Just lost all respect for Itagaki Tomonobu ( ninja gaiden creator )

[QUOTE="-Sora"]hahahaah, this guy is awesome.Shusty_lives

What a coincidence? You like what he said and you both like the 360 and dislike Sony...

I dont dislike Sony, i plan on gettinga PS3next year, only PS game i bash is Killzone and HOME.

We've always known you to be crazy, so we're not surprised. :P lol

Dreams-Visions

[QUOTE="Ragashahs"]says the game who made the same game 3 times-Sora

He only made it twice, just likeMGSs subsistence games and FFs International games.
Sigma was made by one of his like apprentice type people i think.

You're surprised?Saying things like that is exactly whatItagaki is known for.TyrantDragon55

that and bad fighting games...

[QUOTE="-Sora"]

[QUOTE="Ragashahs"]says the game who made the same game 3 timesRagashahs

He only made it twice, just likeMGSs subsistence games and FFs International games.
Sigma was made by one of his like apprentice type people i think.

Yea your right about that, Tekken consistently gets AAA ratings, while well DoA gets maybe a AA.

[QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"]You're surprised?Saying things like that is exactly whatItagaki is known for.hazuki87

that and bad fighting games...

DOA4 was pretty good imo, and why is everyone bashing him all of the sudden when a few months ago you were all begging and pleading him to make NG2 multiplat?

[QUOTE="hazuki87"]

[QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"]You're surprised?Saying things like that is exactly whatItagaki is known for.TyrantDragon55

that and bad fighting games...

DOA4 was pretty good imo, and why is everyone bashing him all of the sudden when a few months ago you were all begging and pleading him to make NG2 multiplat?

Ive bashed him since the day I heard of him. I dont care if NG2 is multiplat, I wont buy it. I dont own a PS3 either.

I don't really see anything wrong with this. I don't think anyone here seriously thinks that quick time events are a sign of creative development. Quick time events do not make good gameplay nor are they creative in any way, they are half assed.MJPilgrim

If done good, they can be very fun.

This guys such a moron. He disses Tekken when it is one of the most respectable fighting game out there, DoA JUST became somewhat decent with the 4th entry.

He dissed Devil May Cry when he based his entire game off it, plus when Devil May Cry is a different game *and has a superior combat system also*.

However the saddest thing about this, is the sheer fact that fanboys believe this crud. I mean sure I can understand if many people prefer Ninja Gaiden to Devil May Cry, but the sheer fact that it always beats it in the poll like 6:1 and Devil May Cry is known as a "n00b" game is just ridiculous.

The majority reason of why this guy is so popular is because he was one of the very few Japanese developers on the original Xbox. Before that I don't even remembering hearing much about this guy.

Alot of people agree with him,as soon as the HS demo came out on psn it was clear from people's posts that they were disappointed with it,great graphics,half-baked gameplay seems to be a trend on the ps3.
blacktorn

Seems to be a trend.. In what games exactly?

http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=19497

Heavenly Sword is "half-assed" says Itagaki

Lead graphics progammer of Tecmo Itagaki Tomonobu has slammed the PS3 exclusive title as 'half assed' in the latest issue of EGM. Itagaki commented that the game is 'half-assed' because its asking you to do all kinds of button timing sequences of which you as the game player don't really get much out of it from.

What a arrogant person... what is he basing this off the demo ? seriously. I just lost all respect for this guy. He creates one good game ( ninja gaiden ) and one ok fighter ( DOA ) and a booby game ( DOABV ) and all of a sudden he can talk **** about other devs like he is god or something ?

shaggymcp

I just lost all respect for shaggymcp. How dare you make an opinion!

[QUOTE="blacktorn"]Alot of people agree with him,as soon as the HS demo came out on psn it was clear from people's posts that they were disappointed with it,great graphics,half-baked gameplay seems to be a trend on the ps3.
inertk

Seems to be a trend.. In what games exactly?

Motorstorm,Lair,ratchet and clank (recycled gameplay mechanics).

honestly

i cant talk much about HS, cause i just played the demo and it was kinda good

NGS,, greatest action game? please... people who say that are xbox fans how never played DMC or GoW. heck DMC started this type of games and the charecter (dante) way better than this half ass ninja Ryu who dosnt seem to say or do much... GoW is an epic action game, u fight in large scale battles... the only thing he praises his game for is cause of how hard it's??? thats down right stupid, just cause the other guys know how to put an easy mode to please everyone doesnt mean it's a bad game

go play GoW or DMC for that matter on the harder modes,, good luck with that.

for a ps3 game it suck @ss,,, back in the xbox sure maybe good... the CG are from the xbox days, the collision detection is **** in the game (go fight alma, when she spins around that means she dodge my sword, wtf? just cause she spins doesnt mean it didnt hit her,,, yeah, nice action there)

im not saying he is not entitled to his own opinions, but dont diss all the other action games cause u "think" ur game is better... cause to be honest they all outsold his dump recycled to death game

[QUOTE="inertk"]

[QUOTE="blacktorn"]Alot of people agree with him,as soon as the HS demo came out on psn it was clear from people's posts that they were disappointed with it,great graphics,half-baked gameplay seems to be a trend on the ps3.
blacktorn

Seems to be a trend.. In what games exactly?

Motorstorm,Lair,ratchet and clank (recycled gameplay mechanics).

That's like saying Halo has recycled gameplay mechanics, or any sequel in a series has recycled gameplay mechanics. :/

The gameplay in Motorstom was anything but half baked - the game lacked content but the core gameplay is amazing as is the online play and I'm sure you haven't played Lair to mack such an assumption.

Then again you didn't explain in detail what you meant when you said *Half-baked gameplay* so I wonder what that constitutes for you?

This guys such a moron. He disses Tekken when it is one of the most respectable fighting game out there, DoA JUST became somewhat decent with the 4th entry.

He dissed Devil May Cry when he based his entire game off it, plus when Devil May Cry is a different game *and has a superior combat system also*.

However the saddest thing about this, is the sheer fact that fanboys believe this crud. I mean sure I can understand if many people prefer Ninja Gaiden to Devil May Cry, but the sheer fact that it always beats it in the poll like 6:1 and Devil May Cry is known as a "n00b" game is just ridiculous.

The majority reason of why this guy is so popular is because he was one of the very few Japanese developers on the original Xbox. Before that I don't even remembering hearing much about this guy.

Dencore

So a game with no block button, one of the worst targeting systems ever, and completly idiotic A.I. has a superior combat system?

Ninja Gaiden Sigma demo >>>> Heavenly Sword demo. The man is more than entitled to his opinion as the two games share a similar genre.d_black

His opinion is based on the fact that hes jealous that someones making a game similar to his that looks like its ognna be pretty awesome. The things this guy says mean about as much to me as the idiotic ramblings of Hideo Kojima and Ken Kutaragi.

Producer Kyle Shubel: "My response to Mr. Itagaki would be that the intent of the Hero Sequences is to empower the player to experience events that would be nearly impossible to play in a natural platforming state...for example, making the player run down ropes, leaping from rope to rope as they're being cut from underneath you, all while dodging other objects-that would be a frustrating experience to 99 percent of our users if we were to force them to do that manually."

EGM isue 219. I agree with the above statement

First he disses Tekken, then he disses Heavenly Sword. The cows must all have this guy on their hitlist.:lol:

BioShockOwnz

Well Tekken deserves the bashing, Hs on the other hand , not so much.

http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=19497

Heavenly Sword is "half-assed" says Itagaki

Lead graphics progammer of Tecmo Itagaki Tomonobu has slammed the PS3 exclusive title as 'half assed' in the latest issue of EGM. Itagaki commented that the game is 'half-assed' because its asking you to do all kinds of button timing sequences of which you as the game player don't really get much out of it from.

What a arrogant person... what is he basing this off the demo ? seriously. I just lost all respect for this guy. He creates one good game ( ninja gaiden ) and one ok fighter ( DOA ) and a booby game ( DOABV ) and all of a sudden he can talk **** about other devs like he is god or something ?

shaggymcp

I don't have a PS3, so haven't played the HS demo. However, I have to say that QTE are a pretty dull gameplay element. They have been in games for a long time (Hello Dragon's Lair) They allow for a visually impressive sequence but gameplay is lacking. It becomes a slightly less boring game of Simon.

I have no idea how much of the gameplay is this type. I know we've seen one sequence. If there are a lot of these throughout the game, it could in deed hurt the overall experience.

http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=19497

Heavenly Sword is "half-assed" says Itagaki

Lead graphics progammer of Tecmo Itagaki Tomonobu has slammed the PS3 exclusive title as 'half assed' in the latest issue of EGM. Itagaki commented that the game is 'half-assed' because its asking you to do all kinds of button timing sequences of which you as the game player don't really get much out of it from.

What a arrogant person... what is he basing this off the demo ? seriously. I just lost all respect for this guy. He creates one good game ( ninja gaiden ) and one ok fighter ( DOA ) and a booby game ( DOABV ) and all of a sudden he can talk **** about other devs like he is god or something ?

shaggymcp

If you are a good programmer like him you can talk trash.You are NOT a programmer, so SHUT THE F UP!

Ninja Gaiden is all about meticulous control. You control every single thing Ryu does, which is also a reason for its high difficulty. You won't survive past the first level in that game by button mashing (at least in Ninja Gaiden Black). In fact, Ninja Gaiden is most famed for its control scheme, and how incredibly responsive and smooth it is.

It's understandable that the creator of NG would hate timed-button presses in a similar type of game, as they're basically like interactive cutscenes and offer limited control to the player, a stark contrast to a game like Ninja Gaiden. I've heard many rumblings of button-mashing in Heavenly Sword, too, which he probably isn't a fan of either.

[QUOTE="inertk"]

[QUOTE="blacktorn"]Alot of people agree with him,as soon as the HS demo came out on psn it was clear from people's posts that they were disappointed with it,great graphics,half-baked gameplay seems to be a trend on the ps3.
blacktorn

Seems to be a trend.. In what games exactly?

Motorstorm,Lair,ratchet and clank (recycled gameplay mechanics).

I was actually looking forward for you to make a smart, intelligent post about why PS3 games are halfed-baked. However, seeing how you named games that not even out nor played left me disappointed. You win Fanboy of the day!

http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=19497

Heavenly Sword is "half-assed" says Itagaki

Lead graphics progammer of Tecmo Itagaki Tomonobu has slammed the PS3 exclusive title as 'half assed' in the latest issue of EGM. Itagaki commented that the game is 'half-assed' because its asking you to do all kinds of button timing sequences of which you as the game player don't really get much out of it from.

What a arrogant person... what is he basing this off the demo ? seriously. I just lost all respect for this guy. He creates one good game ( ninja gaiden ) and one ok fighter ( DOA ) and a booby game ( DOABV ) and all of a sudden he can talk **** about other devs like he is god or something ?

shaggymcp

agree

he even despite Tekken 6

I mean, come on, everybody knows Tekken 6 is gonna rock !!

I still respect Itagaki, he makes comments like these all the time but he is still one of the best game devs out there.

I mean Heavenly sword doesn't even have a jump button.

NG>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>HS

says the game who made the same game 3 timesRagashahs

Well you see this game (being an action game) will be in direct competition with his latest game (also an action game.) He just wants the sales of those buying HS. Its still pretty rude if you ask me. :|snorlaxmaster

[QUOTE="shaggymcp"]

http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=19497

Heavenly Sword is "half-assed" says Itagaki

Lead graphics progammer of Tecmo Itagaki Tomonobu has slammed the PS3 exclusive title as 'half assed' in the latest issue of EGM. Itagaki commented that the game is 'half-assed' because its asking you to do all kinds of button timing sequences of which you as the game player don't really get much out of it from.

What a arrogant person... what is he basing this off the demo ? seriously. I just lost all respect for this guy. He creates one good game ( ninja gaiden ) and one ok fighter ( DOA ) and a booby game ( DOABV ) and all of a sudden he can talk **** about other devs like he is god or something ?

Dreams-Visions

I agree with him. I found many elements of the gameplay were rather empty and rewardless.

I'm almost totally convinced that the story and audio will carry this game to an 8.5. Gameplay will not be this game's selling point. Not at all. Not when compared to the best action games out there.

AAA it will not be.

I agree 100%.

He's just saying that the whole "watch a scene happen and press whatever button flashes on the screen" thing is lame. I can easily see his point. He's saying that if you're not really playing the game, just pushing one button that you're prompted to push and then watching an animation, then what the hell's the point? Might as well be playing some rythm game.Michael85

its called context sensitive loads of great games have used it, shenmue, resident evil, god of war.

http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=19497

Heavenly Sword is "half-assed" says Itagaki

Lead graphics progammer of Tecmo Itagaki Tomonobu has slammed the PS3 exclusive title as 'half assed' in the latest issue of EGM. Itagaki commented that the game is 'half-assed' because its asking you to do all kinds of button timing sequences of which you as the game player don't really get much out of it from.

What a arrogant person... what is he basing this off the demo ? seriously. I just lost all respect for this guy. He creates one good game ( ninja gaiden ) and one ok fighter ( DOA ) and a booby game ( DOABV ) and all of a sudden he can talk **** about other devs like he is god or something ?

shaggymcp

any game that contends with his cup of tea is not cool.... yes ninja gaiden is good and yes DOA is cool but dang dev's hating devs now. i wonder how he feels about God of War?

http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=19497

Heavenly Sword is "half-assed" says Itagaki

Lead graphics progammer of Tecmo Itagaki Tomonobu has slammed the PS3 exclusive title as 'half assed' in the latest issue of EGM. Itagaki commented that the game is 'half-assed' because its asking you to do all kinds of button timing sequences of which you as the game player don't really get much out of it from.

What a arrogant person... what is he basing this off the demo ? seriously. I just lost all respect for this guy. He creates one good game ( ninja gaiden ) and one ok fighter ( DOA ) and a booby game ( DOABV ) and all of a sudden he can talk **** about other devs like he is god or something ?

shaggymcp