Halo 5 will not have Armor Abilities (aka fuck yes!!)

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#1 Edited by ghostwarrior786 (5811 posts) -

Frank O'connor confirmed that Armor Abilities would not be making a return and that "Spartan Abilities" does not mean Armor Abilities but they are feature like being able to hijack vehicles.

"Not thrilled that armor abilities seem to be making a return."

Frank replies

"They aren't. The wording is confusing but it means. "features". Using h2 as an example, new features would have been dual wielding and boarding."

GREAT news, will have to buy x1 now. hopefully they bundle halo 5 with x1 slim aww yeahhhhhh

ps. **** u bungie

here is a vid that breaks down what was shown in the e3 beta trailer

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#2 Edited by lawlessx (48753 posts) -

and now im interested in halo 5.

that crap ruined halo reach's for me. i long for the halo 3 days were you knew everyone was on the same playing field and you didn't have to worry about "perks"

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#3 Edited by Shewgenja (19885 posts) -

Cool story bro. What's this have to do with System Wars? Can ya'll not find enough people to talk to in the XBox section these days?

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#4 Posted by ghostwarrior786 (5811 posts) -

@Shewgenja said:

Cool story bro. What's this have to do with System Wars? Can ya'll not find enough people to talk to in the XBox section these days?

this news changes everything!!! halo is going to retake its rightful place as king of console multiplayer.

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#5 Posted by chikenfriedrice (13561 posts) -

@Shewgenja said:

Cool story bro. What's this have to do with System Wars? Can ya'll not find enough people to talk to in the XBox section these days?

Lol.....it's okay to make multiple UC4 threads showing Drake's face though, right?

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#6 Posted by Indicud (745 posts) -

This is actually good fucking hated that shit

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#7 Edited by Shewgenja (19885 posts) -

@chikenfriedrice said:

@Shewgenja said:

Cool story bro. What's this have to do with System Wars? Can ya'll not find enough people to talk to in the XBox section these days?

Lol.....it's okay to make multiple UC4 threads showing Drake's face though, right?

That's not on me. Although, feel free to wake me up when an XBone game looks like it is worthy to hold UC4s balls. Do we have cloud power, yet?

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#8 Posted by chikenfriedrice (13561 posts) -

@Shewgenja said:

@chikenfriedrice said:

@Shewgenja said:

Cool story bro. What's this have to do with System Wars? Can ya'll not find enough people to talk to in the XBox section these days?

Lol.....it's okay to make multiple UC4 threads showing Drake's face though, right?

That's not on me. Although, feel free to wake me up when an XBone game looks like it is worthy to hold UC4s balls. Do we have cloud, yet?

In-engine balls not in-game balls

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#9 Posted by Shewgenja (19885 posts) -

@chikenfriedrice said:

@Shewgenja said:

@chikenfriedrice said:

@Shewgenja said:

Cool story bro. What's this have to do with System Wars? Can ya'll not find enough people to talk to in the XBox section these days?

Lol.....it's okay to make multiple UC4 threads showing Drake's face though, right?

That's not on me. Although, feel free to wake me up when an XBone game looks like it is worthy to hold UC4s balls. Do we have cloud, yet?

In-engine balls not in-game balls

Titanballs.

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#10 Posted by chikenfriedrice (13561 posts) -

@Shewgenja said:

@chikenfriedrice said:

@Shewgenja said:

@chikenfriedrice said:

@Shewgenja said:

Cool story bro. What's this have to do with System Wars? Can ya'll not find enough people to talk to in the XBox section these days?

Lol.....it's okay to make multiple UC4 threads showing Drake's face though, right?

That's not on me. Although, feel free to wake me up when an XBone game looks like it is worthy to hold UC4s balls. Do we have cloud, yet?

In-engine balls not in-game balls

Titanballs.

Well this deteriorated quickly :P

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#11 Posted by freedomfreak (50284 posts) -

They also got rid of loadouts.

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#12 Posted by silversix_ (26347 posts) -

Good news. This was the 2nd worst introduction to the halo series after dual wielding.

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#14 Posted by Shewgenja (19885 posts) -

@chikenfriedrice said:

Well this deteriorated quickly :P

True. I'm just making my contribution to the annually scheduled "We've got a game that redefines multiplayer FPS" lemming thread of imminent commercial floppage.

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#15 Edited by lawlessx (48753 posts) -

@freedomfreak said:

They also got rid of loadouts.

jesus christ they must be really going back to the beginning.

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#16 Posted by chikenfriedrice (13561 posts) -

@Shewgenja said:

@chikenfriedrice said:

Well this deteriorated quickly :P

True. I'm just making my contribution to the annually scheduled "We've got a game that redefines multiplayer FPS" lemming thread of imminent commercial floppage.

Well to be fair Halo did hold that crown for some time....it could happen again.

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#17 Posted by sirk1264 (5912 posts) -

Thank God. Hated the armor abilities. Just didn't feel like halo in halo 4 felt like halo wanting to be call of duty.

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#18 Edited by ghostwarrior786 (5811 posts) -

@freedomfreak said:

They also got rid of loadouts.

hopefully this means perks have gone as well also those prometheon weapons were garbage thye should be scrapped. im liking the sound of this so far, system seller

@silversix_ said:

Good news. This was the 2nd worst introduction to the halo series after dual wielding.

the what now? dual wielding is great, so fun. a good br player from mid range would always win in 1v1, dual wielding was only good at short distances, well at least for me

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#19 Posted by freedomfreak (50284 posts) -
@lawlessx said:

jesus christ they must be really going back to the beginning.

I bet they're just listening to fan feedback. Trying to make Halo great again.

Remember, this was a newly formed studio that had to fill in the shoes of Bungie. Halo is massive. People love it. People are critical about. It has a loyal following. It's fucking HALO, man.

Try pleasing them with your first new Halo installment. It's not easy.

I hope they will properly handle this franchise. Like, how they're keeping the original Halo 2 multiplayer. It all feels like they're trying to win back the fans they lost.

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#20 Posted by jg4xchamp (61470 posts) -

Great Halo can go back to being old, stale, and slow.

I'm excited for Halo 2 coming back as much as the next guy(love me some Halo 2, Halo 3 sucks cock), but it's a new lead on Halo. How about they go the extra mile and change things about Halo. Halo 4's issue wasn't that it changed too much, it didn't change enough. It tried to keep it Halo+make some add on changes, and all that shit comes in conflict with each other. So you piss off the purists and the people who want some change. Regardless seems like they went the "we'll just make more fucking Halo" direction. Which, whatever.

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#21 Edited by PrincessGomez92 (5262 posts) -

Terrible news. Just terrible. Halo 4 was the best one.

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#22 Posted by jg4xchamp (61470 posts) -

@lawlessx said:

i long for the halo 3 days were you knew everyone was on the same playing field

Halo 4 this might be different, but Halo Reach it was still the case. You had access to all the same abilities/loadouts.

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#23 Posted by mems_1224 (56917 posts) -

What they need is way more weapons, no fighting covenant and new enemies. Also, how about you stop designing every map around the DMR/BR? Bump up the player count to 32, bigger maps and more big team objective based modes. They need to do something different. I dont want just more Halo, thats what the MC Collection is for.

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#24 Posted by cantloginnow (381 posts) -

I like that music in the video.Is Marty still looking for a job?Halo needs Marty back.

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#25 Posted by UnbiasedPoster (1134 posts) -

Preordered.

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#26 Edited by ghostwarrior786 (5811 posts) -

@jg4xchamp said:

Great Halo can go back to being old, stale, and slow.

I'm excited for Halo 2 coming back as much as the next guy(love me some Halo 2, Halo 3 sucks cock), but it's a new lead on Halo. How about they go the extra mile and change things about Halo. Halo 4's issue wasn't that it changed too much, it didn't change enough. It tried to keep it Halo+make some add on changes, and all that shit comes in conflict with each other. So you piss off the purists and the people who want some change. Regardless seems like they went the "we'll just make more fucking Halo" direction. Which, whatever.

they are adding new stuff watch the vid i linked. halo 4 problem was balance, crap maps, lame new weapons (prometheoans) and the addition of bs like perks. also cant stress enough how bad the maps were, so bad in fact all i would play is big team slayer. catering to the cod players got them no where just look at this graph, the population declined quicker than any halo every has and this is only the first year . im guessing they didnt make no where near as much off the dlc packs hence the change back to basics.

@princessgomez92 said:

Terrible news. Just terrible. Halo 4 was the best one.

lol cod player. halo reach and 4 sucked ass

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#27 Posted by ghostwarrior786 (5811 posts) -

@jg4xchamp said:

@lawlessx said:

i long for the halo 3 days were you knew everyone was on the same playing field

Halo 4 this might be different, but Halo Reach it was still the case. You had access to all the same abilities/loadouts.

halo reach was also shit, it marked the start of decline for the series. halo 3 was the last great halo game. if u are a fan of all these loadouts i suggest u give destiny a try when it releases because that is halo 4 on steds

@mems_1224 said:

What they need is way more weapons, no fighting covenant and new enemies. Also, how about you stop designing every map around the DMR/BR? Bump up the player count to 32, bigger maps and more big team objective based modes. They need to do something different. I dont want just more Halo, thats what the MC Collection is for.

halo 4 campaign was horrible because the new enemies were crap and the covenant are still there, they do need new enemies but i dont trust 343 to deliver on that front a lot of the talent left with bungie. 32 players isnt what halo is about at max 12 player in big team slayer but yes they do need more objective modes. they are adding new things check out that vid

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#28 Edited by jg4xchamp (61470 posts) -

@ghostwarrior786 said:

@jg4xchamp said:

Great Halo can go back to being old, stale, and slow.

I'm excited for Halo 2 coming back as much as the next guy(love me some Halo 2, Halo 3 sucks cock), but it's a new lead on Halo. How about they go the extra mile and change things about Halo. Halo 4's issue wasn't that it changed too much, it didn't change enough. It tried to keep it Halo+make some add on changes, and all that shit comes in conflict with each other. So you piss off the purists and the people who want some change. Regardless seems like they went the "we'll just make more fucking Halo" direction. Which, whatever.

they are adding new stuff watch the vid i linked. halo 4 problem was balance, crap maps, lame new weapons (prometheoans) and the addition of bs like perks. also cant stress enough how bad the maps were, so bad in fact all i would play is big team slayer. catering to the cod players got them no where just look at this graph, the population declined quicker than any halo every has and this is only the first year . im guessing they didnt make no where near as much off the dlc packs hence the change back to basics.

lol cod player. halo reach and 4 sucked ass

Your preaching to the choir man, but balance in Halo has always been all over the place.

Let's be real even the glory days Halo 2's BR was well it was the BR, **** everything else lol. Especially because of BXR and stuff. The crap maps also aren't exclusive to just Halo 4, Halo 3 had shitty ass maps left, right, and center. Let's not act like Isolation wasn't a doo doo fest, or that Construct wasn't outright garbage, or that Narrows isn't one giant "This is Bungie's shitty spawn system with a spot light on it". And no fucking way on God's green earth can someone who honestly played Halo 2 at its height in popularity tell me for five seconds that Blackout wasn't a complete butt rape of everything that made Lockout fun in the first place. and Reach had dumb shit like Paradiso. I would argue the new weapons were a mixed bag, and less out right bad. The new shotgun was kind of nifty, Binary Rifle was op as ****, but you also got it rarely, the light rifle was lame as ****. Perks+Halo are lame. Perks in their own space in a game built around them would be fine.

Again, for people who just wanted them to make "another fucking Halo" good for them. It'll probably get them their MLG spot back(because hooray I guess). But the stuff I loved about Halo 2 was all the bullshit that came along with easily the best map roster in that series by the countriest of country miles. BXB, BXR, sky jumps, cancels. Fucking go the extra mile and make Halo crazy and fun again, custom games with those things was the shit. Halo Reach's custom games specifically were a ton of fun. Halo 3's less so, and Halo 4 that shit was straight neutered.

So yeah for anyone who wanted more? good for you guys I guess. But I don't want another Halo, as much as I'd like an actual progressive game from this series.

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#29 Edited by thegamer00 (153 posts) -

Hell yes.

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#30 Posted by k2theswiss (16599 posts) -

GREAT TO HEAR! I want equipment back like bubble shields ect

They better not make stupid ability that allows you hijack stuff and not let others do it... I would be ever more mad. Hopefully that was a completely example due to the fact they can't say nothing about halo 5

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#31 Posted by Renegade_Fury (19887 posts) -

What about those stupid item balls? I don't remember if they were in reach and 4, but I hated them in 3.

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#32 Posted by jg4xchamp (61470 posts) -

@Renegade_Fury said:

What about those stupid item balls? I don't remember if they were in reach and 4, but I hated them in 3.

Item balls? equipment? like regenerators/tripmines ?

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#33 Edited by Renegade_Fury (19887 posts) -

@jg4xchamp said:

@Renegade_Fury said:

What about those stupid item balls? I don't remember if they were in reach and 4, but I hated them in 3.

Item balls? equipment? like regenerators/tripmines ?

Those things that generate giant shields or those that could eat yours if thrown nearby.

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#34 Posted by Avian005 (4112 posts) -

I only hope they try to add new features that mixes well with the Arena gameplay while making sure they can balance eveything out to the best of their abilities. Overall, I am glad with the way 343 is moving forward.

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#35 Edited by aGuerillaUnit (79 posts) -

frank o connor is a fucking retard. Notice how he refers back to halo 2. what a fucking clown piece of shit. He has to a have an incredibly small IQ to ruin halo in the first place. How many games did he make until he got it right again? halo reach? halo 4? what a fucking MORON. He wasted bout 6 years of halo.

rememeber when they announced an update to bring back the 1 - 50 rank system in halo 4? yeah that was only AFTER call of duty started getting heavy into E-SPORTS. Frank o connor is an untalented piece of shit.

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#36 Posted by jg4xchamp (61470 posts) -

@Renegade_Fury said:

@jg4xchamp said:

@Renegade_Fury said:

What about those stupid item balls? I don't remember if they were in reach and 4, but I hated them in 3.

Item balls? equipment? like regenerators/tripmines ?

Those things that generate giant shields or those that could eat yours if thrown nearby.

So yeah equipment.

Bubble shields and...**** that electric shit(forgot the name). Yeah **** equipment. Armor Lock maybe super lame, but still would suffer that bullshit over equipment.

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#37 Posted by ghostwarrior786 (5811 posts) -

@jg4xchamp said:

Your preaching to the choir man, but balance in Halo has always been all over the place.

Let's be real even the glory days Halo 2's BR was well it was the BR, **** everything else lol. Especially because of BXR and stuff. The crap maps also aren't exclusive to just Halo 4, Halo 3 had shitty ass maps left, right, and center. Let's not act like Isolation wasn't a doo doo fest, or that Construct wasn't outright garbage, or that Narrows isn't one giant "This is Bungie's shitty spawn system with a spot light on it". And no fucking way on God's green earth can someone who honestly played Halo 2 at its height in popularity tell me for five seconds that Blackout wasn't a complete butt rape of everything that made Lockout fun in the first place. and Reach had dumb shit like Paradiso. I would argue the new weapons were a mixed bag, and less out right bad. The new shotgun was kind of nifty, Binary Rifle was op as ****, but you also got it rarely, the light rifle was lame as ****. Perks+Halo are lame. Perks in their own space in a game built around them would be fine.

Again, for people who just wanted them to make "another fucking Halo" good for them. It'll probably get them their MLG spot back(because hooray I guess). But the stuff I loved about Halo 2 was all the bullshit that came along with easily the best map roster in that series by the countriest of country miles. BXB, BXR, sky jumps, cancels. Fucking go the extra mile and make Halo crazy and fun again, custom games with those things was the shit. Halo Reach's custom games specifically were a ton of fun. Halo 3's less so, and Halo 4 that shit was straight neutered.

So yeah for anyone who wanted more? good for you guys I guess. But I don't want another Halo, as much as I'd like an actual progressive game from this series.

yh br was pretty much the only gun i used ever but i enjoyed it so much i didnt care at all. construct was on of my fav maps i loved it, narrows not so much. reach and 4 have the worst maps ever because there are literally only 1-2 good maps in the entire game. the problem with promethean guns is they are not satisfying to shoot and dont do anything different, the defination of filler weapons imo.

i think the series is going to progress but they are going the more traditional arena shooter route which i welcome because we dont have any good arena shooters right now but have plenty of games like cod, hell even destiny could fill ur itch for a sequel to halo 4 multiplayer check out the alpha gameplay footage

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#38 Posted by aGuerillaUnit (79 posts) -

the bubble shield and power drainer took skill to use morons! in team objective you would plant the bubbleshield inside the entrance of the base so you could survive grenade attacks and rockets, it was fucking genius.

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#39 Edited by jg4xchamp (61470 posts) -

Yeah, but **** Bungie ;p

I agree I'd like a comeback for arena shooters. But in Halo's case? it was always a slower arena shooter. If anything it's time that series gets sped the **** up. Give this asshole masterchief boosters or some shit.

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#40 Posted by StrifeDelivery (1901 posts) -

@chikenfriedrice said:

@Shewgenja said:

@chikenfriedrice said:

@Shewgenja said:

Cool story bro. What's this have to do with System Wars? Can ya'll not find enough people to talk to in the XBox section these days?

Lol.....it's okay to make multiple UC4 threads showing Drake's face though, right?

That's not on me. Although, feel free to wake me up when an XBone game looks like it is worthy to hold UC4s balls. Do we have cloud, yet?

In-engine balls not in-game balls

Spongebob and Patrick Laughing Spongebob Squarepants and Patrick Star Laughing

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#41 Posted by ghostwarrior786 (5811 posts) -

@jg4xchamp said:

Yeah, but **** Bungie ;p

I agree I'd like a comeback for arena shooters. But in Halo's case? it was always a slower arena shooter. If anything it's time that series gets sped the **** up. Give this asshole masterchief boosters or some shit.

yh this it could with, instead of perks and all that crap just increase the base movement speed + unlimited sprint (cant remember if halo 4 has this been long time since i played it)

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#42 Edited by vashkey (33782 posts) -

Good. Now get rid of ordnance drops, perks and custom load outs.

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#43 Edited by Basinboy (13441 posts) -

I had no issue with armor abilities in Halo: Reach - but ordinances in Halo 4 were a travesty.

Regardless, I've plenty of time and games to keep me busy to even bother worrying over it at the moment. At E3 2015, I'll start revving the hype machine (343i has some work to do to win me back).

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#44 Posted by clone01 (27141 posts) -

@aGuerillaUnit said:

frank o connor is a fucking retard. Notice how he refers back to halo 2. what a fucking clown piece of shit. He has to a have an incredibly small IQ to ruin halo in the first place. How many games did he make until he got it right again? halo reach? halo 4? what a fucking MORON. He wasted bout 6 years of halo.

rememeber when they announced an update to bring back the 1 - 50 rank system in halo 4? yeah that was only AFTER call of duty started getting heavy into E-SPORTS. Frank o connor is an untalented piece of shit.

I truly hope you're trolling. I'd be very melancholy to know someone like yourself exists in real life.

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#45 Posted by aGuerillaUnit (79 posts) -

@clone01 said:

@aGuerillaUnit said:

frank o connor is a fucking retard. Notice how he refers back to halo 2. what a fucking clown piece of shit. He has to a have an incredibly small IQ to ruin halo in the first place. How many games did he make until he got it right again? halo reach? halo 4? what a fucking MORON. He wasted bout 6 years of halo.

rememeber when they announced an update to bring back the 1 - 50 rank system in halo 4? yeah that was only AFTER call of duty started getting heavy into E-SPORTS. Frank o connor is an untalented piece of shit.

I truly hope you're trolling. I'd be very melancholy to know someone like yourself exists in real life.

how? im 100% right, he fucked up halo and it took 2 games for him to admit he was wrong and go back to original roots.

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#46 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

@aGuerillaUnit said:

@clone01 said:

@aGuerillaUnit said:

frank o connor is a fucking retard. Notice how he refers back to halo 2. what a fucking clown piece of shit. He has to a have an incredibly small IQ to ruin halo in the first place. How many games did he make until he got it right again? halo reach? halo 4? what a fucking MORON. He wasted bout 6 years of halo.

rememeber when they announced an update to bring back the 1 - 50 rank system in halo 4? yeah that was only AFTER call of duty started getting heavy into E-SPORTS. Frank o connor is an untalented piece of shit.

I truly hope you're trolling. I'd be very melancholy to know someone like yourself exists in real life.

how? im 100% right, he fucked up halo and it took 2 games for him to admit he was wrong and go back to original roots.

dude, it's just a game. Calm down

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#47 Posted by HavocV3 (8064 posts) -

@jg4xchamp said:

@Renegade_Fury said:

@jg4xchamp said:

@Renegade_Fury said:

What about those stupid item balls? I don't remember if they were in reach and 4, but I hated them in 3.

Item balls? equipment? like regenerators/tripmines ?

Those things that generate giant shields or those that could eat yours if thrown nearby.

So yeah equipment.

Bubble shields and...**** that electric shit(forgot the name). Yeah **** equipment. Armor Lock maybe super lame, but still would suffer that bullshit over equipment.

Armor lock over equipment.

Lol, you're dumb.

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#48 Posted by clone01 (27141 posts) -

@aGuerillaUnit said:

@clone01 said:

@aGuerillaUnit said:

frank o connor is a fucking retard. Notice how he refers back to halo 2. what a fucking clown piece of shit. He has to a have an incredibly small IQ to ruin halo in the first place. How many games did he make until he got it right again? halo reach? halo 4? what a fucking MORON. He wasted bout 6 years of halo.

rememeber when they announced an update to bring back the 1 - 50 rank system in halo 4? yeah that was only AFTER call of duty started getting heavy into E-SPORTS. Frank o connor is an untalented piece of shit.

I truly hope you're trolling. I'd be very melancholy to know someone like yourself exists in real life.

how? im 100% right, he fucked up halo and it took 2 games for him to admit he was wrong and go back to original roots.

Wow. Just, wow.

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#49 Edited by handssss (1907 posts) -

Being able to hijack vehicles is now a specific skill? that's bullshit.

also, they better not let people spawn with plasma pistols or grenades in this. Or get power weapons delivered to them from the sky.

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#50 Posted by ShoTTyMcNaDeS (2784 posts) -

Thank God!!!! Halo Reach and Halo 4 MP were Hooooooorrrrible because of the armor abilities and perk system! I sure hope that Halo 5 goes back to the original Halo formula for multiplayer. The armor abilities were cheap and stupid. I remember when all people complained about in Halo MP was the constant jumping people did. Reach ruined Halo MP for me with the cloaking, jet packs and other BS!!!