Is Helldivers 2 still the current GOTY after DD2 release?

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#1  Edited By TheEroica  Moderator
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Struggling to comprehend how Helldivers 2 gets beat for goty this year, but there are some games still yet to come out.... Honestly I thought if anything has a shot it's DD2 because the gameplay will be excellent... That said, the launch was not as celebratory as I'd thought and maybe DD2 won't have the special sauce after all... I'd never personally give a goty award away to a fart sniffing remake (unless we want to just go ahead and declare gaming dead) so Final Fantasy is out....

We're almost 1/3rd of the way through 2024.... Does Halldivers 2 maintain its lock on goty?

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FF7 Rebirth for me

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Final Fantasy VII Rebirth is still far and away mine. Still need to play Dragon’s Dogma 2 though. As much as I think that I’ll enjoy it I have a difficult time thinking that it’ll overtake FFVII Rebirth.

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143h in Helldivers 2 and 3h in DD2. I can't say as of yet. And dd2's launch positivity was completely rolled by the game running poorly and mtx that shouldn't have been there, but that doesn't mean that the game itself isn't good.

Also, No Rest For The Wicked has everything needed to win GOTY, so unless the full game doesn't come out this year, this has high potential as well. Stalker 2, if its anything like i imagine it being, has extreme potential of being my personal goty, but because this developers is literally not showing anything about the game, i just don't trust them at all.

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#5  Edited By Pedro
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I will wait for the end of the year, but Helldivers 2 is not on my list.

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#6  Edited By TheEroica  Moderator
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@Pedro said:

I will wait for the end of the year, but Helldivers 2 is not on my list.

Did you get it on pc yet?

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@TheEroica said:

Did you get it on pc yet?

Yep! I played a bit I wasn't moved. I probably have to try again another time.

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No Forza Horizon 6 will be GOTY. It will be announced at MS E3 type show in June and will be released in October.

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#9 hardwenzen
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@last_lap said:

No Forza Horizon 6 will be GOTY. It will be announced at MS E3 type show in June and will be released in October.

Never forget that.

It will be another MADE FOR GAMEPASS unfinished shitshow that will fade from public within 72h.

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#10  Edited By WitIsWisdom  Online
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Of all the games I've gotten so far this year Helldivers 2 is EASILY at the very bottom of the pile and my son agrees.. such an overrated game that was given more credit than was due because of the friendly price tag (this is just my opinion though). I don't usually fall for hype, but I had to see what all the commotion was about. What did I get? A game easily outdone by others in its genre like Destiny, Outriders, and Warframe. GOTY? Not a single chance in hell in my opinion.

I'd put the games I've bought this year in this order

1. Unicorn Overlord

2. Granblue Fantasy Relink

2. Dragons Dogma 2

4. The Outlast Trials

4. MLB The Show 24

6. Rise of the Ronin

7. Helldivers 2

April games I'd like to get include Eiyuden Chronicles, SaGa Emerald Beyond, Crown Wars, and possibly Stellar Blade but probably not. Eiyuden Chronicles is my only for sure day one though. Something tells me that HD2 will continue its downward slide. I'm happy for everyone/anyone who enjoyed the game, but I don't get it.

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@hardwenzen: Yeah just like Forza Horizon 5 was, oh wait...

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#12  Edited By WitIsWisdom  Online
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Of all the games I've gotten so far this year Helldivers 2 is EASILY at the very bottom of the pile.. such an overrated game that was given more credit than was due because of the friendly price tag. GOTY? Not a single chance in hell in my opinion.

I'd put them in this order

1. Unicorn Overlord

2. Granblue Fantasy Relink

2. Dragons Dogma 2

4. The Outlast Trials

4. MLB The Show 24

4. Rise of the Ronin

7. Helldivers 2

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@last_lap said:

@hardwenzen: Yeah just like Forza Horizon 5 was, oh wait...

Those days are long gone. Halo Infinite, Redfall, Hellblade2, Starfield, Forza8 is the future of MS quality. Please enjoy.

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#14  Edited By Vaasman
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It's still early in the year but it doesn't seem anywhere near as heavy as 2023 was. Helldiver's 2 is fine and pretty fun but if it ends up GOTY, more than anything that would just be proof that 2024 sucks, much like when Shadows of Mordor won here and DA: I elsewhere in 2014.

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@hardwenzen: Tryharderwenzen 🤣

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@last_lap said:

@hardwenzen: Tryharderwenzen 🤣

Do you want me to remind you when Hellblade 2 comes out? Nvm, even if you don't, i will remind you. You will learn the "made for gamepass" the hard way with me.

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@last_lap: I believe I made a similar post before but I'll delete my account and buy you an xbox if FH6 ever won GOTY lmao. Not happening.

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@last_lap: I believe I made a similar post before but I'll delete my account and buy you an xbox if FH6 ever won GOTY lmao. Not happening.

The GOTY awards are fake anyway. Even if FH6 got a 100/100 on your beloved metashitic it still wouldn't be nominated because of bias against racing games, it's as simple a s that.

I've even seen a Youtuber who has voted on the shonky awards show saying that racing games shouldn't qualify for the GOTY because it's a racing game and has no story.

It was some of the dumbest shit i've ever heard.

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#19  Edited By Mozelleple112
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@last_lap: Don't worry, FH6 won't get over 95/100 on metacritic either.

a 9/10 racer is like a 5/10 RPG anyway lmao they get reviewed much more generously than action/FPS/RPG.

FH5 released in the worst gaming year in history and it still didn't win GOTY. Thankfully they gave it to It Takes Two, a much better game than FH5.


"but its the best racer".

Even if it was (it might not be, idc) that's like saying EA 24 or FIFA 25 should win GOTY because they are the best football games or something. They are trash.

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Helldivers 2 aint winning GOTY.

Its a fun multiplayer game but nothing else.

DD2, as I kind of feared, is no where near as good as people hyped it up to be.

People said it was the new Elden Ring. People expected 95+/100 metacritic. 10/10s across the board.

Instead what we got was a decent 8/10 (with mods) game. It isn't winning GOTY either.

FF7 Rebirth is the leading candidate for GOTY thus far,

though my bet is still (as I said in my thread months ago) - Ken Levine's JUDAS.

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#21 Zero_epyon
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Love the game and I see it getting a nom but having it win has a low chance imo. It’s too early to tell.

I want it to at least get the nom so we see TGA’s orchestra play the theme.

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Way too early to start talking about GOTY. Come ask me that question when were in October/November.

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@TheEroica said:

Struggling to comprehend how Helldivers 2 gets beat for goty this year, but there are some games still yet to come out.... Honestly I thought if anything has a shot it's DD2 because the gameplay will be excellent... That said, the launch was not as celebratory as I'd thought and maybe DD2 won't have the special sauce after all... I'd never personally give a goty award away to a fart sniffing remake (unless we want to just go ahead and declare gaming dead) so Final Fantasy is out....

We're almost 1/3rd of the way through 2024.... Does Halldivers 2 maintain its lock on goty?

Helldivers 2 was never GOTY though. It's a fun little game, but the hype is now gone and the online population is plummeting.

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FF7 Rebirth clears both this year. Easy GOTY for me even though the ending suck assssssssszzzzzzz.

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#25  Edited By Heil68
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@Pedro said:
@TheEroica said:

Did you get it on pc yet?

Yep! I played a bit I wasn't moved. I probably have to try again another time.

We should schedule a time to play. I can get it for PS5.

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@Heil68 said:

We should schedule a time to play. I can get it for PS5.

I will play!

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#27  Edited By Last_Lap
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@Mozelleple112: You should stick to parroting Metashitic scores and the like as your personal opinions are some of the worst takes here.

Let me try and spin it like you did and let's see if you see how ridiculous it sounds.

A 9/10 rpg is like a 5/10 racing game and should never win goty.

But, but it's the best rpg.

Sounds dumb right, well welcome to your world 🤣

It's called GAME of the year, so no matter the game it should not be disqualified because of its genre.

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@Heil68 said:
@Pedro said:

Yep! I played a bit I wasn't moved. I probably have to try again another time.

We should schedule a time to play. I can get it for PS5.

We should.

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@Pedro said:
@Heil68 said:
@Pedro said:

Yep! I played a bit I wasn't moved. I probably have to try again another time.

We should schedule a time to play. I can get it for PS5.

We should.

I'm in. TheEroica on steam. Will play anytime!

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@Mozelleple112 said:

Helldivers 2 aint winning GOTY.

Its a fun multiplayer game but nothing else.

DD2, as I kind of feared, is no where near as good as people hyped it up to be.

People said it was the new Elden Ring. People expected 95+/100 metacritic. 10/10s across the board.

Instead what we got was a decent 8/10 (with mods) game. It isn't winning GOTY either.

FF7 Rebirth is the leading candidate for GOTY thus far,

though my bet is still (as I said in my thread months ago) - Ken Levine's JUDAS.

That generic looking DEI game? It stinks of sweet baby inc.

When i first saw it, i thought "a bioshock clone". Found out it's by the original bioshock creator. First game in 10 years, and this his creative debut after all that time.

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@palasta: What's DEI?

From google: Divery, Equity and Inclusion? if so I don't understand how its anymore 'DEI' than any other Western game lmao. Female protagonist?

I have a strong feeling Judas will be a 94-97/100 metacritic, GOTY-winning masterpiece. I said it since the first second it was revealed. Now that we have seen more footage and revealed more of the story - my opinion still stands.

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#32  Edited By Mozelleple112
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@last_lap:

It sounds dumb, because are are literally using the OPPOSITE of the truth to make a point?

Let me explain how dumb your thought process was:

My statement: Men in general are stronger than women (fact)

Your statement: Nooo, women are stronger than men - See how dumb it sounds Mozelle?

My statement was a factoid, while your statement was absolutely ludicrous.

If I say winter is colder than summer, you can't just swap it around and say summer is actually colder than winter and try to claim a point. That's dumb. Do better.

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#33  Edited By Mozelleple112
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@last_lap:

And guess what buddy, who said anything about being disqualified? Did I ever disqualify it? In fact I absolutely think FH5 should have been nominated in 2021 (I believe it was, the year was weak AF - what other 6 games released that shit year?) but does it win? No. It doesn't. Is it because its a racing game? No. Its because its not good enough to win.

No Turn10 / Playground game will ever win GOTY the same year a From Soft / Santa Monica / Naughty Dog / Rockstar North / Kojima Productions / Larian / Nintendo EPD game is released. Not because they make racing games, but because they don't make games as good as the studios mentioned.

So actually, 2024 will be their best shot. ( I don't think any of the studios above are releasing anything this year!)

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#34  Edited By Last_Lap
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@Mozelleple112 said:

@last_lap:

It sounds dumb, because are are literally using the OPPOSITE of the truth to make a point?

Let me explain how dumb your thought process was:

My statement: Men in general are stronger than women (fact)

Your statement: Nooo, women are stronger than men - See how dumb it sounds Mozelle?

My statement was a factoid, while your statement was absolutely ludicrous.

If I say winter is colder than summer, you can't just swap it around and say summer is actually colder than winter and try to claim a point. That's dumb. Do better.

You do know what factoid means right?

"an item of unreliable information that is reported and repeated so often that it becomes accepted as fact."

While you may repeat it over and over, only people (like you) who don't want to accept actual facts are the one who continue to reiterate your dumb argument.

Racing games as with all over genres can qualify for GOTY as long as it's a good game genre has nothing to do with it.

To say a 9/10 racing game is equivalent to a 5/10 rpg is as dumb as it gets and is not the truth, it's an opinion and a dumb one at that. Like I said stick to Metashitcs opinions.

Speaking of Metashitic, a little bit of research says that 110 reviewers reviewed Forza Horizon 5 and were all positive, but couldn't get a nod for a nominee for GOTY, and yet Elden Ring only has 93 reviews all positive even though Namco issued a public public apology over its performance issues and not ONE of those reviewers marked the game down for it, and was not only nominated but won GOTY, talk about fake awards.

Oh and FH5 was the second highest rated game in 2021 only beaten by a game that got just 10 reviews, and was higher rated than the eventual winner in It Takes Two 88 the 11th highest rated game of 2021, I love it when you're Metashitic bites you on the arse.

**** I feel dirty for using Metashitic to shut you down, but it had to be done, now do better, way better mozzy.

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DEI: Woke 2.0. Commonly used in a derogatory way by folks who fall into one or more the following categories: racist, sexists, homophobic, fragile men and folks that are not being 100% pandered to. It can also be used to replace unacceptable words that would perfectly fit in several of the previous categories. 🙃

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The gift that keeps on giving.

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#37 SecretPolice
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Didn't

Earn

It

Nuff said. :P

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Currently my GOTY is Unicorn Overlord

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Easily the best game I played this year anyway! Haven’t gotten around to FF7 rebirth yet so that might beat it

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#40 hardwenzen
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@Maroxad said:

Currently my GOTY is Unicorn Overlord

Your goty is always the kind of games your 2016 gpu can handle.🤭

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#41  Edited By Mozelleple112
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@last_lap: Another day, another moment of Last Lap not understanding what he is reading.

I never said FORZA isn't winning BECAUSE its a racing game, I'm saying it will never win because it is not good enough.

Let me rephrase to help you understand:

Australia is NEVER going win the world cup. (quote me on this, til the day I die)

Last Lap's dumb logic:

"Mozelle is saying Australians don't qualify to play in the WC and that FIFA have a racial bias against people born in Australian."

Mozelle's actual logic: Australians are dogshit at playing football.

Racers are included in GOTY awards and can be 100% be nominated. I even said FH5 deserved a nomination in 2021 did I not? Whether it did or not, I can see it deserving one of the 6 spots. But #1? Hahah never. Not even in 2021. Its not better than It Takes Two, or Returnal, or even Halo Infinite.

Now is any Forza Horizon game good enough to ever win GOTY? No. Far from it. They are not on the level of The Last of Us, Witcher 3, BOTW, RDR2, GoW, Bloodborne, Sekiro, The Last of Us 2, Elden Ring, GoW: Ragarnarök, BG3, RE4, etc. etc.

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#42  Edited By Mozelleple112
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@last_lap: Also, your religious use of metacritic is pathetic. Imagine thinking metacritic is valued more than awards or that metacritic should be the only way of critiquing a games quality. I use it as one of several metrics of evaluating and assessing a games quality.


And Elden Ring's metacritic score is 97 and FH5's is 92. the .5 difference might not sound like much but that's the difference between being the 15th highest rated game of all time (or so) and not even top 100 highest rated of all time.

2021 was the worst year in the history of gaming, so yeah FH5 happened to be the second highest game, behind some piece of shit I have never even heard of: "The House in Fata Morgana - Dreams of the Revenants Edition"

These shitty Switch games, like racing games get reviewed a much more generous scale than other genres so I knew that neither one of those two would win GOTY.

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#43 Warm_Gun
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I don't know Helldivers.

Would rather play DD2 with a bunch of developer-made characters with personalities and stories who can be swapped in and out of the party, and the ability to play as anyone in the party at will. Character creation is bad, always was. All the okay looking characters people have made look samey because they picked from the only good presets, and they all have messed up anatomy and dead faces anyway.

Game also looks too much like the original. Too much sequelitis. But that's Itsuno for you. Only iterates. Why I don't like DMC4 and 5 much.

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#44  Edited By Mozelleple112
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@warm_gun: I agree 100% on this. I don't know why so many disagree.

A well made character > custom character every time.

Big Boss vs custom - Big Boss wins

Jack Shephard vs custom - give me Cpt. Shephard

Geralt (TW3) vs custom in TESIV/TESV - easily Geralt

Sekiro (vs custom tarnished/undead/chosen one/hunter) - Sekiro is From's best protagonist by miles.

Edit: Not going to agree on your disliking DMC5 though lol, DMC5 is the best DMC since DMC1.

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@hardwenzen said:
@Maroxad said:

Currently my GOTY is Unicorn Overlord

Your goty is always the kind of games your 2016 gpu can handle.🤭

Considering all the build potential that game has, you would probably like it.

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#46 hardwenzen
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@Maroxad said:
@hardwenzen said:
@Maroxad said:

Currently my GOTY is Unicorn Overlord

Your goty is always the kind of games your 2016 gpu can handle.🤭

Considering all the build potential that game has, you would probably like it.

No chance of it being better than either hl2 or dd2, and i am not about to play a 2d game on a 27" screen. These games are made for handhelds, and i don't own one, so no thanks.

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@hardwenzen said:

No chance of it being better than either hl2 or dd2, and i am not about to play a 2d game on a 27" screen. These games are made for handhelds, and i don't own one, so no thanks.

Going by Metacritic, considering how much you love that site.

87 (Unicorn Overlord) > 86 (Dragons Dogma 2) > 82 (Helldivers 2)

Helldivers 2 is a fan favorite. Its critical reception was nowhere near as strong.

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@Maroxad said:
@hardwenzen said:

No chance of it being better than either hl2 or dd2, and i am not about to play a 2d game on a 27" screen. These games are made for handhelds, and i don't own one, so no thanks.

Going by Metacritic, considering how much you love that site.

87 (Unicorn Overlord) > 86 (Dragons Dogma 2) > 82 (Helldivers 2)

Helldivers 2 is a fan favorite. Its critical reception was nowhere near as strong.

I do love the site, its fav, i adore it, but DD1 didn't score that well, and was one of my fav titles from the 7th gen, so in certain occasions, scores mean nothing.

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@Mozelleple112: YOU'RE the one who uses Metashitic as a gaming bible on here, and when I use it against you, well then you try to change the narrative, i'm not even surprised as its just what you guys do. I see you mentioned ER's Metashitic score and yet didn't even acknowledge that the score is fake because Namco had to issue a public apology for the games poor performance that EVERY reviewer ignored and scored it highly.

Metashitic is as rigged as the GOTY awards.

You don't believe that FH shouldn't win GOTY because it's a racing game, you don't have to say it for me to see that's what you mean.

I get it you need a story to play a game, and so do the judges who nominate for the GOTY awards, That's why the awards are fake and don't represent all games and more importantly all GAMERS.

I'll take anything Playground Games make over all the other overrated games you've mentioned.

Bringing Soccer into this is as a dumb as it gets, but I am talking to Mozzy, so it goes with the territory.

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#50  Edited By Maroxad
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@hardwenzen said:

I do love the site, its fav, i adore it, but DD1 didn't score that well, and was one of my fav titles from the 7th gen, so in certain occasions, scores mean nothing.

Well, if you are going to be that inconsistant with your standards

Unicorn Overlord, a Vanillaware gem with best in class Ogre Battle style Gameplay has met better fan reception than Dragon's Dogma 2. Not surprising too, considering DD2 issues ranging from pacing, enemy variety and lack of innovation. As for Unicorn Overlord, it innovates on so many regards, so it is no surprise people love it.

The only major issue is that the game wasnt on PC, where there was a huge audience for it.