Is 343 About To Get Canceled? 343 Put Juneteenth Nameplate Named 'Bonobo' After Species of Ape In Halo Infinite...

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#1  Edited By deactivated-63d2876fd4204
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Just reading through the Twitter threads, or this ResetEra thread will illustrate how the 343 response doesn't add up/make sense. (One user posts: The palette name isn't even based on the tag name, it is all controlled serverside hence the fix without a patch. So, using the tool as an excuse just doesn't hold up either way.) Why would the tool name be used instead of some default or placeholder title? There is 0% chance it was just some oversight for a Juneteenth nameplate... Or the 343 QA team is really that bad...

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#2 Zero_epyon
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Whether they're telling the truth or not, this is a really bad look.

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Thanks for changing Microsoft, we forgive you.

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#4 Archangel3371
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Mistakes were made. They have been corrected. I forgive them.

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#5  Edited By SargentD
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Lol

This is so stupid, who cares

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#6 hardwenzen
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Precisely the kind of developers that need to release a beta test for something as simple as coop. For the last year, i would go as far as to say that they're worse than Ubisoft. Yes, Ubisoft. I repeat, UBISOFT. Let that sink in.

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#7 dimebag667
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@hardwenzen: did you say Ubisoft?

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#8  Edited By st_monica
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For some reason, I am not at all surprised by that.

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Halo Infinite’s Juneteenth content was named ‘Bonobo,’  a great ape.
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#9 Sagemode87
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As a Black person, I have to associate anything primate with Black? Tired of sensitive woke ideologies telling me to be offended. Yeah there's a history there but it doesn't mean every situation has toxicity behind it.

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#10 BenjaminBanklin
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This wasn't a mistake, they're damage controlling for some shitlord with a grudge. Looks like it's been rectified, but that excuse is flimsy

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#11 Zero_epyon
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I want to believe this was an accident. But you gotta ask yourself, why this tag, for this holiday, and not literally anything else they name?

That’s the part I have trouble believing. Like I said, it’s a bad look. If they’re telling the truth then they have very bad QA practices. If they’re not, then…

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#12 hardwenzen
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@dimebag667 said:

@hardwenzen: did you say Ubisoft?

Indeed. I went as far as to mention Ubisoft. And trust me, i get it, its hard to believe, but yes, Ubisoft. Now, of course as soon as ubisoft releases their next POS, they'll be back at being the king of POS, but since they've been silent ever since their garbage far cry 34 failed, they're less noticeable and annoying.

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#13 DaVillain  Moderator
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Some people (like myself) tend to forget Juneteenth is a federal holiday as it was introduced last year. The lack of knowledge of Juneteenth is one thing, and even if you didn't know about the holiday, it's easiest one of the most important moments in U.S History. 343 may be the laziest Halo developers but I won't bad mouth them cause everyone makes mistakes and they correct this so all is good on 343's part.

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#14 mrbojangles25
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They acknowledged their error and took corrective action.

This is a non-issue.

Anyone wanting more out of this is petty and vengeful.

@Archangel3371 said:

Mistakes were made. They have been corrected. I forgive them.

Pretty much.

@Zero_epyon said:

I want to believe this was an accident. But you gotta ask yourself, why this tag, for this holiday, and not literally anything else they name?

That’s the part I have trouble believing. Like I said, it’s a bad look. If they’re telling the truth then they have very bad QA practices. If they’re not, then…

@BenjaminBanklin said:

This wasn't a mistake, they're damage controlling for some shitlord with a grudge. Looks like it's been rectified, but that excuse is flimsy

Fair enough, but I don't think it hurts anyone to give them the benefit of the doubt.

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#15 Pedro
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That is very sloppy but this is 343 Industries we are talking about. Incompetency on all levels.

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#16 Pedro
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@Sagemode87 said:

As a Black person, I have to associate anything primate with Black? Tired of sensitive woke ideologies telling me to be offended. Yeah there's a history there but it doesn't mean every situation has toxicity behind it.

They literally made an association with primates to black people. Stop being a "pick me". There ain't prizes for that shit.😂

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#17 daredevils2k
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343 sure know how to make an ugly game, but I bet the people that work there are not ugly hearted people. It most likely was a mistake

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#18 dimebag667
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@hardwenzen: haha, I hear ya. 343 generally owns my ire for how they've held Halo CE hostage for almost a decade. I just expect Ubisoft to make stuff I don't care about, so nothing new.

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#19  Edited By Djoffer123
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I mean, let’s be real here. No way this was either not a honest mistake or something more than the work of one employee trying to be funny/an idiot..regardless even if 343’s CEO/board of directors are members of the KKK ( they aren’t), no way they would allow this as this or course would blow up in their face… yeah so shot happened and they have corrected it, let’s move on…

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#20 Litchie
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lol. I know it might be wrong to lol, but.. lol.

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#21 kuu2
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File under who cares.

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@hardwenzen said:

Precisely the kind of developers that need to release a beta test for something as simple as coop. For the last year, i would go as far as to say that they're worse than Ubisoft. Yes, Ubisoft. I repeat, UBISOFT. Let that sink in.

But still better than Polyphony Digital and Guerilla games. 9/10>>>>>8/10.

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#23  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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@Pedro said:

That is very sloppy but this is 343 Industries we are talking about. Incompetency on all levels.

MS needs to review and restructure them at this point I think.

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#25  Edited By st_monica
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Blizzard, Alex Kipman, and now this: MS studios certainly have all sorts of ethical problems.

I am not necessarily in favor of cancel culture or excessive political correctness, but still, it's embarrassing to see the usual suspects here desperately trying to ignore, downplay or defend such blatant racism by 343i, labeling it as a mere "mistake".

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#26 KvallyX
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@st_monica said:

Blizzard, Alex Kipman, and now this: MS studios certainly have all sorts of ethical problems.

You forgot Sony's game studios, which have extensive ethical problems as well.

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@goldenelementxl said:

Just reading through the Twitter threads, or this ResetEra thread will illustrate how the 343 response doesn't add up/make sense. (One user posts: The palette name isn't even based on the tag name, it is all controlled serverside hence the fix without a patch. So, using the tool as an excuse just doesn't hold up either way.) Why would the tool name be used instead of some default or placeholder title? There is 0% chance it was just some oversight for a Juneteenth nameplate... Or the 343 QA team is really that bad...

That was a really bad mistake, that is for sure. I bet most people don't even know what a Bonobo is, but they will cling to this like flies on shit.

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@x_hedon: I’m not buying that it was a mistake. Somebody at 343 thought they were being funny, and did this as a joke thinking nobody would get it. And if caught, they could just fall back on the, “it’s the name of a toolset we’ve used” excuse. Well if there’s one thing that should never be underestimated, it’s peoples ability to find things to be offended by.

I‘ve seen enough of 343. They need top to bottom changes at this point. It’s been 2 years of bad press and bad looks, for what is supposed to be THE flagship title for the Xbox brand. Enough is enough

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#29 SecretPolice
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lol :P

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@goldenelementxl said:

@x_hedon: I’m not buying that it was a mistake. Somebody at 343 thought they were being funny, and did this as a joke thinking nobody would get it. And if caught, they could just fall back on the, “it’s the name of a toolset we’ve used” excuse. Well if there’s one thing that should never be underestimated, it’s peoples ability to find things to be offended by.

I‘ve seen enough of 343. They need top to bottom changes at this point. It’s been 2 years of bad press and bad looks, for what is supposed to be THE flagship title for the Xbox brand. Enough is enough

Have you praised any of 343s previous inclusion efforts? Or the hundreds of thousands that they have donated to the NAACP? Just curious if you had that same energy?

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#32  Edited By sakaiXx
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This studio is 10/10 rated for handing out free L after L for xbox. What a track record 343i just can't get anything right.

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#33  Edited By Solaryellow
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"In some disgusting news".......

Oh to be perpetually offended.

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@Sagemode87 said:

As a Black person, I have to associate anything primate with Black? Tired of sensitive woke ideologies telling me to be offended. Yeah there's a history there but it doesn't mean every situation has toxicity behind it.

@Solaryellow said:

"In some disgusting news".......

Oh to be perpetually offended.

Triggered ❄️

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#36 Techhog89
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Pfffffttt.... Poontangteenth. Cancel the cancelers. lol :P

Okay, normally I ignore your bullshit, but now you're being straight-up racist. Not cool.

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#37 Chutebox
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Damn hedon, I can sense the tears on your keyboard haha.

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@Chutebox said:

Damn hedon, I can sense the tears on your keyboard haha.

Ah, you were triggered. NICE. Good job.

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#39 SecretPolice
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@techhog89:

No, you are. Stop it.

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@HalcyonScarlet said:
@hardwenzen said:

Precisely the kind of developers that need to release a beta test for something as simple as coop. For the last year, i would go as far as to say that they're worse than Ubisoft. Yes, Ubisoft. I repeat, UBISOFT. Let that sink in.

But still better than Polyphony Digital and Guerilla games. 9/10>>>>>8/10.

An unfinished meme is better than 8/10 games?

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#41  Edited By hardwenzen
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Here we go. Techhog89 comes by, rages a bit and then that's that.

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@st_monica said:

Blizzard, Alex Kipman, and now this: MS studios certainly have all sorts of ethical problems.

I am not necessarily in favor of cancel culture or excessive political correctness, but still, it's embarrassing to see the usual suspects here desperately trying to ignore, downplay or defend such blatant racism by 343i, labeling it as a mere "mistake".

Yawn.

Please stop making a mountain out of a mole hill.

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#43 Fedor
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Typical 343, they always find a way to mess things up.

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#44 Techhog89
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@SecretPolice said:

@techhog89:

No, you are. Stop it.

@hardwenzen said:

Here we go. Techhog89 comes by, rages a bit and then that's that.

Both of you took an IQ test, got a 70, and celebrated because you passed.

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#45 SecretPolice
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@techhog89:

Relax man, you're gonna pop a vain. lol :P

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#46 hardwenzen
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@techhog89 said:
@hardwenzen said:

Here we go. Techhog89 comes by, rages a bit and then that's that.

Both of you took an IQ test, got a 70, and celebrated because you passed.

I got 73. What did you get, sheep?

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#47 Techhog89
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@hardwenzen said:
@techhog89 said:
@hardwenzen said:

Here we go. Techhog89 comes by, rages a bit and then that's that.

Both of you took an IQ test, got a 70, and celebrated because you passed.

I got 73. What did you get, sheep?

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#48  Edited By hardwenzen
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@techhog89 said:
@hardwenzen said:
@techhog89 said:
@hardwenzen said:

Here we go. Techhog89 comes by, rages a bit and then that's that.

Both of you took an IQ test, got a 70, and celebrated because you passed.

I got 73. What did you get, sheep?

I'd use that pic just before Nintendo reveals us the Switch 2. The specs, man, THE SPECS.

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#50  Edited By KvallyX
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@hardwenzen said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:
@hardwenzen said:

Precisely the kind of developers that need to release a beta test for something as simple as coop. For the last year, i would go as far as to say that they're worse than Ubisoft. Yes, Ubisoft. I repeat, UBISOFT. Let that sink in.

But still better than Polyphony Digital and Guerilla games. 9/10>>>>>8/10.

An unfinished meme is better than 8/10 games?

No, TLOU2 is not better than 8/10 games.