Killzone ShadowFall multiplayer footage (6mins video)

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#401 Mystery_Writer
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[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]

I don't know on what hardware they were running the E3 demo. But fine, I'm with you, let's be on the safe side and say top of the line $1000 nVidia Titan.

The bottom line is; that high end PC footage of BF4 you saw, you do agree it looks better than this KZ footage, right?

ZoomZoom2490

yes, in terms of textures, resolution and AA. but when PC doesn't have a single exclusive developer to make a game optimized just for that $1000 gpu all that power means nothing. this is why PS3 has won most of graphics awards here on GS, the winner is picked by which system was able to output the most from hardware and PC is far from that spectrum today.

Beautiful. That "yes" is what I was hoping to hear.

I hope now you do understand why it's not necessarily a sin for PC gamers to call it nothing special (at least in terms of graphics based on your answer) and be surprised by PS fans overreaction when there is already something better running on a last gen BF3 engine with high res (by your own admission).

If anything this footage warrants nothing but a disapointment reaction to what little power the hardware inside those next-gen consoles seems to be if the most graphically celebrated PS4 launch title is unable to match that of a last gen engine.

Will later titles in PS4 lifecycle match BF3 graphics or surpass it? Might be. But for the time being, this less-than last gen BF3 engine is nothing short of a disappointment let alone special.

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#402 ZoomZoom2490
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[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"][QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]

I don't know on what hardware they were running the E3 demo. But fine, I'm with you, let's be on the safe side and say top of the line $1000 nVidia Titan.

The bottom line is; that high end PC footage of BF4 you saw, you do agree it looks better than this KZ footage, right?

Mystery_Writer

yes, in terms of textures, resolution and AA. but when PC doesn't have a single exclusive developer to make a game optimized just for that $1000 gpu all that power means nothing. this is why PS3 has won most of graphics awards here on GS, the winner is picked by which system was able to output the most from hardware and PC is far from that spectrum today.

Beautiful. That "yes" is what I was hoping to hear.

I hope now you do understand why it's not necessarily a sin for PC gamers to call it nothing special (at least in terms of graphics based on your answer) and be surprised by PS fans overreaction when there is already something better running on a last gen BF3 engine with high res (by your own admission).

If anything this footage warrants nothing but a disapointment reaction to what little power the hardware inside those next-gen consoles seems to be if the most graphically celebrated PS4 launch title is unable to match that of a last gen engine.

Will later titles in PS4 lifecycle match BF3 graphics or surpass it? Might be. But for the time being, this less-than last gen BF3 engine is nothing short of a disappointment let alone special.

you didn't get my post, a game with more textures doesn't mean it has better visuals, effects and animation. take some classes to learn the entire spectrum what makes up graphics.
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#403 bloodlust_101
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you didn't get my post, a game with more textures doesn't mean it has better visuals, effects and animation. take some classes to learn the entire spectrum what makes up graphics.ZoomZoom2490

He's a PC elitist ;) what do you expect?

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[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"] you didn't get my post, a game with more textures doesn't mean it has better visuals, effects and animation. take some classes to learn the entire spectrum what makes up graphics.bloodlust_101

He's a PC elitist ;) what do you expect?

i expected a lot more, like reading more than just first two words in my post.

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#405 danjammer69
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Damn those weapon sounds are amazing.

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#406 deactivated-58e448fd89d82
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Ok, i have taken some direct feed shots from the downloaded video, which has far higher quality...

Even in this, the blur cannot hide, and the game does indeed drop below 30fps in quite a few places, but overall a nice looking experience.

 

Still dislike the obnoxious glare from enemies...

 

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#407 bloodlust_101
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[QUOTE="bloodlust_101"]

[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"] you didn't get my post, a game with more textures doesn't mean it has better visuals, effects and animation. take some classes to learn the entire spectrum what makes up graphics.ZoomZoom2490

He's a PC elitist ;) what do you expect?

i expected a lot more, like reading more than just first two words in my post.

He's on the same side as AMD... arguing in the same thread... I've played PC and Console FPS, there is NOTHING like Killzone. I can't wait for the 15th of November :)
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#408 deactivated-58e448fd89d82
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[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]

[QUOTE="bloodlust_101"]

He's a PC elitist ;) what do you expect?

bloodlust_101

i expected a lot more, like reading more than just first two words in my post.

He's on the same side as AMD... arguing in the same thread... I've played PC and Console FPS, there is NOTHING like Killzone. I can't wait for the 15th of November :)

I am not on any side you dumb twat.
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#409 Mystery_Writer
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[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]

[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]yes, in terms of textures, resolution and AA. but when PC doesn't have a single exclusive developer to make a game optimized just for that $1000 gpu all that power means nothing. this is why PS3 has won most of graphics awards here on GS, the winner is picked by which system was able to output the most from hardware and PC is far from that spectrum today.ZoomZoom2490

Beautiful. That "yes" is what I was hoping to hear.

I hope now you do understand why it's not necessarily a sin for PC gamers to call it nothing special (at least in terms of graphics based on your answer) and be surprised by PS fans overreaction when there is already something better running on a last gen BF3 engine with high res (by your own admission).

If anything this footage warrants nothing but a disapointment reaction to what little power the hardware inside those next-gen consoles seems to be if the most graphically celebrated PS4 launch title is unable to match that of a last gen engine.

Will later titles in PS4 lifecycle match BF3 graphics or surpass it? Might be. But for the time being, this less-than last gen BF3 engine is nothing short of a disappointment let alone special.

you didn't get my post, a game with more textures doesn't mean it has better visuals, effects and animation. take some classes to learn the entire spectrum what makes up graphics.

Is this backpedaling?

Ok, let's start again. Hope you took some of those "classes" and not afraid to have a straight answer posted here for all to see.

If you had to choose, Which game footage has better technical graphics overall (i.e. map size, effects, textures, team size and poly count, etc..), BF4 E3 footage or KZ footage?

[spoiler]

I bet you'll dance around the question and not have straight answer :P

[/spoiler]

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#410 bloodlust_101
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PC MASTER RACEAMD655

Anyways, you can still see heavy compression caused by the video (and uploaded to imageshack). Want to nit pick on the graphics, do so when you have completely still images with the game in your hands. I can pick apart BF if I wanted to waste my time too ya know?

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#411 deactivated-58e448fd89d82
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[QUOTE="AMD655"]

PC MASTER RACEbloodlust_101

Anyways, you can still see heavy compression caused by the video (and uploaded to imageshack). Want to nit pick on the graphics, do so when you have completely still images with the game in your hands. I can pick apart BF if I wanted to waste my time too ya know?

Well i picked the best parts..... Sadly the shit blur gets in the way.
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#412 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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Ok, i have taken some direct feed shots from the downloaded video, which has far higher quality...

Even in this, the blur cannot hide, and the game does indeed drop below 30fps in quite a few places, but overall a nice looking experience. 

Still dislike the obnoxious glare from enemies...

AMD655

Those shots are disappointing but they're also bad shots

But yeah that visor glare is stupid. Imagine 2 or 3 dudes all beside each other, it would be a supernova lol

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#413 bloodlust_101
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[QUOTE="bloodlust_101"][QUOTE="AMD655"]

PC MASTER RACEAMD655

Anyways, you can still see heavy compression caused by the video (and uploaded to imageshack). Want to nit pick on the graphics, do so when you have completely still images with the game in your hands. I can pick apart BF if I wanted to waste my time too ya know?

Well i picked the best parts..... Sadly the shit blur gets in the way.

You are still judging off a video of the game, and using Battlefield, which has it's own set of problems.
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#414 deactivated-58e448fd89d82
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[QUOTE="bloodlust_101"][QUOTE="AMD655"][QUOTE="bloodlust_101"] Anyways, you can still see heavy compression caused by the video (and uploaded to imageshack). Want to nit pick on the graphics, do so when you have completely still images with the game in your hands. I can pick apart BF if I wanted to waste my time too ya know?

Well i picked the best parts..... Sadly the shit blur gets in the way.

You are still judging off a video of the game, and using Battlefield, which has it's own set of problems.

WTF...... No BF is being compared here.
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#415 mitu123
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Ok, i have taken some direct feed shots from the downloaded video, which has far higher quality...

Even in this, the blur cannot hide, and the game does indeed drop below 30fps in quite a few places, but overall a nice looking experience.

 

Still dislike the obnoxious glare from enemies...

 

nlp8.png

 

 

 

 

 

 

AMD655

Holy compression Batman!!!

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#416 deactivated-58e448fd89d82
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Someone said it looks shit hot amazing downloaded....

 

 

It sure does not.

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#417 John_Matherson
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hmmm...so which body part do I need the least??
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#418 bloodlust_101
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[QUOTE="AMD655"][QUOTE="bloodlust_101"][QUOTE="AMD655"] Well i picked the best parts..... Sadly the shit blur gets in the way.

You are still judging off a video of the game, and using Battlefield, which has it's own set of problems.

WTF...... No BF is being compared here.

Showing* Happy? Our discussion was on art style, and it only started because of your misguided reply.
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#419 deactivated-58e448fd89d82
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1h8.png..

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#420 mitu123
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Someone said it looks shit hot amazing downloaded....

 

 

It sure does not.

AMD655

It's not even pure 100% raw direct feed but much better than previous videos that are far worse in compression.

Also direct feed pics>pics taken from a video.

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#421 bloodlust_101
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[QUOTE="AMD655"]

Someone said it looks shit hot amazing downloaded....

 

 

It sure does not.

mitu123

It's not even pure 100% raw direct feed but much better than previous videos that are far worse in compression.

Also direct feed pics>pics taken from a video.

I'm not actually sure what he is trying to prove with these pics... Maybe he can shed some light on this?
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#422 deactivated-58e448fd89d82
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="AMD655"]

Someone said it looks shit hot amazing downloaded....

 

 

It sure does not.

bloodlust_101

It's not even pure 100% raw direct feed but much better than previous videos that are far worse in compression.

Also direct feed pics>pics taken from a video.

I'm not actually sure what he is trying to prove with these pics... Maybe he can shed some light on this?

Not proving anything graphically, proves the blurry mess and the stupid glare.
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#423 ZoomZoom2490
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hey AMD, try zooming in more on the already low quality video.

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#424 deactivated-58e448fd89d82
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hey AMD, try zooming in more on the already low quality video.

ZoomZoom2490

Huh??? It is shot at my screens resolution of 1080p, nothing was changed...

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#425 bloodlust_101
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[QUOTE="bloodlust_101"][QUOTE="mitu123"]

It's not even pure 100% raw direct feed but much better than previous videos that are far worse in compression.

Also direct feed pics>pics taken from a video.

AMD655
I'm not actually sure what he is trying to prove with these pics... Maybe he can shed some light on this?

I eat babies.

Everyone knows there is blur and glare? It is part of the effect GG were going for. I don't understand why you needed to prove it?
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#426 Kaz_Son
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:lol: WTF is AMD doing? Can anybody be more stupid? Who takes pics of compressed videos and uses them for comparisons?
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#427 ZoomZoom2490
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the game doesnt look blurry if your ISP allows you to stream videos at 720p, you hear that AMD?

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#428 bloodlust_101
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hey AMD, try zooming in more on the already low quality video.

ZoomZoom2490
It's the compression caused by taking a single frame from a video, not zooming in.
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#429 mitu123
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[QUOTE="bloodlust_101"][QUOTE="mitu123"]It's not even pure 100% raw direct feed but much better than previous videos that are far worse in compression.

Also direct feed pics>pics taken from a video.

AMD655

I'm not actually sure what he is trying to prove with these pics... Maybe he can shed some light on this?

Not proving anything graphically, proves the blurry mess and the stupid glare.

Taking pics from videos is still not a good idea. If you really wanted to show off the blur and glare and such, use direct feeds like these:

image_killzone_shadow_fall-22861-2660_00

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#430 deactivated-58e448fd89d82
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Like talking to a class of snotty 2 year olds.

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Like talking to a class of snotty 2 year olds.

AMD655
Watch out guys! He's gonna eat us!
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Like talking to a class of snotty 2 year olds.

AMD655
but who takes pics by zooming In a 360p video? lol you are first of that kind, congratz.
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#433 mitu123
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[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]

hey AMD, try zooming in more on the already low quality video.

bloodlust_101
It's the compression caused by taking a single frame from a video, not zooming in.

This is true and always common and more reasons not to use them for pics.
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#434 Sweenix
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they need to make the gameplay a little faster, other then that, pretty impressive

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they need to make the gameplay a little faster, other then that, pretty impressive

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I prefer it not to be a twitchy shooter. Killzone 2 was the best in gameplay for me, and I can only hope that when all is said and done the gameplay will more resemble that than 3.
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#436 mitu123
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[QUOTE="Sweenix"]

they need to make the gameplay a little faster, other then that, pretty impressive

bloodlust_101

I prefer it not to be a twitchy shooter. Killzone 2 was the best in gameplay for me, and I can only hope that when all is said and done the gameplay will more resemble that than 3.

This, the less it's like KZ3's MP, the better.

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[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]

hey AMD, try zooming in more on the already low quality video.

AMD655

Huh??? It is shot at my screens resolution of 1080p, nothing was changed...

seriously man, we get it. you don't like the game. now gtfo this thread lol.
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Game looks great.
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I would love KB+M!

 

Where did people read it was 60FPS?  And was that in multiplayer?  IGN reported some hiccups.

seanmcloughlin

GG said the Multiplayer was gonna be 60 fps but the SP is still 30

Wow...if this stays true with THOSE graphics...hot damn!  I guess any hiccups right now are lag and not framerate.  If they smooth that out this will be the best looking game to date.  This is coming from a PC gamer :P.

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:cool: Dat lighting....
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#441 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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1h8.png..

AMD655

Why are you taking terrible shots to prove your point? 

Also can anyone else see the little puppy face with big floppy ears below the scope? lol

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day 1
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day 1drakekratos
+1 to this!
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The Dynamic Lighting and Screen Space Reflections really bring everything together and make the enviroments much more immersive.

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[QUOTE="drakekratos"]day 1mitu123
+1 to this!

I think I might go ahead and pre-order it now.
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Ok...... Holy Fvck :o This is insanely impressive lighting

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I love their use of particles.

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dat lighting!
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#449 campzor
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 man this is one gorgeous gif, if it shows anything, its that we need more white guns
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#450 omho88
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Finally a shooter with a decent firing effects ..... it looks great .. I have to admit, while the other KZ were good but they always felt lacking somthing gameplay wise..... hopefully this one isn't.