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#1 HaloinventedFPS
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Since consoles are seven years old, they simply can't compete with a PC, but not to fear, in 3 easy steps ill show you how to make Next gen cinematic visuals!

Step 1

How does the game actually look? well bad of course, as expected from a seven year old console

Step 2

Add heaps of bloom, since consoles can't handle actual good lighting, when in doubt, Bloom out!

Step 3

Still Not next gen enough, console gamers might actually notice the bad textures, we can't have that now can we?

So, add a blue filter! now they won't ever notice the bad graphics! and if anyone questions you about the blue filter, claim it's for the "cineamtic" art style

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#2 freedomfreak
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Halo 4 looks awesome.
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#3 HaloinventedFPS
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And before anyone claims this isn't true, many of the "best" looking console games have color filters, for some reason a lot of them blue.

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#4 el3m2tigre
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The 1st ss looks better than the 3rd.

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#5 lundy86_4
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Halo 4 looks awesome.freedomfreak

I know. It's hilarious that the TC actually chose such a good looking game.

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#6 HaloinventedFPS
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]Halo 4 looks awesome.lundy86_4

I know. It's hilarious that the TC actually chose such a good looking game.

Except you know, the mountain in the background is 2D, did you actually play the game?

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#7 TrueAmerican007
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You should be grateful that Halo invented FPS.
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#8 lundy86_4
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Except you know, the mountain in the background is 2D, did you actually play the game?

HaloinventedFPS

Yep. Completed the campaign on Legendary, and am currently on a co-op Legendary run with my brother. As well as diving into the MP. I'm probably at around 20 hours in the game, amongst all aspects.

So good graphics means you need to fully render a background in 3D... Even though it isn't being utilized for the actual level?

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#9 freedomfreak
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]Halo 4 looks awesome.HaloinventedFPS

I know. It's hilarious that the TC actually chose such a good looking game.

Except you know, the mountain in the background is 2D, did you actually play the game?

Tons of games use that 2D background. It's nothing new.
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#10 FPSfan1985
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And before anyone claims this isn't true, many of the "best" looking console games have color filters, for some reason a lot of them blue.

HaloinventedFPS
Many of the best looking games in general have color grading. In fact damn near every vision media uses some kind of color grading.
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#11 HaloinventedFPS
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[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

And before anyone claims this isn't true, many of the "best" looking console games have color filters, for some reason a lot of them blue.

FPSfan1985

Many of the best looking games in general have color grading. In fact damn near every vision media uses some kind of color grading.

color filters in video games are recent.

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#12 clyde46
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[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"][QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

And before anyone claims this isn't true, many of the "best" looking console games have color filters, for some reason a lot of them blue.

HaloinventedFPS

Many of the best looking games in general have color grading. In fact damn near every vision media uses some kind of color grading.

color filters in video games are recent.

And a pain in the butt. I hate them.
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#13 FPSfan1985
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[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"][QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

And before anyone claims this isn't true, many of the "best" looking console games have color filters, for some reason a lot of them blue.

HaloinventedFPS

Many of the best looking games in general have color grading. In fact damn near every vision media uses some kind of color grading.

color filters in video games are recent.

Yea because consoles finally have enough power to do post processes in real time. Color grading is a good thing. Just like every other post process. I love me some depth of field, or fxaa.

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#14 clyde46
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[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"] Many of the best looking games in general have color grading. In fact damn near every vision media uses some kind of color grading.FPSfan1985

color filters in video games are recent.

Yea because consoles finally have enough power to do post processes in real time. Color grading is a good thing.

Only when its used to make things seem natural.
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#15 yellonet
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Halo 4 looks awesome.freedomfreak
Low standards?

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#16 FPSfan1985
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[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"][QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

color filters in video games are recent.

clyde46
Yea because consoles finally have enough power to do post processes in real time. Color grading is a good thing.

Only when its used to make things seem natural.

Depends completely on the original art style of the game. If the game is already shooting for a ultra fantastic look and feel, some type of over the top color grading could be a huge benefit.
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]Halo 4 looks awesome.HaloinventedFPS

I know. It's hilarious that the TC actually chose such a good looking game.

Except you know, the mountain in the background is 2D, did you actually play the game?

Yes, I was focused on the 2d mountains in the background the whole time and commenting on how it was ruining my gaming experiance.

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#18 freedomfreak
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]Halo 4 looks awesome.yellonet

Low standards?

Not really, no. It looks awesome.
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#19 HaloinventedFPS
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[QUOTE="yellonet"]

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]Halo 4 looks awesome.freedomfreak

Low standards?

Not really, no. It looks awesome.

in 2005 maybe

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#20 PAL360
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Hmmm...the first pic is the best looking one :P

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#21 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="yellonet"]Low standards?

HaloinventedFPS

Not really, no. It looks awesome.

in 2005 maybe

Kk, this trolling has gone severely downhill.

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#22 El_Garbanzo
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First step is to make sure it's not a nintendo console

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#23 PAL360
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]Halo 4 looks awesome.yellonet

Low standards?

Are you saying that every reviewer have low standards?

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#24 freedomfreak
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="yellonet"]Low standards?

HaloinventedFPS

Not really, no. It looks awesome.

in 2005 maybe

What a lame response.
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#25 HaloinventedFPS
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[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"] Not really, no. It looks awesome.lundy86_4

in 2005 maybe

Kk, this trolling has gone severely downhill.

Halo 4 looks good in the cutscenes ill admit, but in game? Nah, it looks pretty mediocre.

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#26 moistsandwich
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[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

Except you know, the mountain in the background is 2D, did you actually play the game?

lundy86_4

Yep. Completed the campaign on Legendary, and am currently on a co-op Legendary run with my brother. As well as diving into the MP. I'm probably at around 20 hours in the game, amongst all aspects.

So good graphics means you need to fully render a background in 3D... Even though it isn't being utilized for the actual level?

Of course.... haven't you played GT5?.... oh.... wait.

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#27 FPSfan1985
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

in 2005 maybe

HaloinventedFPS

Kk, this trolling has gone severely downhill.

Halo 4 looks good in the cutscenes ill admit, but in game? Nah, it looks pretty mediocre.

That could be said for every console game. But when compared to other console games. Halo 4 does in fact look damn good.
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#28 Gue1
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Halo 4 looks awesome.freedomfreak

No it doesn't.

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#29 HaloinventedFPS
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[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Kk, this trolling has gone severely downhill.

FPSfan1985

Halo 4 looks good in the cutscenes ill admit, but in game? Nah, it looks pretty mediocre.

That could be said for every console game. But when compared to other console games. Halo 4 does in fact look damn good.

indeed, but im comparing it to PC games

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#30 MK-Professor
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[QUOTE="yellonet"]

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]Halo 4 looks awesome.freedomfreak

Low standards?

Not really, no. It looks awesome.

maybe for xbox standards

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#31 freedomfreak
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="yellonet"]Low standards?

MK-Professor

Not really, no. It looks awesome.

maybe for xbox standards

Console standards.
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#32 PAL360
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]Halo 4 looks awesome.Gue1

No it doesn't.

It's just one of the best looking console games.

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#33 freedomfreak
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]Halo 4 looks awesome.Gue1

No it doesn't.

Yes, it does.
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#34 FPSfan1985
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[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"][QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

Halo 4 looks good in the cutscenes ill admit, but in game? Nah, it looks pretty mediocre.

HaloinventedFPS

That could be said for every console game. But when compared to other console games. Halo 4 does in fact look damn good.

indeed, but im comparing it to PC games

Which is pointless. My GPU alone costs more than a 360. It better have better graphics.
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#35 PCgameruk
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Its lighting that keeps console games looking better. Crysis 2 had good lighting but the textures were PS2 level.

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#36 amaneuvering
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The game does actually look very good in real life but I've noticed that I invariably think these games look better before they add the stupid colour filter.

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#37 PC_Otter
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And before anyone claims this isn't true, many of the "best" looking console games have color filters, for some reason a lot of them blue.

HaloinventedFPS
Blue is "in" when it comes to color filters for futuristic settings in games and movies (and it's annoying too). I think Halo 4 actually looks and runs quite nicely, especially for 7 year old hardware.
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#38 MK-Professor
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[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"] That could be said for every console game. But when compared to other console games. Halo 4 does in fact look damn good.FPSfan1985

indeed, but im comparing it to PC games

Which is pointless. My GPU alone costs more than a 360. It better have better graphics.

all it takes is a $50 GPU to beat console graphics.

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#39 SamiRDuran
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[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"][QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

indeed, but im comparing it to PC games

MK-Professor

Which is pointless. My GPU alone costs more than a 360. It better have better graphics.

all it takes is a $50 GPU to beat console graphics.

yeah but you have a $40 gpu in your pc.
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#40 el3m2tigre
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[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"][QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

indeed, but im comparing it to PC games

MK-Professor

Which is pointless. My GPU alone costs more than a 360. It better have better graphics.

all it takes is a $50 GPU to beat console graphics.

Get real...

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#41 MK-Professor
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[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"] Which is pointless. My GPU alone costs more than a 360. It better have better graphics.el3m2tigre

all it takes is a $50 GPU to beat console graphics.

Get real...

i am real. how much to you think a GPU equivalent to a 8800GTX(from 2006 than completely destroyed console) in performance cost? no more than $50 that is for sure.

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#42 ShadowMoses900
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There are plenty of great looking games on consoles, call me crazy but I find people on here tend to overexaggerate PC graphics BIG time.

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#43 lostrib
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There are plenty of great looking games on consoles, call me crazy but I find people on here tend to overexaggerate PC graphics BIG time.

ShadowMoses900

That's probably because you have a crappy PC

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#44 FPSfan1985
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[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"][QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

indeed, but im comparing it to PC games

MK-Professor

Which is pointless. My GPU alone costs more than a 360. It better have better graphics.

all it takes is a $50 GPU to beat console graphics.

Never said anything different. But you don't game on PC to play games at the bare minimum. It's pointless to compare static hardware to hardware that can be upgraded.
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#45 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

There are plenty of great looking games on consoles, call me crazy but I find people on here tend to overexaggerate PC graphics BIG time.

lostrib

That's probably because you have a crappy PC

No, I have played plenty of games on my friends super rig including Skyrim, MW3, Witcher 2 and more. I only noticed a slighly better performance at best.

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#46 lundy86_4
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No, I have played plenty of games on my friends super rig including Skyrim, MW3, Witcher 2 and more. I only noticed a slighly better performance at best.

ShadowMoses900

Is this the same friend, where you played Halo 4 on his 360, with all them QTEs? :lol:

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#47 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

No, I have played plenty of games on my friends super rig including Skyrim, MW3, Witcher 2 and more. I only noticed a slighly better performance at best.

lundy86_4

Is this the same friend, where you played Halo 4 on his 360, with all them QTEs? :lol:

No this is a real friend.

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#48 PublicNuisance
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

There are plenty of great looking games on consoles, call me crazy but I find people on here tend to overexaggerate PC graphics BIG time.

ShadowMoses900

That's probably because you have a crappy PC

No, I have played plenty of games on my friends super rig including Skyrim, MW3, Witcher 2 and more. I only noticed a slighly better performance at best.

That's normal man. When your eyes are used to seeing subpar visuals on consoles then they are forever ruined. It's a scientific fact that staring at images for many years of console quality will make you unable to see greatness when it is in front of you. For us of the master race, when I see console quality visuals I get sick to my stomach and then vomit.

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#49 greensand24
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Halo 4 looks fantastic man and you're here talking about 2d backgrounds? Lol and then you wonder why some pc enthusiasts are labeled elitist pricks.
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#50 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

No, I have played plenty of games on my friends super rig including Skyrim, MW3, Witcher 2 and more. I only noticed a slighly better performance at best.

ShadowMoses900

Is this the same friend, where you played Halo 4 on his 360, with all them QTEs? :lol:

No this is a real friend.

Oh, we totally believe you :lol: