IGN proves that PS3 has better exclusives than 360

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

*EDIT*

Burnout ALSO massively outranked Demon Souls, yet another AAA scoring, platform-defining PS3 title. Awe-inspiring, is it not?

SilverChimera

As a third party to this debate, I can tell that you have lost a long time ago. Grasping for straws isn't helping you either.

I wouldn't play any of those games on my PC, so they are 360 exclusive to me.

Microsoft makes games for 360 and PC, and not PS3, So any Microsoft published

or developed game on those lists are still exclusive. Vista/XP is all Microsoft.

This is a 'Top PS3 Games' list. You seriously, in all honestly, don't see the questionable placement of those titles?Verge_6

As I've said before, my list would undoubtedly be different, but that doesn't mean that the list is "bad" or "wrong". You seem to be forgetting that there is no universal opinion when it comes to games.

*Edit: See, even others acknowledge that this list is opinionated.

Sorry mate, IGN sucks, and you can't prove an opinion. enterawesome

but that doesn't mean that the list is "bad" or "wrong". SilverChimera

[QUOTE="SilverChimera"] but that doesn't mean that the list is "bad" or "wrong". Verge_6

Who are you to say it's bad? SilverChimera

Well, according to the header of the list, the goal is; "counting down the Top 25 PlayStation 3 games money can buy. From intense first-person shooters to epic role-playing games and everything in between, our editors will tell you what's most worth your money and why. There are tons of great games for PlayStation 3, but only the best of the best will grace our list." Doesn't sound like they're flaunting objectivity and 'it's our opinion'.

Verge_6

What do you seriously expect a professional site to say? "Hey, come read our opinion" or "These are the best games ever!"?

Why don't you tell me how you think they come up with their list then?

Because it's a Top PS3 Games list, and it put a goddamned AA-scoring multiplat above several AAA PS3 EXCLUSIVES. How the absurdity of this is not apparent makes my jaw drop in amazement.Verge_6

So exclusive > multiplat now?

And you seem to be forgetting that:

• Reviews scores don't matter toward the ranking. Look at Gamespot's 2009 GOTY for example.
• The entries in the list are done by 2 or more editors per entry while reviews are done by 1 person. Don't you think the opinion will change even just a little bit?

Who are you to say it's bad? SilverChimera

[QUOTE="SilverChimera"] What is it's goal? Is it not to share their OPINION of what games THEY feel are the best on the system? Verge_6

Who are you to say it's bad? SilverChimera

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Well, according to the header of the list, the goal is; "counting down the Top 25 PlayStation 3 games money can buy. From intense first-person shooters to epic role-playing games and everything in between, our editors will tell you what's most worth your money and why. There are tons of great games for PlayStation 3, but only the best of the best will grace our list." Doesn't sound like they're flaunting objectivity and 'it's our opinion'.

What do you seriously expect a professional site to say? "Hey, come read our opinion" or "These are the best games ever!"?

Why don't you tell me how you think they come up with their list then?

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

Because it's a Top PS3 Games list, and it put a goddamned AA-scoring multiplat above several AAA PS3 EXCLUSIVES. How the absurdity of this is not apparent makes my jaw drop in amazement.

So exclusive > multiplat now?

And you seem to be forgetting that:

• Reviews scores don't matter toward the ranking. Look at Gamespot's 2009 GOTY for example.
• The entries in the list are done by 2 or more editors per entry while reviews are done by 1 person. Don't you think the opinion will change even just a little bit?

Well, you must know IGN never stays true on their scores. For example, they gave NSMBWii a great score, and later continued to bash it in following articles. Even if they give a game AAA, they won't continue to treat it like that, unless it's really casual, like Call of Duty. enterawesome

Adding to your point: They gave 2 games 10/10 last year but their GOTY was Fallout 3 which got a 9.6/10. Sites don't follow their review scores, like Gamespot's 2009 GOTY. Demon's Souls got 9/10 while a bunch of other games got 9.5.

What do you seriously expect a professional site to say? "Hey, come read our opinion" or "These are the best games ever!"?SilverChimera

So exclusive > multiplat now?SilverChimera

Then isn't like IGN is contradicting themselves? One person is telling you "Oh, hey, this game rocks, AAA!", then you come back, and IGN tells you "This lower scoring is better than the one we rated higher!". It's misleading, and it shows they can't stay true on the scores they give out, furthermore a sign of inconsitancy. Why would anyone use a game site than can't concretely decide how good they think the games are?enterawesome

Yeah, they are, but all sites do that, even Gamespot.

And I agree with you, which is why I don't prefer reviews over top 25 lists or vice versa. I form my own opinions about games and I just watch reviews to see what the game is about and I look at lists to see how it ranks among others.

Higher scoring, platform defining PS3 exclusives > lower scoring multiplats in a list that's meant to define the best PS3 games out there Verge_6

[QUOTE="enterawesome"]Then isn't like IGN is contradicting themselves? One person is telling you "Oh, hey, this game rocks, AAA!", then you come back, and IGN tells you "This lower scoring is better than the one we rated higher!". It's misleading, and it shows they can't stay true on the scores they give out, furthermore a sign of inconsitancy. Why would anyone use a game site than can't concretely decide how good they think the games are?SilverChimera

Yeah, they are, but all sites do that, even Gamespot.

And I agree with you, which is why I don't prefer reviews over top 25 lists or vice versa. I form my own opinions about games and I just watch reviews to see what the game is about and I look at lists to see how it ranks among others.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Higher scoring, platform defining PS3 exclusives > lower scoring multiplats in a list that's meant to define the best PS3 games out there SilverChimera

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Higher scoring, platform defining PS3 exclusives > lower scoring multiplats in a list that's meant to define the best PS3 games out there SilverChimera

[QUOTE="Verge_6"] This as exactly a point I was trying to make, and then you suddenly turn around and agree with someone else who states it? If you were just wanting to be confrontational for the sake of being confrontational, you should have just said so from the get-go.SilverChimera

You repeatedly avoiding logic and common sense is what's priceless. And now you have the gal to decry a widely acclaimed game as not being a platform defining entry for not being popular? Are you one of the IGN reviewers, perchance? But, as was already established, you were just looking for a hoedown. Shame, such a waste of time. :(

Verge_6

[QUOTE="Verge_6"] You repeatedly avoiding logic and common sense is what's priceless. And now you have the gal to decry a widely acclaimed game as not being a platform defining entry for not being popular? Are you one of the IGN reviewers, perchance? But, as was already established, you were just looking for a hoedown. Shame, such a waste of time. :(

SilverChimera

[QUOTE="Bladex2k"]

ps3 owners with a pc gets th ebest of both worlds and we get most of the 360 games for free on pc cuz of piracy :)

pstripl3

Thats nice IGN has an opinion too :)

Imo exclusives wise both consoles are very similar and thankfully a lineup is far more than a few exclusives. Going by metacritic 360 has 802 games and 415 A+ ones. PS3 has 470 games and 282 A+ ones. This means 360 has 133 A+ games over PS3.

1. You can't prove an opinion

2. Not sure if it's been pointed out as I don't feel like reading 100+ posts, but why is Modern Warfare 2 listed for PS3 and not 360, and why is COD4 listed for 360 and not PS3?

Thats nice IGN has an opinion too :)

Imo exclusives wise both consoles are very similar and thankfully a lineup is far more than a few exclusives. Going by metacritic 360 has 802 games and 415 A+ ones. PS3 has 470 games and 282 A+ ones. This means 360 has 133 A+ games over PS3.

PAL360

A damning victory for the Xbox 360.......8)

Now who's passing their opinions off as fact. Seriously, if you're going to debate, you have to be consistent (kind of like list-making). I'm done here, as this has ceased being a source of entertainment and turned into one of depression.Verge_6

It's really a landslide on that site. 360 AAA EXCLUSIVES VS. PS3 AAA EXCLUSIVES FROM IGN.COM: Halo 3 - 9.5 Gears of War 2 - 9.5 Forza 3 - 9.4 GTA: Liberty Stories - 9.2 Splosion Man - 9.0 Dead or Alive 4 - 9.0 Halo 3 ODST - 9.0 Total: 7 Metal Gear Solid 4 - 10 LittleBigPlanet - 9.5 Resistance 2 - 9.5 Uncharted 2 - 9.5 Killzone 2 - 9.4 Ratchet & Clank: Tools of Destruction - 9.4 Demon Souls - 9.4 Ninja Gaiden Sigma - 9.3 Infamous - 9.2 Resistance: Fall of Man - 9.1 Uncharted: Drake's Fortune - 9.1 Ratchet and Clank: A Crack in Time - 9.0 Valkyria Chronicles - 9.0 Wipeout HD - 9.0 Cuboid - 9.0 Fat Princess - 9.0 Flower - 9.0 Folklore - 9.0 The Last Guy - 9.0 Shatter - 9.0 Latest Buzz - 9.0 Total: 21Parasomniac

[QUOTE="Midnightshade29"] And some of us do love the pc.. been a pc gamer since i was a little kid back in the early 1980's with the Apple IIc then 80286 Ibm PC.... with consoles every once in a while(but always, Always had a PC that could play games) I admit some people like playing on the 360 more, but that doesn't make the games that come out on both excluisvie to the 360. It makes them multiplat.... and some games like Risen that I am playing now on the PC.... were just ports to the 360 and are much much better on the PC. Regardless nothing can be proved based on OPINION.. the only fact is that if a game is on 360 and PC its a multiplat. For myself who is a PC and PlayStation gamer.. there really is nothing so great(that interests me) that makes me want to get a 360.xsubtownerx

[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="Midnightshade29"] And some of us do love the pc.. been a pc gamer since i was a little kid back in the early 1980's with the Apple IIc then 80286 Ibm PC.... with consoles every once in a while(but always, Always had a PC that could play games) I admit some people like playing on the 360 more, but that doesn't make the games that come out on both excluisvie to the 360. It makes them multiplat.... and some games like Risen that I am playing now on the PC.... were just ports to the 360 and are much much better on the PC. Regardless nothing can be proved based on OPINION.. the only fact is that if a game is on 360 and PC its a multiplat. For myself who is a PC and PlayStation gamer.. there really is nothing so great(that interests me) that makes me want to get a 360.Rza_rectah

I think it is unanimous that the PS3/Gaming PC combo is the best choice this gen. A good gaming PC negates the bonuses of buying a 360, and you need a PS3 for those awesome exclusives.princeofshapeir

I love this myth that 360 has no real exclusives. Here a few ones that you cant play on PC:

Forza 2
PDZ
GRAW
Halo 3
Gears 2
Halo 3 ODST
Forza 3
GTA Episodes from Liberty City
DOA4
PGR3
Kameo
Banjo Kazooie
Fable 2
Viva Pinata 2
Ace Combat 6
PGR4
Dead Rising
Stoked
Race Pro
Chromehounds
Crackdown
Amped 3
Lost Odyssey
Naruto
Naruto The Broken Bond
Ninja Blade

[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"][QUOTE="xsubtownerx"] I never said they weren't multiplats. All I'm saying is that for me (and I'm sure I'm not the only one), the 360 is great because I don't like gaming on PCs. I don't know why people have a hard time accepting this. And no, I'm not poor.. :Pxsubtownerx

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]I think it is unanimous that the PS3/Gaming PC combo is the best choice this gen. A good gaming PC negates the bonuses of buying a 360, and you need a PS3 for those awesome exclusives.PAL360

I love this myth that 360 has no real exclusives. Here a few ones that you cant play on PC:

Forza 2
PDZ
GRAW
Halo 3
Gears 2
Halo 3 ODST
Forza 3
GTA Episodes from Liberty City
DOA4
PGR3
Kameo
Banjo Kazooie
Fable 2
Viva Pinata 2
Ace Combat 6
PGR4
Dead Rising
Stoked
Race Pro
Chromehounds
Crackdown
Amped 3
Lost Odyssey
Naruto
Naruto The Broken Bond
Ninja Blade

I think it is unanimous that the PS3/Gaming PC combo is the best choice this gen. A good gaming PC negates the bonuses of buying a 360, and you need a PS3 for those awesome exclusives.princeofshapeir

Why would it be? I think PC/360 is the best combo.

My two favorite genres are RPG and FPS and I'm starting to get into RTS. PC dominates when it comes to RTS, WRPG and since I don't really care for JRPG that much, the occasional one that comes along like Star Ocean, Tales of Vesperia are good enough for me. Halo is my favorite FPS franchise, which isn't available on PS3 and I can play it both on PC and Xbox. When friends come over we can have 2v2s split screen on Xbox, or if I feel like playing online I can with Halo PC.

The only reason I own a PS3 is for SOCOM. I never liked MGS with the exception of MGS2, I don't care for Resistance and while Killzone 2 is a great game, I get bored easily with it. TF2 is by far the superior class-based shooter. I already pointed out that I don't care for JRPGs, so all the ones coming out this year for the PS3 don't do anything for me.

There's also good exclusives (omg something not rated a 9 being called good?!?!?) that I have enjoyed far more than a lot of games rated 9 or above. Games like Kameo, Crackdown, Lost Odyssey, etc. Do people not understand this concept of opinion or are people that ignorant and think that whatever reviewers tell us we should play are the only good games?

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]I think it is unanimous that the PS3/Gaming PC combo is the best choice this gen. A good gaming PC negates the bonuses of buying a 360, and you need a PS3 for those awesome exclusives.Rza_rectah

I love this myth that 360 has no real exclusives. Here a few ones that you cant play on PC:

Forza 2
PDZ
GRAW
Halo 3
Gears 2
Halo 3 ODST
Forza 3
GTA Episodes from Liberty City
DOA4
PGR3
Kameo
Banjo Kazooie
Fable 2
Viva Pinata 2
Ace Combat 6
PGR4
Dead Rising
Stoked
Race Pro
Chromehounds
Crackdown
Amped 3
Lost Odyssey
Naruto
Naruto The Broken Bond
Ninja Blade

Of course it has alot more exclusives but i posted just some of the A+ ones. So no, theres not "terrible" exclusives on that list. Only good ones :P

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]I think it is unanimous that the PS3/Gaming PC combo is the best choice this gen. A good gaming PC negates the bonuses of buying a 360, and you need a PS3 for those awesome exclusives.PAL360

I love this myth that 360 has no real exclusives. Here a few ones that you cant play on PC:

Forza 2
PDZ
GRAW
Halo 3
Gears 2
Halo 3 ODST
Forza 3
GTA Episodes from Liberty City
DOA4
PGR3
Kameo
Banjo Kazooie
Fable 2
Viva Pinata 2
Ace Combat 6
PGR4
Dead Rising
Stoked
Race Pro
Chromehounds
Crackdown
Amped 3
Lost Odyssey
Naruto
Naruto The Broken Bond
Ninja Blade

Ninja Blade is on PC.

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]I think it is unanimous that the PS3/Gaming PC combo is the best choice this gen. A good gaming PC negates the bonuses of buying a 360, and you need a PS3 for those awesome exclusives.ThePRAssassin

I love this myth that 360 has no real exclusives. Here a few ones that you cant play on PC:

Forza 2
PDZ
GRAW
Halo 3
Gears 2
Halo 3 ODST
Forza 3
GTA Episodes from Liberty City
DOA4
PGR3
Kameo
Banjo Kazooie
Fable 2
Viva Pinata 2
Ace Combat 6
PGR4
Dead Rising
Stoked
Race Pro
Chromehounds
Crackdown
Amped 3
Lost Odyssey
Naruto
Naruto The Broken Bond
Ninja Blade

Ninja Blade is on PC.

Is it? My bad then

Then isn't like IGN is contradicting themselves? One person is telling you "Oh, hey, this game rocks, AAA!", then you come back, and IGN tells you "This lower scoring is better than the one we rated higher!". It's misleading, and it shows they can't stay true on the scores they give out, furthermore a sign of inconsitancy. Why would anyone use a game site than can't concretely decide how good they think the games are?enterawesome

Yeah, they are, but all sites do that, even Gamespot.

And I agree with you, which is why I don't prefer reviews over top 25 lists or vice versa. I form my own opinions about games and I just watch reviews to see what the game is about and I look at lists to see how it ranks among others.

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]I think it is unanimous that the PS3/Gaming PC combo is the best choice this gen. A good gaming PC negates the bonuses of buying a 360, and you need a PS3 for those awesome exclusives.Rza_rectah

I love this myth that 360 has no real exclusives. Here a few ones that you cant play on PC:

Forza 2
PDZ
GRAW
Halo 3
Gears 2
Halo 3 ODST
Forza 3
GTA Episodes from Liberty City
DOA4
PGR3
Kameo
Banjo Kazooie
Fable 2
Viva Pinata 2
Ace Combat 6
PGR4
Dead Rising
Stoked
Race Pro
Chromehounds
Crackdown
Amped 3
Lost Odyssey
Naruto
Naruto The Broken Bond
Ninja Blade

What games are terrible? I can say the same about lots of PS3 exclusives.

umm... the thing is this list has obviously been made by different team so it's really proves anything. For example : we can say CoD : MW 2 made to PS 3 list but 360 lineup was so superior so it couldn't make it there. Vice versa for CoD : MWnaval

Too bad the fanboys refuse to see this.

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]The "hiding behind the PC" excuse is sooo tired. The 360 and PS3 aint competing with PC. They are competing against each other. In that regard, the 360 has more console exclusives.agesyrh

Either a game is exclusive or isn't.

XBOX360 exclusives>>>>>>PS3 exclusives.The 360 have more and better exclusives.Panosola