Is getting a 10/10 on GS a shoo-in for GOTY?

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Poll Is getting a 10/10 on GS a shoo-in for GOTY? (61 votes)

yea 18%
no 82%

I mean, if Bayonetta 2 doesn't get GOTY - can we really say a 10/10 has any significance? I personally think Divinity is still GOTY. What do you think, SW? Is it guaranteed? What is your GOTY?

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#1 freedomfreak  Online
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Bayonetta 2, all day, every day. The one and true AAAAE.

And stuff.

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#2 jg4xchamp
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SMG2 10/10 in 2010

GS GOTY in 2010= Red Dead Redemption

A review is one person's opinion, and GOTY is a group decision.

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@jg4xchamp said:

SMG2 10/10 in 2010

GS GOTY in 2010= Red Dead Redemption

A review is one person's opinion, and GOTY is a group decision.

^^this

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@jg4xchamp said:

SMG2 10/10 in 2010

GS GOTY in 2010= Red Dead Redemption

A review is one person's opinion, and GOTY is a group decision.

Yup. But Bayonetta 2 is still a very likely candidate. Right now, i'd say it's between Bay2, Divinity OS and Dark Souls 2. But the year's not over yet.

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@jg4xchamp said:

SMG2 10/10 in 2010

GS GOTY in 2010= Red Dead Redemption

A review is one person's opinion, and GOTY is a group decision.

Then divinity lost all its chance from winning goty here.

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@GarGx1 said:

@jg4xchamp said:

SMG2 10/10 in 2010

GS GOTY in 2010= Red Dead Redemption

A review is one person's opinion, and GOTY is a group decision.

^^this

yeahh this

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#7  Edited By trugs26
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Super Mario Galaxy 2.

/thread.

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#8 IgGy621985
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Giving 10/10 to any game is just laughable.

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#9 TheEroica  Moderator
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Nope but it helps make a case.

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#10 Telekill
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So far, Destiny wins my personal GOTY.

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#11  Edited By TheEroica  Moderator
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@Telekill: every time I put it down I get sucked back in kicking and screaming...

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@IgGy621985 said:

Giving 10/10 to any game is just laughable.

No it's not.

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#13  Edited By IgGy621985
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@speedfreak48t5p said:

@IgGy621985 said:

Giving 10/10 to any game is just laughable.

No it's not.

Yeah it is. No game out there deserves a 10. Never will.

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#14  Edited By Demonjoe93
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Super Mario Galaxy 2 says hi. That game got a 10 here and was the only game to get such a score, yet Red Dead Redemption won. I always though RDR was a little overrated myself, but then again, I've never been able to get into sandbox games the way other people could. Although I think the fact that the first Super Mario Galaxy 1 got GOTY here did have an impact on GS's decision.

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#15 deactivated-583e460ca986b
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Like others have said, a review is just one persons opinion. If Carolyn Petite or Tom McShea were still here and reviewed Bayoneta 2, it would have scored a 6 or 7 because of the side boob and crotch shots. There is no way either of them would have voted for B2 for goty. And I'm sure it won't be unanimous among the staff here now.

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no

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#17  Edited By freedomfreak  Online
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@IgGy621985 said:

Yeah it is. No game out there deserves a 10. Never will.

Silly thing to say. Why have a 10 in the first place then? It's reserved for games that are at the peak of their genre. That absolutely succeed in all it tries to do.

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@freedomfreak said:
@IgGy621985 said:

Yeah it is. No game out there deserves a 10. Never will.

Silly thing to say. Why have a 10 in the first place then? It's reserved for games that are at the peak of their genre. That absolutely succeed in all it tries to do.

10 is an overexaggerated score. A clear message from a web site they're sticking out of publisher's arse.

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#19  Edited By freedomfreak  Online
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@IgGy621985 said:

10 is an overexaggerated score. A clear message from a web site they're sticking out of publisher's arse.

12/10 would be over-exaggerated. A 10/100/A+ whatever are all part of the review scale, and get used to score how good a game is.

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#20 IgGy621985
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@freedomfreak said:
@IgGy621985 said:

10 is an overexaggerated score. A clear message from a web site they're sticking out of publisher's arse.

12/10 would be over-exaggerated. A 10/100/A+ whatever are all part of the review scale, and get used to score how good a game is.

Well, okay, but I stand by what I said. Imho no game deserves a 10 because every title out there has some kind of shortcoming.

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@IgGy621985 said:

Well, okay, but I stand by what I said. Imho no game deserves a 10 because every title out there has some kind of shortcoming.

10 doesn't mean it's perfect either. GS called it "Prime" first, but now it's "Essential". I like essential more. Sounds fabulous.

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#22 lostrib
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@IgGy621985: you should probably look up what a 10 on GS means then.

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#23 Lulu_Lulu
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Nope....

Besides it doesn't matter who wins the GOTY award.... the award itself is invalid.

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#24 lostrib
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Well that was settled rather quickly

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#25 IgGy621985
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@lostrib: @freedomfreak: Granted. However imho no game is that good to get a 10 and never will be.

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@IgGy621985 said:

Granted. However imho no game is that good to get a 10 and never will be.

That's okay, man. I don't like arguing with Silent Bob anyway. He'll stay quiet the entire time, and at some point drop a truth bomb on me.

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#27  Edited By Gue1
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that 10/10 is the opinion of just one person not gamespot. I suppose before choosing a GOTY they all gather in a room to discuss which one will it be.

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@IgGy621985 said:

Giving 10/10 to any game is just laughable.

even on a 10 point scale? Come on now

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No especially when the review was from a freelance journalist who probably won't be in the discussion for choosing game of the year.

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@IgGy621985 said:

@freedomfreak said:
@IgGy621985 said:

10 is an overexaggerated score. A clear message from a web site they're sticking out of publisher's arse.

12/10 would be over-exaggerated. A 10/100/A+ whatever are all part of the review scale, and get used to score how good a game is.

Well, okay, but I stand by what I said. Imho no game deserves a 10 because every title out there has some kind of shortcoming.

If the short-comings are so small that they don't influence the opinion of the rest of the game, then I think that a 10 is reasonable to give. For example, Dark Souls may have some frame rate issues, but everything else was so amazing that those issues didn't influence my experience.

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#31 which_wich
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History says no. The only thing it means is that you get to rub it in Lems and Herms faces because they're the only ones without an exclusive 10

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Quake and godline miami is better

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#33  Edited By Kaze_no_Mirai
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@Minishdriveby said:

No especially when the review was from a freelance journalist who probably won't be in the discussion for choosing game of the year.

Isnt Mark Walton staff?

As for the question, no it doesn't make it a shoe in. But it also doesn't mean that the score has no significance.

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#34 blackace
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No, but Bayonetta 2 will probably be on the list.

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#35 LegatoSkyheart
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Super Mario Galaxy 2.

10/10 for 2010.

Red Dead Redemption won that year.

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#36  Edited By deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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I'd like for it to go to Dark Souls 2 or Bayonetta 2. I would be happy with any of these choices

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#37  Edited By Minishdriveby
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@Kaze_no_Mirai said:

@Minishdriveby said:

No especially when the review was from a freelance journalist who probably won't be in the discussion for choosing game of the year.

Isnt Mark Walton staff?

As for the question, no it doesn't make it a shoe in. But it also doesn't mean that the score has no significance.

I thought that when Gamespot was talking about all the 10 out of 10 reviews they've given, they said Chrono Cross and Bayonetta 2 were outsourced.

EDIT: Nevermind, they were saying like Chrono Cross no one else in the office could vogue for it because no one else had played it yet.

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No, and with so many fantastic games that have come out, and still to come out, I would be disappointed to see Bayonetta 2 get GOTY.. although if GS wants to help Nintendo boost sales that might help along with the 10/10 score.

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@jg4xchamp said:

A review is one person's opinion, and GOTY is a group decision.

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#40 foxhound_fox
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Nothing is a "shoe in" when it comes to GOTY on Gamespot.

Tons of people weren't expecting a handheld Zelda title to win last year, let alone out do much bigger games and ones that people thought were significantly better.

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@IgGy621985 said:

@speedfreak48t5p said:

@IgGy621985 said:

Giving 10/10 to any game is just laughable.

No it's not.

Yeah it is. No game out there deserves a 10. Never will.

Then why have it on the scale at all? If it's unattainable, might as well just remove it and have 9 be the highest rating, don't you think?

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@Minishdriveby said:

I thought that when Gamespot was talking about all the 10 out of 10 reviews they've given, they said Chrono Cross and Bayonetta 2 were outsourced.

EDIT: Nevermind, they were saying like Chrono Cross no one else in the office could vogue for it because no one else had played it yet.

Yeah I was pretty sure that Chrono Cross was the Black Sheep of the 10/10s. The Gamespot staff was pretty much confident that Bayonetta 2 deserved the 10.

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@charizard1605 said:

@IgGy621985 said:

@speedfreak48t5p said:

@IgGy621985 said:

Giving 10/10 to any game is just laughable.

No it's not.

Yeah it is. No game out there deserves a 10. Never will.

Then why have it on the scale at all? If it's unattainable, might as well just remove it and have 9 be the highest rating, don't you think?

Not really. When someone gives a 10 to a game it sends me several potential messages: it isn't objective; it may be a conflict of interests (publisher paid for the review); it may be a part of publisher's marketing campaign (flood of 10s in the case of Halo 3 and several other games).

Simply put, it just doesn't feel right.

I'd leave 1-10 scoring system, but "10" should be like an unconquerable mountain peak. Because there will always be better games.

Imho, of course.

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If last year was an indication then no. Because the staff game LOU most votes but Zelda still won

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alien isolation its my GOTY for me

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@undefined: the last of us says "no"

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@IgGy621985 said:

Giving 10/10 to any game is just laughable.

Why? that's stupid to have a scale where you have a score you aren't going to use.

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#48  Edited By kinectthedots
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@TheEroica said:

Nope but it helps make a case.

No, it really does't.

You should know this best when you Heil68 and other SW members were trying to nominate the best games of last generation. All of you had personal "best games" (lets say your "10" game of the gen) that were completely different from each other, but you had to compromise and make cuts to decided on one game that had qualities you all could come to grips with.

That is the same way a GOTY is presented. Just because the one reviewer thought it was a "10" another reviewer could see it as a "7". One glowing opinion isn't going to sway opinions of others who feel there are other games that were better.

All the "10" does is put it in the running for the GOTY award, which it may win, but the score only serves a guaranteed nomination. Honestly, scores are probably thrown out the window when it comes to actually deciding the GOTY among the best games of the year.

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#49  Edited By Notorious1234NA
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Destiny game of the year

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#50 Heil68
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@jg4xchamp said:

SMG2 10/10 in 2010

GS GOTY in 2010= Red Dead Redemption

A review is one person's opinion, and GOTY is a group decision.

thank goodness.