How is the winner of the System Wars decided?

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#51 lundy86_4
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So in terms of deciding which system wins in "System Wars", we use Gamespot scores. Which shows that Forza 3 attained the same score as UC2.

TREY_FOR_LI4E

Sure, if you ignore every other review out there in the world.

Ugggghh, I just explained that to you. Please read, and then comprehend what you are reading before you comment back ok? Lest you look like you don't know what you're talking about.

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#53 PAL360
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Sales say who officially wins. Imo the winner is the one with more quality games.

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#54 Burning-Sludge
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I know it isn't the only site. However in System Wars we go exclusively by their scores. You are on a forum of their site.

lundy86_4

So we can't use sites owned by CBS Interactive (Game Spot's parent company)?

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#55 metal_zombie
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

So in terms of deciding which system wins in "System Wars", we use Gamespot scores. Which shows that Forza 3 attained the same score as UC2.

TREY_FOR_LI4E

Sure, if you ignore every other review out there in the world.

i seen ur videos real funny
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#56 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

I know it isn't the only site. However in System Wars we go exclusively by their scores. You are on a forum of their site.

Burning-Sludge

So we can't use sites owned by CBS Interactive (Game Spot's parent company)?

I'm not sure of the xact intricacies, but like I said, you can bring them up. I'm just talking in terms of deciding what games are AAAA, AAA, AA, A and flops etc etc.

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#57 TREY_FOR_LI4E
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

I know it isn't the only site. However in System Wars we go exclusively by their scores. You are on a forum of their site.

Burning-Sludge

So we can't use sites owned by CBS Interactive (Game Spot's parent company)?

yeah, it's like the Wizard of Oz. Pay no mind to the man behind the curtain!

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#58 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="Burning-Sludge"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

I know it isn't the only site. However in System Wars we go exclusively by their scores. You are on a forum of their site.

TREY_FOR_LI4E

So we can't use sites owned by CBS Interactive (Game Spot's parent company)?

yeah, it's like the Wizard of Oz. Pay no mind to the man behind the curtain!

Do you just not read the posts of the people you're countering? Otherwise, this has all been addressed in my very 1st post to you.

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#59 awssk8er716
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Overall of everything.

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#60 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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Usually by picking straws.
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#61 Burning-Sludge
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[QUOTE="Burning-Sludge"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

I know it isn't the only site. However in System Wars we go exclusively by their scores. You are on a forum of their site.

lundy86_4

So we can't use sites owned by CBS Interactive (Game Spot's parent company)?

I'm not sure of the xact intricacies, but like I said, you can bring them up. I'm just talking in terms of deciding what games are AAAA, AAA, AA, A and flops etc etc.

  • GameFAQs
  • Metacritic
  • GameRankings

I can't see the reason why we can't bring them up, money is going to the same place.

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#62 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Burning-Sludge"]

So we can't use sites owned by CBS Interactive (Game Spot's parent company)?

Burning-Sludge

I'm not sure of the xact intricacies, but like I said, you can bring them up. I'm just talking in terms of deciding what games are AAAA, AAA, AA, A and flops etc etc.

  • GameFAQs
  • Metacritic
  • GameRankings

I can't see the reason why we can't bring them up, money is going to the same place.

Ahhh this is what happens when people misconstrue what I say, ie Trey.

I never said they can't be brought up. Go back and read my 1st reply to him please.

Ahhh never mind, here we go.

"Mhmmm, you're entitled to believe what you want. However in terms of flops, exclusives scores and listings and amount of AAAA,AAA,AA,A games, we use Gamespot scores. If people wish to bring other scores up conversationally, or inform people of other scores, then that's fine.

So in terms of deciding which system wins in "System Wars", we use Gamespot scores. Which shows that Forza 3 attained the same score as UC2.

"

Note how I said we can bring up other scores conversationally, though the have no impact on what is AAAA, AAA, AA, A in "System Wars". ie this place.

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#63 TREY_FOR_LI4E
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[QUOTE="Burning-Sludge"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

I'm not sure of the xact intricacies, but like I said, you can bring them up. I'm just talking in terms of deciding what games are AAAA, AAA, AA, A and flops etc etc.

lundy86_4

  • GameFAQs
  • Metacritic
  • GameRankings

I can't see the reason why we can't bring them up, money is going to the same place.

Ahhh this is what happens when people misconstrue what I say, ie Trey.

I never said they can't be brought up. Go back and read my 1st reply to him please.

People read what you posted. That's why people are pointing out how you're wrong.

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#64 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Burning-Sludge"]

  • GameFAQs
  • Metacritic
  • GameRankings

I can't see the reason why we can't bring them up, money is going to the same place.

TREY_FOR_LI4E

Ahhh this is what happens when people misconstrue what I say, ie Trey.

I never said they can't be brought up. Go back and read my 1st reply to him please.

People read what you posted. That's why people are pointing out how you're wrong.

How am I wrong. Take my post and ask a mod. They will tell you.

Explain why the System Wars exclusive spreadsheet doesn't have other scores in it then? That was my initial point, and you seem to fail in understanding or reading comprehension. That is not my fault :?

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#65 TREY_FOR_LI4E
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spreadsheets are only as good as the person making them. Garbage in, garbage out.

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#66 lundy86_4
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spreadsheets are only as good as the person making them. Garbage in, garbage out.

TREY_FOR_LI4E

So the mods of this forum?

So you have no counterpoint, do you finally understand what I was saying, or are you still reading and putting words in my mouth.

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#67 James161324
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Your missing there is no end to this war.

No one will agree that one console is the best.

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#68 TREY_FOR_LI4E
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[QUOTE="TREY_FOR_LI4E"]

spreadsheets are only as good as the person making them. Garbage in, garbage out.

lundy86_4

So the mods of this forum?

Correct. The mods who happen to work for...... *drumroll* Gamespot!

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#69 pierst179
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Sales are the only things that can actually be measured.. Arguing about the "quality" of exclusives wont get anyone anywhere. Opinions are subjective and it seems most of SW doesn't understand that basic concept.

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You are absolutely right.

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#70 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="TREY_FOR_LI4E"]

spreadsheets are only as good as the person making them. Garbage in, garbage out.

TREY_FOR_LI4E

So the mods of this forum?

Correct. The mods who happen to work for...... *drumroll* Gamespot!

Huh, the admin works for Gamespot.

The mods are just volunteers.

*Drumroll*

Thanks.

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#71 cainetao11
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="TREY_FOR_LI4E"]

Fix'd

And, yes, UC2 outscored Forza 3 at metacritic and gamerankings.

TREY_FOR_LI4E

That's wrong. System Wars or any other gamer than you does not decide it off that thread. What are you talking about?

We're not on Metacritic and Gamerankings, we're on Gamespot, where we go by their scores.

Gamespot. Schmamespot. Gamespot isn't the only review site out there for video games, and a review from Gamespot isn't any more or less credible than a review from IGN, 1UP, or Amazon.com user reviews. They're all just opinions, but at least metacritic and gamerankings (both of which are owned by CNET, which owns Gamespot, fyi) try to take some kind of consensus or average of review sites.

Go post at those other sites then. This is GS SW, that's what we go buy, score wise. Deal with it or leave the kitchen_4_life
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#72 TREY_FOR_LI4E
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[QUOTE="TREY_FOR_LI4E"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

So the mods of this forum?

lundy86_4

Correct. The mods who happen to work for...... *drumroll* Gamespot!

Huh, the admin works for Gamespot.

The mods are just volunteers.

*Drumroll*

Thanks.

ITT volunteers can't work for anyone.

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#73 opex07
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I'm pretty sure sales have never determined the winner due to the PC lacking sales data.

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#74 Burning-Sludge
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Correct. The mods who happen to work for...... *drumroll* Gamespot!

TREY_FOR_LI4E

Actually mods are just users with slightly more powers. Admins work for Game Spot

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#75 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="TREY_FOR_LI4E"]

Correct. The mods who happen to work for...... *drumroll* Gamespot!

TREY_FOR_LI4E

Huh, the admin works for Gamespot.

The mods are just volunteers.

*Drumroll*

Thanks.

ITT volunteers can't work for anyone.

Sorry I misconstrued what you said.

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You are all FOOLS!!! The war never ends!!!! MUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
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#77 Burning-Sludge
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Go post at those other sites then. This is GS SW, that's what we go buy, score wise. Deal with it or leave the kitchen_4_lifecainetao11

:lol: LOL most of us use Game Spot just for the forums. :lol:

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#78 SLIisaownsystem
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graphics of course

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[QUOTE="cainetao11"]Go post at those other sites then. This is GS SW, that's what we go buy, score wise. Deal with it or leave the kitchen_4_lifeBurning-Sludge

:lol: LOL most of us use Game Spot just for the forums. :lol:

True. But you can't refute Halo Wars being flop of the year in SW, because of what it scored in Game Informer.
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It has always been sales until it was obvious that the Wii was going to win the generation by that measurement so it changed to something the PS3 has the most of and the Wii has least of.

TREY_FOR_LI4E

I don't think anyone contests the fact that the Wii is winning sales and will probably win this generation for sales. That said, while the Wii may have some good exclusives, PS3 has every console beat hands down in the quality of exclusives department. To deny that is on par with denying that the Wii is sales king at the moment.

This kind of response is the reason why SW isn't what it used to be. Sales have always determined the winner. Now SW is infected with rabid fanboys that change the rules.

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However many fanboys are currently present

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#82 MortalDecay
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[QUOTE="TREY_FOR_LI4E"]

According to this topic, the system with the best exclusives wins the System Wars.

According to this topic, the PS3 has the best exclusives:

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27095291&tag=topics;title

Ergo, PS3 has won System Wars! So nice! ^_^

Sorry, but the winner is decided on facts, like sales, and success. Not based on opinion, like better exclusives.
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[QUOTE="TREY_FOR_LI4E"]

[QUOTE="Burning-Sludge"]

It has always been sales until it was obvious that the Wii was going to win the generation by that measurement so it changed to something the PS3 has the most of and the Wii has least of.

jdmpastor

I don't think anyone contests the fact that the Wii is winning sales and will probably win this generation for sales. That said, while the Wii may have some good exclusives, PS3 has every console beat hands down in the quality of exclusives department. To deny that is on par with denying that the Wii is sales king at the moment.

This kind of response is the reason why SW isn't what it used to be. Sales have always determined the winner. Now SW is infected with rabid fanboys that change the rules.

The reason for the rule change is because the last two Playstations won by having massive sales. Now that cows know they won't win the war this time, they want to change to the rules to what they think the PS3 has a chance at winning.

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#84 789shadow
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[QUOTE="TREY_FOR_LI4E"]

According to this topic, the system with the best exclusives wins the System Wars.

According to this topic, the PS3 has the best exclusives:

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27095291&tag=topics;title

Ergo, PS3 has won System Wars! So nice! ^_^

MortalDecay

Sorry, but the winner is decided on facts, like sales, and success. Not based on opinion, like better exclusives.

Um, last time I checked, we use the GS score for games to determine the better library.

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Whichever system has the most fanboys.
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#86 Silverbond
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[QUOTE="MortalDecay"][QUOTE="TREY_FOR_LI4E"]

According to this topic, the system with the best exclusives wins the System Wars.

According to this topic, the PS3 has the best exclusives:

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27095291&tag=topics;title

Ergo, PS3 has won System Wars! So nice! ^_^

789shadow

Sorry, but the winner is decided on facts, like sales, and success. Not based on opinion, like better exclusives.

Um, last time I checked, we use the GS score for games to determine the better library.

In which case, the PC wins...

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#87 MortalDecay
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="MortalDecay"][QUOTE="TREY_FOR_LI4E"]

According to this topic, the system with the best exclusives wins the System Wars.

According to this topic, the PS3 has the best exclusives:

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27095291&tag=topics;title

Ergo, PS3 has won System Wars! So nice! ^_^

Sorry, but the winner is decided on facts, like sales, and success. Not based on opinion, like better exclusives.

Um, last time I checked, we use the GS score for games to determine the better library.

You might, but I don't. GS gave games like GTA4, MGS4, and Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3 a perfect 10. I don't agree with that one bit. I don't agree give Halo such high scores, either. I have also enjoyed games that they rated low. Reviews are just someone's opinion, nothing more. You might go around, and brag about which console has the the best games, based on reviews, but all you're doing is giving someone else's opinion. Not everyone will agree with you. You cannot argue with sales. These are facts. Not reviews.
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#88 789shadow
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="MortalDecay"] Sorry, but the winner is decided on facts, like sales, and success. Not based on opinion, like better exclusives.MortalDecay

Um, last time I checked, we use the GS score for games to determine the better library.

You might, but I don't. GS gave games like GTA4, MGS4, and Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3 a perfect 10. I don't agree with that one bit. I don't agree give Halo such high scores, either. I have also enjoyed games that they rated low. Reviews are just someone's opinion, nothing more. You might go around, and brag about which console has the the best games, based on reviews, but all you're doing is giving someone else's opinion. Not everyone will agree with you. You cannot argue with sales. These are facts. Not reviews.

Good luck never being taken seriously when comparing libraries.

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#89 MortalDecay
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[QUOTE="MortalDecay"][QUOTE="789shadow"]

Um, last time I checked, we use the GS score for games to determine the better library.

789shadow

You might, but I don't. GS gave games like GTA4, MGS4, and Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3 a perfect 10. I don't agree with that one bit. I don't agree give Halo such high scores, either. I have also enjoyed games that they rated low. Reviews are just someone's opinion, nothing more. You might go around, and brag about which console has the the best games, based on reviews, but all you're doing is giving someone else's opinion. Not everyone will agree with you. You cannot argue with sales. These are facts. Not reviews.

Good luck never being taken seriously when comparing libraries.

I couldn't care less. All you're doing is comparing opinions. My opinion is no better than yours, and vise versa.

Since when should anything in System Wars be taken seriously? :lol: