Is It Too Late to Join WoW

You're right, Zelda. The PvE content leading to 90 on WoW is laughable, but the same goes for ARR, too (just maybe slightly less so). Wildstar absolutely destroys both in terms of PvE difficulty leading up to max level.

The amount of people that still fail Titan and Garuda Normal mode is pretty high sadly...

WoW's questing is better from a gameplay perspective, far more variation these days, far more cohesive quests that link up.... FFXIV's questing is incredibly stale, but if all it takes is a cutscene to make them better to you then that's your choice... I guess... I personally find the story one of the most forgettable of any FF game and the voice acting kills it dead outright. I liek the concepts of the story, but the execution is pretty lame. hell I would say SWTOR did it better.... but I don't think we are talking about story or quest gameplay here... just pretty anime cutscenes? I'm spot on arn't I....

[quote]Yes, it's incredibly easy. All the way to the point where no strategy or gameplanning is really needed at all. Just stand still and commence the click-fest.[/quote]

..... ..... ..... ..... what I am reading? seriously what the hell am I reading? what is your experience with the game even?

Actually that would be hard mode :P

That would be pretty sad if people still wiped constantly on the normal versions.

I got nearly 6K hours spent on Guild Wars 2 since release, This game is amazing. Try it instead of WoW.

I agree with the person who said the thing. The characters and story-line for Realm Reborn, not just in the main quest but almost every aspect from class specific quests to side quests are well defined, thought out with multiple paragraphs of well written dialogue.

Being lowest common denominator style games, World Of Warcraft and Wildstar simply have the player spam click through content in order to reach end game content. Wildstar in particular should be critized, one of the poorest aspects of MMO's is a life-less repetitive world. While the game adds style, the story and characters have no substance, absolutely none.

As primarily a PVE player, who actually wants to engage in the big world created and learn about it, Realm Reborn is easily the best title since Lord Of The Rings: Online, which was primarily aimed at people who could read.

Aiming at people who cannot read, is primarily part of World Of Warcrafts success as well as the attraction of human-beings.

The maturity difference in Realm Reborn and Lord Of The Rings: Online is clear to see. Wonderful times, very jolly.

yup, all those tanks and healers that leave a random roulette.... the majority of duty groups dispand if people don't know tactics or whipe once or twice. super mature. its ok though because of cutscenes....

Yea cause no one has been doing that in WoW for years....

/end sarcasm

Agreed. Aside from being well written with context, Final Fantasy: Realm Reborn is a game title with an incredibly positive atmosphere.

Whenever a player is engaging in a battle, every single time, a passer by will help. Likewise, criticism in dungeons, guildhiests and PVP is mature and constructive with the majority of players showing patience for the fellow man.

By comparison, a lowest common denominator title such as "World O f Warcraft" it's fairly common for random players to randomly pm other players asking for gold.... because, just.

Other players spout obscenities and general rudeness while in dungeon making the entire experience ugly and negative for everyone involved.

In many ways, Realm Reborn is for the mature minded. Or at a more rudimentary level, the good.

World Of Warcraft preys on troubled teenagers aspirations, nurturing the cultivating the negative nature of culture (by cultivating it).

he claimed it was more mature.... yet nothing about the game indicates that.

Then again, cut scenes with short dialogues and terrible voice acting seems far worse than stories told through text.... on the maturity scale at least.

Instead we have the FFXIV reddit that instead of talking alot about tactics, stats builds and the like (because the game does its best to appeal to the lowest common denominator by making everything hidden and shallow) we have the fan base posting silly pictures of naked men in houses over and over.

Anyone trying to get into WoW is a couple of years late tbh

The WoW sub reddit is the same though, in fact no one can claim any MMO's community is mature enough to not be pricks, discuss strats, not dick around/ troll in chat ect ect.

@MBirdy88: We seem to feel the same way about A Realm Reborn. I enjoy playing, but there are a bunch of problems with the game that are starting to make me lose interest. I'm also disappointed with the lack of customization. Cross class skills could definitely use some reworking. We now also have the Novus weapon which allows some customization, but of course, you have that crowd insisting you customize it one way or it's considered garbage. You just know the developers will see those comments and say, "That's why we don't have many customization options." In fact, I think Yoshi-P confirmed that during E3 when asked about adding more armor options and new stats.

Regarding the original question, I don't think it's too late to get into WoW as the community is still active. Shame that with the expansion, more customization options are being removed. Why is this a thing? =(

everything he says proves he is catering to the lowest common denominator, he cares more about new players than maintain a high quality product for the more loyal fanbase.... wants those re-subs over and over when the next bit of substance less content comes in... I've lost most of my respect for him at this point. Maybe I'm being harsh and its his higher ups that have forced him due to SE's poor financial situation who knows.

Things like "We don't have 24 man raiding content because players find that hard to organise and won't experience it". oh there are plenty of terrible quotes going around at the moment in terms of his future game design.... its a really sad waste of potential.

Every new dungeon and primal since 2.2 has been redundant because he doesn't want new players to have to work for their gear at all.... 3 new dungeons... breeze through them no effort.... nothing has been even remotely close to as hard as AK on release pre-nerf and iLvL limited.

"DPS metres would harm players feelings"

"voice chat so that PC and PS users can communicate is bad because woman might be attacked by men verbally"

"I don't trust the player base with detailed stats and custimsation as they might be confused by it"...

He sthe Nintendo of the MMO world..... light years behind and treating his user base like children.

Its ok according to the white knights though because we get 1 8 man coil every 6 months and all of the previous content is made redundant after 3. yeeesh.

So look at all the paid subscription MMO's they're wither dead or were forced to go FTP. I predict ESO will have to go FTP as it's bleeding players.

Exactly how would charging a monthly subscription supposed to help Guild Wars 2? What is the thinking behind this? The games doing bad so you're going to charge more money?

Edit: Oh wait NVM I see I'm arguing with an alt, I thought I was being trolled.