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#51 Gaming-Planet
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Different location and time?

Yeah.. okay.

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#52  Edited By R4gn4r0k
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@stereointegrity said:

@killatwill15 said:

@R4gn4r0k said:

@killatwill15 said:

@stereointegrity said:

different day...different time...different lighting....there is no downgrade for this game....sigh

could be rain making the jacket wet,

the backround is misty as thought it were raining,

isn't infamous an open world game with day and night cycles and weather?

No cycles, it will always be misty in the game.

how do you know? the game is out already?

there will be cycles...he is just pulling shit out his ass

Lighten up dude

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#53 killatwill15
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@R4gn4r0k said:

@stereointegrity said:

@killatwill15 said:

@R4gn4r0k said:

@killatwill15 said:

@stereointegrity said:

different day...different time...different lighting....there is no downgrade for this game....sigh

could be rain making the jacket wet,

the backround is misty as thought it were raining,

isn't infamous an open world game with day and night cycles and weather?

No cycles, it will always be misty in the game.

how do you know? the game is out already?

there will be cycles...he is just pulling shit out his ass

Lighten up dude

yeah it looks like stereo got personally offended

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#54  Edited By mems_1224
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Ouch, Titanfall on 360 doesn't even look that bad.

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#55 R4gn4r0k
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@killatwill15 said:

yeah it looks like stereo got personally offended

Perhaps he is one of the devs and is pouring his heart and soul in this game. Than I understand :)

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#56 IamAdorable
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He looks weird in the 2nd picture. Regardless though, I like Infamous. Whether it runs at 720P or 1080P. Just give me my crazy super powers :p

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#58 The_Last_Ride
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There is no proof or statements from any developer. You are basing this of a screenshot that might aswell have been taken with a regular phone. We just have to wait and see for ourselves when it comes out

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#59 killatwill15
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@R4gn4r0k said:

@killatwill15 said:

yeah it looks like stereo got personally offended

Perhaps he is one of the devs and is pouring his heart and soul in this game. Than I understand :)

yeah but the game wont evade any scrutiny,

if it has any faults it deserves to be put on blast,

but even those images and gifs look pretty good so far,

it remains to be seen

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#60 R4gn4r0k
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@killatwill15 said:

yeah but the game wont evade any scrutiny,

if it has any faults it deserves to be put on blast,

but even those images and gifs look pretty good so far,

it remains to be seen

Yup, most of what we've seen so far is looking really good. I especially love the destruction and particle effects.

I'm giving the game the benefit of the doubt, though it could turn out slightly downgraded.

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#61 ShadowDeathX
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Almost all major publishers/developers do this.

--Create a build of game that looks amazing to grab the attention of everyone. You know you got to start the hype train some how.

Ubisoft is the most famous of this but pretty much almost everyone does it.

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#62  Edited By TruthBToldShow
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ROFL!

That second screenshot has been messed with, big time. I see the lack of shadows in recent released footage, however that screenshot is bullshot

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#63 Chutebox
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First image is different place, time of day, etc. Second video is weird there is no shadows.

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#64 CrashNBurn281
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I would not be surprised if this game had some visual downgrades to get performance just right. That being said, it is going to be an amazing title none the less. Also OP, maybe you could cite some sources to actually confirm some of your claims?

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#65 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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Every game is downgraded from its initial showing. Welcome to reality. The problem with some games is that they're downgraded too much

Watch Dogs, Deep Down and Far Cry 3 are very notable examples. You can bet your ass The Division will be downgraded too when it's shown again next.

The comparison in the OP is dumb though cos it's different times of day. But Infamous will be downgraded because they've released nothing but bullshots of it

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Every game is downgraded from its initial showing. Welcome to reality. The problem with some games is that they're downgraded too much

Watch Dogs, Deep Down and Far Cry 3 are very notable examples. You can bet your ass The Division will be downgraded too when it's shown again next.

The comparison in the OP is dumb though cos it's different times of day. But Infamous will be downgraded because they've released nothing but bullshots of it

Eh dude, Deep Down made like a 180 degree turn from those initial shots. It's looking much closer to what they first showed.

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#67 NaveedLife
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As many have said, it is a completely different location, time, and video. This comparison is pretty pointless.

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#68 foxhound_fox
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Okay... and we were actually expecting the final release to match the target render?

Does anyone here even remotely recall the Killzone 2 debacle?

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cows....KILLZONED again, smh.

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#70 k2theswiss
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aweee yaaaa, last of us anyone?

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#71 Ghost120x
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Saw this coming from a mile away. Sony always does this with their so called tech demos ect. I doubt we are going to see anything remotely close to the tech demo from quantic dream.

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#72 Mr-Kutaragi
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This what lems resort to, fake comparison? You guy were already own on your Deep Down claim, now this too.

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#73 Devakie
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There is no downgrade, I have direct feed footage and it looks amazing, was more impressed than the E3 footage.

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@R4gn4r0k said:

@killatwill15 said:

yeah it looks like stereo got personally offended

Perhaps he is one of the devs and is pouring his heart and soul in this game. Than I understand :)

by saying someone is pulling something out his ass makes me sound offended?...good heavens this board takes the interweb so seriously

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Link or BS.

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#76  Edited By deactivated-59b71619573a1
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@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@seanmcloughlin said:

Every game is downgraded from its initial showing. Welcome to reality. The problem with some games is that they're downgraded too much

Watch Dogs, Deep Down and Far Cry 3 are very notable examples. You can bet your ass The Division will be downgraded too when it's shown again next.

The comparison in the OP is dumb though cos it's different times of day. But Infamous will be downgraded because they've released nothing but bullshots of it

Eh dude, Deep Down made like a 180 degree turn from those initial shots. It's looking much closer to what they first showed.

No, it doesn't. It still looks great and much better than I was expecting but it's still nowhere near that CG look of the first showing.

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lol lems are really getting desperate for some ownage attempt

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#78  Edited By millerlight89
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@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@seanmcloughlin said:

Every game is downgraded from its initial showing. Welcome to reality. The problem with some games is that they're downgraded too much

Watch Dogs, Deep Down and Far Cry 3 are very notable examples. You can bet your ass The Division will be downgraded too when it's shown again next.

The comparison in the OP is dumb though cos it's different times of day. But Infamous will be downgraded because they've released nothing but bullshots of it

Eh dude, Deep Down made like a 180 degree turn from those initial shots. It's looking much closer to what they first showed.

No it doesn't lol. Even if it did, does it matter? The games environments will be dull as hell. Just look at the videos.

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#79  Edited By edwardecl
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To me it looks like the lack of shadows on obvious light sources is a bit of an oversight. It's not like it would use much power to cast shadows in an inclosed space like that. If they don't fix that they are stupid fuckers :).

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#80  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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@millerlight89 said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@seanmcloughlin said:

Every game is downgraded from its initial showing. Welcome to reality. The problem with some games is that they're downgraded too much

Watch Dogs, Deep Down and Far Cry 3 are very notable examples. You can bet your ass The Division will be downgraded too when it's shown again next.

The comparison in the OP is dumb though cos it's different times of day. But Infamous will be downgraded because they've released nothing but bullshots of it

Eh dude, Deep Down made like a 180 degree turn from those initial shots. It's looking much closer to what they first showed.

No it doesn't lol. Even if it did, does it matter? The games environments will be dull as hell. Just look at the videos.

It looks aloooooot better, especially the lighting and textures. That voxel cone lighting model they have is really something.

I was one of the games biggest detractors before, but I really believe it might be good especially since the combat is more based on where you hit and enemy than darksouls.

I was expecting dungeons in my dungeon crawler, not sure about you guys.

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@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@millerlight89 said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@seanmcloughlin said:

Every game is downgraded from its initial showing. Welcome to reality. The problem with some games is that they're downgraded too much

Watch Dogs, Deep Down and Far Cry 3 are very notable examples. You can bet your ass The Division will be downgraded too when it's shown again next.

The comparison in the OP is dumb though cos it's different times of day. But Infamous will be downgraded because they've released nothing but bullshots of it

Eh dude, Deep Down made like a 180 degree turn from those initial shots. It's looking much closer to what they first showed.

No it doesn't lol. Even if it did, does it matter? The games environments will be dull as hell. Just look at the videos.

It looks aloooooot better, especially the lighting and textures. That voxel cone lighting model they have is really something.

I was one of the games biggest detractors before, but I really believe it might be good especially since the combat is more based on where you hit and enemy than darksouls.

I was expecting dungeons in my dungeon crawler, not sure about you guys.

It looks the same to me. I wanted dungeons too, but they didn't have to be boring ass grey dungeons. Thats the thing about randomly generated levels. There will be a lot less detail.

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#82 killatwill15
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@stereointegrity said:

@R4gn4r0k said:

@killatwill15 said:

yeah it looks like stereo got personally offended

Perhaps he is one of the devs and is pouring his heart and soul in this game. Than I understand :)

by saying someone is pulling something out his ass makes me sound offended?...good heavens this board takes the interweb so seriously

no it just wasn't an ass pull,

if it reeks of xcock,

than yes its an ass pull

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@millerlight89 said:

It looks the same to me. I wanted dungeons too, but they didn't have to be boring ass grey dungeons. Thats the thing about randomly generated levels. There will be a lot less detail.

with a lot of repetitive looking areas and shitty enemy placement

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@seanmcloughlin said:

@millerlight89 said:

It looks the same to me. I wanted dungeons too, but they didn't have to be boring ass grey dungeons. Thats the thing about randomly generated levels. There will be a lot less detail.

with a lot of repetitive looking areas and shitty enemy placement

Yep. It's just not worth it. People always go nuts over randomly generated crap. I find it to be one of the dumbest ideas ever. Especially in a game like this. So many other ways to prolong the game's life, that do not suck.

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#85 TwistedShade
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Sony knows their fanbase well, so long as it's 1080p cows won't give a crap what visual details are lost all they want to hear is that magic number.

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#86  Edited By princeofshapeir
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Looks more like a product of a compressed YouTube video than anything, but the lack of shadows in the gif is weird. Meh, it's not like a downgrade from E3 footage is much of a surprise from any developer.

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@millerlight89 said:

@seanmcloughlin said:

@millerlight89 said:

It looks the same to me. I wanted dungeons too, but they didn't have to be boring ass grey dungeons. Thats the thing about randomly generated levels. There will be a lot less detail.

with a lot of repetitive looking areas and shitty enemy placement

Yep. It's just not worth it. People always go nuts over randomly generated crap. I find it to be one of the dumbest ideas ever. Especially in a game like this. So many other ways to prolong the game's life, that do not suck.

Yeah I don't get the love for it either. I always come back to the Dark Souls comparison (because it's a similar game). Would that game be good with randomly generated dungeons with random enemies over proper balanced design and enemy placement? hell no

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#88  Edited By millerlight89
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@seanmcloughlin said:

@millerlight89 said:

@seanmcloughlin said:

@millerlight89 said:

It looks the same to me. I wanted dungeons too, but they didn't have to be boring ass grey dungeons. Thats the thing about randomly generated levels. There will be a lot less detail.

with a lot of repetitive looking areas and shitty enemy placement

Yep. It's just not worth it. People always go nuts over randomly generated crap. I find it to be one of the dumbest ideas ever. Especially in a game like this. So many other ways to prolong the game's life, that do not suck.

Yeah I don't get the love for it either. I always come back to the Dark Souls comparison (because it's a similar game). Would that game be good with randomly generated dungeons with random enemies over proper balanced design and enemy placement? hell no

Ah it's nice to have a conversation lol. It got old trolling. (By the way, I never meant any of the shit I said :P) I actually do still watch your vids.

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@seanmcloughlin said:

@millerlight89 said:

It looks the same to me. I wanted dungeons too, but they didn't have to be boring ass grey dungeons. Thats the thing about randomly generated levels. There will be a lot less detail.

with a lot of repetitive looking areas and shitty enemy placement

You somehow think this matters to me when I play path of exile, lol.

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@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@seanmcloughlin said:

@millerlight89 said:

It looks the same to me. I wanted dungeons too, but they didn't have to be boring ass grey dungeons. Thats the thing about randomly generated levels. There will be a lot less detail.

with a lot of repetitive looking areas and shitty enemy placement

You somehow think this matters to me when I play path of exile, lol.

It matters to us, so that's what really matters to us.

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#91 ReadingRainbow4
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@millerlight89 said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@seanmcloughlin said:

@millerlight89 said:

It looks the same to me. I wanted dungeons too, but they didn't have to be boring ass grey dungeons. Thats the thing about randomly generated levels. There will be a lot less detail.

with a lot of repetitive looking areas and shitty enemy placement

You somehow think this matters to me when I play path of exile, lol.

It matters to us, so that's what really matters to us.

Still, I really think you guys are blowing this out of proportion, if the system is based on progression, ala travelling downward. There will definitely be varried area's, if I have to go through some samey looking corridors because it's designed like a maze, that really doesn't bother me.

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I cant believe people don't realize that Sony does this all the time. Even when I chose Ps3 over xbox 360 I knew Sony's game showings where a bunch of lies. They show a very high quality video, then tell the company making the game "Get it as close to this as you can".

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#94  Edited By gago-gago
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Sony's bait and switch tactics is at it again, hoping no one will notice.

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@seanmcloughlin said:

Every game is downgraded from its initial showing. Welcome to reality. The problem with some games is that they're downgraded too much

Watch Dogs, Deep Down and Far Cry 3 are very notable examples. You can bet your ass The Division will be downgraded too when it's shown again next.

The comparison in the OP is dumb though cos it's different times of day. But Infamous will be downgraded because they've released nothing but bullshots of it

The gameplay footage we have seen is bullshots? Even you have admitted the game looks damn good and we have seen it in motion.

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#96  Edited By Shielder7
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@sailor232 said:

I cant believe people don't realize that Sony does this all the time. Even when I chose Ps3 over xbox 360 I knew Sony's game showings where a bunch of lies. They show a very high quality video, then tell the company making the game "Get it as close to this as you can".

I can't believe people believe shit without a link anymore.

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#97 StrongBlackVine
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@sailor232 said:

I cant believe people don't realize that Sony does this all the time. Even when I chose Ps3 over xbox 360 I knew Sony's game showings where a bunch of lies. They show a very high quality video, then tell the company making the game "Get it as close to this as you can".

I'm not aware the history of bullshots, but Forza 5 ranks at the top for this generation so far. Completely downgraded in every possible visually from E3.

Killzone Shadow Fall on the hand was as good or better than previous footage. Ryse was as good or better(I will give Xflop some credit even though Ryse plays at 26fps).

inFAMOUS Second has not been downgraded from any thing I have seen. Not having shadows from all lights source is lame(maybe SP will add it back in after getting feedback), but it otherwise it looks great.

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@millerlight89: it's all good dude don't worry about it ;)

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lol wow you can see the downgrade

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Difference is like night and day... yuk ;-P