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#1 nintendogamer6
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A few mounths ago when this video came out

http://media.wii.ign.com/media/818/818481/vid_1537697.html

You all said it had to be CGI and that theres no way Wii could do it.....

But now that videos of actual game play are out and it looks even better than the first video, here

Did the CGI turn into a 1st gen Xbox game? Just wondering

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#3 htekemerald
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What happened to graphics dont mater? Anyways thats about equal to Doa.
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#4 nintendogamer6
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What happened to graphics dont mater? Anyways thats about equal to Doa.htekemerald
I never said graphics mattered

I juust think its funny how games can go from CGI to Xbox

And thats Xbox DOA or 360?

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#5 coolguy1111
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Yea i coulda been playing that on my PC 2 years ago, also Conker on the Xbox, looks about equal to that. Thats pretty un impressive in everything but its good animations for the wii.
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#6 Kikouken
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Those graphics are awesome.
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#7 Metroid_Time
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I always knew it was real.... it's not as if the Wii has the power of a SNES.
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#8 coolguy1111
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[QUOTE="htekemerald"]What happened to graphics dont mater? Anyways thats about equal to Doa.nintendogamer6

I never said graphics mattered

I juust think its funny how games can go from CGI to Xbox

And thats Xbox DOA or 360?

Xbox. Thats nothing NEAR the 360.
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#9 Dekuxutu
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What happened to graphics dont mater? Anyways thats about equal to Doa.htekemerald

I remember you claiming the Pokemon Battle Revolution screens in that Pokemon screenshot thread were fake.
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[QUOTE="htekemerald"]What happened to graphics dont mater? Anyways thats about equal to Doa.nintendogamer6

I never said graphics mattered

I juust think its funny how games can go from CGI to Xbox

And thats Xbox DOA or 360?

Seems to  me your saying it has good graphics, which dont matter as you your self have said.  And thats xbox 1 doa.
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So I guess the Wii doesn't have Dreamcast graphics after all.:|
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#12 htekemerald
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[QUOTE="htekemerald"]What happened to graphics dont mater? Anyways thats about equal to Doa.Dekuxutu

I remember you claiming the Pokemon Battle Revolution screens in that Pokemon screenshot thread were fake.

Negative, I new from the start they were real, after cross refrenceing with Doa on xbox.
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[QUOTE="htekemerald"]What happened to graphics dont mater? Anyways thats about equal to Doa.nintendogamer6

I never said graphics mattered

I juust think its funny how games can go from CGI to Xbox

And thats Xbox DOA or 360?

I'd say it's quite a bit more impressive than both considering that friggen ice storm that whale did :o
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#14 nintendogamer6
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OK.... So from fake and CGI to Xbox, gotcha :wink:
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there is nothing going on in this game. its soo bland. no backgrounds or anything. and it doesnt even matter about the graphics, its about how bad the wii's contoller is.
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OK.... So from fake and CGI to Xbox, gotcha :wink:nintendogamer6
No lol apparently now it's WORSE than an xbox 1st gen title lololol. Ohh the irony for it to be first called CGI and now fanboys are saying it looks worse than an xbox title.
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there is nothing going on in this game. its soo bland. no backgrounds or anything. and it doesnt even matter about the graphics, its about how bad the wii's contoller is.Imallvol7
Bad controls?

Selecting an option with a pointer.....

Yea there real unbearable

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#18 mushroomscout89
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Those graphics are awesome.Kikouken
OMG, SOMEONE WITH EYES!
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[QUOTE="Kikouken"]Those graphics are awesome.mushroomscout89
OMG, SOMEONE WITH EYES!

*gasp*
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#21 coolguy1111
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[QUOTE="nintendogamer6"]OK.... So from fake and CGI to Xbox, gotcha :wink:Metroid_Time
No lol apparently now it's WORSE than an xbox 1st gen title lololol. Ohh the irony for it to be first called CGI and now fanboys are saying it looks worse than an xbox title.

Who said it was CGI? The movie isnt anywhere near good enough, look at when the guy uses dig, the ground looks like n64 quality. Everything in that movie is one smooth, solid texture. Show me the wii doing, o idk, a WW2 game looking good? Cause CoD3 makes your eyes bleed.
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#22 palaric8
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ok the wii is more powerful than a last gen console...happy?
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#23 coolguy1111
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Think Crysis wins o be fair ill post a dx9 pic thats an early build :lol:
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#24 coolguy1111
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ok the wii is more powerful than a last gen console...happy?palaric8
Slighty more powerful, and costs alot more.
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#25 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="palaric8"]ok the wii is more powerful than a last gen console...happy?coolguy1111
Slighty more powerful, and costs a lot more.

Sad isn't it?
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[QUOTE="Metroid_Time"][QUOTE="nintendogamer6"]OK.... So from fake and CGI to Xbox, gotcha :wink:coolguy1111
No lol apparently now it's WORSE than an xbox 1st gen title lololol. Ohh the irony for it to be first called CGI and now fanboys are saying it looks worse than an xbox title.

Who said it was CGI? The movie isnt anywhere near good enough, look at when the guy uses dig, the ground looks like n64 quality. Everything in that movie is one smooth, solid texture. Show me the wii doing, o idk, a WW2 game looking good? Cause CoD3 makes your eyes bleed.

If you want to find the thread from when that video was posted back in June by all means, do so
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#27 nintendogamer6
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[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="palaric8"]ok the wii is more powerful than a last gen consolee...happy?smokeydabear076
Slighty more powerful, and costs a lot more.

Sad isn't it?

I like how you think the graphics are the only thing that make a console cost money
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Think Crysis wins o be fair ill post a dx9 pic thats an early build :lol:coolguy1111
um ok

I don't really care, its ot like its gonna be any more fun  than Gears of Farcry

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#29 coolguy1111
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="palaric8"]ok the wii is more powerful than a last gen consolee...happy?nintendogamer6
Slighty more powerful, and costs a lot more.

Sad isn't it?

I like how you think the graphics are the only thing that make a console cost money

So you dont mind paying atleast 50$ over the real cost of it? This should be 200$ at least, if not 150$.
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#30 HelloJon
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there is nothing going on in this game. its soo bland. no backgrounds or anything. and it doesnt even matter about the graphics, its about how bad the wii's contoller is.Imallvol7
You sir are incompetant.
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#31 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="palaric8"]ok the wii is more powerful than a last gen consolee...happy?nintendogamer6
Slighty more powerful, and costs a lot more.

Sad isn't it?

I like how you think the graphics are the only thing that make a console cost money

I like it how you use the lowest form of intelligence too much.
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[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="Metroid_Time"][QUOTE="nintendogamer6"]OK.... So from fake and CGI to Xbox, gotcha :wink:nintendogamer6
No lol apparently now it's WORSE than an xbox 1st gen title lololol. Ohh the irony for it to be first called CGI and now fanboys are saying it looks worse than an xbox title.

Who said it was CGI? The movie isnt anywhere near good enough, look at when the guy uses dig, the ground looks like n64 quality. Everything in that movie is one smooth, solid texture. Show me the wii doing, o idk, a WW2 game looking good? Cause CoD3 makes your eyes bleed.

If you want to find the thread from when that video was posted back in June by all means, do so

Still doesnt change the fact both vids look bad and have flat, undetailed textures that are one solid color. And when the digg, the dirt looks like ASS.
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[QUOTE="nintendogamer6"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="palaric8"]ok the wii is more powerful than a last gen consolee...happy?coolguy1111
Slighty more powerful, and costs a lot more.

Sad isn't it?

I like how you think the graphics are the only thing that make a console cost money

So you dont mind paying atleast 50$ over the real cost of it? This should be 200$ at least, if not 150$.

Well considering it includes a game thats worth

30$ + , I think it has a great vaule

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#34 nintendogamer6
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[QUOTE="nintendogamer6"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="palaric8"]ok the wii is more powerful than a last gen consolee...happy?smokeydabear076
Slighty more powerful, and costs a lot more.

Sad isn't it?

I like how you think the graphics are the only thing that make a console cost money

I like it how you use the lowest form of intelligence too much.

how so?
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[QUOTE="coolguy1111"]Think Crysis wins o be fair ill post a dx9 pic thats an early build :lol:nintendogamer6

um ok

I don't really care, its ot like its gonna be any more fun than Gears of Farcry

GeOW and Far Cry are totally different. And this will be soooo different then Pokemon blue, red, yellow, silver, gold, torquise, orange, purple, firey red, oreange orange, and black.
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[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="nintendogamer6"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="palaric8"]ok the wii is more powerful than a last gen consolee...happy?nintendogamer6

Slighty more powerful, and costs a lot more.

Sad isn't it?

I like how you think the graphics are the only thing that make a console cost money

So you dont mind paying atleast 50$ over the real cost of it? This should be 200$ at least, if not 150$.

Well considering it includes a game thats worth

30$ + , I think it has a great vaule

Wiisports is not a 20$ game let alone a 30$ game. Thats a month to make for a college student. Wiisports is a free game. So its really +10$ at most.
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[QUOTE="nintendogamer6"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="Metroid_Time"][QUOTE="nintendogamer6"]OK.... So from fake and CGI to Xbox, gotcha :wink:coolguy1111
No lol apparently now it's WORSE than an xbox 1st gen title lololol. Ohh the irony for it to be first called CGI and now fanboys are saying it looks worse than an xbox title.

Who said it was CGI? The movie isnt anywhere near good enough, look at when the guy uses dig, the ground looks like n64 quality. Everything in that movie is one smooth, solid texture. Show me the wii doing, o idk, a WW2 game looking good? Cause CoD3 makes your eyes bleed.

If you want to find the thread from when that video was posted back in June by all means, do so

Still doesnt change the fact both vids look bad and have flat, undetailed textures that are one solid color. And when the digg, the dirt looks like ASS.

Say what you want

I personally don't care about the graphics

I just wondered what every one thought of the game after it was proven game play

which back then seemed impossible

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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="nintendogamer6"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="palaric8"]ok the wii is more powerful than a last gen consolee...happy?nintendogamer6
Slighty more powerful, and costs a lot more.

Sad isn't it?

I like how you think the graphics are the only thing that make a console cost money

I like it how you use the lowest form of intelligence too much.

how so?

"Cost of hardware isnt the only way to price hardware" What?? Sheep :roll:
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="nintendogamer6"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="palaric8"]ok the wii is more powerful than a last gen consolee...happy?nintendogamer6
Slighty more powerful, and costs a lot more.

Sad isn't it?

I like how you think the graphics are the only thing that make a console cost money

I like it how you use the lowest form of intelligence too much.

how so?

You are assuming that I believe that graphics are the only thing that determine the price of a console. Assumption just so happens to be the lowest form of intelligence.
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[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="nintendogamer6"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="Metroid_Time"][QUOTE="nintendogamer6"]OK.... So from fake and CGI to Xbox, gotcha :wink:nintendogamer6

No lol apparently now it's WORSE than an xbox 1st gen title lololol. Ohh the irony for it to be first called CGI and now fanboys are saying it looks worse than an xbox title.

Who said it was CGI? The movie isnt anywhere near good enough, look at when the guy uses dig, the ground looks like n64 quality. Everything in that movie is one smooth, solid texture. Show me the wii doing, o idk, a WW2 game looking good? Cause CoD3 makes your eyes bleed.

If you want to find the thread from when that video was posted back in June by all means, do so

Still doesnt change the fact both vids look bad and have flat, undetailed textures that are one solid color. And when the digg, the dirt looks like ASS.

Say what you want

I personally don't care about the graphics

I just wondered what every one thought of the game after it was proven game play

which back then seemed impossible

I care about graphics, because i care about a quality, complete game. I dont want Mario, Zelda, and Mario racing for the hundreth time with no graphical improvment. I care that my games are well made, apparently you dont.
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[QUOTE="nintendogamer6"]

[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="nintendogamer6"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="palaric8"]ok the wii is more powerful than a last gen consolee...happy?coolguy1111

Slighty more powerful, and costs a lot more.

Sad isn't it?

I like how you think the graphics are the only thing that make a console cost money

So you dont mind paying atleast 50$ over the real cost of it? This should be 200$ at least, if not 150$.

Well considering it includes a game thats worth

30$ , I think it has a great vaule

Wiisports is not a 20$ game let alone a 30$ game. Thats a month to make for a college student. Wiisports is a free game. So its really 10$ at most.

you are so confident of that

even though you have never played it

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#42 nintendogamer6
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[QUOTE="nintendogamer6"]

[QUOTE="coolguy1111"]Think Crysis wins o be fair ill post a dx9 pic thats an early build :lol:coolguy1111

um ok

I don't really care, its ot like its gonna be any more fun than Gears of Farcry

GeOW and Far Cry are totally different. And this will be soooo different then Pokemon blue, red, yellow, silver, gold, torquise, orange, purple, firey red, oreange orange, and black.

I don't even understand why you posted a pic of Crysis

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[QUOTE="nintendogamer6"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="nintendogamer6"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="palaric8"]ok the wii is more powerful than a last gen consolee...happy?smokeydabear076
Slighty more powerful, and costs a lot more.

Sad isn't it?

I like how you think the graphics are the only thing that make a console cost money

I like it how you use the lowest form of intelligence too much.

how so?

You are assuming that I believe that graphics are the only thing that determine the price of a console. Assumption just so happens to be the lowest form of intelligence.

What am I spouse to assume

im not a fortune teller

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#44 nintendogamer6
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[QUOTE="nintendogamer6"]

[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="nintendogamer6"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="Metroid_Time"][QUOTE="nintendogamer6"]OK.... So from fake and CGI to Xbox, gotcha :wink:coolguy1111

No lol apparently now it's WORSE than an xbox 1st gen title lololol. Ohh the irony for it to be first called CGI and now fanboys are saying it looks worse than an xbox title.

Who said it was CGI? The movie isnt anywhere near good enough, look at when the guy uses dig, the ground looks like n64 quality. Everything in that movie is one smooth, solid texture. Show me the wii doing, o idk, a WW2 game looking good? Cause CoD3 makes your eyes bleed.

If you want to find the thread from when that video was posted back in June by all means, do so

Still doesnt change the fact both vids look bad and have flat, undetailed textures that are one solid color. And when the digg, the dirt looks like ASS.

Say what you want

I personally don't care about the graphics

I just wondered what every one thought of the game after it was proven game play

which back then seemed impossible

I care about graphics, because i care about a quality, complete game. I dont want Mario, Zelda, and Mario racing for the hundreth time with no graphical improvment. I care that my games are well made, apparently you dont.

Mario Galaxy looks alot better than the last Mario

and you can say the same for Zelda

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#45 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="nintendogamer6"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="nintendogamer6"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="palaric8"]ok the wii is more powerful than a last gen consolee...happy?nintendogamer6

Slighty more powerful, and costs a lot more.

Sad isn't it?

I like how you think the graphics are the only thing that make a console cost money

I like it how you use the lowest form of intelligence too much.

how so?

You are assuming that I believe that graphics are the only thing that determine the price of a console. Assumption just so happens to be the lowest form of intelligence.

What am I spouse to assume

im not a fortune teller

You are not supposed to assume anything, you are not even supposed to reply.
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#46 coolguy1111
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[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="nintendogamer6"]

[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="nintendogamer6"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="palaric8"]ok the wii is more powerful than a last gen consolee...happy?nintendogamer6

Slighty more powerful, and costs a lot more.

Sad isn't it?

I like how you think the graphics are the only thing that make a console cost money

So you dont mind paying atleast 50$ over the real cost of it? This should be 200$ at least, if not 150$.

Well considering it includes a game thats worth

30$ , I think it has a great vaule

Wiisports is not a 20$ game let alone a 30$ game. Thats a month to make for a college student. Wiisports is a free game. So its really 10$ at most.

you are so confident of that

even though you have never played it

really? I guess if you say i never have,,, ive played the baseball for a few minutes, its a boring game thats not worth money.
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#47 palaric8
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[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="nintendogamer6"]

[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="nintendogamer6"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="Metroid_Time"][QUOTE="nintendogamer6"]OK.... So from fake and CGI to Xbox, gotcha :wink:nintendogamer6

No lol apparently now it's WORSE than an xbox 1st gen title lololol. Ohh the irony for it to be first called CGI and now fanboys are saying it looks worse than an xbox title.

Who said it was CGI? The movie isnt anywhere near good enough, look at when the guy uses dig, the ground looks like n64 quality. Everything in that movie is one smooth, solid texture. Show me the wii doing, o idk, a WW2 game looking good? Cause CoD3 makes your eyes bleed.

If you want to find the thread from when that video was posted back in June by all means, do so

Still doesnt change the fact both vids look bad and have flat, undetailed textures that are one solid color. And when the digg, the dirt looks like ASS.

Say what you want

I personally don't care about the graphics

I just wondered what every one thought of the game after it was proven game play

which back then seemed impossible

I care about graphics, because i care about a quality, complete game. I dont want Mario, Zelda, and Mario racing for the hundreth time with no graphical improvment. I care that my games are well made, apparently you dont.

Mario Galaxy looks alot better than the last Mario

and you can say the same for Zelda

the one's in the your sig are the wii versions right?
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#48 Pangster007
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lol, i like how how all the wii haters have dodged the original question completely. Wii haters claimed that the video footage was all cgi and that the wii wasn't capable of it. Now that the game's been released and it looks just as good...what do they have to say about that?
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#49 nintendogamer6
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[QUOTE="nintendogamer6"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="nintendogamer6"]

[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="nintendogamer6"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="palaric8"]ok the wii is more powerful than a last gen consolee...happy?coolguy1111

Slighty more powerful, and costs a lot more.

Sad isn't it?

I like how you think the graphics are the only thing that make a console cost money

So you dont mind paying atleast 50$ over the real cost of it? This should be 200$ at least, if not 150$.

Well considering it includes a game thats worth

30$ , I think it has a great vaule

Wiisports is not a 20$ game let alone a 30$ game. Thats a month to make for a college student. Wiisports is a free game. So its really 10$ at most.

you are so confident of that

even though you have never played it

really? I guess if you say i never have,,, ive played the baseball for a few minutes, its a boring game thats not worth money.

from playing baseball for a couple minuts

You can judge the value of the game?

Wii sport has 5 different games, all with multi-player and a leveling system

It also has a training mode with 3 mini games of each sport were you can score from a Bronze metal to Gold

There also the fitness tests, which tells you your fitness age (just like brain age) and it emails your Wii every time a record is broken

IMO Worth 30+

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#50 nintendogamer6
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[QUOTE="nintendogamer6"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="nintendogamer6"]

[QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="nintendogamer6"][QUOTE="coolguy1111"][QUOTE="Metroid_Time"][QUOTE="nintendogamer6"]OK.... So from fake and CGI to Xbox, gotcha :wink:palaric8

No lol apparently now it's WORSE than an xbox 1st gen title lololol. Ohh the irony for it to be first called CGI and now fanboys are saying it looks worse than an xbox title.

Who said it was CGI? The movie isnt anywhere near good enough, look at when the guy uses dig, the ground looks like n64 quality. Everything in that movie is one smooth, solid texture. Show me the wii doing, o idk, a WW2 game looking good? Cause CoD3 makes your eyes bleed.

If you want to find the thread from when that video was posted back in June by all means, do so

Still doesnt change the fact both vids look bad and have flat, undetailed textures that are one solid color. And when the digg, the dirt looks like ASS.

Say what you want

I personally don't care about the graphics

I just wondered what every one thought of the game after it was proven game play

which back then seemed impossible

I care about graphics, because i care about a quality, complete game. I dont want Mario, Zelda, and Mario racing for the hundreth time with no graphical improvment. I care that my games are well made, apparently you dont.

Mario Galaxy looks alot better than the last Mario

and you can say the same for Zelda

the one's in the your sig are the wii versions right?

LOL yep, or at lest you would think so from the way some people discride the Wii :lol:
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