Lets face it , XBOX 360 wont be number 1 this gen

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#1 Kakarot00769
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i do want MS to be number 1 ..why ?? cuz they have the deep pockets to take our industry forward , Nintendo saved us from the videogame crash in 1984 , Sony has removed the image that videogames are just for kids ,now i want to believe that it's MS time to take the torch from sony and see what can the world's biggest corporation do to our industry , however if MS consoles are  not selling well in key regions like japan and europe how can it be number 1 ? ..the 360 will have to dominate sales in north america (the biggest market ) to do it ,and it has not happened yet.

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#2 tacubano
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November 2007 might change your opinion
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It isn't only deep pockets that'll take this industry forward. Imagination and know how will play a fundamental part. With Home and Little Big Planet Sony clearly have both. They aren't lacking in the resources department either...
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I actually agree with you. The way the sales trends are going so far the Wii, and the NPDs it could end up taking the number 1 spot.
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November 2007 might change your opiniontacubano

why ?

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[QUOTE="tacubano"]November 2007 might change your opinionKakarot00769

why ?

GTA4 + Halo 3.

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[QUOTE="tacubano"]November 2007 might change your opinionKakarot00769

why ?

GTA and Halo 3 are available on the same console and those two games are the two most powerful IPs in America. But he's not thinking about world wide numbers.
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#8 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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Yes they will. Reason: The Second System Rule states: A companys second try in the videogame market will dominate ex. SNES, PS2.
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It's selling the most so far.
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Going against America's console? There's only one explanation We have in our midst.. a terrorist!
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Nintendo owns this gen. :(
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Nintendo owns this gen. :(BioShockOwnz
we will see
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[QUOTE="Kakarot00769"]

[QUOTE="tacubano"]November 2007 might change your opinionDaysAirlines

why ?

GTA and Halo 3 are available on the same console and those two games are the two most powerful IPs in America. But he's not thinking about world wide numbers.

Hale most powerful IP in America? I think Devil May Cry, MGS and Final Fantasy will have something to say about that...
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[QUOTE="Kakarot00769"]

[QUOTE="tacubano"]November 2007 might change your opinionDaysAirlines

why ?

GTA and Halo 3 are available on the same console and those two games are the two most powerful IPs in America. But he's not thinking about world wide numbers.

I'd debate Halo and GTA are the two most powerful IPs in the US. I'm thinking Madden, The Sims, Warcraft, have a bit more sway than Halo definitely, and The Sims than GTA.
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[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Kakarot00769"]

[QUOTE="tacubano"]November 2007 might change your opinionDanm_999

why ?

GTA and Halo 3 are available on the same console and those two games are the two most powerful IPs in America. But he's not thinking about world wide numbers.

I'd debate Halo and GTA are the two most powerful IPs in the US.

I second that debate.
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[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Kakarot00769"]

[QUOTE="tacubano"]November 2007 might change your opinionRashpal

why ?

GTA and Halo 3 are available on the same console and those two games are the two most powerful IPs in America. But he's not thinking about world wide numbers.

Hale most powerful IP in America? I think Devil May Cry, MGS and Final Fantasy will have something to say about that...

Halo 2 sold over 2 million copies it's first night, I don't think you can say the same for any of those franchises.

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[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Kakarot00769"]

[QUOTE="tacubano"]November 2007 might change your opinionRashpal

why ?

GTA and Halo 3 are available on the same console and those two games are the two most powerful IPs in America. But he's not thinking about world wide numbers.

Halo most powerful IP in America? I think Devil May Cry, MGS and Final Fantasy will have something to say about that...

I disagree with Devil May Cry and Final Fantasy (It's at like 17). MGS maybe, but I don't think that game has little if any online to be able to compete with Halo.
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[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Kakarot00769"]

[QUOTE="tacubano"]November 2007 might change your opinionRashpal

why ?

GTA and Halo 3 are available on the same console and those two games are the two most powerful IPs in America. But he's not thinking about world wide numbers.

Hale most powerful IP in America? I think Devil May Cry, MGS and Final Fantasy will have something to say about that...

Okay do you really want to go there? I'll give you something real. Halo 2 - 6.11 million in America GTA: SA = 7.89 million in America Now, yours. DMC 3 = 0.73 million in America MGS3 = 1.42 million in America Final Fantasy XII = 1.68 million in America here is my Source Oh and you better respond to this post.
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#19 tacubano
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Halo, GTA and maybe WoW are the biggest games in America.....
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[QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Kakarot00769"]

[QUOTE="tacubano"]November 2007 might change your opinionAljosa23

why ?

GTA and Halo 3 are available on the same console and those two games are the two most powerful IPs in America. But he's not thinking about world wide numbers.

Halo most powerful IP in America? I think Devil May Cry, MGS and Final Fantasy will have something to say about that...

I disagree with Devil May Cry and Final Fantasy (It's at like 17). MGS maybe, but I don't think that game has little if any online to be able to compete with Halo.

I don't think online has that big a difference on the fanbase of the games. After all a larger number of Halo's fanbase play the game offline only.
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#21 Rashpal
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[QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Kakarot00769"]

[QUOTE="tacubano"]November 2007 might change your opinionDaysAirlines

why ?

GTA and Halo 3 are available on the same console and those two games are the two most powerful IPs in America. But he's not thinking about world wide numbers.

Hale most powerful IP in America? I think Devil May Cry, MGS and Final Fantasy will have something to say about that...

Okay do you really want to go there? I'll give you something real. Halo 2 - 6.11 million in America GTA: SA = 7.89 million in America Now, yours. DMC 3 = 0.73 million in America MGS3 = 1.42 million in America Final Fantasy XII = 1.68 million in America here is my Source Oh and you better respond to this post.

The credibility of your source is questionable, but lets say for arguements sake it's sound, those numbers don't reflect the standing of each franchise in the global market. Halo in Europe for example is held in much less esteem than America and certainly in Japan the game is non-existent.
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[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Kakarot00769"]

[QUOTE="tacubano"]November 2007 might change your opinionRashpal

why ?

GTA and Halo 3 are available on the same console and those two games are the two most powerful IPs in America. But he's not thinking about world wide numbers.

Hale most powerful IP in America? I think Devil May Cry, MGS and Final Fantasy will have something to say about that...

Okay do you really want to go there? I'll give you something real. Halo 2 - 6.11 million in America GTA: SA = 7.89 million in America Now, yours. DMC 3 = 0.73 million in America MGS3 = 1.42 million in America Final Fantasy XII = 1.68 million in America here is my Source Oh and you better respond to this post.

The credibility of your source is questionable, but lets say for arguements sake it's sound, those numbers don't reflect the standing of each franchise in the global market. Halo in Europe for example is held in much less esteem than America and certainly in Japan the game is non-existent.

We're talking about the American market though. 

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I agree and I don't expect the 360 to win but it will have a lot of games and if you want current gen graphics it has the best price. It's good to have 3 consoles to choose from and to see them all doing well enough to stay in the market. Gamers are the big winners this generation.
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I'm sorry, but MS is the last of the big 3 that I would want to be the industry leader. The reason I feel this way is because the one company that has the power, resources, and MONEY to have a monopoly over the gaming industry is definitely MS. If MS became the industry leader, do you really think they would just stop there? The answer is HELL NO, and you can see that with their operating systems because there is hardly any competition which only hurts us, the consumer. The same exact thing would happen to the gaming industry. Seriously, MS would either come out with a new system every 3 years or just marginally improve their product because their is no competition which means their is no incentive to innovate or make their product better. And you would have to buy it, or you just give up playing video games. Now don't get me wrong, I wouldn't want any of the big 3 to have a monopoly over the game industry. I just think MS has the biggest possibility of getting one IMO.

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[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Kakarot00769"]

[QUOTE="tacubano"]November 2007 might change your opinionRashpal

why ?

GTA and Halo 3 are available on the same console and those two games are the two most powerful IPs in America. But he's not thinking about world wide numbers.

Hale most powerful IP in America? I think Devil May Cry, MGS and Final Fantasy will have something to say about that...

Okay do you really want to go there? I'll give you something real. Halo 2 - 6.11 million in America GTA: SA = 7.89 million in America Now, yours. DMC 3 = 0.73 million in America MGS3 = 1.42 million in America Final Fantasy XII = 1.68 million in America here is my Source Oh and you better respond to this post.

The credibility of your source is questionable, but lets say for arguements sake it's sound, those numbers don't reflect the standing of each franchise in the global market. Halo in Europe for example is held in much less esteem than America and certainly in Japan the game is non-existent.

You want World Wide Numbers? I thought we were talking about America. I can post World Wide numbers if you want them. Halo 2 7.89 GTA SA 14.88 DMC3 1.62 MGS3 3.96 FFXII 4.94 Hey what do you know? I'm still right.
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#26 DaysAirlines
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We're talking about the American market though.TyrantDragon55
I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. But I posted the World Wide numbers as well and I'm still right.
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[QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"]We're talking about the American market though.DaysAirlines
I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. But I posted the World Wide numbers as well and I'm still right.



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Yes they will. Reason: The Second System Rule states: A companys second try in the videogame market will dominate ex. SNES, PS2.Aljosa23
Except PS1 and NES also dominated, XBOX didn't. That rule fails. (not saying 360 won't win this gen though)
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[QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Kakarot00769"][QUOTE="tacubano"]November 2007 might change your opinionTyrantDragon55
why ?

GTA and Halo 3 are available on the same console and those two games are the two most powerful IPs in America. But he's not thinking about world wide numbers.

Hale most powerful IP in America? I think Devil May Cry, MGS and Final Fantasy will have something to say about that...

Okay do you really want to go there? I'll give you something real. Halo 2 - 6.11 million in America GTA: SA = 7.89 million in America Now, yours. DMC 3 = 0.73 million in America MGS3 = 1.42 million in America Final Fantasy XII = 1.68 million in America here is my Source Oh and you better respond to this post.

The credibility of your source is questionable, but lets say for arguements sake it's sound, those numbers don't reflect the standing of each franchise in the global market. Halo in Europe for example is held in much less esteem than America and certainly in Japan the game is non-existent.

We're talking about the American market though. 

The topic isn't.
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I'm sorry, but MS is the last of the big 3 that I would want to be the industry leader. The reason I feel this way is because the one company that has the power, resources, and MONEY to have a monopoly over the gaming industry is definitely MS. peaceful_anger

Considering MS will not likely ever be able to beat Sony or Nintendo in their home market I think MS is the least likely company to ever have a monopoly. Sony would be the most likely and last gen they had a near monopoly with the PS2. If the Xbox had not entered the market they would have been a lot closer. The idea of Xbox being #1 in Japan sounds a lot more far fetched to me than Playstation being #1 in America or PAL regions (that happened last gen in fact) and without all of the big three markets they will never have a monopoly.

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Awe poor cows still upset that Sony came so week and MS is cleaning up. Lets face it 360 has better graphics better games better support better online better multi media
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The topic isn't. Rashpal
I was arguing this:
Hale most powerful IP in America? I think Devil May Cry, MGS and Final Fantasy will have something to say about that...Rashpal
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[QUOTE="Rashpal"]The topic isn't. DaysAirlines
I was arguing this:
Hale most powerful IP in America? I think Devil May Cry, MGS and Final Fantasy will have something to say about that...Rashpal



DaysAirlines wins argument hands down, with evidence its time to walk away. You have been owned.

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I'm sorry, but MS is the last of the big 3 that I would want to be the industry leader. The reason I feel this way is because the one company that has the power, resources, and MONEY to have a monopoly over the gaming industry is definitely MS. If MS became the industry leader, do you really think they would just stop there? The answer is HELL NO, and you can see that with their operating systems because there is hardly any competition which only hurts us, the consumer. The same exact thing would happen to the gaming industry. Seriously, MS would either come out with a new system every 3 years or just marginally improve their product because their is no competition which means their is no incentive to innovate or make their product better. And you would have to buy it, or you just give up playing video games. Now don't get me wrong, I wouldn't want any of the big 3 to have a monopoly over the game industry. I just think MS has the biggest possibility of getting one IMO.

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I sort of agree. Of all the conpanies I believe MS's monopoly on the market would be the most demaging to the industry.
[QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Kakarot00769"]

[QUOTE="tacubano"]November 2007 might change your opinionDaysAirlines

why ?

GTA and Halo 3 are available on the same console and those two games are the two most powerful IPs in America. But he's not thinking about world wide numbers.

Hale most powerful IP in America? I think Devil May Cry, MGS and Final Fantasy will have something to say about that...

Okay do you really want to go there? I'll give you something real. Halo 2 - 6.11 million in America GTA: SA = 7.89 million in America Now, yours. DMC 3 = 0.73 million in America MGS3 = 1.42 million in America Final Fantasy XII = 1.68 million in America here is my Source Oh and you better respond to this post.

The credibility of your source is questionable, but lets say for arguements sake it's sound, those numbers don't reflect the standing of each franchise in the global market. Halo in Europe for example is held in much less esteem than America and certainly in Japan the game is non-existent.

You want World Wide Numbers? I thought we were talking about America. I can post World Wide numbers if you want them. Halo 2 7.89 GTA SA 14.88 DMC3 1.62 MGS3 3.96 FFXII 4.94 Hey what do you know? I'm still right.

Like I said the credibility of your source is questionable...
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Like I said the credibility of your source is questionable...Rashpal
Of course it's questionable, I guess that's all that is left to say when I bring up evidence and you don't.
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[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"]We're talking about the American market though.aDDiKt24
I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. But I posted the World Wide numbers as well and I'm still right.



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Um, the thread is about MS not becoming the leading games hardware manufacturer...
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Like I said the credibility of your source is questionable...Rashpal

Then please, find us a credible source that proves him wrong.

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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]Yes they will. Reason: The Second System Rule states: A companys second try in the videogame market will dominate ex. SNES, PS2.ultima-flare
Except PS1 and NES also dominated, XBOX didn't. That rule fails. (not saying 360 won't win this gen though)

Also, Saturn didn't dominate.
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I'm sorry, but MS is the last of the big 3 that I would want to be the industry leader. The reason I feel this way is because the one company that has the power, resources, and MONEY to have a monopoly over the gaming industry is definitely MS. If MS became the industry leader, do you really think they would just stop there? The answer is HELL NO, and you can see that with their operating systems because there is hardly any competition which only hurts us, the consumer. The same exact thing would happen to the gaming industry. Seriously, MS would either come out with a new system every 3 years or just marginally improve their product because their is no competition which means their is no incentive to innovate or make their product better. And you would have to buy it, or you just give up playing video games. Now don't get me wrong, I wouldn't want any of the big 3 to have a monopoly over the game industry. I just think MS has the biggest possibility of getting one IMO.

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If MS win, it will be their second monoply. However, no matter how much lemmings keep saying about the X360 games will make it win its still does not have significant market in Japan (losing more than 25-30% of the video game market share). That is why Microsoft are so stubbornly appealing in Japan. Sure, X360 has JRPGs but very few. You gamers have no idea how many JRPGs and other Japanese game genre are developed in Japan that will never see the light in the X360. For every one JRPG exclusive in X360 there will be 20+ available for PS3 and perhaps for Wii. Few Japanese games are imported to North America and Europe than people thought because it appeals mainly on Japan. X360 are stubbornly pushing for online gaming that the PC online already is dominating in Japan, Korea, and south-east asian countries. They prefer way more to PC online & Lan party than console online because to them it's cheaper, requirements are not high for specs, and PC is a necessity component than entertainment.
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Cows always have an excuse for everytime they get owned. They can never just except ownage. Rasphail you are arguing against facts. Are you that blind?
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[QUOTE="Rashpal"]Like I said the credibility of your source is questionable...DaysAirlines
Of course it's questionable, I guess that's all that is left to say when I bring up evidence and you don't.

2 mins of research isn't evidence... back up your "evidence" with further research and then you have an argument. At the moment you have one source. If you want disprove my thoery then come up with a strong argument.
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I'm sorry, but MS is the last of the big 3 that I would want to be the industry leader. The reason I feel this way is because the one company that has the power, resources, and MONEY to have a monopoly over the gaming industry is definitely MS. If MS became the industry leader, do you really think they would just stop there? The answer is HELL NO, and you can see that with their operating systems because there is hardly any competition which only hurts us, the consumer. The same exact thing would happen to the gaming industry. Seriously, MS would either come out with a new system every 3 years or just marginally improve their product because their is no competition which means their is no incentive to innovate or make their product better. And you would have to buy it, or you just give up playing video games. Now don't get me wrong, I wouldn't want any of the big 3 to have a monopoly over the game industry. I just think MS has the biggest possibility of getting one IMO.

Zaistev_basic

If MS win, it will be their second monoply. However, no matter how much lemmings keep saying about the X360 games will make it win its still does not have significant market in Japan (losing more than 25-30% of the video game market share). That is why Microsoft are so stubbornly appealing in Japan. Sure, X360 has JRPGs but very few. You gamers have no idea how many JRPGs and other Japanese game genre are developed in Japan that will never see the light in the X360. For every one JRPG exclusive in X360 there will be 20+ available for PS3 and perhaps for Wii. Few Japanese games are imported to North America and Europe than people thought because it appeals mainly on Japan. X360 are stubbornly pushing for online gaming that the PC market already is dominating in Japan, Korea, and south-east asian countries. They prefer way more to PC online than console online because to them it's cheaper and does not require top notch graphics.

Microsoft winning this console war would not give them a monopoly, it would just make them the industry leader. the only way microsof could get a monopoly on the game industry is if Sony and Nintendo went out of business.

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#43 Rashpal
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[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Rashpal"]The topic isn't. aDDiKt24
I was arguing this:
Hale most powerful IP in America? I think Devil May Cry, MGS and Final Fantasy will have something to say about that...Rashpal



DaysAirlines wins argument hands down, with evidence its time to walk away. You have been owned.

/ARGUMENT

Maybe it's time for you to grown up..
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[QUOTE="Zaistev_basic"][QUOTE="peaceful_anger"]

I'm sorry, but MS is the last of the big 3 that I would want to be the industry leader. The reason I feel this way is because the one company that has the power, resources, and MONEY to have a monopoly over the gaming industry is definitely MS. If MS became the industry leader, do you really think they would just stop there? The answer is HELL NO, and you can see that with their operating systems because there is hardly any competition which only hurts us, the consumer. The same exact thing would happen to the gaming industry. Seriously, MS would either come out with a new system every 3 years or just marginally improve their product because their is no competition which means their is no incentive to innovate or make their product better. And you would have to buy it, or you just give up playing video games. Now don't get me wrong, I wouldn't want any of the big 3 to have a monopoly over the game industry. I just think MS has the biggest possibility of getting one IMO.

TyrantDragon55

If MS win, it will be their second monoply. However, no matter how much lemmings keep saying about the X360 games will make it win its still does not have significant market in Japan (losing more than 25-30% of the video game market share). That is why Microsoft are so stubbornly appealing in Japan. Sure, X360 has JRPGs but very few. You gamers have no idea how many JRPGs and other Japanese game genre are developed in Japan that will never see the light in the X360. For every one JRPG exclusive in X360 there will be 20+ available for PS3 and perhaps for Wii. Few Japanese games are imported to North America and Europe than people thought because it appeals mainly on Japan. X360 are stubbornly pushing for online gaming that the PC market already is dominating in Japan, Korea, and south-east asian countries. They prefer way more to PC online than console online because to them it's cheaper and does not require top notch graphics.

Microsoft winning this console war would not give them a monopoly, it would just make them the industry leader. the only way microsof could get a monopoly on the game industry is if Sony and Nintendo went out of business.

They don't have a monopoly in the PC OS market either.
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#45 Zaistev_basic
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[QUOTE="Zaistev_basic"][QUOTE="peaceful_anger"]

I'm sorry, but MS is the last of the big 3 that I would want to be the industry leader. The reason I feel this way is because the one company that has the power, resources, and MONEY to have a monopoly over the gaming industry is definitely MS. If MS became the industry leader, do you really think they would just stop there? The answer is HELL NO, and you can see that with their operating systems because there is hardly any competition which only hurts us, the consumer. The same exact thing would happen to the gaming industry. Seriously, MS would either come out with a new system every 3 years or just marginally improve their product because their is no competition which means their is no incentive to innovate or make their product better. And you would have to buy it, or you just give up playing video games. Now don't get me wrong, I wouldn't want any of the big 3 to have a monopoly over the game industry. I just think MS has the biggest possibility of getting one IMO.

TyrantDragon55

If MS win, it will be their second monoply. However, no matter how much lemmings keep saying about the X360 games will make it win its still does not have significant market in Japan (losing more than 25-30% of the video game market share). That is why Microsoft are so stubbornly appealing in Japan. Sure, X360 has JRPGs but very few. You gamers have no idea how many JRPGs and other Japanese game genre are developed in Japan that will never see the light in the X360. For every one JRPG exclusive in X360 there will be 20+ available for PS3 and perhaps for Wii. Few Japanese games are imported to North America and Europe than people thought because it appeals mainly on Japan. X360 are stubbornly pushing for online gaming that the PC market already is dominating in Japan, Korea, and south-east asian countries. They prefer way more to PC online than console online because to them it's cheaper and does not require top notch graphics.

Microsoft winning this console war would not give them a monopoly, it would just make them the industry leader. the only way microsof could get a monopoly on the game industry is if Sony and Nintendo went out of business.

Not yet of course but who is stopping them for using the same tactics like they did to the PC industry. YOu are underestimating Microsoft. They are the only one who are capable of destroying competition.
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#46 TyrantDragon55
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[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Rashpal"]Like I said the credibility of your source is questionable...Rashpal
Of course it's questionable, I guess that's all that is left to say when I bring up evidence and you don't.

2 mins of research isn't evidence... back up your "evidence" with further research and then you have an argument. At the moment you have one source. If you want disprove my thoery then come up with a strong argument.

Once again, please show us a credible source that proves him wrong.

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[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Rashpal"]Like I said the credibility of your source is questionable...Rashpal
Of course it's questionable, I guess that's all that is left to say when I bring up evidence and you don't.

2 mins of research isn't evidence... back up your "evidence" with further research and then you have an argument. At the moment you have one source. If you want disprove my thoery then come up with a strong argument.



SHouldnt you be the one backing up your own theory with evidence?
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[QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"][QUOTE="Zaistev_basic"][QUOTE="peaceful_anger"]

I'm sorry, but MS is the last of the big 3 that I would want to be the industry leader. The reason I feel this way is because the one company that has the power, resources, and MONEY to have a monopoly over the gaming industry is definitely MS. If MS became the industry leader, do you really think they would just stop there? The answer is HELL NO, and you can see that with their operating systems because there is hardly any competition which only hurts us, the consumer. The same exact thing would happen to the gaming industry. Seriously, MS would either come out with a new system every 3 years or just marginally improve their product because their is no competition which means their is no incentive to innovate or make their product better. And you would have to buy it, or you just give up playing video games. Now don't get me wrong, I wouldn't want any of the big 3 to have a monopoly over the game industry. I just think MS has the biggest possibility of getting one IMO.

Danm_999

If MS win, it will be their second monoply. However, no matter how much lemmings keep saying about the X360 games will make it win its still does not have significant market in Japan (losing more than 25-30% of the video game market share). That is why Microsoft are so stubbornly appealing in Japan. Sure, X360 has JRPGs but very few. You gamers have no idea how many JRPGs and other Japanese game genre are developed in Japan that will never see the light in the X360. For every one JRPG exclusive in X360 there will be 20+ available for PS3 and perhaps for Wii. Few Japanese games are imported to North America and Europe than people thought because it appeals mainly on Japan. X360 are stubbornly pushing for online gaming that the PC market already is dominating in Japan, Korea, and south-east asian countries. They prefer way more to PC online than console online because to them it's cheaper and does not require top notch graphics.

Microsoft winning this console war would not give them a monopoly, it would just make them the industry leader. the only way microsof could get a monopoly on the game industry is if Sony and Nintendo went out of business.

They don't have a monopoly in the PC OS market either.

93% is considered a monopoly no matter how you put it. 60% for oligopoly.
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[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Rashpal"]Like I said the credibility of your source is questionable...Rashpal
Of course it's questionable, I guess that's all that is left to say when I bring up evidence and you don't.

2 mins of research isn't evidence... back up your "evidence" with further research and then you have an argument. At the moment you have one source. If you want disprove my thoery then come up with a strong argument.

I have nothing left to back up. You haven't provided any single piece of evidence whatsoever and I have nothing left to defend. And oh by the way. That "uncredible" website you keep talking about is the one System Wars voted on as the official sales website. Oh and here's some more. This article written by iTwire was written a week and a half ago. It suggest Gears of War is nearing the 4 million sales mark. And VGcharts.org has it a 3.8 million sales. Admit your wrong and this nasty mess will go away. All I was saying is that Halo and GTA are two of America's most powerful IPs for consoles.
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[QUOTE="Rashpal"][QUOTE="DaysAirlines"][QUOTE="Rashpal"]Like I said the credibility of your source is questionable...DaysAirlines
Of course it's questionable, I guess that's all that is left to say when I bring up evidence and you don't.

2 mins of research isn't evidence... back up your "evidence" with further research and then you have an argument. At the moment you have one source. If you want disprove my thoery then come up with a strong argument.

I have nothing left to back up. You haven't provided any single piece of evidence whatsoever and I have nothing left to defend. And oh by the way. That "uncredible" website you keep talking about is the one System Wars voted on as the official sales website. Oh and here's some more. This article written by iTwire was written a week and a half ago. It suggest Gears of War is nearing the 4 million sales mark. And VGcharts.org has it a 3.8 million sales. Admit your wrong and this nasty mess will go away. All I was saying is that Halo and GTA are two of America's most powerful IPs for consoles.

Mercy!..................Uncle!