if ps3 charged us to play online(for better online experience of course)...

would you pay?

would you pay?

would you pay?

Not likely though is it?

I mean the better service part... the charging part is a dead cert eventually.

Online gaming is the same as xbox Live. There is no 'better experience', unless you're talking about features like live chat and stuff, which i really don't care about.

I go online to play games not gossip rumors or download episodes of Lost.

Why do people keep talking about this? I'm far from being rich, but damn it's only $50 a year. $50 won't even fill up a Honda Civic nowadays. How broke are you people? :|DisPimpin

I hope the government starts charing people 50$ a year for breathing air.

buh buh it's cheap

uh, buh buh it should be free, nobody cares that it's cheap, it's that Microsoft is charging for something that should be free, period.

Nope.

Both are pretty much the same to me, so there's no way in hell i'd pay for PSN when i'm getting all i want from it now.

would you pay?

would you pay?

would you pay?

joopyme

No, they offere free online with quality just like Live. I have no clue what they could offer me that would justify a price tag after I got it for free.

[QUOTE="DisPimpin"]Why do people keep talking about this? I'm far from being rich, but damn it's only $50 a year. $50 won't even fill up a Honda Civic nowadays. How broke are you people? :|angry_fork

I hope the government starts charing people 50$ a year for breathing air.

buh buh it's cheap

uh, buh buh it should be free, nobody cares that it's cheap, it's that Microsoft is charging for something that should be free, period.

[QUOTE="angry_fork"]

[QUOTE="DisPimpin"]Why do people keep talking about this? I'm far from being rich, but damn it's only $50 a year. $50 won't even fill up a Honda Civic nowadays. How broke are you people? :|DisPimpin

I hope the government starts charing people 50$ a year for breathing air.

buh buh it's cheap

uh, buh buh it should be free, nobody cares that it's cheap, it's that Microsoft is charging for something that should be free, period.

Then you play the wrong games.

I play Hardcore S & D on Call of Duty 4, and 90% of the time EVERYONE has mic's, and it's quite annoying.

Um, not if I didnt have to.

If they offered the current PSN for free, but made Premium PSN that was more like Xbox Live... I would keep my current PSN. Xbox Live is better, but I dont think it's 50 bucks better. I know what someone will say, "If you think 50 bucks is alot of money you're in the wrong hobby" but seriously, if I have 50 bucks, I'll just go buy a game... not another gold membership.

Only game that will warrant me spending 50 bucks for Live will be Gears 2.

Then you play the wrong games.

I play Hardcore S & D on Call of Duty 4, and 90% of the time EVERYONE has mic's, and it's quite annoying.

angry_fork

90% of people who play COD4 on PSN have mics? You're really going to say that and not expect anyone to point out that that is absolute fantasy?

[QUOTE="angry_fork"]

Then you play the wrong games.

I play Hardcore S & D on Call of Duty 4, and 90% of the time EVERYONE has mic's, and it's quite annoying.

Ninja-Hippo

90% of people who play COD4 on PSN have mics? You're really going to say that and not expect anyone to point out that that is absolute fantasy?

I'd say more like 20-30% of people have mics. 40% if it's at night... and it's a good night.

[QUOTE="joopyme"]

would you pay?

would you pay?

would you pay?

Javy03

No, they offere free online with quality just like Live. I have no clue what they could offer me that would justify a price tag after I got it for free.

Only someone who has not used Live could actually say that and believe it. I suppose you could also be an insanely blind fanboy as well.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="angry_fork"]

Then you play the wrong games.

I play Hardcore S & D on Call of Duty 4, and 90% of the time EVERYONE has mic's, and it's quite annoying.

carljohnson3456

90% of people who play COD4 on PSN have mics? You're really going to say that and not expect anyone to point out that that is absolute fantasy?

I'd say more like 20-30% of people have mics. 40% if it's at night... and it's a good night.

[QUOTE="angry_fork"]

Then you play the wrong games.

I play Hardcore S & D on Call of Duty 4, and 90% of the time EVERYONE has mic's, and it's quite annoying.

Ninja-Hippo

90% of people who play COD4 on PSN have mics? You're really going to say that and not expect anyone to point out that that is absolute fantasy?

I said in Hardcore S & D, which is way more team-based.

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="angry_fork"]

Then you play the wrong games.

I play Hardcore S & D on Call of Duty 4, and 90% of the time EVERYONE has mic's, and it's quite annoying.

DisPimpin

90% of people who play COD4 on PSN have mics? You're really going to say that and not expect anyone to point out that that is absolute fantasy?

I'd say more like 20-30% of people have mics. 40% if it's at night... and it's a good night.

You should fight your own battles, punk.

It's not my fault you play your multi-plat's on 360, so you don't have a full view of people with mic's on PS3.

[QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="angry_fork"]

Then you play the wrong games.

I play Hardcore S & D on Call of Duty 4, and 90% of the time EVERYONE has mic's, and it's quite annoying.

angry_fork

90% of people who play COD4 on PSN have mics? You're really going to say that and not expect anyone to point out that that is absolute fantasy?

I'd say more like 20-30% of people have mics. 40% if it's at night... and it's a good night.

You should fight your own battles, punk.

It's not my fault you play your multi-plat's on 360, so you don't have a full view of people with mic's on PS3.

[QUOTE="angry_fork"][QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="angry_fork"]

Then you play the wrong games.

I play Hardcore S & D on Call of Duty 4, and 90% of the time EVERYONE has mic's, and it's quite annoying.

DisPimpin

90% of people who play COD4 on PSN have mics? You're really going to say that and not expect anyone to point out that that is absolute fantasy?

I'd say more like 20-30% of people have mics. 40% if it's at night... and it's a good night.

You should fight your own battles, punk.

It's not my fault you play your multi-plat's on 360, so you don't have a full view of people with mic's on PS3.

If I still care when I get home, i'll own you big time with pictures, not only that but I can show you 10 different lobby's within 10 minutes in which 90% of the people have mic's, i'd be willing to bet whatever you wanna bet right now.

[QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="angry_fork"]

Then you play the wrong games.

I play Hardcore S & D on Call of Duty 4, and 90% of the time EVERYONE has mic's, and it's quite annoying.

angry_fork

90% of people who play COD4 on PSN have mics? You're really going to say that and not expect anyone to point out that that is absolute fantasy?

I'd say more like 20-30% of people have mics. 40% if it's at night... and it's a good night.

You should fight your own battles, punk.

It's not my fault you play your multi-plat's on 360, so you don't have a full view of people with mic's on PS3.

I've put almost a week's worth of my life on COD4 PS3 (which is sad in itsself) but seriously, there are more people without mics than there are people with mics.

Seriously, I dont say this as a fact often - but you're wrong.

played warhwak for 6 hours last night not one mess up. i have mic plus 10 other people did out of 24 which is good enough for me. the most important thing for on-line gaming is to be on-line which is great on the psn.

Gotta love a tough guy on the internet. :roll: Anyways, I disregarded your post because it was complete nonsense and not worth responding to. I will even go as far as saying there has probably NEVER been a public lobby for any PSN game in which 90% of the players had mics. Maybe Warhawk, which comes with a mic in the box, but even then half the players downloaded it. That is why for most people unlike your anti-social self XBL is superior and worth the $4 a month, for a much better experience.DisPimpin

I actually like the peace and quiet on the PSN to be honest, lol. I know there are mute options for Live, but I like to know if people are talking smack about me, so I dont look clueless to everyone else.

But seriously, I wouldnt include most people having mics on Xbox Live as one of the reasons it's superior.

i love how you 360 fans say that the reason for more people with mic is because you pay for live wrong it because the 360 came with one the first 2 years of the consoles life. if it didn't there be the same amount of people with mics as the ps 3 period.

stop saying i pay for live and it is better because there is more people with mic.

I've put almost a week's worth of my life on COD4 PS3 (which is sad in itsself) but seriously, there are more people without mics than there are people with mics.

Seriously, I dont say this as a fact often - but you're wrong.

carljohnson3456

I know i'm not wrong because I know what I see, I never play any modes other then hardcore search and destroy, that's all I play and I play COD4 religiously. I can argue that on a 'bad' day, there's maybe 40% of people with mic's.

But on a normal day, there's atleast 70%, and on a good day every person has a mic, minus 1 or 2 people.

So I don't know what modes you play, but I know what I know and COD4 has A LOT of mic users on Hardcore S&D.

Only someone who has not used Live could actually say that and believe it. I suppose you could also be an insanely blind fanboy as well.Khansoul

And about the mics, it mainly has to do with the fact the mainstream of the 360 is the US, therefore they have a common language, and also the fact it came bundled.

I can speak english although my mian language is Spanish... can't say the same for everyone in Spain though. When I play MGO I hear spanish, french, german... do you think that with such diversity of languages it's possible to communicate, even with mics?

Short answer: No

Long answer: Seriously, no.

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

I've put almost a week's worth of my life on COD4 PS3 (which is sad in itsself) but seriously, there are more people without mics than there are people with mics.

Seriously, I dont say this as a fact often - but you're wrong.

angry_fork

I know i'm not wrong because I know what I see, I never play any modes other then hardcore search and destroy, that's all I play and I play COD4 religiously. I can argue that on a 'bad' day, there's maybe 40% of people with mic's.

But on a normal day, there's atleast 70%, and on a good day every person has a mic, minus 1 or 2 people.

So I don't know what modes you play, but I know what I know and COD4 has A LOT of mic users on Hardcore S&D.

I dont play S&D much, mostly just Domination and Team Deathmatch if anything.

Heck, maybe I'm wrong. Who knows. All I know is I've never seen any circumstance when 90% of the people on there had mics... except for this one time when it was my clan (6 of us) versus another clan (6 of them) and we all had mics I think. It made for a rather unenjoyable experince. I'm not a smack talker.

[QUOTE="angry_fork"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

I've put almost a week's worth of my life on COD4 PS3 (which is sad in itsself) but seriously, there are more people without mics than there are people with mics.

Seriously, I dont say this as a fact often - but you're wrong.

carljohnson3456

I know i'm not wrong because I know what I see, I never play any modes other then hardcore search and destroy, that's all I play and I play COD4 religiously. I can argue that on a 'bad' day, there's maybe 40% of people with mic's.

But on a normal day, there's atleast 70%, and on a good day every person has a mic, minus 1 or 2 people.

So I don't know what modes you play, but I know what I know and COD4 has A LOT of mic users on Hardcore S&D.

I dont play S&D much, mostly just Domination and Team Deathmatch if anything.

Heck, maybe I'm wrong. Who knows. All I know is I've never seen any circumstance when 90% of the people on there had mics... except for this one time when it was my clan (6 of us) versus another clan (6 of them) and we all had mics I think. It made for a rather unenjoyable experince. I'm not a smack talker.

Normally I like when there's a lot of mic's, but i HAAATE the people who blast music or have that stupid inteference where it makes a loud screeching noise. That happens like 50% of the time which is really so annoying.

Also the mic's are pretty useless if the people don't use team work, and most people don't use teamwork other then my clan.

Um, not if I didnt have to.

If they offered the current PSN for free, but made Premium PSN that was more like Xbox Live... I would keep my current PSN. Xbox Live is better, but I dont think it's 50 bucks better. I know what someone will say, "If you think 50 bucks is alot of money you're in the wrong hobby" but seriously, if I have 50 bucks, I'll just go buy a game... not another gold membership.

Only game that will warrant me spending 50 bucks for Live will be Gears 2.

carljohnson3456

I agree.

i love how you 360 fans say that the reason for more people with mic is because you pay for live wrong it because the 360 came with one the first 2 years of the consoles life. if it didn't there be the same amount of people with mics as the ps 3 period.

stop saying i pay for live and it is better because there is more people with mic.

GARRYTH

what he said

Online gaming is the same as xbox Live. There is no 'better experience', unless you're talking about features like live chat and stuff, which i really don't care about.

I go online to play games not gossip rumors or download episodes of Lost.

angry_fork

So you must hate the idea of Home then?

[QUOTE="angry_fork"]

Online gaming is the same as xbox Live. There is no 'better experience', unless you're talking about features like live chat and stuff, which i really don't care about.

I go online to play games not gossip rumors or download episodes of Lost.

APOLLOCJD

So you must hate the idea of Home then?

I don't hate it, but it doesn't make PSN miles better then Xbox Live like the rabid cows make people believe.

I'm interested in playing Chess and impersonating Chris Hansen. That's mainly what i'm gonna use Home for.

Despite the fact that I adore XBL, and that I don't have a problem paying those $4/month, I believe voice chat is overrated.

The 99% of things you hear:

- People singing randomly

- People screaming

- People talking nonsense

- People making racist comments

- People meaking bad sexual comments

- People laughing (that's annoying sometimes)

- People insulting other users due their skill level

I actually don't think that good as everybody think.

Despite the fact that I adore XBL, and that I don't have a problem paying those $4/month, I believe voice chat is overrated.

The 99% of things you hear:

- People singing randomly

- People screaming

- People talking nonsense

- People making racist comments

- People meaking bad sexual comments

- People laughing (that's annoying sometimes)

- People insulting other users due their skill level

I actually don't think that good as everybody think.

IronBass

Agreed. When was the last time you heard "Productive talk" between teamates on COD4?

And. I. Absolutely. Hate. People. That. Just. Breathe. Into. Their. Microphone.

Playing Team deathmatch and all I hear is this constant breathing.

I wont pay for 360's online, let alone PS3s.

I wont pay for 360's online, let alone PS3s.

I wont pay for 360's online, let alone PS3s.

Despite the fact that I adore XBL, and that I don't have a problem paying those $4/month, I believe voice chat is overrated.

The 99% of things you hear:

- People singing randomly

- People screaming

- People talking nonsense

- People making racist comments

- People meaking bad sexual comments

- People laughing (that's annoying sometimes)

- People insulting other users due their skill level

I actually don't think that good as everybody think.

IronBass

Despite the fact that I adore XBL, and that I don't have a problem paying those $4/month, I believe voice chat is overrated.

The 99% of things you hear:

- People singing randomly

- People screaming

- People talking nonsense

- People making racist comments

- People meaking bad sexual comments

- People laughing (that's annoying sometimes)

- People insulting other users due their skill level

I actually don't think that good as everybody think.

IronBass

Quick mute makes your post worthless.

[QUOTE="IronBass"]

Despite the fact that I adore XBL, and that I don't have a problem paying those $4/month, I believe voice chat is overrated.

The 99% of things you hear:

- People singing randomly

- People screaming

- People talking nonsense

- People making racist comments

- People meaking bad sexual comments

- People laughing (that's annoying sometimes)

- People insulting other users due their skill level

I actually don't think that good as everybody think.

Teufelhuhn

That's the feauture I use the most :)

[QUOTE="IronBass"]

Despite the fact that I adore XBL, and that I don't have a problem paying those $4/month, I believe voice chat is overrated.

The 99% of things you hear:

- People singing randomly

- People screaming

- People talking nonsense

- People making racist comments

- People meaking bad sexual comments

- People laughing (that's annoying sometimes)

- People insulting other users due their skill level

I actually don't think that good as everybody think.

pakman3000

Quick mute makes your post worthless.

The fact that you connect a mic and then have to mute most people makes the whole feauture worthless.

[QUOTE="Khansoul"]Only someone who has not used Live could actually say that and believe it. I suppose you could also be an insanely blind fanboy as well.blitzcloud

And about the mics, it mainly has to do with the fact the mainstream of the 360 is the US, therefore they have a common language, and also the fact it came bundled.

I can speak english although my mian language is Spanish... can't say the same for everyone in Spain though. When I play MGO I hear spanish, french, german... do you think that with such diversity of languages it's possible to communicate, even with mics?

Short answer: No

Long answer: Seriously, no.

AMEN.

cmon ... Most 360 owners are from the states, so language barriers are almost never a problem for them... but when you think about how diverse the online network of PSN is, you cannot complain that BARELY anyone has a mike.. wow, how wonderful to play GROUND WAR with at least 8people with you talking at the same time...(though it is very nice to do this if you have clan and consistently have a party with you, everytime you play).. what i;m trying to say is... voice chatting is really not that big of a deal for us PS3owners... anyway the socom + headset= $60 is comin(i dunno if theyre sayin that the game is about $50 and the headset $10? or either ways, anyways im buying =b)

well, personally, and thinking about the NOW time, i'd still prefer a FREE network for my online experience.. i bought a friggin game for $60, online experience a plus++++ .. ^^ no offense to you guys who spend you parents money for NOT studyin, and to all the 30+ year old gamers(get a life though, have a kid or somethin man)..

[QUOTE="pakman3000"][QUOTE="IronBass"]

Despite the fact that I adore XBL, and that I don't have a problem paying those $4/month, I believe voice chat is overrated.

The 99% of things you hear:

- People singing randomly

- People screaming

- People talking nonsense

- People making racist comments

- People meaking bad sexual comments

- People laughing (that's annoying sometimes)

- People insulting other users due their skill level

I actually don't think that good as everybody think.

IronBass

Quick mute makes your post worthless.

The fact that you connect a mic and then have to mute most people makes the whole feauture worthless.

The fact that you connect to a game and have to quit because of team killing makes online gaming worthless. See where we can go with this?

I don't play online much. The only reason I play online with the Wii and PS3 is because it is free. I choose not to pay for live for the same reason because I don't play online very much. I don't see the reason to pay for it anymore "I did at one time pay for live".

[QUOTE="IronBass"]

Despite the fact that I adore XBL, and that I don't have a problem paying those $4/month, I believe voice chat is overrated.

The 99% of things you hear:

- People singing randomly

- People screaming

- People talking nonsense

- People making racist comments

- People meaking bad sexual comments

- People laughing (that's annoying sometimes)

- People insulting other users due their skill level

I actually don't think that good as everybody think.

pakman3000

Quick mute makes your post worthless.

[QUOTE="blitzcloud"]

[QUOTE="Khansoul"]Only someone who has not used Live could actually say that and believe it. I suppose you could also be an insanely blind fanboy as well.joopyme

And about the mics, it mainly has to do with the fact the mainstream of the 360 is the US, therefore they have a common language, and also the fact it came bundled.

I can speak english although my mian language is Spanish... can't say the same for everyone in Spain though. When I play MGO I hear spanish, french, german... do you think that with such diversity of languages it's possible to communicate, even with mics?

Short answer: No

Long answer: Seriously, no.

AMEN.

cmon ... Most 360 owners are from the states, so language barriers are almost never a problem for them... but when you think about how diverse the online network of PSN is, you cannot complain that BARELY anyone has a mike.. wow, how wonderful to play GROUND WAR with at least 8people with you talking at the same time...(though it is very nice to do this if you have clan and consistently have a party with you, everytime you play).. what i;m trying to say is... voice chatting is really not that big of a deal for us PS3owners... anyway the socom + headset= $60 is comin(i dunno if theyre sayin that the game is about $50 and the headset $10? or either ways, anyways im buying =b)

well, personally, and thinking about the NOW time, i'd still prefer a FREE network for my online experience.. i bought a friggin game for $60, online experience a plus++++ .. ^^ no offense to you guys who spend you parents money for NOT studyin, and to all the 30+ year old gamers(get a life though, have a kid or somethin man)..

It's not a big deal because Sony never gave you a chance. Their still neglecting the core needs on online gamers. BTW, what's your gamer demographic? The loser high school grad who lives with his parents and will go to the local community college for the next 5 years? No offense to those of you actually on this forum right now.

[QUOTE="IronBass"]

Despite the fact that I adore XBL, and that I don't have a problem paying those $4/month, I believe voice chat is overrated.

The 99% of things you hear:

- People singing randomly

- People screaming

- People talking nonsense

- People making racist comments

- People meaking bad sexual comments

- People laughing (that's annoying sometimes)

- People insulting other users due their skill level

I actually don't think that good as everybody think.

pakman3000

Quick mute makes your post worthless.

Two problems with that is when it bleeds over into your TV "This really upset me". Also you can't mute midgame only at the start.

If this has changed then my bad. I would pay for live again if they had mods. Well I don't play online much my son liked too. Because "some" of the people that play these games I have stopped him. I feel that if I am paying for something then there should be mods to make sure things don't get out of hand. My son does not need to hear someone drop the "N" word every 5 seconds.

Edit: to add some it was not all

That's the feauture I use the most :)

IronBass

which makes it just as good as the ps online because if the chat is what makes 360 live better what is the point of having it if you don't use it. you make it sound like chatting is the most important thing on-line why not just stop playig the game and sit a chat all day.GARRYTH

Are you series? That's chatting coupled with multiplayer gaming! Instead of building the uber crib in Home why not just play the Sims?! LOL