Last of us - 30fps, Uncharted 4 - 60fps. ND is lying???

They said Last of Us has to be locked 30fps to have better shadows. They can´t run HD remake 60fps with good graphics, and yet they said Uncharted 4 trailer was all in game, 1080p and 60fps.

How the hell it´s possible? You run Uncharted 4 - 1080p and 60fps but REMAKE GAME WITH LOW TEXTURES 1080P and 30fps.

Looks like Uncharted 4 trailer was not in-game after all.

@FreedomFreeLife: It was confirmed at E3 that Uncharted 4 trailer was "in-engine"

Because FreedomFromFacts is a game developer.

Wouldn't surprise me if the shadows are still better on the PS4 at 60fps than they were on the PS3.

TC is an idiot

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I dont really think you're that dense TC... but at least your trying lol

This is really reaching dude.

ND is lying is just an awful statement to make at this stage regardless of your personal opinion.

Lol TC sounds so silly right now. I've heard about his silly threads but REALLY?!

what in the **** are u talking about?

Saw a video on YT a bit ago saying how Druckman was discussing what a nightmare it was to even get TLoU running on the PS4 because of the drastic architectural differences between the consoles. What would appear on the surface to the layman to be a simple port actually was very, very hard.

It's not like the PS4 is a PS3, only ten times as powerful and a port is a simple button press. The systems are entirely unique, and from what I'm hearing TLoU didn't even run at first.

I have full faith in the Gods.

Sony Fan melting down at the mere mention of Dude Raider not living up to expectations.

30fps was so last gen right Sony Fan.

At least this thread isn't as bad as yours are.

@FreedomFreeLife:

'In engine' isn't the same as 'in game'.

Look at every other ND game since Uncharted. The difference between cutscenes and gameplay is pretty significant

People are overreacting over something obvious. Any game on any hardware, running at 30fps isnt as demanding as the same game running at 60fps. It doesnt mean that its maxing out a system. This is a year one port, it cant be compared to a game developped exclusively to the new hardware, and we all know that devs need time to master new hardware. Anyway, it was confirmed that the PS4 version at 1080p60 looks way better than the PS3 one.

@GrenadeLauncher: What's funny is the thread you linked is proving to be right on the money.

Sony Fan continues to be the clowns of SW.

Sequels are so last gen.

ROFL that thread, because sony are the ones saying "just wait" for the magical directx and teh cloud.

Kuu2 beclowning himself as usual.

I wonder if Destiny will be one of the few remaining 2014 games that will end up 1080p on the Bone.

Technical stuff is very touchy so I just trust that developers know the best optimization plan for their game.

They are better.

EMULATION is hard specially of complex hardware like the PS3,the PS2 had a silly 300mhz CPU,but emulating the PS2 requires a way faster CPU than 300mhz,hell dual core or better and has to have certain extensions.

They are not building the game from ground up on PS4,they are emulating certain code on PS4,and that Jaguar CPU can't emulate Cell,so they have to move features that where run by cell to the GPU,is not the same as just moving the game and pushing a button,that game was optimized greatly for the PS3.

Game build from the ground up on PS4 will look better,in fact Infamous does look a hell of allot better than TLOU re make,i guess that by your argument Infamous should not because well the PS4 can emulate TLOU well,and Infamous look way better.

Link to an article where ND specifically states they're emulating (all or parts of) Last of Us?

they have already said like 3 times that its all in game

lol

Great apples to apples comparison TC.

@PAL360: Sums it up well. There's your answer TC.

the Naughty Gods feed off of doubt

What make you bitter comment even better is that Dude Raider >> Chick Rider..ahhahaa

No is not and it was very seamless transition,from those cut scenes to the gameplay.

I wish we had a button that was like ‘Turn On PS4 Mode’, but no,” creative director Neil Druckmann says. “We expected it to be Hell, and it was Hell. Just getting an image onscreen, even an inferior one with the shadows broken, lighting broken and with it crashing every 30 seconds… that took a long time.These engineers are some of the best in the industry and they optimised the game so much for the PS3’s SPUs specifically. It was optimised on a binary level,but after shifting those things over [to PS4] you have to go back to the high level, make sure the [game] systems are intact, and optimise it again.

http://www.edge-online.com/features/the-last-of-it-naughty-dog-on-bringing-the-last-of-us-to-ps4/#null

The game was optimized in a binary level,which is why they went trough hell,that Jaguar CPU can't do what Cell did,so yeah is emulating features GPU wise,maybe you forgot the PS3 compensated with Cell its GPU weakness.

Either way you sad lemming Infamous look a hell of allot better than TLOU re make,and is open world,by TC logic that is impossible because the PS4 can't run the TLOU like he claim..lol

@scatteh316: "TC is an idiot

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TC was destroyed in first post and thus SDC. Thank you SONY, the current gen 8 leader witt he world's most powerful video game console to have ever been created in the history of video games.

I can speak for everyone, including TC and say we all all humbled.

So you have nothing with ND stating they had to emulate the PS3 to port TLOU to the PS4, that's all you needed to say.

And i'm not a lemming and especially not a sad lemming, i'm a very happy gamer thank you very much.

It's most likely in game like ND says, but I'll be very surprised if the finished game looks that good or runs at 60fps. This was just an impressive teaser. The game is probably only 25-30% complete right now. Lets let them add the rest of the content and see if they can keep it looking like that. Every Uncharted game that had a reveal video was downgraded from what was shown at the E3.

They ported the code to the PS4,and they stated how difficult it was,the game wasn't build from ground up on PS4 period and since the PS4 CPU can't run cell task,i am sure they got emulated by GPU.

No you are a sad lemming and a bitter troll,now instead of talking sh** answer me this do you agree with TC logic.?

Didn't you know, if you criticize the PS4 you are instantly a lemming.

@tormentos:

Oh come on. I know you're a fanboy but open your fucking eyes. Compare the level of facial animation, lighting, shading, shadows, other effects like depth of field etc in the Last of Us cutscenes compared to the game. For fucks sake, people were raving about how the PS4 re-release gameplay had finally caught up to the PS3 cutscenes...

ever heard of porting games TC and games build from the ground up ?

you should feel stupid

Thread Backfire! LOL

Snugens is like you,he has a soft spot for MS..lol

No i'm a happy gamer and most certainly not a bitter troll, what on earth would i have to be bitter about?. I don't cheerlead for a company or piece of plastic, and i don't have any malice towards any companies or pieces of plastic either.

Who cares about the OP i asked you a question and you failed to answer it satisfactorily

I've no more a soft spot for MS than i do for the other two console manufacturers. In fact, Sony would be the brand i've spent more time with and more money on.

No i actually answer your question just because they don't openly say we emulated something doesn't mean it didn't happen,i guess OJ simpson didn't kill his wise he never say he did,or Michael Jackson touched children right he never say he did either,just because some one doesn't say something doesn't mean it didn't happen.

How many times have you see MS admit they loss the 360 generation.? I guess that didn't happen.

The game was a port move on things got emulated by the GPU because a 1.6ghz Jaguar can't freaking emulate cell.

Maybe you forgot that my joint date is older than yours,i have been here since you arrived on this account,an yeah you have defend MS many times not so much sony.

Either way pretend the PS4 didn't have to resort to its GPU to make several GPU calls Cell did in the name of the RSX.

double post

@dommeus:TLOU gameplay looked pretty close to it cutscenes

In-game GFX: (click the first and the last pic to see them better)

all from ps3 version

the game looked sooo damn good on ps3 there is a reason why it won all consoles gfx awards in 2013 and now it look even better on ps4

Oh so you joined earlier than me, ok then, since you're so knowledgeable on my posting habits you'll be able to provide me with times and dates (or at the very least examples) that i've defended MS enough to make me an MS fanboy.

You're just assuming it was emulated because you like to believe that the PS4 is an all powerful super machine, it's what fanboys like you do, no need to get upset and start posting gibberish at me. In future if i ask you for a link to something you cannot in fact prove, then just say that. It's ok to be wrong.

why people are soo damn dumb here, ND is porting a game from ps3 which is a very very different hardware than 360/pc to Ps4 a console that pretty much is a pc ...soo of course it will not be easy like porting a xbox360 to xbone

it's not the same as making a game from the ground up on ps4 like uncharted 4 ..not even close

@shadiezz2012:

Mate, I'm not denying the game has great graphics considering the hardware, but there is a big difference between the cutscenes and the in game. Same with a lot of games that utilise their game engines for cutscenes. Since less is being rendered in a cutscene, of course they can get away with making it much prettier

@dommeus:i agree with you that there is indeed a difference maybe a big one even but ND did a great job in my book for make me not feeling it with seamless transition

that's why i said *look pretty close* and didn't say *it look the same*

#SDCSustained

@scatteh316: This.

Also, obviously the shadows would still be better at 60FPS as this is how bad they looked in the PS3 version.

http://images.eurogamer.net/2013/articles//a/1/5/9/0/9/6/8/5.bmp.jpghttp://images.eurogamer.net/2013/articles//a/1/5/9/0/9/6/7/2.bmp.jpg