Iwata:Wii-U under powered is a BIG misconception

"Please understand"......"I must apologize" How many times can Iwata come out and repeat it? He's been saying this for a long time now, and it's getting to be pathetic. As if somehow saying these things excuses everything. Apparently he "understands" that he's not achieving what he's setting out to do, which only leaves two possibilities: he doesn't care (not likely) or is incompetent. Either way, this guy has got to go. If you feel the need to continue to tell people to understand, Iwata, then you're failing to make sense. MirkoS77

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[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]

"Nintendo is working on re-vitalizing the Wii U this Summer and Fall. Earlier this month,"

I think with this quote alone pretty much garentees that the rumors of a Wii-U "re-launch" is gonna happen sometime around E3.  The 3DS had a very successful re-launch,  I can see something similiar for the Wii U (minus the price cut.)

MFDOOM1983

3DS was only saved by the massive price-cut from $250 to $160, re-launches are irrelevant. For a similar effect the Wii U will need to go from $300 to $192 and nothing else can save it. It's always about the price, just look at the PS3 and then the PsP and then 3DS. People doesn't care about what's inside or its reliability (look at RRoD), they just want cheap stuff even if they are sh1t like the old Wii which stinks or broken from the manufacturer like the X360.

...not gonna buy it Iwata, it has 8-year old tech.

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"][QUOTE="mexicangordo"] Iwata:Wii-U under powered is a BIG misconception Bread_or_Decide

He is clearly in denial if he thinks the Wii U isn't underpowered. The system is using hardware that was obsolete six years ago. Nintendo is just a really cheap company and expects its fanbase to overpay for crap hardware. Fizzman

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Don;t speak more BS iwata please, its underpowered face it. 

AmnesiaHaze

^Can't you learn to multi-quote or just put everything into one post? Not to mention that's some horrible Nintendo hate and people saying it's old tech have no idea what they're talking about.

Put your money where your mouth is NintyCapitan_Kid

Nintendo will have games this year that get rid of that misconception.

Getting 3rd party's on board for multiplats is another story.  It doesn't matter to me if it gets multiplats that should be played on Ps4 anyways, just Nintendo.

At least Wii U is going to have some great 3rd party exclusives.

[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"]Put your money where your mouth is NintyKaze_no_Mirai

Nintendo and developing from the ground up to the max is night and day different from 3rd party ports.

If Nintendo's example was enough Wii would've gotten multiplats.

[QUOTE="Kaze_no_Mirai"][QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"]Put your money where your mouth is NintyChozofication

Nintendo and developing from the ground up to the max is night and day different from 3rd party ports.

If Nintendo's example was enough Wii would've gotten multiplats.

I just don't get why Nintendo didn't do all this extra stuff to begin with. Perhaps their management is too busy playing Mario than actually running the company.

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[QUOTE="Kaze_no_Mirai"] This. Nintendo needs to show by example.Kaze_no_Mirai

Nintendo and developing from the ground up to the max is night and day different from 3rd party ports.

If Nintendo's example was enough Wii would've gotten multiplats.

Underpowered compared to what?  It's head and shoulder's above Xbox 360. 

I just don't get why Nintendo didn't do all this extra stuff to begin with. Perhaps their management is too busy playing Mario than actually running the company.

Selkc

They were trying to prepare for HD development most likely.

Wii U is not underpowered...to people who know jack shit about technology.

^Can't you learn to multi-quote or just put everything into one post? Not to mention that's some horrible Nintendo hate and people saying it's old tech have no idea what they're talking about.

ChubbyGuy40

misconception....so its a lot more powerful than what we can see? even if it is, its still not going to match up to ps4 and the xbox3

I don't see the Wii U being as successful as the 720 and PS4, but I still believe there is a lot of potential in the system and that once the fluctuation of games kicks in, it'll find a foundation. Hopefully sooner rather than later.

[QUOTE="Kaze_no_Mirai"][QUOTE="Chozofication"]

Nintendo and developing from the ground up to the max is night and day different from 3rd party ports.

If Nintendo's example was enough Wii would've gotten multiplats.

Chozofication

Underpowered compared to what?  It's head and shoulder's above Xbox 360. 

Can't say I'm not enjoying what is happening to Nintendo. Sort of a lesson on what not to do to core gamers.

Hope the same fate to MS "if" the rumors of underpowerd casual X720 were true.

Can't say I'm not enjoying what is happening to Nintendo. Sort of a lesson on what not to do to core gamers.

Mystery_Writer

They were trying to appeal to "core" gamers in the GameCube era but it didn't work out that well...

They had some pretty cool commercials at launch frame:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yP-xFCajpm8

Can't say I'm not enjoying what is happening to Nintendo. Sort of a lesson on what not to do to core gamers.

Hope the same fate to MS "if" the rumors of underpowerd casual X720 were true.

Mystery_Writer

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Can't say I'm not enjoying what is happening to Nintendo. Sort of a lesson on what not to do to core gamers.

nameless12345

They were trying to appeal to "core" gamers in the GameCube era but it didn't work out that well...

They had some pretty cool commercials at launch frame:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yP-xFCajpm8

I'm really not a fan of this sort of argument. So they failed with a certain consumer base (a very important one at that) one gen, so just give up on them???

Look at the Wii-U, designed mostly for the "casual" base and look how that's doing with them... So assuming they don't ever manage to bring that big "Wii" consumer base over to the Wii-U this gen they should just give up on that casual base too in the future???

What does that leave them with??? Failed a gen with cores so give up on them, potential to fail a gen with casuals now so give up on them too??.....

They need to rethink their strategy and target consumers better next home console cycle.

[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]

Can't say I'm not enjoying what is happening to Nintendo. Sort of a lesson on what not to do to core gamers.

Hope the same fate to MS "if" the rumors of underpowerd casual X720 were true.

mexicangordo

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[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]

Can't say I'm not enjoying what is happening to Nintendo. Sort of a lesson on what not to do to core gamers.

Hope the same fate to MS "if" the rumors of underpowerd casual X720 were true.

MFDOOM1983

MS abandoned the core gamers started producing casual games in the last three years or so and barely published any exclusives.MS may actually try to please both groups next gen.

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="mexicangordo"] They didn't do anything to the core gamer...If anything MS has done worse to the core gamer than any other system last gen.

super600

MS abandoned the core gamers started producing casual games in the last three years or so and barely published any exclusives.MS may actually try to please both groups next gen.

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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"] The manufacturer of the console that has the largest, high-scoring library of its gen did the core gamer worse than Nintendo? The company that popularized this motion gaming shit and released a console that gave 3rd parties the middle finger, again. I know some people really love nintendo's old ips, but come on, man.MFDOOM1983

MS abandoned the core gamers started producing casual games in the last three years or so and barely published any exclusives.MS may actually try to please both groups next gen.

I pick quantity to, but that's what the cows use to bash MS.

That "try to lure" third parties line just calls to mind an image of Reggie driving an inconspicuous white van, with a bag of candy.darkspineslayer

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="super600"]

MS abandoned the core gamers started producing casual games in the last three years or so and barely published any exclusives.MS may actually try to please both groups next gen.

super600

I pick quantity to, but that's what the cows use to bash MS.

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[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]

Can't say I'm not enjoying what is happening to Nintendo. Sort of a lesson on what not to do to core gamers.

kenakuma

They were trying to appeal to "core" gamers in the GameCube era but it didn't work out that well...

They had some pretty cool commercials at launch frame:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yP-xFCajpm8

I'm really not a fan of this sort of argument. So they failed with a certain consumer base (a very important one at that) one gen, so just give up on them???

Look at the Wii-U, designed mostly for the "casual" base and look how that's doing with them... So assuming they don't ever manage to bring that big "Wii" consumer base over to the Wii-U this gen they should just give up on that casual base too in the future???

What does that leave them with??? Failed a gen with cores so give up on them, potential to fail a gen with casuals now so give up on them too??.....

They need to rethink their strategy and target consumers better next home console cycle.

I agree with you but at the same time I think going with the same philosopy as Sony (e.g. full focus on powerful hardware and high production games) would not work that well for Nintendo.

They need to play on different cards like control innovations, lower price, Nintendo exclusives and "family friendly" image in order to succeed.

The base problem with the WiiU is really that it doesn't have many "must have" Nintendo exclusives that would wow people yet.

I also think that making a bundle with just the pro pad for a lower price might actually not be that bad idea, if all games were made compatible with it.

As for the 3rd party problematic - I think people need first to ask themselves what kind of 3rd party games they would like to play on a Nintendo system.

I think the system needs more unique 3rd party games built ground-up for the U.

The Wonderful 101 is a great example but it would also need to be backed with some advertising to make Nintendo gamers interested, perhaps backed by Nintendo themselves.

I do not see the platform being very good for console cross-platform titles, especially not in the future.

But if we're discussing cross-platform handheld titles, then we may have a common language.