Microsoft is going to dominate with Xcloud

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#51  Edited By BassMan
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Trying to game on a 6 inch screen sounds like a miserable experience.

It is. Almost as bad as playing on a 5-inch PS Vita screen or a 3.8-inch PSP screen.

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#52 Ant_17
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They won't dominate with their console, that's for sure.

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#53 jeezers
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@Ant_17: they dont need to, MS knows that PC will always be ahead anyway in hardware and have embraced that. Even with gamepass available on my PC and comming to handhelds via streaming, thier hardware is still more impressive than Sony's.

Sony better hope thier console dominates, because thats thier only avenue for making any revenue.

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#54 the_master_race
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@Ant_17 said:

They won't dominate with their console, that's for sure.

Who cares , all we need are cheap good games and cheap good services

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#55 tormentos
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@jeezers:

So what is so innovative about it?

@jeezers said:

@Pedro: i think it really depends on how well done the streaming is, if its solid with most high-speed internet its going to boost gamepass numbers big time. Everyone just got multiple handheld xbox systems, you just need to get a gamepass sub. Which is already a killer deal for how many games you get access too.

The people that like to game but dont like investing in a bunch of hardware, the casuals who just play mobile phone games might even turn into real gamers because of this service. I'm (i hate this term) but a more hardcore gamer and im stoked about it even.

MS is planting the seeds for a giant bean stalk here. This is one of the smartest moves ive seen out of anyone in the industry.

Compare it to stadia, everything stadia did wrong, MS is doing right. No hardware required, gamepass gives you access to a large catalogue, pc, phone, and tablet support. The only thing you need is to sub to gamepass. Hell you can even use a DS4 with it lmao

Yikes so MS is planting the seeds for giant bean.😂

Access to a large catalogue please define the word LARGE.

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The reason Sony bent the knee to MS

Way behind in development in cloud streaming,but wise enough to know it has a place in gaming

Yeah they are so behind that sony has the service for years and streaming on xbox hasn't even launch officially.

MS advertice more than 100 games,while sony advertise more than 800.

I wonder who really is behind.

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#57 Fairmonkey
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I thought lems didn't like streaming games

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#58 Ant_17
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@the_master_race: cheap and good? Lol

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#59  Edited By ProtossRushX
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@Fairmonkey said:

I thought lems didn't like streaming games

Yeah they hated it when it was only stadia/ps now/nvidia doing streaming and remember they hated VR too.

I could just see it now Phil Spencer announces "Xbox VR coming series X!"

lems: oh hell ya I fucking love vr now yeah this is the VR I wanted

How do these people survive in this world?

smh

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#60 General_Solo76
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Cloud gaming is a very niche market

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#61 VFighter
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Cloud gaming bwahahahahaha.

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#62 SecretPolice
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lol :P

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#63 Kadin_Kai
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Why is everyone talking about streaming on your phone. If it can stream on an Android phone it will stream to an Android TV, most probably including Chromecast.

With more of us having a fibre connection and 5G being implemented, the console itself is increasingly obsolete.

Of course if you have a slow connection and or if your data is capped, you won’t reap the benefits. But if you live in the Asia Pacific region, the chances are you‘ll have 5G and Fibre and this makes services such as Xcloud and Stadia very promising.

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#64 PC_Rocks
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@ProtossRushX said:
@pc_rocks said:

Not on iOS. That's quite a huge market they are missing out on. I believe that's more to do with Apple's anti-competitive practices than MS's wants. Pretty sure Apple initially didn't allow Steam Link and to this day you can't purchase games on Steam iOS app.

Maybe Apple wanted a cut on the game sales and valve said no, everyone else gives apple a cut on sales for things.

Not everyone and that's why you can't buy books on Kindle store and if I remember correctly yuo can't subscribe to Netflix in-app.

That's why walled gardens are bad.

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@Ant_17 said:

@the_master_race: cheap and good? Lol

Yes , I'm playing Outerworlds right now , it's really a good game :)

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#66 VFighter
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@kadin_kai: Very promising lmao, thanks I needed the laugh.

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#67  Edited By Maroxad
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@gifford38 said:
@Maroxad said:

Microsoft is moving away from the console, focusing more and more on the service.

They are not wrong to do so. Since consoles are getting increasingly obsolete. Good on MS for being an early adopter.

so 120 million ps4 sold = obsolete? besides who would play these games with that tiny screen on your phone except taking a shit and have to play every second of the day?

Becoming obsolete does not mean it is obsolete yet.

And it is more about saving money on hardware and living room space. With people being increasingly busy, the Quality of life of being able to play on the go is extremely handy, do NOT underestimate the value this brings.

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#68 Ant_17
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@the_master_race: and I'm playing fall guys. Great fun.

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#69  Edited By Gifford38
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@Maroxad said:
@gifford38 said:
@Maroxad said:

Microsoft is moving away from the console, focusing more and more on the service.

They are not wrong to do so. Since consoles are getting increasingly obsolete. Good on MS for being an early adopter.

so 120 million ps4 sold = obsolete? besides who would play these games with that tiny screen on your phone except taking a shit and have to play every second of the day?

Becoming obsolete does not mean it is obsolete yet.

And it is more about saving money on hardware and living room space. With people being increasingly busy, the Quality of life of being able to play on the go is extremely handy, do NOT underestimate the value this brings.

im still think the ps5 will sell the same amount in less time it took the ps4.

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@jeezers: The main thing is having 5G for optimal experience. I only had issues when my WiFi switched to 2G when 5G signal weakened over distance.

Other than that gameplay was good, graphics were great and input lag not bad.

Initial phase is Xcloud on mobile devices. Think next big thing will be when Xcloud comes to tvs/tablets/computers via app.

It's def fun though on mobile, they offered a good amount of games on the beta. Firing up a multiplayer match of Wreckfest was good on lunch breaks.

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#71 VFighter
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@kadin_kai: Very promising lmao, thanks I needed the laugh.

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#72 jeezers
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@BigBadBully: thats awesome, btw wreckfest rules!! I love that game, how's the graphics look on such a small screen with that game?

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@jeezers: except the switch is a dedicate piece of hardware.....not a shit phone streaming a game with lag and low resolution.

Once again, go make a streaming wars page on reddit. Get that weak sauce out of system wars. Go argue with Stadia, OnLive, and PSNow fanboys

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#74 jeezers
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@Star67: which do you think will look and run better CIV6 on Xcloud or the switch port. I own it currently on both PC and Switch but I'm willing to bet it looks better on Xcloud than on the switch.

Performance wise even, the switch version has some noticible framerate issues.

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@Star67 said:

Once again, go make a streaming wars page on reddit. Get that weak sauce out of system wars. Go argue with Stadia, OnLive, and PSNow fanboys

Keep System Wars old school and irrelevant. I like it!

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#76 jeezers
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@pyro1245: right!! lol

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@jeezers said:

@Star67: which do you think will look and run better CIV6 on Xcloud or the switch port. I own it currently on both PC and Switch but I'm willing to bet it looks better on Xcloud than on the switch.

Performance wise even, the switch version has some noticible framerate issues.

And that's just with the current Xbox One blades they're using now.. once they upgrade to Xbox Series blades, things are only going to improve..

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@Ant_17 said:

@the_master_race: and I'm playing fall guys. Great fun.

bought it today on steam , first battle royale game that I love

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@jeezers: Wreckfest looks great, I was in beta using Galaxy S6 and was crisp/clear. I'm sure experience will be even better with current tech as mobile phones/tablets offer bigger screens. But overall it works great on my old phone and was able to play online and co-op .

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#80 Ten_Pints
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I know ms want to transition everything to a service where you pay for everything monthly, but do people actually want this?

I mean sure it's slightly better option that the MS store because at least you won't 'own' the games when they shut the service down like they did with games for windows live.

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#81 Fairmonkey
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Lems don't stream games so I'm not sure

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#82 Gifford38
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@jeezers said:

@Pedro: i think it really depends on how well done the streaming is, if its solid with most high-speed internet its going to boost gamepass numbers big time. Everyone just got multiple handheld xbox systems, you just need to get a gamepass sub. Which is already a killer deal for how many games you get access too.

The people that like to game but dont like investing in a bunch of hardware, the casuals who just play mobile phone games might even turn into real gamers because of this service. I'm (i hate this term) but a more hardcore gamer and im stoked about it even.

MS is planting the seeds for a giant bean stalk here. This is one of the smartest moves ive seen out of anyone in the industry.

Compare it to stadia, everything stadia did wrong, MS is doing right. No hardware required, gamepass gives you access to a large catalogue, pc, phone, and tablet support. The only thing you need is to sub to gamepass. Hell you can even use a DS4 with it lmao

thing is do we want these types of games? service games that come out and just update them for ten years like halo? instead of making sequels. mobile gaming type games. most xbox first party will make fable and just add more content over more content instead of making a new one. why next forza is not forza 7 or 8 or 9. fable is not fable 4, halo not halo 6 etc. there going to come out in beta form not a finished project like sea of thiefs type updates.