High-end PCs cost >$4000
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Misconception of the century: PCs cost less or equal to consoles. Spartan070That is true, however, the difference between a non-gaming PC and a gaming PC isn't that much ($400 - $500), less than the price of a PS3.
Misconception of the century: PCs cost less or equal to consoles. Spartan070ACtually, over time the price of PC gaming is less than or equal to console gaming over the span of a single generation. You don't HAVE to upgrade at all during a generation. You buy somethign that out performs the consoles in 2005, it will STILL be doing so in 2007. Consoles are static, its not like PC gaming parts get worse over time, nor do consoles get better over time in terms of potential power. You can spend a set ammount of money on PC gaming and call it cuts and over the span of a genration spend less due to cheaper games and many other things.
well if you wanna keep your computer fully upgraded for as long as a console will last you it will end up costing around 4000 dollars......ChipmunkDeluxeIn a single generation? Unlikely. In a 5 year period, you should only ever need to upgrade twice at a maximum, and that's probably not redoing the entire system.
well if you wanna keep your computer fully upgraded for as long as a console will last you it will end up costing around 4000 dollars......ChipmunkDeluxeWhich is as about as redundant as keeping a bear on a leash. You can buy a standardized PC that outperforms consoles for a low price and by the END of the generation it will STILL be doing so.
[QUOTE="Spartan070"]Misconception of the century: PCs cost less or equal to consoles. kraidiationThat is true, however, the difference between a non-gaming PC and a gaming PC isn't that much ($400 - $500), less than the price of a PS3. True...
[QUOTE="Spartan070"]Misconception of the century: PCs cost less or equal to consoles. VandalvideoACtually, over time the price of PC gaming is less than or equal to console gaming over the span of a single generation. You don't HAVE to upgrade at all during a generation. You buy somethign that out performs the consoles in 2005, it will STILL be doing so in 2007. Consoles are static, its not like PC gaming parts get worse over time, nor do consoles get better over time in terms of potential power. You can spend a set ammount of money on PC gaming and call it cuts and over the span of a genration spend less due to cheaper games and many other things. Over time of course but I thought he meant like from scratch.
[QUOTE="kraidiation"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]Misconception of the century: PCs cost less or equal to consoles. Spartan070That is true, however, the difference between a non-gaming PC and a gaming PC isn't that much ($400 - $500), less than the price of a PS3. True...
[QUOTE="Spartan070"]Misconception of the century: PCs cost less or equal to consoles. VandalvideoACtually, over time the price of PC gaming is less than or equal to console gaming over the span of a single generation. You don't HAVE to upgrade at all during a generation. You buy somethign that out performs the consoles in 2005, it will STILL be doing so in 2007. Consoles are static, its not like PC gaming parts get worse over time, nor do consoles get better over time in terms of potential power. You can spend a set ammount of money on PC gaming and call it cuts and over the span of a genration spend less due to cheaper games and many other things. Over time of course but I thought he meant like from scratch.
The difference between a gaming and a NON gaming PC is the GPU...and the console owner that doesnt have a PC ends up shopping in stores and being ripped the hell out of him with €70($85) games...so the PC is needed...
Last if ones wants to OUTPERFORM the consoles he MUST PAY more...
If one wants to have SAME performance he doesnt have to pay more...
[QUOTE="Spartan070"]Misconception of the century: PCs cost less or equal to consoles. VandalvideoACtually, over time the price of PC gaming is less than or equal to console gaming over the span of a single generation. You don't HAVE to upgrade at all during a generation. You buy somethign that out performs the consoles in 2005, it will STILL be doing so in 2007. Consoles are static, its not like PC gaming parts get worse over time, nor do consoles get better over time in terms of potential power. You can spend a set ammount of money on PC gaming and call it cuts and over the span of a genration spend less due to cheaper games and many other things. Not true at all, like I said 360 is running GoW while my high end PC that costs me $2000 can't ever run Oblivion fully. If you mean RUN the game that's fine, but RUN it to it's full power is a total misconception.
[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]Misconception of the century: PCs cost less or equal to consoles. DencoreACtually, over time the price of PC gaming is less than or equal to console gaming over the span of a single generation. You don't HAVE to upgrade at all during a generation. You buy somethign that out performs the consoles in 2005, it will STILL be doing so in 2007. Consoles are static, its not like PC gaming parts get worse over time, nor do consoles get better over time in terms of potential power. You can spend a set ammount of money on PC gaming and call it cuts and over the span of a genration spend less due to cheaper games and many other things. Not true at all, like I said 360 is running GoW while my high end PC that costs me $2000 can't ever run Oblivion fully. If you mean RUN the game that's fine, but RUN it to it's full power is a total misconception.
Xbox360 runs Oblivion and GeoW at 30 FRAMES PER SECOND, at 720p with 4xAA... An $800 custom built PC can run Oblivion at those settings...
I bet your PC was a prebuilt Dell POS...
[QUOTE="Dencore"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]Misconception of the century: PCs cost less or equal to consoles. True_Gamer_ACtually, over time the price of PC gaming is less than or equal to console gaming over the span of a single generation. You don't HAVE to upgrade at all during a generation. You buy somethign that out performs the consoles in 2005, it will STILL be doing so in 2007. Consoles are static, its not like PC gaming parts get worse over time, nor do consoles get better over time in terms of potential power. You can spend a set ammount of money on PC gaming and call it cuts and over the span of a genration spend less due to cheaper games and many other things. Not true at all, like I said 360 is running GoW while my high end PC that costs me $2000 can't ever run Oblivion fully. If you mean RUN the game that's fine, but RUN it to it's full power is a total misconception.
Xbox360 runs Oblivion and GeoW at 30 FRAMES PER SECOND, at 720p with 4xAA... An $800 custom built PC can run Oblivion at those settings...
I bet your PC was a prebuilt Dell POS...
lLast I heard, GeOW doesn't even use AA. And it lags when theres a bunch of smoke on-screen? Pathetic... :lol:
Lol at this thread. Your gonna need to spend a little bit on a PC that will run UT3 or Crysis maxed out. You can go ahead and spend 400 on a PC, have fun playing crysis looking like half life 1. :-)ThePatriots
If ones wants to OUTPERFORM the consoles he MUST PAY more...
If one wants to have SAME performance he doesnt have to pay more...
[QUOTE="Dencore"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]Misconception of the century: PCs cost less or equal to consoles. True_Gamer_ACtually, over time the price of PC gaming is less than or equal to console gaming over the span of a single generation. You don't HAVE to upgrade at all during a generation. You buy somethign that out performs the consoles in 2005, it will STILL be doing so in 2007. Consoles are static, its not like PC gaming parts get worse over time, nor do consoles get better over time in terms of potential power. You can spend a set ammount of money on PC gaming and call it cuts and over the span of a genration spend less due to cheaper games and many other things. Not true at all, like I said 360 is running GoW while my high end PC that costs me $2000 can't ever run Oblivion fully. If you mean RUN the game that's fine, but RUN it to it's full power is a total misconception.
Xbox360 runs Oblivion and GeoW at 30 FRAMES PER SECOND, at 720p with 4xAA... An $800 custom built PC can run Oblivion at those settings...
I bet your PC was a prebuilt Dell POS...
Nope handbuilt, and you just said $800 custom built the 360 is $400.
[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="Dencore"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]Misconception of the century: PCs cost less or equal to consoles. dgsagACtually, over time the price of PC gaming is less than or equal to console gaming over the span of a single generation. You don't HAVE to upgrade at all during a generation. You buy somethign that out performs the consoles in 2005, it will STILL be doing so in 2007. Consoles are static, its not like PC gaming parts get worse over time, nor do consoles get better over time in terms of potential power. You can spend a set ammount of money on PC gaming and call it cuts and over the span of a genration spend less due to cheaper games and many other things. Not true at all, like I said 360 is running GoW while my high end PC that costs me $2000 can't ever run Oblivion fully. If you mean RUN the game that's fine, but RUN it to it's full power is a total misconception.
Xbox360 runs Oblivion and GeoW at 30 FRAMES PER SECOND, at 720p with 4xAA... An $800 custom built PC can run Oblivion at those settings...
I bet your PC was a prebuilt Dell POS...
lLast I heard, GeOW doesn't even use AA. And it lags when theres a bunch of smoke on-screen? Pathetic... :lol: yet GeoW has better graphics then Oblivion...
Lol at this thread. Your gonna need to spend a little bit on a PC that will run UT3 or Crysis maxed out. You can go ahead and spend 400 on a PC, have fun playing crysis looking like half life 1. :-)ThePatriotsQFT land from a distance away looks worse then N64, more like SEGA 32X on my PC. It is so funny, I was playing HL2: Episode 1, maxed out higest resolution, sound, graphics, shading, HDR, everything. And yet I can't run Oblivion normally? Ugh I would seriously smash my PC out of anger for the extra $1000 I spent on it for the supposable better "PC gaming" I would if I didn't get expierence the greatest game of all time with it "Half-Life 2"
[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="Dencore"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]Misconception of the century: PCs cost less or equal to consoles. DencoreACtually, over time the price of PC gaming is less than or equal to console gaming over the span of a single generation. You don't HAVE to upgrade at all during a generation. You buy somethign that out performs the consoles in 2005, it will STILL be doing so in 2007. Consoles are static, its not like PC gaming parts get worse over time, nor do consoles get better over time in terms of potential power. You can spend a set ammount of money on PC gaming and call it cuts and over the span of a genration spend less due to cheaper games and many other things. Not true at all, like I said 360 is running GoW while my high end PC that costs me $2000 can't ever run Oblivion fully. If you mean RUN the game that's fine, but RUN it to it's full power is a total misconception.
Xbox360 runs Oblivion and GeoW at 30 FRAMES PER SECOND, at 720p with 4xAA... An $800 custom built PC can run Oblivion at those settings...
I bet your PC was a prebuilt Dell POS...
Nope handbuilt, and you just said $800 custom built the 360 is $400.
[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="Dencore"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]Misconception of the century: PCs cost less or equal to consoles. dgsagACtually, over time the price of PC gaming is less than or equal to console gaming over the span of a single generation. You don't HAVE to upgrade at all during a generation. You buy somethign that out performs the consoles in 2005, it will STILL be doing so in 2007. Consoles are static, its not like PC gaming parts get worse over time, nor do consoles get better over time in terms of potential power. You can spend a set ammount of money on PC gaming and call it cuts and over the span of a genration spend less due to cheaper games and many other things. Not true at all, like I said 360 is running GoW while my high end PC that costs me $2000 can't ever run Oblivion fully. If you mean RUN the game that's fine, but RUN it to it's full power is a total misconception.
Xbox360 runs Oblivion and GeoW at 30 FRAMES PER SECOND, at 720p with 4xAA... An $800 custom built PC can run Oblivion at those settings...
I bet your PC was a prebuilt Dell POS...
lLast I heard, GeOW doesn't even use AA. And it lags when theres a bunch of smoke on-screen? Pathetic... :lol: yet GeoW has better graphics then Oblivion...
Lol at this thread. Your gonna need to spend a little bit on a PC that will run UT3 or Crysis maxed out. You can go ahead and spend 400 on a PC, have fun playing crysis looking like half life 1. :-)ThePatriotsQFT land from a distance away looks worse then N64, more like SEGA 32X on my PC. It is so funny, I was playing HL2: Episode 1, maxed out higest resolution, sound, graphics, shading, HDR, everything. And yet I can't run Oblivion normally? Ugh I would seriously smash my PC out of anger for the extra $1000 I spent on it for the supposable better "PC gaming" I would if I didn't get expierence the greatest game of all time with it "Half-Life 2"
So you typed all that from a Xbox360? :lol:
Plus why none of the lemmings smash their consoles? They run at 30fps on low res and AA? :lol:
[QUOTE="Dencore"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="Dencore"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]Misconception of the century: PCs cost less or equal to consoles. True_Gamer_ACtually, over time the price of PC gaming is less than or equal to console gaming over the span of a single generation. You don't HAVE to upgrade at all during a generation. You buy somethign that out performs the consoles in 2005, it will STILL be doing so in 2007. Consoles are static, its not like PC gaming parts get worse over time, nor do consoles get better over time in terms of potential power. You can spend a set ammount of money on PC gaming and call it cuts and over the span of a genration spend less due to cheaper games and many other things. Not true at all, like I said 360 is running GoW while my high end PC that costs me $2000 can't ever run Oblivion fully. If you mean RUN the game that's fine, but RUN it to it's full power is a total misconception.
Xbox360 runs Oblivion and GeoW at 30 FRAMES PER SECOND, at 720p with 4xAA... An $800 custom built PC can run Oblivion at those settings...
I bet your PC was a prebuilt Dell POS...
Nope handbuilt, and you just said $800 custom built the 360 is $400.
[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="Dencore"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]Misconception of the century: PCs cost less or equal to consoles. dgsagACtually, over time the price of PC gaming is less than or equal to console gaming over the span of a single generation. You don't HAVE to upgrade at all during a generation. You buy somethign that out performs the consoles in 2005, it will STILL be doing so in 2007. Consoles are static, its not like PC gaming parts get worse over time, nor do consoles get better over time in terms of potential power. You can spend a set ammount of money on PC gaming and call it cuts and over the span of a genration spend less due to cheaper games and many other things. Not true at all, like I said 360 is running GoW while my high end PC that costs me $2000 can't ever run Oblivion fully. If you mean RUN the game that's fine, but RUN it to it's full power is a total misconception.
Xbox360 runs Oblivion and GeoW at 30 FRAMES PER SECOND, at 720p with 4xAA... An $800 custom built PC can run Oblivion at those settings...
I bet your PC was a prebuilt Dell POS...
lLast I heard, GeOW doesn't even use AA. And it lags when theres a bunch of smoke on-screen? Pathetic... :lol: yet GeoW has better graphics then Oblivion...
Lol at this thread. Your gonna need to spend a little bit on a PC that will run UT3 or Crysis maxed out. You can go ahead and spend 400 on a PC, have fun playing crysis looking like half life 1. :-)ThePatriotsQFT land from a distance away looks worse then N64, more like SEGA 32X on my PC. It is so funny, I was playing HL2: Episode 1, maxed out higest resolution, sound, graphics, shading, HDR, everything. And yet I can't run Oblivion normally? Ugh I would seriously smash my PC out of anger for the extra $1000 I spent on it for the supposable better "PC gaming" I would if I didn't get expierence the greatest game of all time with it "Half-Life 2"
So you typed all that from a Xbox360? :lol:
Plus why none of the lemmings smash their consoles? They run at 30fps on low res and AA? :lol:
WTF does typing have to do with comparing graphics to the 360? And better 30 FPS then 15 FPS which some games on my PC can currently run on. :|
[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="Dencore"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="Dencore"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]Misconception of the century: PCs cost less or equal to consoles. DencoreACtually, over time the price of PC gaming is less than or equal to console gaming over the span of a single generation. You don't HAVE to upgrade at all during a generation. You buy somethign that out performs the consoles in 2005, it will STILL be doing so in 2007. Consoles are static, its not like PC gaming parts get worse over time, nor do consoles get better over time in terms of potential power. You can spend a set ammount of money on PC gaming and call it cuts and over the span of a genration spend less due to cheaper games and many other things. Not true at all, like I said 360 is running GoW while my high end PC that costs me $2000 can't ever run Oblivion fully. If you mean RUN the game that's fine, but RUN it to it's full power is a total misconception.
Xbox360 runs Oblivion and GeoW at 30 FRAMES PER SECOND, at 720p with 4xAA... An $800 custom built PC can run Oblivion at those settings...
I bet your PC was a prebuilt Dell POS...
Nope handbuilt, and you just said $800 custom built the 360 is $400.
[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="Dencore"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]Misconception of the century: PCs cost less or equal to consoles. dgsagACtually, over time the price of PC gaming is less than or equal to console gaming over the span of a single generation. You don't HAVE to upgrade at all during a generation. You buy somethign that out performs the consoles in 2005, it will STILL be doing so in 2007. Consoles are static, its not like PC gaming parts get worse over time, nor do consoles get better over time in terms of potential power. You can spend a set ammount of money on PC gaming and call it cuts and over the span of a genration spend less due to cheaper games and many other things. Not true at all, like I said 360 is running GoW while my high end PC that costs me $2000 can't ever run Oblivion fully. If you mean RUN the game that's fine, but RUN it to it's full power is a total misconception.
Xbox360 runs Oblivion and GeoW at 30 FRAMES PER SECOND, at 720p with 4xAA... An $800 custom built PC can run Oblivion at those settings...
I bet your PC was a prebuilt Dell POS...
lLast I heard, GeOW doesn't even use AA. And it lags when theres a bunch of smoke on-screen? Pathetic... :lol: yet GeoW has better graphics then Oblivion...
Lol at this thread. Your gonna need to spend a little bit on a PC that will run UT3 or Crysis maxed out. You can go ahead and spend 400 on a PC, have fun playing crysis looking like half life 1. :-)ThePatriotsQFT land from a distance away looks worse then N64, more like SEGA 32X on my PC. It is so funny, I was playing HL2: Episode 1, maxed out higest resolution, sound, graphics, shading, HDR, everything. And yet I can't run Oblivion normally? Ugh I would seriously smash my PC out of anger for the extra $1000 I spent on it for the supposable better "PC gaming" I would if I didn't get expierence the greatest game of all time with it "Half-Life 2"
So you typed all that from a Xbox360? :lol:
Plus why none of the lemmings smash their consoles? They run at 30fps on low res and AA? :lol:
WTF does typing have to do with comparing graphics to the 360? And better 30 FPS then 15 FPS which some games on my PC can currently run on. :|
1st What are your specs?
2nd At what settings are you running your games at?
Oveclocked CD 6300, 8600 ultra, and a 120gb HDD bring that price to smth like $1000
Depends on what you want. You can spend as much or as little as you would like.sonicareYou need to buy a house for the PC. = 400k + THHBO!!! :P
[QUOTE="Dencore"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="Dencore"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="Dencore"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]Misconception of the century: PCs cost less or equal to consoles. True_Gamer_ACtually, over time the price of PC gaming is less than or equal to console gaming over the span of a single generation. You don't HAVE to upgrade at all during a generation. You buy somethign that out performs the consoles in 2005, it will STILL be doing so in 2007. Consoles are static, its not like PC gaming parts get worse over time, nor do consoles get better over time in terms of potential power. You can spend a set ammount of money on PC gaming and call it cuts and over the span of a genration spend less due to cheaper games and many other things. Not true at all, like I said 360 is running GoW while my high end PC that costs me $2000 can't ever run Oblivion fully. If you mean RUN the game that's fine, but RUN it to it's full power is a total misconception.
Xbox360 runs Oblivion and GeoW at 30 FRAMES PER SECOND, at 720p with 4xAA... An $800 custom built PC can run Oblivion at those settings...
I bet your PC was a prebuilt Dell POS...
Nope handbuilt, and you just said $800 custom built the 360 is $400.
[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="Dencore"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]Misconception of the century: PCs cost less or equal to consoles. dgsagACtually, over time the price of PC gaming is less than or equal to console gaming over the span of a single generation. You don't HAVE to upgrade at all during a generation. You buy somethign that out performs the consoles in 2005, it will STILL be doing so in 2007. Consoles are static, its not like PC gaming parts get worse over time, nor do consoles get better over time in terms of potential power. You can spend a set ammount of money on PC gaming and call it cuts and over the span of a genration spend less due to cheaper games and many other things. Not true at all, like I said 360 is running GoW while my high end PC that costs me $2000 can't ever run Oblivion fully. If you mean RUN the game that's fine, but RUN it to it's full power is a total misconception.
Xbox360 runs Oblivion and GeoW at 30 FRAMES PER SECOND, at 720p with 4xAA... An $800 custom built PC can run Oblivion at those settings...
I bet your PC was a prebuilt Dell POS...
lLast I heard, GeOW doesn't even use AA. And it lags when theres a bunch of smoke on-screen? Pathetic... :lol: yet GeoW has better graphics then Oblivion...
Lol at this thread. Your gonna need to spend a little bit on a PC that will run UT3 or Crysis maxed out. You can go ahead and spend 400 on a PC, have fun playing crysis looking like half life 1. :-)ThePatriotsQFT land from a distance away looks worse then N64, more like SEGA 32X on my PC. It is so funny, I was playing HL2: Episode 1, maxed out higest resolution, sound, graphics, shading, HDR, everything. And yet I can't run Oblivion normally? Ugh I would seriously smash my PC out of anger for the extra $1000 I spent on it for the supposable better "PC gaming" I would if I didn't get expierence the greatest game of all time with it "Half-Life 2"
So you typed all that from a Xbox360? :lol:
Plus why none of the lemmings smash their consoles? They run at 30fps on low res and AA? :lol:
WTF does typing have to do with comparing graphics to the 360? And better 30 FPS then 15 FPS which some games on my PC can currently run on. :|
1st What are your specs?
2nd At what settings are you running your games at?
1st 512 MB Radeon XT1800 AMD 64 Athlon X2 2nd All the games I played run on the highest detail with no problem, or with little frame slow downs. Oblivion on the other hand was automatically set after installed *anyone who brought the game knows what I mean* I just feel very disappointed that some games can't be played the way they are ment to be played after such short amount of time.
[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="Dencore"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="Dencore"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="Dencore"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]Misconception of the century: PCs cost less or equal to consoles. DencoreACtually, over time the price of PC gaming is less than or equal to console gaming over the span of a single generation. You don't HAVE to upgrade at all during a generation. You buy somethign that out performs the consoles in 2005, it will STILL be doing so in 2007. Consoles are static, its not like PC gaming parts get worse over time, nor do consoles get better over time in terms of potential power. You can spend a set ammount of money on PC gaming and call it cuts and over the span of a genration spend less due to cheaper games and many other things. Not true at all, like I said 360 is running GoW while my high end PC that costs me $2000 can't ever run Oblivion fully. If you mean RUN the game that's fine, but RUN it to it's full power is a total misconception.
Xbox360 runs Oblivion and GeoW at 30 FRAMES PER SECOND, at 720p with 4xAA... An $800 custom built PC can run Oblivion at those settings...
I bet your PC was a prebuilt Dell POS...
Nope handbuilt, and you just said $800 custom built the 360 is $400.
[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="Dencore"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]Misconception of the century: PCs cost less or equal to consoles. dgsagACtually, over time the price of PC gaming is less than or equal to console gaming over the span of a single generation. You don't HAVE to upgrade at all during a generation. You buy somethign that out performs the consoles in 2005, it will STILL be doing so in 2007. Consoles are static, its not like PC gaming parts get worse over time, nor do consoles get better over time in terms of potential power. You can spend a set ammount of money on PC gaming and call it cuts and over the span of a genration spend less due to cheaper games and many other things. Not true at all, like I said 360 is running GoW while my high end PC that costs me $2000 can't ever run Oblivion fully. If you mean RUN the game that's fine, but RUN it to it's full power is a total misconception.
Xbox360 runs Oblivion and GeoW at 30 FRAMES PER SECOND, at 720p with 4xAA... An $800 custom built PC can run Oblivion at those settings...
I bet your PC was a prebuilt Dell POS...
lLast I heard, GeOW doesn't even use AA. And it lags when theres a bunch of smoke on-screen? Pathetic... :lol: yet GeoW has better graphics then Oblivion...
Lol at this thread. Your gonna need to spend a little bit on a PC that will run UT3 or Crysis maxed out. You can go ahead and spend 400 on a PC, have fun playing crysis looking like half life 1. :-)ThePatriotsQFT land from a distance away looks worse then N64, more like SEGA 32X on my PC. It is so funny, I was playing HL2: Episode 1, maxed out higest resolution, sound, graphics, shading, HDR, everything. And yet I can't run Oblivion normally? Ugh I would seriously smash my PC out of anger for the extra $1000 I spent on it for the supposable better "PC gaming" I would if I didn't get expierence the greatest game of all time with it "Half-Life 2"
So you typed all that from a Xbox360? :lol:
Plus why none of the lemmings smash their consoles? They run at 30fps on low res and AA? :lol:
WTF does typing have to do with comparing graphics to the 360? And better 30 FPS then 15 FPS which some games on my PC can currently run on. :|
1st What are your specs?
2nd At what settings are you running your games at?
1st 512 MB Radeon XT1800 AMD 64 Athlon X2 2nd All the games I played run on the highest detail with no problem, or with little frame slow downs. Oblivion on the other hand was automatically set after installed *anyone who brought the game knows what I mean* I just feel very disappointed that some games can't be played the way they are ment to be played after such short amount of time.
There isnt such thing as "the way they are ment to be played"... Its down to the capitalistic economics... You get what youve paid for if you want to play games at 1900x1600 rez, 16xAA/AF, at 90fps you have to pay alot...
If you want to play games at 1280x720 rez, 4xAA/AF, at 30 fps and you know where to shop an X1950Pro will do...
I would suggest you to your card and get a 8600Ultra thats a DX10 GPU for $180...
I guess that youve built your system 4 years ago otherwise it wouldnt cost $2000...
[QUOTE="Dencore"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="Dencore"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="Dencore"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="Dencore"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]Misconception of the century: PCs cost less or equal to consoles. True_Gamer_ACtually, over time the price of PC gaming is less than or equal to console gaming over the span of a single generation. You don't HAVE to upgrade at all during a generation. You buy somethign that out performs the consoles in 2005, it will STILL be doing so in 2007. Consoles are static, its not like PC gaming parts get worse over time, nor do consoles get better over time in terms of potential power. You can spend a set ammount of money on PC gaming and call it cuts and over the span of a genration spend less due to cheaper games and many other things. Not true at all, like I said 360 is running GoW while my high end PC that costs me $2000 can't ever run Oblivion fully. If you mean RUN the game that's fine, but RUN it to it's full power is a total misconception.
Xbox360 runs Oblivion and GeoW at 30 FRAMES PER SECOND, at 720p with 4xAA... An $800 custom built PC can run Oblivion at those settings...
I bet your PC was a prebuilt Dell POS...
Nope handbuilt, and you just said $800 custom built the 360 is $400.
[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="Dencore"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]Misconception of the century: PCs cost less or equal to consoles. dgsagACtually, over time the price of PC gaming is less than or equal to console gaming over the span of a single generation. You don't HAVE to upgrade at all during a generation. You buy somethign that out performs the consoles in 2005, it will STILL be doing so in 2007. Consoles are static, its not like PC gaming parts get worse over time, nor do consoles get better over time in terms of potential power. You can spend a set ammount of money on PC gaming and call it cuts and over the span of a genration spend less due to cheaper games and many other things. Not true at all, like I said 360 is running GoW while my high end PC that costs me $2000 can't ever run Oblivion fully. If you mean RUN the game that's fine, but RUN it to it's full power is a total misconception.
Xbox360 runs Oblivion and GeoW at 30 FRAMES PER SECOND, at 720p with 4xAA... An $800 custom built PC can run Oblivion at those settings...
I bet your PC was a prebuilt Dell POS...
lLast I heard, GeOW doesn't even use AA. And it lags when theres a bunch of smoke on-screen? Pathetic... :lol: yet GeoW has better graphics then Oblivion...
Lol at this thread. Your gonna need to spend a little bit on a PC that will run UT3 or Crysis maxed out. You can go ahead and spend 400 on a PC, have fun playing crysis looking like half life 1. :-)ThePatriotsQFT land from a distance away looks worse then N64, more like SEGA 32X on my PC. It is so funny, I was playing HL2: Episode 1, maxed out higest resolution, sound, graphics, shading, HDR, everything. And yet I can't run Oblivion normally? Ugh I would seriously smash my PC out of anger for the extra $1000 I spent on it for the supposable better "PC gaming" I would if I didn't get expierence the greatest game of all time with it "Half-Life 2"
So you typed all that from a Xbox360? :lol:
Plus why none of the lemmings smash their consoles? They run at 30fps on low res and AA? :lol:
WTF does typing have to do with comparing graphics to the 360? And better 30 FPS then 15 FPS which some games on my PC can currently run on. :|
1st What are your specs?
2nd At what settings are you running your games at?
1st 512 MB Radeon XT1800 AMD 64 Athlon X2 2nd All the games I played run on the highest detail with no problem, or with little frame slow downs. Oblivion on the other hand was automatically set after installed *anyone who brought the game knows what I mean* I just feel very disappointed that some games can't be played the way they are ment to be played after such short amount of time.
There isnt such thing as "the way they are ment to be played"... Its down to the capitalistic economics... You get what youve paid for if you want to play games at 1900x1600 rez, 16xAA/AF, at 90fps you have to pay alot...
If you want to play games at 1280x720 rez, 4xAA/AF, at 30 fps and you know where to shop an X1950Pro will do...
I would suggest you to your card and get a 8600Ultra thats a DX10 GPU for $180...
I guess that youve built your system 4 years ago otherwise it wouldnt cost $2000...
more like 4 months ago
[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="Dencore"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="Dencore"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="Dencore"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="Dencore"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]Misconception of the century: PCs cost less or equal to consoles. DencoreACtually, over time the price of PC gaming is less than or equal to console gaming over the span of a single generation. You don't HAVE to upgrade at all during a generation. You buy somethign that out performs the consoles in 2005, it will STILL be doing so in 2007. Consoles are static, its not like PC gaming parts get worse over time, nor do consoles get better over time in terms of potential power. You can spend a set ammount of money on PC gaming and call it cuts and over the span of a genration spend less due to cheaper games and many other things. Not true at all, like I said 360 is running GoW while my high end PC that costs me $2000 can't ever run Oblivion fully. If you mean RUN the game that's fine, but RUN it to it's full power is a total misconception.
Xbox360 runs Oblivion and GeoW at 30 FRAMES PER SECOND, at 720p with 4xAA... An $800 custom built PC can run Oblivion at those settings...
I bet your PC was a prebuilt Dell POS...
Nope handbuilt, and you just said $800 custom built the 360 is $400.
[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="Dencore"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]Misconception of the century: PCs cost less or equal to consoles. dgsagACtually, over time the price of PC gaming is less than or equal to console gaming over the span of a single generation. You don't HAVE to upgrade at all during a generation. You buy somethign that out performs the consoles in 2005, it will STILL be doing so in 2007. Consoles are static, its not like PC gaming parts get worse over time, nor do consoles get better over time in terms of potential power. You can spend a set ammount of money on PC gaming and call it cuts and over the span of a genration spend less due to cheaper games and many other things. Not true at all, like I said 360 is running GoW while my high end PC that costs me $2000 can't ever run Oblivion fully. If you mean RUN the game that's fine, but RUN it to it's full power is a total misconception.
Xbox360 runs Oblivion and GeoW at 30 FRAMES PER SECOND, at 720p with 4xAA... An $800 custom built PC can run Oblivion at those settings...
I bet your PC was a prebuilt Dell POS...
lLast I heard, GeOW doesn't even use AA. And it lags when theres a bunch of smoke on-screen? Pathetic... :lol: yet GeoW has better graphics then Oblivion...
Lol at this thread. Your gonna need to spend a little bit on a PC that will run UT3 or Crysis maxed out. You can go ahead and spend 400 on a PC, have fun playing crysis looking like half life 1. :-)ThePatriotsQFT land from a distance away looks worse then N64, more like SEGA 32X on my PC. It is so funny, I was playing HL2: Episode 1, maxed out higest resolution, sound, graphics, shading, HDR, everything. And yet I can't run Oblivion normally? Ugh I would seriously smash my PC out of anger for the extra $1000 I spent on it for the supposable better "PC gaming" I would if I didn't get expierence the greatest game of all time with it "Half-Life 2"
So you typed all that from a Xbox360? :lol:
Plus why none of the lemmings smash their consoles? They run at 30fps on low res and AA? :lol:
WTF does typing have to do with comparing graphics to the 360? And better 30 FPS then 15 FPS which some games on my PC can currently run on. :|
1st What are your specs?
2nd At what settings are you running your games at?
1st 512 MB Radeon XT1800 AMD 64 Athlon X2 2nd All the games I played run on the highest detail with no problem, or with little frame slow downs. Oblivion on the other hand was automatically set after installed *anyone who brought the game knows what I mean* I just feel very disappointed that some games can't be played the way they are ment to be played after such short amount of time.
There isnt such thing as "the way they are ment to be played"... Its down to the capitalistic economics... You get what youve paid for if you want to play games at 1900x1600 rez, 16xAA/AF, at 90fps you have to pay alot...
If you want to play games at 1280x720 rez, 4xAA/AF, at 30 fps and you know where to shop an X1950Pro will do...
I would suggest you to your card and get a 8600Ultra thats a DX10 GPU for $180...
I guess that youve built your system 4 years ago otherwise it wouldnt cost $2000...
more like 4 months ago
Thats what I call being TOTALLY ripped off...
i think the greatest misconceptions is the noob hermitso n this site who think a high end pc consists, of a video card and a CPU. i built my computer ground up, with for example 2 gigs of ram that runs at 667ghz, and cost me 3000$ on the nose. with an X1900 crossfire. not even a g80. and a pentium D processor running at 3.4 GHZ. thats not even the half of it. and everything was the cheapest you will find it.A-LEGEND
Cheapest in the ripoff land? :lol:
[QUOTE="A-LEGEND"]i think the greatest misconceptions is the noob hermitso n this site who think a high end pc consists, of a video card and a CPU. i built my computer ground up, with for example 2 gigs of ram that runs at 667ghz, and cost me 3000$ on the nose. with an X1900 crossfire. not even a g80. and a pentium D processor running at 3.4 GHZ. thats not even the half of it. and everything was the cheapest you will find it.True_Gamer_
Cheapest in the ripoff land? :lol:
oh yes your so knowledgable. hahaha............get real.
Depends on what you want. You can spend as much or as little as you would like.sonicare
yes depends on wheter you want to get a extremly high end alienware PC for 4,000+ or no as high en but still really good PC for less... also builder your own PC saves some money
well if you wanna keep your computer fully upgraded for as long as a console will last you it will end up costing around 4000 dollars......ChipmunkDeluxe
No, it won't.Â
If you buy Alienware or do not make your own PC (Or at least get together the parts) or decide to have some REALLY unnecessary parts it can be 4 grand. And you get a new monitor and mouse and printer, etc
[QUOTE="sonicare"]Depends on what you want. You can spend as much or as little as you would like.the_hsoj
yes depends on wheter you want to get a extremly high end alienware PC for 4,000+ or no as high en but still really good PC for less... also builder your own PC saves some money
 thats the point a high end pc is not 1700$ tax in, if oyu want a high end PC it means the best stuff on them arket rightn ow. that is high end. or close as hell. thats minimum 2800$[QUOTE="the_hsoj"][QUOTE="sonicare"]Depends on what you want. You can spend as much or as little as you would like.A-LEGEND
yes depends on wheter you want to get a extremly high end alienware PC for 4,000+ or no as high en but still really good PC for less... also builder your own PC saves some money
thats the point a high end pc is not 1700$ tax in, if oyu want a high end PC it means the best stuff on them arket rightn ow. that is high end. or close as hell. thats minimum 2800$none of those parts are essential for graphics performance....
In order to surpass the consoles you need just a machine that runs games at 35fps, 1080p, 6xAA/AF...
[QUOTE="A-LEGEND"][QUOTE="the_hsoj"][QUOTE="sonicare"]Depends on what you want. You can spend as much or as little as you would like.True_Gamer_
yes depends on wheter you want to get a extremly high end alienware PC for 4,000+ or no as high en but still really good PC for less... also builder your own PC saves some money
thats the point a high end pc is not 1700$ tax in, if oyu want a high end PC it means the best stuff on them arket rightn ow. that is high end. or close as hell. thats minimum 2800$none of those parts are essential for graphics performance....
In order to surpass the consoles you need just a machine that runs games at 35fps, 1080p, 6xAA/AF...
thats why you deserve to be ignored.
[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="A-LEGEND"][QUOTE="the_hsoj"][QUOTE="sonicare"]Depends on what you want. You can spend as much or as little as you would like.A-LEGEND
yes depends on wheter you want to get a extremly high end alienware PC for 4,000+ or no as high en but still really good PC for less... also builder your own PC saves some money
thats the point a high end pc is not 1700$ tax in, if oyu want a high end PC it means the best stuff on them arket rightn ow. that is high end. or close as hell. thats minimum 2800$none of those parts are essential for graphics performance....
In order to surpass the consoles you need just a machine that runs games at 35fps, 1080p, 6xAA/AF...
thats why you deserve to be ignored.
And you still quoted and replied to me... :lol:
Sooo tell me what graphical impact has a sound card? A 500gb HDD? A $400 case?
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