a 3-page glowing review, and ads plastered all over the site. If there was a shift in coverage and advertising, perhaps there'd be a shift in sales, and what's popular.

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#21 PSN-SCRODE
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What! The ps3 library has a bunch of different games. Sorry that MS sticks to that same formula.

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#22 SpruceCaboose
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What makes Molyneux think gamers play only CoD?

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I think he was meaning what games are the huge blockbusters. By and large, and for a few years now, it has been military FPS games.
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#23 SpruceCaboose
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What! The ps3 library has a bunch of different games. Sorry that MS sticks to that same formula.

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How are those CoD, BF, Killzone, and Resistance games doing on Sony's systems? Seriously, there are plenty of shooters on both systems. Just like there are plenty that aren't, but the large sellers usually have shooting elements or are sports games.
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#24 deactivated-61cf0c4baf12e
Member since 2006 • 6013 Posts

"Games are boring", not "bored" :P ot at least "Gamers are bored" :P

Anyway, I really dislike Peter M. but when he is right, he is right.

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#25 tenaka2
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How does a guy that hasn't made a good game in years get quoted like this?

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#26 elbert_b_23
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i think its ironic this coming from a man that for the past few years has only made one type of game maybe he thinks gamers are getting bored because they just no longer care about his **** that he makes
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#27 Zaibach
Member since 2007 • 13466 Posts

You live in a glass House, Molyneux, dont be throwing any stones now ;)

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#28 BibiMaghoo
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"I get crazy passionate about this - if we're not careful, we're going to bore our core gamers to death. How much bigger can our explosions get to entertain them? We're doing the same thing that Hollywood's doing with action movies. We're inventing a formula, and we're repeating it over and over again, and we're grabbing every penny from our consumers and not bothering to think about something different. And they're the people that need something different. They're our fans, and this is their hobby, man! We can't be lazy! We can't back away from creative inventiveness now, just because it costs a bit more money. Now's the time to double down on that. Is Call of Duty really it? Is that all this industry really is? If it is, then you should just shift me off to the mental asylum now."

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Is this some kind of twisted joke?

He of all people has no right to say this lol.

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#29 Heil68
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Call of Duty is boring. So lets go make an on-rails Fable game! :rollmysticstryk
 Awesome!
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#30 DeadMan1290
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Thank you for your thoughts. I hope someone hears you!

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#31 lowkey254
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I totally agree with this guy. I've been saying it for years about being bored of gaming. Some of my friends don't get it, maybe I'm at a higher intellect, or maybe we just see things different (I prefer the former :cool: ) but the same formula with very little difference is not cool to me.

This guy should really have his own team and do his own work.

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#32 rilpas
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I'd say this thread is a fine of example of what's wrong with gaming, most users agree with what Molyneux said, but because it was Molyneux who said it, they'd just rather insult him
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#33 lowkey254
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[QUOTE="PSN-SCRODE"]

What! The ps3 library has a bunch of different games. Sorry that MS sticks to that same formula.

SpruceCaboose
How are those CoD, BF, Killzone, and Resistance games doing on Sony's systems? Seriously, there are plenty of shooters on both systems. Just like there are plenty that aren't, but the large sellers usually have shooting elements or are sports games.

But there are plenty of other types of games as well. Demon Souls (at the time), Journey and Flower, Pixel Junk games, I'm not one to go on so I'll stop there. When I think of my 360 I automatically think of Halo or COD, when I think of my PS3 I think of a whole lot more than FPSs.
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#34 ZombieKiller7
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Not a fan of the Fable series but at least Molyneux doesn't do the same thing over and over, he innovates.

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#35 WreckEm711
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He's right, as usual, he's a pretty smart guy. I genuinely like Peter Molyneux, he's a nice guy, he's just way too excitable and over-ambitious, and it leads to his games not leading up to the massive expectations he creates for it. If one day he can actually get the time to execute on all that stuff, holy crap it would be a good game. Until then its just peter being peter :P

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#36 ShadowMoses900
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I wish I could beleive Molyneux, but I can't. The guy simply lies too much.

But I'm not bored, far from it! Mass Effect3 has launched and I'm excited about RE Operation Raccoon City and The Last of Us and AC3, I'm not anywhere close to being bored.

I have gotten kinda bored of COD though, I want the series to change a bit.

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#37 Masculus
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...

I was thinking. Perhaps BW would work with kinect. He's so full of stupid ideas, I wonder how come he can't come up with a good one.

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#38 AcidSoldner
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And I'm sure he'll be the one to save us... :lol:
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#39 xXShortroundXx
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Cool Story Mol.

Too bad you've never made a game worth writing home about in the last decade.

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#40 Lach0121
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no one to be blamed but the gamers, they flock to CoD and if a dev tries somethingdifferent it ends up selling like sh*t.

Harisemo

Denial of either side is just as bad as the other.

Gamers are to blame, but to blame only them is naive. Devs, pubilshers, and major marketing are just as much to blame, if not more so, than the gamers.

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#41 ChikaraShref
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regardless of who said it, its true.
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#42 vtoshkatur
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Call of Duty is boring. So lets go make an on-rails Fable game! :roll:

This guy hasn't designed a good game sinceBlack & White.

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#43 rilpas
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[QUOTE="mysticstryk"]

Call of Duty is boring. So lets go make an on-rails Fable game! :roll:

This guy hasn't designed a good game sinceBlack & White 2.

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#44 NaveedLife
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You have a point there Molyneux. Too bad you lack the skill to do anything about it.

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#45 Ross_the_Boss6
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I don't think he means to single out Call of Duty, but rather the genre.

Either way, this is funny coming from this guy.

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#46 BrunoBRS
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they need more than fable journey/heroes too.
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#47 JLF1MarkII
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There's nothing preventing people from trying any of the other 50+ genres that's on every system.

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#48 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]Lot of hate for the man, and a whole lot of ad hominem arguments here. How about you discuss what he said, not who said it? And he is absolutely right. Gaming used to cater to a huge and wide set of interests and genres. Now almost all your large budget games are FPS games. And eventually that well will be tapped out. I personally think at some point gaming will necessarily go through a reorganization where developers self fund and release their games without publishers more or less, and games with smaller budgets and larger chances for ROI will be the norm.

This! Typical of SW to jump on a man (a man who has earned his place in the industry, and is a passionate fan himself) and ignore what he's saying. Shame on you SW :( I agree though - a lot of mainstream titles revolve around the same formula - would love to see big publishers deciding to take more risks, even if it ultimately fails.
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#49 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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People bashing Molyneux as a person in this thread are pathetic.

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#50 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

[QUOTE="mysticstryk"]

Call of Duty is boring. So lets go make an on-rails Fable game! :roll:

This guy hasn't designed a good game sinceFable 2.

rilpas

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Fixed for personal preference, haven't tried 3.