How powerful is the PS5 going to be?

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Poll How powerful is the PS5 going to be? (92 votes)

Space is the limit. First consumer quantum device. Kutaragi spirit lives! 12%
Above RTX 2080Ti. Supercharged PC is back! 2%
RTX 2080Ti'sh. Sony keeps winning. 4%
~RTX 2080 . A good generational jump from the XBX! 3%
~GTX 1080ti. Plenty of power, some advanges compared but some disadvantages too. 23%
~GTX 1080. RX Vega 64 - like seems like a good candidate. 24%
RX Vega 56 - Same power profile compared to PC when the PS4 launched. 13%
980ti/Fury - An step above the XBX. 9%
GTX 1060/580. The XBX is next gen, now! 4%
RTX 480. The PS4Pro is next gen enough! 5%

Time to bet, guys and gals!

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#1 MonsieurX
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| | that powerful

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#2  Edited By BassMan
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I can say with certainty that it will be shit compared to what will be available on PC when it launches.

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#3 Ant_17
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Not much, since hardware took a huge price hike and now no one will sell at a loss.

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#4 uninspiredcup
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A dam good blueray player.

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#5 loco145
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@uninspiredcup said:

A dam good blueray player.

But the XBone S is already a better BR than the PS4Pro!

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#6 svaubel
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Couldn't care less the hardware specs. Long as it has games. Counting pixels and MHz is what my PC is for.

Look at the Switch. It's tablet hardware but it has become one of my favorite systems ever. The PS4 has much better hardware than it, and outside of 4 games it's been the most pointless console I've ever owned so... hardware doesn't make or break the system for me.

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#7 General_Solo76
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More powerful than a locomotive, able to leap tall buildings in a single bound

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#8  Edited By deactivated-5d78760d7d740
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I'm guessing a GTX 1080 equivalent is the upper limit. You can pick one up for ~$500 these days. A year or two down the line (PS5 release) it'll be cheaper, Sony will be buying a modified version in bulk so that's another way it'll be even cheaper.

Of course they'll be using AMD, possibly with new features unique to their card, so the architecture won't be like GTX 1080. I'm excited to see how the games turn out. The Last of Us 2 looks mind blowingly good and that's on PS4 Pro!

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@XVision84: they had a few regular 1080s on sale for 450 recently. The cost is coming down hard from the bananas period we has recently

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#10  Edited By Telekill
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A bit of a leap over the Pro with a 2TB HDD, 4K HDR and PS4/VR backwards compatibility.

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#11 Archangel3371
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Plot twist, it’ll be less powerful then the Xbox One X because it’ll be a console/handheld hybrid. :P

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#12 loco145
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@xantufrog: That was pre Turing hype. When the 2080 was revealed to be roughly on par, prices went up again.

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#13 deactivated-5d78760d7d740
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@xantufrog said:

@XVision84: they had a few regular 1080s on sale for 450 recently. The cost is coming down hard from the bananas period we has recently

Even better! :o

Unfortunately, I doubt they'll include ray tracing on next gen consoles. It's just way too taxing on the system at 4k 30fps on consoles. Ray tracing looks more like a PC niche feature for the RTX lineup. I hope I'm wrong though.

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#14  Edited By xantufrog  Moderator
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@loco145: I'm seeing 1070TIs for 400 right now and vega 64 for 470, and 1080 at 480. The prices are pretty great and I'm sure 450 will pop up again and again - that's not far from 480

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#15 loco145
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@xantufrog said:

@loco145: I'm seeing 1070TIs for 400 right now and vega 64 for 470, and 1080 at 480. The prices are pretty great and I'm sure 450 will pop up again and again - that's not far from 480

True. I thought you were talking about the 1080ti, strange enough.

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Somewhere between an Atari 2600 & an Atari Jaguar.

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#17 JasonOfA36
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The GPUs are fine, at least for the One X and the PS4 pro. They should focus on bringing a better CPU than the shitshow they call CPUs on the current consoles.

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#18 sakaiXx
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If they can take off Mark Cerny and his amazingly ability to make sense of low end tech product that can satisfy casuals..... Space is the limit baby, space is.

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#19 uninspiredcup
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@i_p_daily said:

Somewhere between an Atari 2600 & an Atari Jaguar.

Do the math.

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#20 hrt_rulz01
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@BassMan said:

I can say with certainty that it will be shit compared to what will be available on PC when it launches.

And cost MUCH less.

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#21 uninspiredcup
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@hrt_rulz01 said:
@BassMan said:

I can say with certainty that it will be shit compared to what will be available on PC when it launches.

And cost MUCH less.

The PC itself no longer really has AAA blockbuster games unless they are console ports or specific genres like strategy (Total War).

The days of boasting about Crysis is long gone, PS4 games look better than PC games, let alone PS5.

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@uninspiredcup said:
@hrt_rulz01 said:
@BassMan said:

I can say with certainty that it will be shit compared to what will be available on PC when it launches.

And cost MUCH less.

The PC itself no longer really has AAA blockbuster games unless they are console ports or specific genres like strategy (Total War).

The days of boasting about Crysis is long gone, PS4 games look better than PC games, let alone PS5.

Not sure I'd go that far, but yes, I agree to an extent.

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#23 Fedor
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If its fall 2020 like I think it will be then 12 tflop with performance on par with a 1080ti.

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#24  Edited By reavis86
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Amd apu that utilizes a 7nm ryzen 2 4c/8t cpu and a Vega64 equivalent from either the 7nm Vega refresh or the 7nm Navi. If Sony completely abandons the ps4 family and makes a full blown PS5 without having either ps4 be compatible with its games, then the base line for consoles will be bumped up tremendously with this chipset.

I'm not saying this is what I'm wanting. I'm just saying from the tech that'll be available and basing things off past practices, this is the chipset combo that I'd bet on.

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#25 DrRollinstein
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I dont know what any of the options mean, so ill just say itll probably surpass the One X by a little, and then Microsoft will invent the Xbox One XX which will surpass the 5, and itll continue until the end of time.

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@uninspiredcup said:
@i_p_daily said:

Somewhere between an Atari 2600 & an Atari Jaguar.

Do the math.

Ok so i did the math and the results came back as closer to the 2600, but with graphics not up to par with ET, but only just.

My super computer doesn't lie.

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#27 deactivated-63d2876fd4204
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Sony and Microsoft should NOT launch in 2019. The price/tech ratio is still too far off. Folks are gonna end up paying $399 for a 1070Ti/1080 type console, with a potato CPU and the same amount of RAM as the X. Consoles need another year to make the next leap a worthy one

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The PS5 is currently operating the Mars Rover as we speak.

The power of PS5 streaming.

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#29 DaVillain  Moderator
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PS5 powerful XD

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#30 locus-solus
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A 1080 ti and 2080 are almost identical in performance when you don't consider dlss

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#31 BlackBalls
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Whatever, console power is meh. Just get me those exlusive games. Please.

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#32 loco145
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@locus-solus: The 2080 has extra silicon dedicated to AI and RT, though. it has yet to be used.

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#33 locus-solus
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@loco145 said:

@locus-solus: The 2080 has extra silicon dedicated to AI and RT, though. it has yet to be used.

dlss/deep learning suppersampling uses tensor cores to increase frame rate and/or add anti aliasing. from my understanding for a game to incorporate dlss a supercomputer/AI most first learn to render frames and the optimized code can than be patch into games to be used by rtx cards.

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I'm calling it now, Xbox Scarlet will be stronger than PS5 with a release around 2020-2022

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Powerful enough to attract a small congregation of cockroach worshippers.

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#37 Blackhairedhero
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1080ti level, Rysen and 16GB DDR6.

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#38  Edited By Blackhairedhero
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@goldenelementxl: Rysen would be a massive leap. And that most definitely will be the cpu

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#39 appariti0n
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Probably somewhere between a 1080 and a 1080ti would be my guess.

I’m far more interested to see if they actually put a decent cpu in it this time. A lower tdp 8 core ryzen variant would be nice.

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#40 svaubel
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Forgot to mention... hopefully next gen consoles wont have decent/good GPUs bottlenecked by potato CPUs

@Telekill said:

A bit of a leap over the Pro with a 2TB HDD, 4K HDR and PS4/VR backwards compatibility.

Also hoping that 2TB is standard. Games are starting to hit 100GB now.

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#41 Dark_man123
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you probably might be able to grill burgers on this one.

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@mandzilla said:

Powerful enough to attract a small congregation of cockroach worshippers.

This is for the roaches lol

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#43  Edited By thegiantPEACH
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Not powerful enough to do 4k 60fps so who cares

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@i_p_daily: Lmao.

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#46 DragonfireXZ95
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Guessing possibly 1080, but that's about as far as I'll go. Vega 64 is the likely suspect.

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#47 rzxv04
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Rasterization capability probably between Vega 56 and 64 with exclusive/custom features (Navi/Arcturus?). Maybe some RT hardware in them.

If it were released sooner and cheaper say $ 399 2019 Around Vega 56 in rasterization with 8GB HBM3/GDDR6 and 8GB DDR4/5 3X00 Mhz.

Maybe lucky if we can get 12 GB VRAM (all for games) + 4GB RAM (OS).

Possible CPUs:

Around 8 Cores / 8 Threads 3.X Ghz.

~6C/12T

~8C/16T

~16C/16T 2.X Ghz.

I'm hoping for a 2021 release for $ 499 so the jump could possibly be bigger and cheaper unless there's some sort of economic catastrophe.

For 2021/$ 499

I'm hoping for no less than:

16C/16T 2.X Ghz.

GTX 1080/Vega 64+ rasterization. Some dedicated RT hardware.

16 GB HBM3/GDDR6 + 8 GB DDR5 3X00 Mhz (24 GB Total)

Not sure if we'll have the PRO models out of the gate and still have a mid-gen.

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#48 WitIsWisdom
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I said 1080ti, but not because I think that is what it will be as much as I think it will be somewhere in the middle. A couple steps ahead of the X1X and a couple steps lower then they are going to go mid gen.

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#49 rzxv04
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I'm also hoping for some sort of new console caching system. Some sort if an improvement of current SSHDs.

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#50 ArchoNils2
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I assume somewhere between my Notebook and my Pc. So I guess around 1080 (non Ti).