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#1 Dogfishrisings
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Its practically confirmed that the 120-160GB PS3 is coming , itll cost $499 , have the Dual shock 3 controller, it will include a game (were all guessing its gonna be either Ratchet and Clank or Uncharted) ... It seems like a HELL of a deal, and What if it has BC? It will be probably the sweetest deal available . Would you buy it?
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Eventually, yes. When I get an HDTV, and when Blu-Ray completely takes over. If Blu-Ray takes over.
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#3 clone01
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sure, if it has games available that i want to play.
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Ill buy it when it has 5 must have games.

So proabably later this year.

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Eventually, yes. When I get an HDTV, and when Blu-Ray completely takes over. If Blu-Ray takes over.musicalmac

HD DVD is dead

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[QUOTE="musicalmac"]Eventually, yes. When I get an HDTV, and when Blu-Ray completely takes over. If Blu-Ray takes over.Dogfishrisings

HD DVD is dead


No, its not, and Blu-Ray has failed to establish itself as a successor to DVD yet anyway, and most likely won't for a while, if it does.
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I'll wait until it goes further down in price (maybe $200).

This is a step in the opposite direction, imo.

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#8 vitz3
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sure, if it has games available that i want to play.clone01

You're a real Lem aren't you? You say that they're no games to play? You need to think that one over buddy. They're something in every genre on the system. Do you have a grudge against fun and happiness or something?

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I already got a 60GB one. But if I didn't have one and was on the fence I'd pick one up if it had BC.

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#9 Dogfishrisings
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Ill buy it when it has 5 must have games.

So proabably later this year.

whocares4peace

1-Metal Gear Solid 4

2-Resistance 2

3-Killzone 2

4-Gran Turismo 5

5-Little Big planet

6-Uncharted

Yep ..

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sure, if it has games available that i want to play.clone01

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[QUOTE="Dogfishrisings"]

[QUOTE="musicalmac"]Eventually, yes. When I get an HDTV, and when Blu-Ray completely takes over. If Blu-Ray takes over.SpruceCaboose

HD DVD is dead


No, its not, and Blu-Ray has failed to establish itself as a successor to DVD yet anyway, and most likely won't for a while, if it does.

What he said. Nothing is certain yet.
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#12 clone01
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[QUOTE="clone01"]sure, if it has games available that i want to play.vitz3

You're a real Lem aren't you? You say that they're no games to play? You need to think that one over buddy. They're something in every genre on the system. Do you have a grudge against fun and happiness or something?

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I already got a 60GB one. But if I didn't have one and was on the fence I'd pick one up if it had BC.

wow, thanks for providing my opinion for me. my post said GAMES I WANT TO PLAY. and don't call me a lemming, because i'm very far from any fanboy faction, cow.

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Its at a point where I will buy any SKU of the PS3 if it comes with BC. I will not ever buy a PS3 if it doesn't come with BC. Hence why the search for a 20GB/60GB continues.
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When the PS3 gets enough games I want,of course.
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#16 Dogfishrisings
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Its at a point where I will buy any SKU of the PS3 if it comes with BC. I will not ever buy a PS3 if it doesn't come with BC. Hence why the search for a 20GB/60GB continues.Blackbond

the current 80gb has BC...

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[QUOTE="clone01"]

wow, thanks for providing my opinion for me. my post said GAMES I WANT TO PLAY. and don't call me a lemming, because i'm very far from any fanboy faction, cow.

vitz3

Obvious Lemming is Lemming.

So he's a lemming because the PS3 doesn't have games he wants to play? That's awfully backwards, isn't it?
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#18 ChErikS
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I have been a strong 360 supporter since launch. However a friend and I made a pact that when/if we got our "economic stimulus tax cut" we would use them to get PS3's. I'd like to have a Bluray player and there is a hand full of games I would like to play, Warhawk and Eye of Judgement are the highest on the list at the moment.

All my multiplats I will continue to get on the 360 though as well as continuing to subscribe to Live and overall I'm more excited about upcoming 360 titles than PS3.

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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]Its at a point where I will buy any SKU of the PS3 if it comes with BC. I will not ever buy a PS3 if it doesn't come with BC. Hence why the search for a 20GB/60GB continues.Dogfishrisings

the current 80gb has BC...

Limited software based.

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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]Its at a point where I will buy any SKU of the PS3 if it comes with BC. I will not ever buy a PS3 if it doesn't come with BC. Hence why the search for a 20GB/60GB continues.Dogfishrisings

the current 80gb has BC...

Only part BC. But if the 160GB PS3 doesn't come with BC, then that would be beyond stupid.

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[QUOTE="vitz3"][QUOTE="clone01"]

wow, thanks for providing my opinion for me. my post said GAMES I WANT TO PLAY. and don't call me a lemming, because i'm very far from any fanboy faction, cow.

musicalmac

Obvious Lemming is Lemming.

So he's a lemming because the PS3 doesn't have games he wants to play? That's awfully backwards, isn't it?

That's vitz for ya.

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#22 Dogfishrisings
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[QUOTE="Dogfishrisings"]

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]Its at a point where I will buy any SKU of the PS3 if it comes with BC. I will not ever buy a PS3 if it doesn't come with BC. Hence why the search for a 20GB/60GB continues.SpruceCaboose

yes , but you can play all of the most popular games (MGS , GoW , DMC , etc)

the current 80gb has BC...

Limited software based.

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#23 _Dispair_
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I'll probably get it eventually
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#24 BuryMe
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I want real, hardware BC, not emulation. If the 160 version has that, i will buy it. Otherwise, i'll be getting a 20 or 60 gig off ebay
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#25 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Dogfishrisings"]

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]Its at a point where I will buy any SKU of the PS3 if it comes with BC. I will not ever buy a PS3 if it doesn't come with BC. Hence why the search for a 20GB/60GB continues.Dogfishrisings

the current 80gb has BC...

Limited software based.

yes , but you can play all of the most popular games (MGS , GoW , DMC , etc)

Most popular is not always what everyone wants to play, is it?

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#26 mjarantilla
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I want real, hardware BC, not emulation. If the 160 version has that, i will buy it. Otherwise, i'll be getting a 20 or 60 gig off ebayBuryMe

Hardware BC doesn't upscale, though, and from what I heard it does make a significant difference.

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#27 BuryMe
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[QUOTE="clone01"]sure, if it has games available that i want to play.vitz3

You're a real Lem aren't you? You say that they're no games to play? You need to think that one over buddy. They're something in every genre on the system. Do you have a grudge against fun and happiness or something?

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I already got a 60GB one. But if I didn't have one and was on the fence I'd pick one up if it had BC.

Read the post again. He never said there are no game to play, he said games that HE wants to play.
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Hmm. I don't think so. The reason I bought the PS2 last gen was to get niche games, and the PS3 just really doesn't have them anymore.
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#29 BuryMe
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[QUOTE="BuryMe"]I want real, hardware BC, not emulation. If the 160 version has that, i will buy it. Otherwise, i'll be getting a 20 or 60 gig off ebaymjarantilla

Hardware BC doesn't upscale, though, and from what I heard it does make a significant difference.

I don't care. I'd rather play games they way they are supposed to look.

And since i don't have an HDTV, upscaling is useless for me.

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#30 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

[QUOTE="BuryMe"]I want real, hardware BC, not emulation. If the 160 version has that, i will buy it. Otherwise, i'll be getting a 20 or 60 gig off ebayBuryMe

Hardware BC doesn't upscale, though, and from what I heard it does make a significant difference.

I don't care. I'd rather play games they way they are supposed to look.

And since i don't have an HDTV, upscaling is useless for me.

Ah, ok. The upscaling is the only reason I even considered the 80GB over the 60GB, especially since I don't play many games, especially if they're older.

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#31 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]Its at a point where I will buy any SKU of the PS3 if it comes with BC. I will not ever buy a PS3 if it doesn't come with BC. Hence why the search for a 20GB/60GB continues.Dogfishrisings

the current 80gb has BC...

But its not as good as the 20GB/60GB from what I heard. I hear its B/C is some what limited and or gimped. I want near perfect B/C.

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[QUOTE="BuryMe"]I want real, hardware BC, not emulation. If the 160 version has that, i will buy it. Otherwise, i'll be getting a 20 or 60 gig off ebaymjarantilla

Hardware BC doesn't upscale, though, and from what I heard it does make a significant difference.

The 60Gb PS3 I have "smooths" the games, makes them look very nice on my HDTV.

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#33 Blackbond
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I want real, hardware BC, not emulation. If the 160 version has that, i will buy it. Otherwise, i'll be getting a 20 or 60 gig off ebayBuryMe

This is my plan of attack.

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#34 Taz-Bone
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Nah.
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[QUOTE="BuryMe"]I want real, hardware BC, not emulation. If the 160 version has that, i will buy it. Otherwise, i'll be getting a 20 or 60 gig off ebaymjarantilla

Hardware BC doesn't upscale, though, and from what I heard it does make a significant difference.

:lol: Fail. I think you need to read up on this more.

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#36 clone01
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[QUOTE="clone01"]

wow, thanks for providing my opinion for me. my post said GAMES I WANT TO PLAY. and don't call me a lemming, because i'm very far from any fanboy faction, cow.

vitz3

Obvious Lemming is Lemming.

do you just go on these forums trying to bait people? last time i checked, i was a gamer. but hey, if you want to limit the fun on yourself, by all means go ahead. did i ever say i hated sony? no. did i ever say i thought the PS3 was inferior? nope. i even said i'm going to get one in the future. let's break it down, shall we?

resistance - good game, not enough for me to bite, though

heavenly sword - played it at a friend's, liked it. he beat it in two days, traded it in

motorstorm - looks good, racers aren't really my thing

warhawk - prefer a single player experience, with the exception of maybe worms, team fortress 2, and a bit of halo 3

uncharted - very cool game, but i admittedly liked gears better (and yes, the cover mechanics and gameplay are similar)

ratchet and clank - sorry, SMG takes my vote

lair - ummm

so, that's most of the currently available exclusives, i believe. everything else is multiplat

meanwhile, I (no, not every gamer, I, yes, I) loved Bioshock, Gears, Mass Effect, Halo 3, Condemned (believe that may have been multiplat), and Dead Rising. right now, IMO, more games i like.

reasons i will buy in the future:

MGS4

White Knight Story

FF XIII (maybe)

LA Noire

Little Big Planet

The Team Ico games

again, thanks for force feeding me my opinion.

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#37 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

[QUOTE="BuryMe"]I want real, hardware BC, not emulation. If the 160 version has that, i will buy it. Otherwise, i'll be getting a 20 or 60 gig off ebayvitz3

Hardware BC doesn't upscale, though, and from what I heard it does make a significant difference.

:lol: Fail. I think you need to read up on this more.

It didn't when it was first released. That much I know. There was an article on Joystiq that compared FFX (or FFXII, I don't remember) on the PS2 and PS3 on an HDTV, and the PS3 version actually looked worse. Maybe one of the PS3 updates adds software upscaling, but not having a PS3, I wouldn't know.

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#38 Ontain
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in a year maybe and if it's 300 or less.
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#39 vitz3
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do you just go on these forums trying to bait people? last time i checked, i was a gamer. but hey, if you want to limit the fun on yourself, by all means go ahead. did i ever say i hated sony? no. did i ever say i thought the PS3 was inferior? nope. i even said i'm going to get one in the future. let's break it down, shall we?

resistance - good game, not enough for me to bite, though

heavenly sword - played it at a friend's, liked it. he beat it in two days, traded it in

motorstorm - looks good, racers aren't really my thing

warhawk - prefer a single player experience, with the exception of maybe worms, team fortress 2, and a bit of halo 3

uncharted - very cool game, but i admittedly liked gears better (and yes, the cover mechanics and gameplay are similar)

ratchet and clank - sorry, SMG takes my vote

lair - ummm

so, that's most of the currently available exclusives, i believe. everything else is multiplat

meanwhile, I (no, not every gamer, I, yes, I) loved Bioshock, Gears, Mass Effect, Halo 3, Condemned (believe that may have been multiplat), and Dead Rising. right now, IMO, more games i like.

reasons i will buy in the future:

MGS4

White Knight Story

FF XIII (maybe)

LA Noire

Little Big Planet

The Team Ico games

again, thanks for force feeding me my opinion.

clone01

:| Wow... I don't really care about your life story. You're still an obvious Lem. Ps3 has tons of great games to play.

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I wouldn't buy a Sony product if my life depended on it.
Don't like the company (as whole)...
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:| Wow... I don't really care about your life story. You're still an obvious Lem.

vitz3
:lol: Don't bite anymore, clone01. We can't all troll this effectively. I forgot to mention that price is going to be important as well. I'm not paying another 500 dollars for a console.
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Why should I buy a 160 GB PS3, when, chances are, they'll drop the price or upgrade the unit in 6 months or less?
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i want a PS3, i dont care if its BC or not. I just want the PS3.
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[QUOTE="vitz3"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

[QUOTE="BuryMe"]I want real, hardware BC, not emulation. If the 160 version has that, i will buy it. Otherwise, i'll be getting a 20 or 60 gig off ebaymjarantilla

Hardware BC doesn't upscale, though, and from what I heard it does make a significant difference.

:lol: Fail. I think you need to read up on this more.

It didn't when it was first released. That much I know. There was an article on Joystiq that compared FFX (or FFXII, I don't remember) on the PS2 and PS3 on an HDTV, and the PS3 version actually looked worse. Maybe one of the PS3 updates adds software upscaling, but not having a PS3, I wouldn't know.

Its a feature called smoothing, and you have to turn it on in the game during gameplay. It is not on by default.

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#45 mjarantilla
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Why should I buy a 160 GB PS3, when, chances are, they'll drop the price or upgrade the unit in 6 months or less? sonicmj1

Exactly. Sony's established a new precedent that's harmful to console buyers.

I'm personally waiting for the drop to $350 in May, or the drop to sub-$300 in November. Who's with me?

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[QUOTE="sonicmj1"]Why should I buy a 160 GB PS3, when, chances are, they'll drop the price or upgrade the unit in 6 months or less? mjarantilla

Exactly. Sony's established a new precedent that's harmful to console buyers.

I'm personally waiting for the drop to $350 in May, or the drop to sub-$300 in November. Who's with me?

Slap in full BC, and you sir may just have a sale in November :D
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#47 BuryMe
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:| Wow... I don't really care about your life story. You're still an obvious Lem. Ps3 has tons of great games to play.vitz3
So you're a fanboy if you don't find certain games appealing?
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#48 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="vitz3"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

[QUOTE="BuryMe"]I want real, hardware BC, not emulation. If the 160 version has that, i will buy it. Otherwise, i'll be getting a 20 or 60 gig off ebaySpruceCaboose

Hardware BC doesn't upscale, though, and from what I heard it does make a significant difference.

:lol: Fail. I think you need to read up on this more.

It didn't when it was first released. That much I know. There was an article on Joystiq that compared FFX (or FFXII, I don't remember) on the PS2 and PS3 on an HDTV, and the PS3 version actually looked worse. Maybe one of the PS3 updates adds software upscaling, but not having a PS3, I wouldn't know.

Its a feature called smoothing, and you have to turn it on in the game during gameplay. It is not on by default.

Yeah, but is it upscaling? The 360 has upscaling for Xbox games, and they look fantastic, almost like they were rendered natively in 720p.

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#49 CubanBlunt
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I'll wait until it goes further down in price (maybe $200).

This is a step in the opposite direction, imo.

slothboyadvance

Funny, I think the 360 Pro is only worth that much.

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#50 SpruceCaboose
Member since 2005 • 24589 Posts

Yeah, but is it upscaling? The 360 has upscaling for Xbox games, and they look fantastic, almost like they were rendered natively in 720p.

mjarantilla

Dunno. TBH, Xbox games look ok to me upscaled, and the PS2 games look nice for what they are. It makes them very clean and smooth, but they are still PS2 games, so, yeah....