Has the Nightmare of PS4 begun?

Some of you guys make it sound like that watch dogs and drive club were the only games coming out at launch for the ps4. There are many gamers who could give a damn about either. I prefer getting killzone, knack, and I'll get cod a little later. Not to mention that drive club hasn't been confirmed to be delayed.

@XBOunity: Don't know yet. Gotta wait and see how things roll after it launches. We'll have a good idea well before Infamous SS is released. If there are issues with the system or the online gaming network, etc... we'll know about it within a few weeks. The delay of games doesn't help. This made sense when it was the PS3 because it was such a b**** to develop for, but the PS4 is much easier, yet it seems Sony didn't get devkits out early enough for some developers.

Haha the PS4 looked dull and uninspired WITH a full launch line-up, its looking worse now.

@heretrix: gta cast tonight bro... You in? You've been waiting for this one.

What is this thread.

Why

Sony said they are losing about $60 on every PS4 they sell. That's better then the $180+ they were losing on every PS3 sold at launch.

http://www.geek.com/games/sony-will-sell-every-ps4-at-a-loss-but-easily-recoup-it-in-games-ps-plus-sales-1571335/

They won't start making a profit until later next year. The PS+ subscription increase will help to cancel out the loss.

@PinkiePirate: I blame Taylor Swift and her out of tune singing :P

Absolutely. I should get off work and home in time. Put me down.

User name... XBOunity, check.
Date joined... 2013-06-30, check.

MS reputation control or just a fanboy?

What does the Xbone has to offer? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbWgUO-Rqcw
A name Sony already used 13 years ago? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcsH2WSUO7M
A camera thats a glorified EyeToy? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICAfblp0I2A

The same thin game library as this generation? How long has it been since a proper exclusive has come out on the Xbox 360? How many there are to start with?
You need to make a better case, because this 8th gen MS isn't handing over any ammo for its fanboys to fight the system wars.

AMAZON.COM 2013 BEST-SELLERS [VIDEO GAMES] [PS4, XB1 only]: as of 10/17/2013 for YEAR 2013:

1. AC4 - PS4 (multi)

2. KZ:SF - PS4 (exclusive)

3. CoD:G - PS4 (multi)

4. BF4 - PS4 (multi)

5. CoD:G - XB1 (multi)

6. Knack - PS4 (exclusive)

7. Destiny - PS4 (multi)

8. DR3 - XB1 (exclusive)

9. Destiny - XB1 (multi)

10. AC4 - XB1 (multi)

11. RYSE - XB1 (exclusive)

12. Foza 5 (Regular and Limited Ed) - XB1 (exclusive)

13. FIFA 14 - PS4 (multi)

14. NBA 2K14 - PS4 (multi)

15. Madden 25 - PS4 (multi)

PS4 has nine Top-15 sellers, including the top four sellers overall.

The PS4 multiplats are out-selling the XB1 multiplats.

The first XB1 exclusive doesn't even enter the list until #8, while the PS4 has two exclusives at #2 and #6 on the list.

---BTW - DriveClub, Watch Dogs and The Crew aren't even in the top 15, yet Lemmings claim a delay will hurt PS4 sales?

Who's having nightmares again?

Pre orders don't mean SHIT.

Yep,the nightmare of PS4 has certainly come for lemmings,lol

It will continue to haunt them for the next 6 or 7 years as it repeatedly owns the Xbone with far superior multiplats and a huge range of amazing exclusives.

Thankyou Sony!!!

MMMMMMKAY...

Tell you what, if you need pre-sales figures to make you feel like you've accomplished something, then whatever dude.

you propose a better measurement of initial interest? whatever.

The nightmare started on Feb 28. Lems haven't recovered since.

Poor lems. The nightmare is only starting for them.

LOL Knack has higher preorders than every Xbone exclusive even higher than RYSE and Forza 5! You would think they would preorder Forza 5 more considering it's the only decent game in their library. What are lems gonna be playing at launch, RYSE? LMFAO!

LMAO. This is what lemming panic looks like?

Damn, don't worry you'll be erased from the console race soon Xbone fankids.

Launch is upon us

@Netherscourge: If you are going to ask for a rate at least make it respectable. $100 an hour seems low for a professional in any field of work.

Many of you Xbots always bitch about the lineup, and I can see why it's not that great frankly, but it's the games after December what counts, such as Infamous Second Son and the Order 1886. Also, what exactly are Naughty Dog up to?

@SirSlimyScrotum: Why don't you just say next gen starts when you say it does like all Sony Fan. Since when does launch lineups not matter????

Sony Fan at its finest.

Game delays, Overheating and Red Flatline, KZ never to be seen playing on a retail PS4. Yeah gooood times ahead for Sony.

You know what will be funny if Ryse got delayed lol.

Also I swear the TC started gaming just a few months ago also. Fakeboys always give the real fans a bad name.

@SirSlimyScrotum: the problem is success in the industry is a marathon that takes years to truly gauge, but the system wars don't see past the end of their nose... A disk swap rumor on a Tuesday afternoon is the gaming equivalent of pearl harbor to the maniacs.... January may as well be 2018

@monsterpuncher: everythings subjective tho,

i mean both play games, both watch blu rays,

both have online capabilities,

at the end of the day its preference, i don't see how any intelligent person cannot comprehend this,

the fact that u cannot understand why anyone would buy an xbox one, is indication of your fanboyism,,

lets break down the factors,

now games is personal preference, but its fact that xbox has more exclusives, and a wider range of launch titles,

as far as visuals, i'm assuming theres not going to be much different, perhaps later on, ps4 might have the advantage but who knows.

as far as kinect, well i'm willing to purchase something different, i have a pc, so i can play all the top games with great graphics so the kinect will provide a different experience,

mulitiplayer, well ms has always been better at multiplayer, with dedicated servers etc.

don't be blind by your buyers remorse, other peoples purchases don't make ur's any less,,

Both of them look like a nightmare.

I pity anyone who's going to pay $400-$500 (plus online subscription) just to play Kilolzone/Xbonetrash and a bunch of multiplats.

Going to be even sadder when one of these consoles gets hit by hardware failures..

I actually still prefer Sonys Lineup especially for Knack. The only game I'm really interessted on Mss front is Dead Rising 3, but I can live without it. Also I don't really feel like supporting MS after all the shit they have done

Nice anecdotal evidence. Let me try:

All of the stores I went to were out of X1 preorders and still were accepting PS4 preorders. I also heard that there were more X1's made than PS4s.

Difference is that you're delusional and Xbone isn't sold out or selling faster than PS4.

LOL.. so only the launch titles matter, lems don't care that for example MS doesnt support their consoles throughout the years !!!

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Well it continues. Driveclub officially delayed. Now ps4 very well might have the worst launch ever.

@TheEroica: the sheer hysteria among cows really does show theu are nervous. I guess its safe to say the answer to my opening question is ..............it has begun

Be funny if all the exclusives got delayed and next gen was left with high res multiplats.

Love how immature some people are, At least Sony aren't rushing anything, unlike Xbox Oner sending out the only racing game which hits 1080p because all the features which are demanding are taken out, Sony are doing the right thing if it ain't ready don't rush it.

Xbox one trouble has already started when there bringing out forza5 wuithout any weather or day and night.

@XBOunity: yawn omg ur posts suck

Great games sell consoles... and right now i think Sonys biggest concern should be that the Xbone and even Wii U looks like it has more to offer when it comes to that.

What a disastrous launch, would love to see MS pull some low blow viral marketing similar to Sonys game share video.

"Look how easy it is to play more than 2 launch titles on the XBOX ONE"

HAHA

@always_explicit: it really is shitty, im staying away from the RLoD console for awhile.

Shotty you are so back and forth. I don't know what console you favor anymore.

and yet Killzone Shadowfall will outsell everything on Xbone's launch lineup combined and Sony already has over 1 million preorders. Looks to me like the nightmare is just starting for M$. What wil happen when Sony's world class studios go into full swing (Santa Monica, Naughty Dog, Polyphony Digital etc.)?

Neogaf is all depressed. I guess you cant make jokes about PS4 there, only Xbox One. Bish proved this today. dat bias proven, and lol at them!!!

There is no reason to buy a PS4 or Xbox One this year....Deal with it and wait a few months, it's not worth it.

Oh you didn't know??????????? Sony is forcing retailers to buy their bundles. The Killzone bundle is driving up those preorders. Good for you man. I hope you like it.

I just cancelled my preorder.

Funny thing is I find there more of a love for Nintendo there than anywhere else I post.

You're a sad person. It's an internet site and you are obsessed with it. Let it go man, let it go.

Cancelled it implies you actually had one

You are not fooling anyone you sad little man.

don't pretend to know me, you don't. anyway on topic, could you imagine if this delay news was for Forza 5? Broken Promises is your motto, mine is always on and always delivering. ps4 nightmare has begun, and neogaf is depressed, go read the site, its funny astroturfing going on over there. Those who point fingers are usually the ones who the finger should be pointing too. Bishturfer songaf.

What were the broken promises from last gen?

UH just a guess...............The nightmare of the PS4 has begun.