Microsoft increases ad support on Xbox Live.

As I've said before, until PS3 has: 1. Party chat so I can talk to friends without playing the same game 2. A multiplayer shooter anywhere near as good as Halo or Gears of War I will gladly pay for Live. Ads or no ads, I don't care.Plagueless

Uncharted 3 has a higher metacritic there for it's multiplayer is vastly surperior

The less ads the better I'd say.

But apart from that sentiment, it's a bit strange that you pay quite a lot of money for something and still end up getting milked some more (be it indirectly) with advertisements.

[QUOTE="Plagueless"]As I've said before, until PS3 has: 1. Party chat so I can talk to friends without playing the same game 2. A multiplayer shooter anywhere near as good as Halo or Gears of War I will gladly pay for Live. Ads or no ads, I don't care.Pikachu69er

Uncharted 3 has a higher metacritic there for it's multiplayer is vastly surperior

If they add more ads does that mean they are going reduce the cost of of xbl subscription metal_zombie

Oh good grief, not more ads! I already pay for Xbox Live, why do you need to put ads everywhere MS?? :x

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[QUOTE="Plagueless"]As I've said before, until PS3 has: 1. Party chat so I can talk to friends without playing the same game 2. A multiplayer shooter anywhere near as good as Halo or Gears of War I will gladly pay for Live. Ads or no ads, I don't care.randomguy15

Uncharted 3 has a higher metacritic there for it's multiplayer is vastly surperior

Halo reach has a metacritic of 91, uncharted 3 has a metacritic of 92.

and uncharted 2 has a higher metacritic then halo 3

:lol:

Plus i have played halo and it's terrible, uncharted 3 has the most unique multiplayer experience to date and the community is great also

If they add more ads does that mean they are going reduce the cost of of xbl subscription metal_zombie

[QUOTE="metal_zombie"]If they add more ads does that mean they are going reduce the cost of of xbl subscription senses_fail_06

[QUOTE="senses_fail_06"][QUOTE="metal_zombie"]If they add more ads does that mean they are going reduce the cost of of xbl subscription metal_zombie

[QUOTE="senses_fail_06"][QUOTE="metal_zombie"]If they add more ads does that mean they are going reduce the cost of of xbl subscription metal_zombie

Well that is the premise of ads usually. To run free sites,services etc.

This is just microsoft wanting more money.

And I have feeling we are going to see xbox live gold price upped. Microsoft did that 2 years ago.

[QUOTE="metal_zombie"]If they add more ads does that mean they are going reduce the cost of of xbl subscription lawlessx

Go on lembots, bend over and defend your daddy.Eddie-Vedder

I don't see the problem of them increasing the amount of ads. It's not like you are able to game online or use Netflix / Facebook on any other platform. If you want to play games online, you have to subscribe to Xbox Live. PC, PS3 and Wii don't even offer the ability to play games online or the ability to use Netflix or Facebook, it can only be done on an Xbox 360.

I find it funny how every cow seems to forget the PSN hacking, isolated idenity theft victims, and how PSN goes down quite frequently. Let's not forget how they were down for like 2 months because of the hacks. But all cows say is it's free free free!! HA take that lems you must pay 100 dollarz for **** servicez herp herp. You get what you pay for, and with my time on PSN I found it bland and much worse of a UI

randomguy15

I don't see the problem of them increasing the amount of ads. It's not like you are able to game online or use Netflix / Facebook on any other platform. If you want to play games online, you have to subscribe to Xbox Live. PC, PS3 and Wii don't even offer the ability to play games online or the ability to use Netflix or Facebook, it can only be done on an Xbox 360.

arkephonic

What?

You lie. You lie to defend microsofts decision to put ads on paid service.

Lemmings low, so low...

[QUOTE="randomguy15"]

I find it funny how every cow seems to forget the PSN hacking, isolated idenity theft victims, and how PSN goes down quite frequently. Let's not forget how they were down for like 2 months because of the hacks. But all cows say is it's free free free!! HA take that lems you must pay 100 dollarz for **** servicez herp herp. You get what you pay for, and with my time on PSN I found it bland and much worse of a UI

TintedEyes

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[QUOTE="randomguy15"]

I find it funny how every cow seems to forget the PSN hacking, isolated idenity theft victims, and how PSN goes down quite frequently. Let's not forget how they were down for like 2 months because of the hacks. But all cows say is it's free free free!! HA take that lems you must pay 100 dollarz for **** servicez herp herp. You get what you pay for, and with my time on PSN I found it bland and much worse of a UI

randomguy15

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[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]people got hacked on xbl as well, so the price doesnt seem to be helping with security

TintedEyes

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"][QUOTE="randomguy15"]No, the people who got hacked on XBL was there own doing. They got tricked. Also XBL didn't go down because of it. There was a huge difference in the PSN hacks and the XBL hacks. PSN was done no matter what you did to protect your account.

randomguy15

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[QUOTE="TintedEyes"] actually no, that wasn't the fault of the user, their account wasn't protected well enough and cc exploited and because of that they cant go online for a month.navyguy21

[QUOTE="Plagueless"]As I've said before, until PS3 has: 1. Party chat so I can talk to friends without playing the same game 2. A multiplayer shooter anywhere near as good as Halo or Gears of War I will gladly pay for Live. Ads or no ads, I don't care.ShadowMoses900

So your paying $60 a year just for party chat and to play a two games online?

Because that's what you just said. Just paying for party chat and two games.

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"][QUOTE="randomguy15"]No, the people who got hacked on XBL was there own doing. They got tricked. Also XBL didn't go down because of it. There was a huge difference in the PSN hacks and the XBL hacks. PSN was done no matter what you did to protect your account.

randomguy15

Couldn't care less, to be honest. Be nice if they advertise great XBLA games more often.

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[QUOTE="mems_1224"] who wants psn to charge? People want it to not suck. Theres a difference ShadowMoses900

Lol, PSN doesn't suck. It's as superior as Xbox Live. What more would you ask for apart from online gaming, PS Store, messaging, etc?

He was just trying to justify his price, don't be so sensitive.

Also he likes to troll alot, so don't take him too seriously.

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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]what i would ask is that i be able to grab a few of my friends put them in a party and be able to keep us all together and able to speak and joke around and rag on each other the entire time we game together.

then if we want to play a different game to keep us all together and launch us into the new game.

now i know that is not a big deal to many of you here and you don't game that way but once you have it is a bummer to go back to psn and wonder if the game you are trying to play even has chat or friends list support.

Riverwolf007

Meh, a party chat... I couldn't care less about that feature and yet Microsoft still charge you £40 to use the service. Not worth it, buddy.

All that is needed is online gaming, friends list, messaging and PS Store. They are the "core" features. I couldn't ask for more.

there is nothing even close to that on psn and the way sony runs psn you are lucky to even get a friends list support at all.

hell, look at gran turismo, that game didn't even have friends list support, to find your buddys you either scrolled through hundreds of races to find the ones they are in OR you typed in a 20 digit code.

a 20 digit code...... in sonys flagship racer.

if lame crap like that ever happened in a 360 title you dudes would never let lems live it down.

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[QUOTE="Grawse"]How soon until there are 15 second pre roll ads when starting your game?ShadowMoses900

Oh god. I'd commit suicide if that happens.

Well you might not want to watch this:

Interactive TV Ads and Ad Sharing - Microsoft Advertising - YouTube

Basically MS is going to encourage people to share ads with their freinds over XBL and upload them to Twitter and Facebook ect...and some of these ads are going to be "interactive" with Kinect. The CEO in the video goes on to say that "Teenagers are social creatures" and that "they enjoy sharing things they are exposed too"

That basically confirms the Xbox's target audience are kids. Just look at the dashboard layout, big colorful boxes with cartoon disney-like avatars.

Smart business move for MS.

If I owned the company I would expoit that herd of cattle they call "customers."

However as a consumer, I'd never join that herd.

Sony treats their customers better imo.

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]Why does it seem like only cows that are worried about Live fees, Ads, prices, etc?ShadowMoses900

Why does it seem like only lems care about PSN being free and wanting them to charge, cross game chat ect...?

Why is it that I play Xbox live every day, yet I NEVER see ads, or even acknowlege that these alleged "ads" exist, until I come to system wars?

[QUOTE="metal_zombie"][QUOTE="senses_fail_06"]No, the people who got hacked on XBL was there own doing. They got tricked. Also XBL didn't go down because of it. There was a huge difference in the PSN hacks and the XBL hacks. PSN was done no matter what you did to protect your account.

lawlessx

no he is lying the recent ""hacks"" were all sourced outside of microsoft servers or on a user level, EA forums may have been hacked, BUT quite a few people were answering free ms point pms, free achievements...etc and just gave away their info then got pissed. so yes tinted is lying his guts out.
P.S: no posts on neogaf change that neogaf is not the bastion of truth in this world or on the internet.

My personal opinion is this.
This is the reason I won't be renewing my xbox live subscription in june of 2013 I refuse to pay for a service and also watch ad's. So far 2 people have said you can disable 3rd party ad's on the dashboard I know of no way to do this and I'm an xbox ambassador am able to go onto raptr,msn messenger or any chat program that allows for access to msn messenger and answer questions that users post to the ambassdor bots. Now while you can opt out of 3rd party advertisments to your email and such I know of no way to disable such ad's on your dashboard so I would appreciate If instructions were posted on how to do this. The only other way I know of is by blocking access to certain advertisement servers through your router which is spotty at best *its only ever worked for me once and it worked for a day*

Microsoft makes record profits off xbox live fee's, advertisements, and downloadable content there is no reason for them to have ad's and if they have ad's then they need to get rid of xbox live fee's, I had no problem with the ad's with the last dashboard there were few of them gaming was given prominence, the latest dashboard is 30 ad's full compared to only 5 on the last dashboard, And the ad's take up far more space then they ever did before with your gaming given far smaller presence.

My personal opinion is this.
This is the reason I won't be renewing my xbox live subscription in june of 2013 I refuse to pay for a service and also watch ad's. So far 2 people have said you can disable 3rd party ad's on the dashboard I know of no way to do this and I'm an xbox ambassador am able to go onto raptr,msn messenger or any chat program that allows for access to msn messenger and answer questions that users post to the ambassdor bots. Now while you can opt out of 3rd party advertisments to your email and such I know of no way to disable such ad's on your dashboard so I would appreciate If instructions were posted on how to do this. The only other way I know of is by blocking access to certain advertisement servers through your router which is spotty at best *its only ever worked for me once and it worked for a day*

Microsoft makes record profits off xbox live fee's, advertisements, and downloadable content there is no reason for them to have ad's and if they have ad's then they need to get rid of xbox live fee's, I had no problem with the ad's with the last dashboard there were few of them gaming was given prominence, the latest dashboard is 30 ad's full compared to only 5 on the last dashboard, And the ad's take up far more space then they ever did before with your gaming given far smaller presence.
WilliamRLBaker

Good opinion.

I won't go as far as to say Xbox 360 is "bad value" it's not.

It's a good system. Very good. Rivals anything I have used.

But on a personal enjoyment level, ads do suck out the fun of the system, make it alot less personal and alot less fun to use.

So while MS is getting more profits from ads, they are also certainly losing some customers such as myself who don't enjoy grotesquely commercial environments, and prefer a more "clean" interface that feels more homey and intimate.

I have been unsubscribed from Xbox Live for 3 weeks now and playing on my PS3 mostly. It feels good so far.

Only bad thing is I miss some of my friends on Xbox Live.

that video received almost 8000 dislikes. I guess the 210 likes come from Microsoft's employees.

I lost faith in Microsoft and I own an xbox 360, but it's become a matter of principle and I will stick to pc gaming mostly and play some nintendo games. Ps3 is still good to watch bluray moives. but the 360? I really have no idea what to do with it.

I don't see the problem of them increasing the amount of ads. It's not like you are able to game online or use Netflix / Facebook on any other platform. If you want to play games online, you have to subscribe to Xbox Live. PC, PS3 and Wii don't even offer the ability to play games online or the ability to use Netflix or Facebook, it can only be done on an Xbox 360.

arkephonic

What? You can play online and use Netflix on PS3.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/169153/Microsoft_expands_network_of_TVlike_ads_on_Xbox_Live.php

Microsoft has to make money somehow!

GameShtopper

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

I don't see the problem of them increasing the amount of ads. It's not like you are able to game online or use Netflix / Facebook on any other platform. If you want to play games online, you have to subscribe to Xbox Live. PC, PS3 and Wii don't even offer the ability to play games online or the ability to use Netflix or Facebook, it can only be done on an Xbox 360.

GamerwillzPS

What? You can play online and use Netflix on PS3.

Yep you sure do get what you pay for right Lems?

Only thing you can do with a Gold subscription that you can't do with a Silver subscription is online play and Party Chat, oh and Netflix access as well as Facebook and Twitter. But you don't pay the fee for that stuff, you just pay it to play online, which is FREE everywhere else.

It's funny (and sad) that there are people that actually defend this crap, they are the reason why MS get's away with this and they are to blame when MS raises the price of XBL (which they will do again, mark my words, we all know it's going to happen again down the road).

XBL is nothing more than a rental service, you don't fully own your games, you just own a portion of them and MS owns the rest.

ShadowMoses900

not sure if serious or just dumb..

[QUOTE="Karnage108"][QUOTE="TintedEyes"] None on steam like liveYoshiYogurt

hilarious seriously, why is it cows care so much about this ? :lol:

[QUOTE="GameShtopper"]

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/169153/Microsoft_expands_network_of_TVlike_ads_on_Xbox_Live.php

Microsoft has to make money somehow!

dommeus

I can tell why I dislike MS's gaming division now.

Overpriced 360 accessories.

ONLINE GAMING (forget party chat and other service thing) costs. Most of 360 games use p2p system anyway, meaning it uses your consoles and internet (which you pay/paid). Besides battlefield servers are upkeeped by EA, not MS. So if I already pay battlefield 3 (which gives me multiplayer). Why the fvck I have to pay gold live to play it online. I can understand party chat, its upkeeped by microsoft servers. Split service and online gaming.

MS points system is scam

Too much focus on kinect now. They have about 10 first party developers? 2 of the makes non kinect games, 343 and turn 10 (forza has kinect support too). I think they focus too much on "casuals" now, case in point fable series. Im going to give them plus for Halo 4. It looks great.

people pay for cable and dont moan bout ads.

XBL is ran as a for profit system, sure MS is gonna expose it as much as possible, outside this board i bet around 90% of gamers dont care.

[QUOTE="dommeus"][QUOTE="GameShtopper"]

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/169153/Microsoft_expands_network_of_TVlike_ads_on_Xbox_Live.php

Microsoft has to make money somehow!

Nohtnym

I can tell why I dislike MS's gaming division now.

Overpriced 360 accessories.

ONLINE GAMING (forget party chat and other service thing) costs. Most of 360 games use p2p system anyway, meaning it uses your consoles and internet (which you pay/paid). Besides battlefield servers are upkeeped by EA, not MS. So if I already pay battlefield 3 (which gives me multiplayer). Why the fvck I have to pay gold live to play it online. I can understand party chat, its upkeeped by microsoft servers. Split service and online gaming.

MS points system is scam

Too much focus on kinect now. They have about 10 first party developers? 2 of the makes non kinect games, 343 and turn 10 (forza has kinect support too). I think they focus too much on "casuals" now, case in point fable series. Im going to give them plus for Halo 4. It looks great.

[QUOTE="Nohtnym"]

[QUOTE="dommeus"] Why you hate MS so much?WilliamRLBaker

I can tell why I dislike MS's gaming division now.

Overpriced 360 accessories.

ONLINE GAMING (forget party chat and other service thing) costs. Most of 360 games use p2p system anyway, meaning it uses your consoles and internet (which you pay/paid). Besides battlefield servers are upkeeped by EA, not MS. So if I already pay battlefield 3 (which gives me multiplayer). Why the fvck I have to pay gold live to play it online. I can understand party chat, its upkeeped by microsoft servers. Split service and online gaming.

MS points system is scam

Too much focus on kinect now. They have about 10 first party developers? 2 of the makes non kinect games, 343 and turn 10 (forza has kinect support too). I think they focus too much on "casuals" now, case in point fable series. Im going to give them plus for Halo 4. It looks great.

What...

I didnt speak anything about ps3. Neither did the guy who I quoted. Fact remains 360 accessories are overpriced.

My point about p2p is that its uses your consoles (which you paid) and you internet(isp, which you are paying), it doesnt use MS servers (except party chat, but I pointed "split online gaming and service", they cant do it anymore though).

I dont use bing, nice if you get bonuses. Still I think MS point system is scam. Ms should already switch to real currency, not use bullsh*t.

In other news, mah cable rates keep going up and to add insult to injury, the frequency of Commercials on those cable stations seem to be increasing at even a faster rate. :o

Just who do these freakin for profit companies think they are anyway. :twisted:

On topic, haven't noticed. :P

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="Nohtnym"]

I can tell why I dislike MS's gaming division now.

Overpriced 360 accessories.

ONLINE GAMING (forget party chat and other service thing) costs. Most of 360 games use p2p system anyway, meaning it uses your consoles and internet (which you pay/paid). Besides battlefield servers are upkeeped by EA, not MS. So if I already pay battlefield 3 (which gives me multiplayer). Why the fvck I have to pay gold live to play it online. I can understand party chat, its upkeeped by microsoft servers. Split service and online gaming.

MS points system is scam

Too much focus on kinect now. They have about 10 first party developers? 2 of the makes non kinect games, 343 and turn 10 (forza has kinect support too). I think they focus too much on "casuals" now, case in point fable series. Im going to give them plus for Halo 4. It looks great.

Nohtnym

What...

I didnt speak anything about ps3. Neither did the guy who I quoted. Fact remains 360 accessories are overpriced.

My point about p2p is that its uses your consoles (which you paid) and you internet(isp, which you are paying), it doesnt use MS servers (except party chat, but I pointed "split online gaming and service", they cant do it anymore though).

I dont use bing, nice if you get bonuses. Still I think MS point system is scam. Ms should already switch to real currency, not use bullsh*t.

to all the lems defending this, i bought you ppl something...

people pay for cable and dont moan bout ads.

XBL is ran as a for profit system, sure MS is gonna expose it as much as possible, outside this board i bet around 90% of gamers dont care.

razgriz_101